(asciilifeform) billymg: reich must be getting desperate enough for coin that they're allowing the operation of non-kyc avenues
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( given as atm 'buying with btc' from a reich.corp currently req's ~2x the nominal mass of coin )
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-14 20:03:58 asciilifeform: from asciilifeform's pov shitcoins are simply ponzis (operated with the connivance of reich, which fails to prosecute'em)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: also imho unsurprising that sv printola pipeline terminals are directly pushing shitcoins -- the latter are a premier 'divert usd from pushing up btc-usd exch rate' reich.device. ( rather than merely general-purpose ponzis )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform admits surprise that reich has not grown a new, fresh shitoshi just yet. that one's rather long in the tooth
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: simply suffices to 'stop thinking like reich' and let go of the centralism.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-18#1074247 << in other words, what one wants from an anti-reich pov is to maintain 'lemon market' in 'alices', in econ terminology.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-10 15:45:14 asciilifeform: tldr -- if you anticipate having something to say to folx from reich dungeon, agree on magick words in advance.
(asciilifeform) deedbot: signpost updated rating of BingoBoingo from 1 to 4 << honorable member of the former republic. escaped the reich before most.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: imho ~whole point of bothering with the extremely gnarly rube goldberg apparatus is to piss on the reich in various ways.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: in fact the whole pretense that there are reich.permitted activities worth doing with bitcoin is lulzy.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: billymg: justabout errything worth doing with btc is 100% reich-illegal.
(asciilifeform) billymg: i enjoyed the reading the discussion last night. imo the elephant in the room with 'wot-powered layer 2' is that, according to reich law at least, it is totally illegal. iirc this is the reason signpost shut down the deedbot wallet
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-14#1073129 << well it aint hyperinflating. ru runs on moar old-fashioned 'eastern despotism' rather than west reich's printola firehose.
(asciilifeform) signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-14#1072969 << recall old threads re: the reich merely allowing a few nerds into the upper caste via bitcoin to circulate fresh blood.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: tabletop meth+xyz printer for all reich inmates, a la 'distributed defense' (how ? if knew, would say)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: (vs 'human-lite' bioengineering waste product of the reich)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: in fact , it's the only thing that scales; reich.visa dun scale (it is funded by continued theft on historically unprecedented scale, is the only reason it superficially appears solvent)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: from asciilifeform's pov shitcoins are simply ponzis (operated with the connivance of reich, which fails to prosecute'em)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: like all other reich activity
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: (and inexpensively for reich)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: sucks to a degree for erryone, in that there is not a deterministic algo for fleeing inflatola and consequently reich continues to steam along by stealing from ~erryone
(asciilifeform) mats: reich is still flying on tailwinds of back-to-back world war winning
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( and, separately, how does mats picture 'ceiling on printing', when reich is ~100% powered by same, for past 100+y ? )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: in principle asciilifeform agrees. gotta ask the q of why folx still invest in reichpaper tho rather than btc. and the volatility is inescapably part of the answer.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-14#1072950 << this'd be the case if the paper products were not products of reich financial engineering, where scamola deliberately unprosecuted (in fact encouraged), and freshly printed fiatola is delivered by the traincar to the compliant perps
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: unrelatedly, received a tip that old lulcow mike hearn has reemerged as a 'covid skeptic' (dollars to doughnuts, in role as reich provocateur/tame oppositioner)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: the parsimonious hypothesis is that reich for the most part simply ignores poor folx.
(asciilifeform) billymg: how is it an imaginary problem? you mentioned it as a requirement for acquiring coin (not linked to reich db)
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-13 14:08:00 asciilifeform: billymg: not immediately from a gox, i.e. didn't have to give some reich idjit yer postage addr, tax #, etc. to buy it
(asciilifeform) billymg: to break an addresses link to reich's db
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-11 08:30:30 asciilifeform: cgra: nobody's in fact abolishing cash, it's an 'unprincipled exception' quite necessary for the reich to function, and attempts to phase it out give similar result to hruschev's idiocy
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: billymg: not immediately from a gox, i.e. didn't have to give some reich idjit yer postage addr, tax #, etc. to buy it
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: reich finds this kinda noise interesting and occasionally pays a pittance for it
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-11 13:01:22 asciilifeform: gregory5: the evidence in favour of this narrative (incidentally the traditional su version) is imho overwhelming (consider munich, at which time the ~french police force~ could've easily sufficed to defeat germany..) but traditionally 'unhappened' in the west reich
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregory5: the evidence in favour of this narrative (incidentally the traditional su version) is imho overwhelming (consider munich, at which time the ~french police force~ could've easily sufficed to defeat germany..) but traditionally 'unhappened' in the west reich
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: incidentally worth noting that reich doesn't tax 'so that it has money', almost errything it spends comes directly from 'printer'. it taxes to keep a lid on demand pressure from plebes
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: cgra: nobody's in fact abolishing cash, it's an 'unprincipled exception' quite necessary for the reich to function, and attempts to phase it out give similar result to hruschev's idiocy
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: cgra: humorous reference to ancient meme. but at same time reich ~wishes~ it had such a thing, no doubt
(asciilifeform) bonechewer: Folks are getting wise to the net present value of reichsbux vs. functional capital items. I bought a 2009 SUV two years ago for $8k, now see folx online asking ~$12k for same model with comparable mileage
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: tldr -- if you anticipate having something to say to folx from reich dungeon, agree on magick words in advance.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform would not regard messages purporting to originate from a reich captive as authentic for any serious purpose; w/ exception of an unlikely escape & getting to his keyz
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( dunno if even makes a diff, reich has a 'profits of crimes' reich.law where crown keeps 100% iirc )
(asciilifeform) billymg: just saying, it's reich tax on 100% of purchase vs. bananastan tax on only imports
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: and similarly BingoBoingo in uy, iirc was only able to get a reich-enabled 'lite' acct after giving us passport
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: (wherever yer living, if yer fiatola accts or cashflows are in reich, yer living in the reich, elementarily)
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-02-21 17:42:13 asciilifeform: there aint a suitable magick string. cuz it in fact is not how reich law worx.
(pest) asciilifeform[billymg]: doesn't seem readily distinguishable from past N yrs of reichpress ethertardium agitprop
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: d4: serpent was the original winner of the old 'aes' contest, was vetoed by reich supposedly because 'too expensive in hardware'.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-30#1070306 << it aint as if there's any shortage of reading material re what it's like to be warehoused in a reich-sponsored flat, for instance.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: billymg: keep in mind that 1 of the aims of reich's btc damping is to buy it up 'cheaply'. (certainly not for 'giveaway' of cheapcoinz to plebes)
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-29 13:18:55 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-29#1070003 << reich pumped it, which makes it trivial for'em to then dump it
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: in the current reich, otoh, constantly running into such folx
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: the quickest way to see what reich stats are worth is to look at own wallet. asciilifeform's expenses in past 2y up considerably farther from the Official 6% or what was it.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: it aint a seekrit that the Official reich.inflation quite overtly excludes almost errybody's major expenses (housing, medical, collegism, etc)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: is mats's null hypothesis really that 'reich stats are troo' ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: what next, 'explain why you think' reich.inflation stat is fiction ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: they're reich.fictions.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-29 10:37:34 billymg: also impressed at the reich's efficiency in suppressing the exchange rate (i believe signpost shared this or a similar chart before but can't find the log line)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: (and yer 'most' people are the kind who like to read reich censored rag)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: (ditto re: the *readers*. wtf, reading reich rag and 'surprised' that censored?)
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-29 10:37:34 billymg: also impressed at the reich's efficiency in suppressing the exchange rate (i believe signpost shared this or a similar chart before but can't find the log line)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-29#1070003 << reich pumped it, which makes it trivial for'em to then dump it
(asciilifeform) billymg: also impressed at the reich's efficiency in suppressing the exchange rate (i believe signpost shared this or a similar chart before but can't find the log line)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: signpost: personally asciilifeform suspects that rpi was baked under the 'undermine linux' reich.project
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: punkman: thinking about it further -- plastic rifle is more or less ideal for reich issue to 'barbarians', in light of its limited life
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: it's a subvariety of the 'no, plebe may not own a picasso' reich custom.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: upstack, and at the risk of repeating self -- if whatever yer doing can be sunk by dns shenanigans, yer a tard, and deserve whatever pain reich (inexpensively!) may inflict on you via that entirely voluntary and avoidable string you attached to yourself.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: pest is not built to 'make rich' anyone, or 'famous', or for any such social butterfly scamcircuit garbage. built simply to ride a proper internet parasitically and unstoppably over the reich-coopted one.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-09-16 13:29:18 asciilifeform: under no circumstances however will asciilifeform participate in the reich's replacement-fleanodes or any such thing.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: cdd: i'ma assume yer labouring under a misconception, rather than delib. disingenuous. what does a voluntarily-genned pgp key 'by consenting adult' (which ftr need not contain any info re yer meatspace identity, simply rsa pub and a nick you like to be called by) have to do with masterkeyed ssl lulcerts issued by the reich ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: (very notably, the folx with the -- by far -- highest standard of living in that reich, were the baltic 'sprats' , and they were the most virulent 'haters' , even today )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: re socialisms -- unlike the reich, old sovok had 1) reasonably stable currency 2) industrial capacity, lol
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: i suppose at some point some hamhanded idjicy by reich (e.g. 'haircutting' deposits held in goxes en masse) could cure (some subset of) goxmorons, in principle.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: i.e. already there's exactly 1 coin with deterministic supply, and w/out a central reich controller forcing 'upgrades' periodically
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-27#1062122 << warehousing plebes is a biz cost for the reich. so from that pov cheaper to pack'em like battery chickens. we had this in old sovok, 'уплотнение' ('densification') campaign of '20s
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-10-27 16:29:14 asciilifeform: suspects that lulzstories like this are simply to distract morons from the plain-as-daylight existing daily reich.confiscations
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform suspects that lulzstories like this are simply to distract morons from the plain-as-daylight existing daily reich.confiscations
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: reich is happy to sell to moron paper scribbled with any string the moron'd prefer, incl. 'btc'
(asciilifeform) bonechewer: yeah, the writer credits the reich with a bit too much competence, but "they're not hell-bent on trying to wipe it out" would be somewhat more accurate there
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: bonechewer: btcism per se aint going anywhere, but the current reich effort is to get it outta the hands of plebes and into reich-controlled orgs. largely via paperization a la gold.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: vex: asciilifeform aint a jp expert, but iirc their mob is well-integrated into the Official reich structure, and prolly compliant
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-01#1060329 << i dun recall where you live, gregory5 , but will note that what i suspect you think of as 'responsibility' in the reich is punished heavily.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: it also explains why reich had to organize the (2nd!) destruction of japan, for instance.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: the religious folx are imho some of the last with the will to resist (even if seldom effectively) the reich.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: picture if reich were lending to plebes (for mortgages, rather than generic dough obv.) at 0%. would result in even more outrageous price cancer than currently seen.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: or 'mitigate the risks' ? when tbtf and errything reich-backstopped ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: overall the orc reich was over9000x less doctrinaire and rigid in practice than the american one.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: billymg: the monopolism of course is in play -- via supply constriction ('building codes'; and the fact that the reich rich can afford to buy infinitely many houses with printed money and keep'em empty, simply to keep plebes mortgaged in the remaining ones)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: billymg: naturally can't speak for billymg et al, but what i've seen was folx feeling as if they actually finally could resist, and with feeling they 'won against reich' by sneaking into mask zone ungagged etc
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-09-22 15:04:38 asciilifeform: at the very least stop borrowing money. it aint an arrestable offense yet, even in the heart of the reich.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-09-22 10:40:29 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-22#1059091 << the 2-3 times asciilifeform tried to read 'bap', bored to death and garbagecollected. but given how vigorously he's pushed, can only assume is a tame zhirinovskian dissent-pet of the reich
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: textbook reich sleight of hand misdirection -- 'ohnoez, vaccine side effects' but somehow not ohnoez that 1) 1e11+$ directly into coffers of pfizer et al 2) that was printed freshly for the purpose, as well as for similar 'bailouts' 3) then immediately dropped into realestate pump for planned mass impoverishment
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: at the very least stop borrowing money. it aint an arrestable offense yet, even in the heart of the reich.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: punkman: stated purpose naturally a laff. the underlying purpose however is not simply to feed lockheed, but to prevent formation of genuine resistance to reich
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-22#1059091 << the 2-3 times asciilifeform tried to read 'bap', bored to death and garbagecollected. but given how vigorously he's pushed, can only assume is a tame zhirinovskian dissent-pet of the reich
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: genuine milk: 100% banned in reich. like cocaine.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: re tax writeoffs, they're specifically the mechanism of elite boot stamping on human face in usg reich, so they'll be abolished some time after hell freezes over
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: under no circumstances however will asciilifeform participate in the reich's replacement-fleanodes or any such thing.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: when the sham asciilifeform speaks, people will see ' asciilifeform(cgra) : surrender to reich with me! ' or similar.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: example usage in reich: '... The device itself is an UNCLASSIFIED controlled cryptographic item (CCI) as long as it is unkeyed. When keyed, it assumes the classification level of the key in use. ' etc
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: asciilifeform's earlier point probably worth expanding on. observe how e.g. bitcoin (the actual kind, where you actually hold yer privkeys) has ~to this day~ barely any measurable 'mass uptake'. despite arbitrarily raging totalitarian reich
(asciilifeform) billymg: asciilifeform: easier now because conditions in reich even worse?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: even e.g. bitcoin is largely a set of future possibilities than present-day macroscopic dent in the reich.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: signpost: the only angle from which 'weaken reich' here is simply to lay foundation for decentralized net on top of existing physical reichnet.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform must point out, for readers, that excluding traitors/reich agents/provocateurs from one's wot is a human problem, and rather outside the scope of pest or other algorithmic discussions
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: signpost: afaik gutworms not much of a thing in the reich today
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: billymg: it's funny how already 'errything takes btc', while in reality nuffin in reich
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mp worked like this -- bags of cash. suitcases. like mavrodi. ( and when he wanted to so much as top off a hosting acct, had to 'get by with a little help from his friends', get someone to use a reichbank . sometimes asciilifeform even. )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: fact remains, asciilifeform is able to use classical bitcoin. despite 1e10$ worth of reich efforts.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i don't disagree re 'not recognized'; simply don't think that this reich.recognition ~does anything~
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: little shithole orcistans, as i understand, live and breathe import taxation like reich breathes income taxation
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: billymg: followed the 'expected' 'apocalyptic' trajectory for coupla yrs, then reich got the paperization going
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: on top of this, homo redditicus is an inherently damaged creature, and damaged in a way that can serve only the reich.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-08-26 13:54:18 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-26#1053928 << prolly not, at least not as 'replay of 2008', Official reich party line is now simply to 'money printer -- brrr!' to cover any and all shortfalls there & elsewhere, i.e. general-purpose weimarism
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-26#1053928 << prolly not, at least not as 'replay of 2008', Official reich party line is now simply to 'money printer -- brrr!' to cover any and all shortfalls there & elsewhere, i.e. general-purpose weimarism
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: punkman: afaik in all reich satrapies tax liability is 'guilty until proven innocent'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: imho reads like entirely typical reich tentacle.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-08-23 14:33:24 asciilifeform: won't be surprised if eventually reich mandates and attempts to enforce key escrow for 'organizational' (i.e. reich-registered orcs) held coinz
(asciilifeform) billymg: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-23#1053423 << this property of bitcoin seems like cause for optimism (if you can survive long enough). it would also undermine these kinds of schemes by the reich
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform won't be surprised if eventually reich mandates and attempts to enforce key escrow for 'organizational' (i.e. reich-registered orcs) held coinz
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: billymg: and indeed must agree that a reich is similar to other natural disasters, in that 'it's over when it exhausts itself' and not earlier.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: billymg: reichs recur historically with regularity, and the moar centralizing the tech stack at the time, the bigger the reich -- and its eventual crater. imho entirely defensible statement of fact.
(asciilifeform) billymg: asciilifeform: that's what i mean, is reich on par with earthquakes in its totality?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: reich also aids in the proliferation of shitcoins (not the least of this aid is the non-prosecution of the perps, who, if they had carried out equiv. fraud using traditional paper, would sit with madoff) -- so as to siphon juice away from btc.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: in http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-11#1052140 lulz, a reich.lolgem.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-04-22 14:11:18 asciilifeform: mats: there is only 1 kind of class warfare in the reich -- yacht class vs literally erryone else. with the enthusiastic assistance of 'room temp iq' lumpens, typically, for the wet work.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-08-11 12:37:57 billymg: oh yeah, speaking of victims of the reich Vox seems to have followed closely behind BAP in being deplatformed
(asciilifeform) billymg: oh yeah, speaking of victims of the reich Vox seems to have followed closely behind BAP in being deplatformed
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: aaaand nobody cancelled ye olde waterfall. periodically reich seizes coupla thou btc and dumps on market as-needed.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( all goxes are guilty until proven innocent (lol, how) of being transparent to reich from birth )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: so, given that ~0 meaningfully exportable manufacture there, and that ru aint part of the lizard chrematist 'financial' reich, big fat unsurprise that 'not much commerce but in minerals.'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: but returning to ru spammers etc -- why do you assume that they necessarily pay into the treasury in moscow, a la 17th c privateer? can maybe think of another reason why ru would not participate in reich's extradition circus ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mostly (tho not entirely) fictions created by reich 'seekoority experts' to justify 1) net totalitarianisms 2) gigabux into 'security biz'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: it strikes me as possible that cn is trying to copy usg reich's 'charity' scheme
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: lulzy piece from www mats linked where derp proposes , without mincing words, ethertardization of bitcoin and Official miner reich, with rollbacks etc
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: reich 'charity orgs' are a combo of chump moneys collector and laundry for elite.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: in all reichs, the only real crime is to impinge on the prerogatives of the great inca.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: re: the embezzler -- important to realize that if he was the 'correct' type, then in reich he dun really count as a thief. (and fat chance that he would have been put in charge of such a fund if were ~not~ the Right Type)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: going with this, i fully expect that 'sudden' structural collapses of public buildings will be slowly 'normalized' in the reich.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: and in fact foundational event in the creation of the current reich.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-08-08 23:11:06 asciilifeform: not erryone is ready to mentally check outta the reich and into the reality where 100% of the academics have to be shot before anything worth calling 'science' is again possible.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: not erryone is ready to mentally check outta the reich and into the reality where 100% of the academics have to be shot before anything worth calling 'science' is again possible.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: i.e. have not set the bozo bit in their heads re the reich.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: reads almost as if judge were a reluctant servant of the reich, and wanted to highlight the sheer insanity (essentially, secretary of state has letre de cache power over anyone on us soil -- simply needs to connive with some banana republic with whom extraditory treaty exists, to accuse the victim of sumthing or other
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: i dun see 'trump plot' other than as umpteenth 'reichstag fire'.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-18 20:39:56 asciilifeform: ( why 'powerrangers' not succeeded in actually breaking the protocol ? it surely was not from lack of wanting to. or from lack of pile of usd with which to try. or lack of support from reich. why so far failed ? )
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2020-03-25 17:23:22 asciilifeform: ftr i do not believe for a moment in 'mp is outta biz'. he's very much in biz, working double time to poison all of the remaining wells, set folx against one another, make sure the earth properly salted so that republic (the only kind possible -- the kind w/out mp, the kind 'with' is called a reich) is properly down, and his theses 'properly confirmed'
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-18 14:17:46 asciilifeform: thimbronion, PeterL : the other thing was his megalomania -- very much did not like 'little network for self & associates' but only schemes where 'put whole planet under the yoke one day! thousandyearreich!!!' etc
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-07 15:11:48 asciilifeform: don't tell me that you think 'bitcoin finance' actually exists. it does not exist. may have briefly, somewhere, existed, and may exist in the future, but afaik currently there's only two known kinds -- mpex-style, where anarchic but 'we'll take yer money, haha, moron, for trusting' and 'kyc' -- i.e. reich's attempts to
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-08 12:19:30 asciilifeform: (why ? because he was gunning for a reich, not decentralized-anything)
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-01 13:38:53 asciilifeform: cgra: apparently irc has this subtle braindamage baked in at algo level. and is, evidently, why all the great irc nets eventually not only schismed, but acrimoniously schismed and turned into palace-reichs and eventually burn down
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ... where stiffer enforcement of reich norms and 'the right people' in charge.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: thimbronion: lol,aha, sorta like spain, latvia, etc. are Officially 'countries' rather than reich satrapies, no matter that extradite to washington at drop of a hat, etc. similarly
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( why 'powerrangers' not succeeded in actually breaking the protocol ? it surely was not from lack of wanting to. or from lack of pile of usd with which to try. or lack of support from reich. why so far failed ? )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: (i.e. is actually well-integrated, as happens, with the reich, oddly enuff )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: what would be different, from asciilifeform's position, in a new-reich where yuan replaces usd ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: from asciilifeform's vantage point, all of these fucks are bricks in 100% solid wall of reich. all the serious questions among'em looong ago settled.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-12#1045728 << is there some issue on which he aint 100% in line w/ erry other reich organ ? ( if so -- i missed ? )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: can call me a barbarian, but from my pov the mega-failure aint even usually in the programs-on-computer part, but the interface-with-meat, e.g. where you need cooperation (or at least toleration) from fiatola-reich
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform admits, far moar interested in escaping 'arbeit macht frei' than reich per se.
(asciilifeform) signpost doesn't expect to escape the reich; haven't found an agreeable alternative
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform never boughts lands, always seemed like very risky move -- not only there is no limit to what the reich decides to tax from it, but in usa 'over 9000' ways to dislodge you from it or otherwise make unusable ('wetlands!!!') w/out compensation
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: punkman: 'money laundering' , like 'insider trading', 'corruption', is a reich.crime -- i.e. when wrong people do it, 'crime', when 'proper' lizards -- 'biz as usual'
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 10:54:47 asciilifeform: managerial types luvv these to death, they reliably produce 'steady labour' flavour that satisfies performance metrics, whether bureaucratic (reich orgs incl. usg) or sadomasochistic (mp's)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: and set in motion the events which killed his reich.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-18 14:17:46 asciilifeform: thimbronion, PeterL : the other thing was his megalomania -- very much did not like 'little network for self & associates' but only schemes where 'put whole planet under the yoke one day! thousandyearreich!!!' etc
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: (why ? because he was gunning for a reich, not decentralized-anything)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: tbh asciilifeform's chief objection to the 2010s-bitcoin-'sphere' scamologies is ethical, but not from pov of 'it is wrong to eat stupid people', but from pov that this is exactly what the reich wants to see so that bitcoin remains dead end
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: it's a massive ball of 'optionals', like most reich.standards
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: punkman: it was a non-reich exchange. so, 'had to die'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: they left ~one~ Official exchange in usa, thoroughly in reich's pocket, 'coinbase'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: don't tell me that you think 'bitcoin finance' actually exists. it does not exist. may have briefly, somewhere, existed, and may exist in the future, but afaik currently there's only two known kinds -- mpex-style, where anarchic but 'we'll take yer money, haha, moron, for trusting' and 'kyc' -- i.e. reich's attempts to
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 10:54:47 asciilifeform: managerial types luvv these to death, they reliably produce 'steady labour' flavour that satisfies performance metrics, whether bureaucratic (reich orgs incl. usg) or sadomasochistic (mp's)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: do they have working airports again in eureich yet?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: and you end up, at best, w/ mp's little reich
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-01 13:38:53 asciilifeform: cgra: apparently irc has this subtle braindamage baked in at algo level. and is, evidently, why all the great irc nets eventually not only schismed, but acrimoniously schismed and turned into palace-reichs and eventually burn down
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: cgra: apparently irc has this subtle braindamage baked in at algo level. and is, evidently, why all the great irc nets eventually not only schismed, but acrimoniously schismed and turned into palace-reichs and eventually burn down
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 10:54:47 asciilifeform: managerial types luvv these to death, they reliably produce 'steady labour' flavour that satisfies performance metrics, whether bureaucratic (reich orgs incl. usg) or sadomasochistic (mp's)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: managerial types luvv these to death, they reliably produce 'steady labour' flavour that satisfies performance metrics, whether bureaucratic (reich orgs incl. usg) or sadomasochistic (mp's)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: in fact, it is fundamentally foolish imho to believe that someone who profits from the continued operation of the reich (i.e. not simply 'rich', but w/out working) could genuinely take an interest in its destruction.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: in 'essential' -- the items standing b/w current state and transition to 'full rhodesia'. e.g. petro, transport, finance (complicated, but ultimately reich's complex, expensive subst. for Gosplan), nukes, etc.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-18 14:18:44 asciilifeform: not interested in construction of reichs; rather, the opposite.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-18 14:18:44 asciilifeform: not interested in construction of reichs; rather, the opposite.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: thimbronion, PeterL : the other thing was his megalomania -- very much did not like 'little network for self & associates' but only schemes where 'put whole planet under the yoke one day! thousandyearreich!!!' etc
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: trinque: i.e. 'in' as in $item priced strictly in btc w/out ref. to reichsmarks ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: afaik fella is a typical reich shill, in no particular respect unique or even unusual.
(alethepedia) asciilifeform: (a global, more or less, plague. the only places where not -- are e.g. eureich, where political prohibitions on foreign devils purchasing, e.g. timisoara where 50k$ mansions)
(alethepedia) asciilifeform: billymg: modern version is moar subtle (i.e. reich attempts to ensure that printolade ends up 'where supposed to', inflating financial instruments, real estate, etc. which can then be taxed for 'gains', effectively confiscating a chunk in favour of the crown, and rinse & repeat, 'goto 10') rather than uncontrolled corkscrew
(asciilifeform) shinohai: But I got an iron cross badge in my forum profile for services to the Reich....
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-01#1034974 << tried to have reichstag fire, but no one could find a match that'd light..?
(alethepedia) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/alethepedia/2021-04-28#1002515 << i for one am very curious re how -- even in principle -- reich might 'tax unrealized gains'. say gold--usd goes up, and you have gold teeth in yer mouth -- do you owe? what if haven't any money ?
(alethepedia) asciilifeform: observe that these folx are only ever picked up when (why? ask'em, not me) they set foot on reich soil.
(alethepedia) asciilifeform: re 'not even former citizen' -- could dispute; says right there, 'of russia and sweden'. sweden is reich territory.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-04-22 14:11:18 asciilifeform: mats: there is only 1 kind of class warfare in the reich -- yacht class vs literally erryone else. with the enthusiastic assistance of 'room temp iq' lumpens, typically, for the wet work.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: there is only 1 kind of class warfare in the reich -- yacht class vs literally erryone else. with the enthusiastic assistance of 'room temp iq' lumpens, typically, for the wet work.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: trinque: pretty sure even reichsmark not precisely == 0 atm
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: there's a popular but very mistaken belief that one can 'stay on right side of law' even in a reich and ought to do xyz, not do ~xyz, etc, and then 'will be safe'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: afaik scale model of nato reich.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: 1) reich is your enemy in all situations. 2) no exceptions to (1). if you take a dispute to a reich court, the winner is always the reich. 3) all courts on planet3 atm are reich courts.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: there aint a suitable magick string. cuz it in fact is not how reich law worx.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: these suits 'go somewhere' when it's in fact in the reich's interest for'em to 'go somewhere.' and not otherwise.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: (ossasepia) 2019-12-11 asciilifeform: RubenSomsen: fella was friend of an old meatspace friend of mine. was a kind of esr-style lottery winner, as teenager; developed severe delusions of grandeur 'oh hey lemme make a nanotech cad despite knowing 0' and just as the money ran dry, was offered job as a professional bamboozler / bitcoin disinfo artist, by the reich. and afaik is what he does to this day.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: trinque: 'soft' paperization seems to work a++. exactly as it worked w/ au, the circulation of which, despite legalization under nixon, never threatened reich's 'brrr'.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-01-15 15:29:55 asciilifeform: trinque: reich has great plans for the young, tho: to add mandatory endocrine bonsaikittenization to the 1990s--current psychotropics push.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: trinque: reich has great plans for the young, tho: to add mandatory endocrine bonsaikittenization to the 1990s--current psychotropics push.
(alethepedia) snsabot: (asciilifeform) 2020-12-17 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-12-17#1026503 << this is quite far from accurate description imho of what's happening. can't speak for entire 'civilized' reich, but in usa, if you 'cash out btc', and for sumthing other than a physical mafia suitcase of benjies -- tax collectors will take 50-100% of yer 'winnings'
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-01-06 22:14:56 asciilifeform: observe that reich's inflation is intensely selective, sorta like the fat of archaetypical beer drinker which goes only to stomach
(alethepedia) asciilifeform: thimbronion: afaik whole fucking planet is either a) reich b) this
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: except upbeat, rather than depressing/decerebrating as in today's reich
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: eh these 'aspires' are simply reich agitprop.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: observe that reich's inflation is intensely selective, sorta like the fat of archaetypical beer drinker which goes only to stomach
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2020-12-17 11:06:30 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-12-17#1026503 << this is quite far from accurate description imho of what's happening. can't speak for entire 'civilized' reich, but in usa, if you 'cash out btc', and for sumthing other than a physical mafia suitcase of benjies -- tax collectors will take 50-100% of yer 'winnings'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: or -- outside reich -- w/out the 'worry'
(asciilifeform) trinque: a hypothesis is that the thing never created space outside the reich, and as you say, even if we tried remote geography, would've been difficult to establish truly "outside".
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: and it aint even properly outside reich.
(asciilifeform) billymg: asciilifeform: even in reich, top capital gains rate (currently) is "only" 20%
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-12-17#1026503 << this is quite far from accurate description imho of what's happening. can't speak for entire 'civilized' reich, but in usa, if you 'cash out btc', and for sumthing other than a physical mafia suitcase of benjies -- tax collectors will take 50-100% of yer 'winnings'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: it is similar to how, in all (but perhaps the reich's) conceptions of medical ethics, doctor does NOT get to ask the question 'does treating this patient benefit societal good (tm)(r)(c) or maybe why not poison him'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: 'we can't ban trans-purplehair-nutters explicitly in reich, but can mandate java!'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: thimbronion: reichstag fire, presumably
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: these same 'journalists' incidentally nailed some unknown number of post-snowden leakers who did not make it outta the reich in time, and were dumb enuff to trust 'respectable journalists'
(asciilifeform) mats: the journos he picked turned out to be true believers in democracy, and poitras lives in the reich, so it actually worked out ok as far as he planned it
(asciilifeform) snsabot: (trilema) 2018-12-21 asciilifeform: iirc i said this after end of yr1 of trumpreich, 'guess what, still can't tell who is in white house by looking out of my window'. and can say it again at end of 2nd yr. machine is built for continuation of 'biz as usual' at all costs, and will work while it has physically with what.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-10-26#1023606 << afaik above-board 'official' corps in reich cannot actually do this..?
(alethepedia) asciilifeform: thimbronion: so, cr is in the reich after all ?
(agriculturalsupremacy) feedbot: http://mvdstandard.net/2020/08/germany-people-against-continued-lockdown-rush-reichstag-during-protest/ << The Montevideo Standard -- Germany: People Against Continued "Lockdown" Rush Reichstag During Protest
(asciilifeform) feedbot: http://mvdstandard.net/2020/08/germany-people-against-continued-lockdown-rush-reichstag-during-protest/ << The Montevideo Standard -- Germany: People Against Continued "Lockdown" Rush Reichstag During Protest
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: theoretically could dispense with the need for precision brass cases. 1 fewer difficult-to-produce item for reich to ban .
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: i still suspect that at some pt usg will close the ancient loophole and serialize the barrels, like in the other reich countries
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform inevitably recalls mp's 'trumpreich will starve clitler in gitmo!' etc
(agriculturalsupremacy) asciilifeform: billymg: 'found with cp' in today's reich is == 'found with seekrit docs he planned to give to british, german, and japanese agents' in stalin's
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: i got the eureich variant of kbd (the america-style was sold out then)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-06-08#1014390 << hm , i thought pythonism were verboten in diana's reich.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( and when becomes effectively centralized -- will collapse, as all reichs collapse. )
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2020-03-25 17:23:22 asciilifeform: ftr i do not believe for a moment in 'mp is outta biz'. he's very much in biz, working double time to poison all of the remaining wells, set folx against one another, make sure the earth properly salted so that republic (the only kind possible -- the kind w/out mp, the kind 'with' is called a reich) is properly down, and his theses 'properly confirmed'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( they sell 2 variants, ascii & eureich )
(asciilifeform) shinohai: For the glory of the Repub^H^H^H^H^HReich.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2020-03-09 20:58:20 asciilifeform: potentially solvable by '10,000-year reich 1 troo os' standardization; but would have to standardize a bash-compat. sh, rather than plain sh
(agriculturalsupremacy) asciilifeform: nato reich decided to copy the script.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ftr i do not believe for a moment in 'mp is outta biz'. he's very much in biz, working double time to poison all of the remaining wells, set folx against one another, make sure the earth properly salted so that republic (the only kind possible -- the kind w/out mp, the kind 'with' is called a reich) is properly down, and his theses 'properly confirmed'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: the amt of material on the net in eng that aint mildly-rearranged reich propaganda, would fit in thimble .
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: potentially solvable by '10,000-year reich 1 troo os' standardization; but would have to standardize a bash-compat. sh, rather than plain sh
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: by same 'logic' reich oughta be shooting miners -- what better than miner, to convert 'terrorist' moneys into 'clean' coinz