(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: hence wai current reich preoccupied with problem of 'how to make nowhere to walk out into'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: the # of 'unbelievers' is unknown, cuz reich aint set up in such a way that the captives' beliefs actually matter in any way
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( lulzy reich buzzword, gets thrown at whatever folx aint sucking davos cock vigorously enuff at given time )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: they've not (yet) succeeded in the 'great rewards to such as shall kill the prince' piece, in ru; but so far did ok job in hobbling the war effort in various ways, engineering made-for-tv 'atrocities' (e.g. 'azov' rigs a hospital to blow, throws the switch when ru plane overhead while reich cameras roll) a la yugoslavia, etc
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: it's the reich's algo, for ~100y nao, very seldom changes
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-22 13:01:27 asciilifeform: reich's bet is that he's surrounded helplessly by (1) and will be poisoned. ~month into the wank, not happened yet afaik
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mangol: reich has quite effective tentacles in both.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-07 13:30:11 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-07#1082912 << reich indeed seems to be betting heavily on its 5th column. the ones already whining about paying 5x the antebellum going rate for ipnoje xiii etc
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-24 14:33:43 asciilifeform: the covidiocy ran outta steam, nao reich needed new 'tighten yer belts, plebes, after all, $crisis' wankage; worx a++
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: the covidiocy ran outta steam, nao reich needed new 'tighten yer belts, plebes, after all, $crisis' wankage; worx a++
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: subj -- the supposed separation of 'biz' and 'military' world in current-day reich
(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: Does the British monarchy centuries ago count as the reich?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: copyrasty is a reich-and-its-satrapies phenomenon. like the 'greenback'.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 15:09:09 asciilifeform: PeterL: in 1900s, as inescapable consequence of industrialization planet3 was carved up into totalitarian reichs. these have gone and will continue to go by various names, issue costumes.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 14:45:04 asciilifeform: at one pt, reich installed mole (gorby) and 'won', and feasted on the delish minerals + sawed-up su industrial base & manpower for all of '90s
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: orig. reich plan was evidently to set up ru 'colour revolution' in '14 (1st, via 'colour revolution' coup in ukristan; then by having the installed muppet proclaim a 'croat-style' forced assimilation, and when failed, attack -- east provinces; idea was, ru intervenes, sanctioned to death, bankrupt, leaves delish corpse for reich to feast on)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: signpost: the 'controlled chaos' reich.strategy aint any kinda seekrit.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-24#1087689 << reich aint in some kinda 'ancient egyptian' static equilibrium tho. for instance, allegedly there's (or soon) a slowboat with 100k ukrs on its way to usa. who rather different from the portrait given in all kindsa interesting ways.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: the cancellation of middle class in the reich that mats was cheering for is moar or less the abandonment of the 'carrot', lizards appear to think 'stick' will suffice 4evah
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: reich evidently will snort own stash all the way to wagner/cyanide finale
(asciilifeform) mangol: is there an actual method behind the madness of current year reich foreign policy?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: current-day reich inmate slaves over9000x moar and gets less of anyffin that matters for it, than medieval serf
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: linux turned his hobby into a meal ticket, biting reich's hook, what other ending could there be to the story.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-22#1087212 << very rarely is their objective to 'make money' in the superficially-claimed sense. normally rather is to pawn the thing an agent of the reich's printing press and walk.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: billymg: prolly not satire, d00d is former reich ambassador to ru, and currently famous for 'there are no innocent russians' and other lulz
(asciilifeform) mangol: reich has regressed to the point that kamala harris can be vice president; not surprising that they'd mess something up
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ru at least has a publicly known ruler, unlike reich
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: and note that no guarantee who will sit on throne if putin poisoned will be similarly moderate (yes). so far very little in the way of countersanctions -- gas still pumped (through ukristan!) to eureich; refined u -- to usa; rockets not yet reinstalled in cuba (why not? high time) ; etc
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 14:43:20 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: moar interesting is the 'big pic' -- the current war in fact started from 4th crusade, and continues episodically in form of various 'drang nach osten' by impoverished western eureichs, who will not give up dream of 'lebensraum' and delish phree minerals from 'unfairly squatted by orcs' 1/6th of planet3
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-22#1087064 << imho rather obv. at this pt that reich doesn't recognize the existence of any powers other than self. the lulz where usg talking head emitted a 'china must obey...' quite illustrative.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: reich's bet is that he's surrounded helplessly by (1) and will be poisoned. ~month into the wank, not happened yet afaik
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-21 18:22:34 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-21#1086901 << the ru oligarchs fwiw were creatures of the reich, whose purpose was to steal & exfiltrate as much as possible of what 80yrs of collective orcish sweat had built. and nao that the brakes were hit on this exfiltration, naturally, 'pig aint gonna get any fatter, time for the knife'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ukr gold reserve, allegedly, already flown to reich.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-21 18:22:34 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-21#1086901 << the ru oligarchs fwiw were creatures of the reich, whose purpose was to steal & exfiltrate as much as possible of what 80yrs of collective orcish sweat had built. and nao that the brakes were hit on this exfiltration, naturally, 'pig aint gonna get any fatter, time for the knife'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: signpost: a little obsolete, too, iirc the abramoviches' yachts already confiscated (mostly from repair depots). reich is still free to try its luck with actual ru navy, lol
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-21#1086933 << diplomacy is sumthing that happens b/w actual sovereign countries. reich issuing marching orders to its satrapies aint it
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-21#1086911 << esp. lulzy when reich packages coupla actual facts in 'cheap disinfo with broken letterhead' etc.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-21#1086901 << the ru oligarchs fwiw were creatures of the reich, whose purpose was to steal & exfiltrate as much as possible of what 80yrs of collective orcish sweat had built. and nao that the brakes were hit on this exfiltration, naturally, 'pig aint gonna get any fatter, time for the knife'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: these are precisely the reich hangouts asciilifeform was referring to
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: likewise, the 'prominent people' are 'prominent' strictly in that reich-controlled publications decree them 'prominent'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mangol: the moar interesting aspect is that folx who nominally oppose reich regularly fall for its various honeypots
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-21 15:26:22 asciilifeform: signpost et al: worth noting precisely with what teeth that bite. 'bitcoin exists', pgp exists, and even warez still exists, reich has not been mega-successful in preventing free exchange of bits, or forcing people to sign strings they dun wanna sign. why, remains somewhat of mystery, but imho not unconnected w/ fact that reich functionaries hold btc and don't care to see it devalued
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: observe that not 1 reich crypto key of any consequence (e.g. intel's magick packet) has publicly leaked to date.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: not to mention, reich puts considerable effort into fabricating hangouts
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: signpost et al: worth noting precisely with what teeth that bite. 'bitcoin exists', pgp exists, and even warez still exists, reich has not been mega-successful in preventing free exchange of bits, or forcing people to sign strings they dun wanna sign. why, remains somewhat of mystery, but imho not unconnected w/ fact that reich functionaries hold btc and don't care to see it devalued
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: consider interesting fate of k. zuse -- who built a working comp for the last reich, in his mother's kitchen. 0 uptake, eventually smashed by british bomb and that was it
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 14:43:20 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: moar interesting is the 'big pic' -- the current war in fact started from 4th crusade, and continues episodically in form of various 'drang nach osten' by impoverished western eureichs, who will not give up dream of 'lebensraum' and delish phree minerals from 'unfairly squatted by orcs' 1/6th of planet3
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-17 14:44:23 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: difficult to object to this, asciilifeform a++ in favour of over9000x moar of this behaviour, what else could possibly stand a chance of curing ru, cn, et al from reich shitware
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: difficult to object to this, asciilifeform a++ in favour of over9000x moar of this behaviour, what else could possibly stand a chance of curing ru, cn, et al from reich shitware
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: and imho knowing the fact aint useless, despite this. is interesting to know that e.g. not 1 weapon in reich larger than rifle is made w/out chinesium parts. and not 1 factory.
(asciilifeform) signpost: https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/17/politics/john-hyten-china-hypersonic-weapons-test/index.html << reich's own news reports.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-03 00:43:16 asciilifeform: if continues on that trajectory, eventually result -- 'eurasian reich'.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: at any rate nato reich took the angle of simply destroying errybody's very concept of 'native soil'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-15#1084446 << already happening (reich collecting tribute from its satrapies != 'trade')
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-15 15:51:33 asciilifeform: ... from reich pov, plebes having savings is a bug, similarly to resistive losses in electric cable. 'pieces of yacht that got diverted'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ... from reich pov, plebes having savings is a bug, similarly to resistive losses in electric cable. 'pieces of yacht that got diverted'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: somehow e.g. reich's hoard of au etc ~not~ tool of soros, go figure
(asciilifeform) billymg: i find mats interesting because on one hand he'll share links to vice/newsweek/msnbc etc. with a straight face, but on the other hand he makes convincing points about how czbinance's jurisdictional arbitrage maneuverings will eventually defeat the reich
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: billymg: not convinced that it's the glorious reich 'smart bomb' as per the 'martian' subculture tho
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: PeterL: part of reich project starting '14 ~was~ to make him 'swallow whole thing', expensively
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( until nixon in reich Official truth was 'taiwan won' lol )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: rather like how great aerial victories by ukrs currently being 'filmed' via screencap of 'call of duty' and aired as reich 'news'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-08#1083372 << the 'saving grace' is that reich tech ~dunwork worth a shit.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: signpost: quality / attn to detail evaporated from reich fakes loong ago
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-08 14:46:44 asciilifeform: disagrees that 'can't help, so just ignore'. cataloguing the crimes of the reich is important.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: the 1 place where ~anyone~ can defeat the reich is in ~his own head~. and such tidbits play their part in helping to do it.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform disagrees that 'can't help, so just ignore'. cataloguing the crimes of the reich is important.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: if there were any risk at all of off-planet colonization, lizards would be nipping whole thing in the bud. as in fact a traditional proposed explanation for why reich organized a stoppage of all meaningful research progress in '70s
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-07#1083125 << fwiw asciilifeform doubts that lizard reich has precise numeric targets for net # of bodies. but certainly has composition trend targets.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 14:43:20 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: moar interesting is the 'big pic' -- the current war in fact started from 4th crusade, and continues episodically in form of various 'drang nach osten' by impoverished western eureichs, who will not give up dream of 'lebensraum' and delish phree minerals from 'unfairly squatted by orcs' 1/6th of planet3
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: reich already carried out a mass slaughter of the elderly, the diseased, the weak, by closing hospitals under ruse of covidiocy. 0 meaningful resistance.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: eventually wheeled vehicles will prolly be treated much as aircraft in reich are today -- if yer a 'ufo' (i.e. not broadcasting 'flight plan') gestapo dispatched and will be waiting nearby wherever you stop
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: there's occasional noises from reich re banning'em, but that frog aint properly warm yet, much less boiled.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-07#1082912 << reich indeed seems to be betting heavily on its 5th column. the ones already whining about paying 5x the antebellum going rate for ipnoje xiii etc
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 14:45:04 asciilifeform: at one pt, reich installed mole (gorby) and 'won', and feasted on the delish minerals + sawed-up su industrial base & manpower for all of '90s
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: if ru can successfully definancialize (i.e. never again give half a rat's arse what 'rub:usd' or 'rub:eur' is, or for that matter make rub nonconvertible like in good ol'days) then will remain a country. alternatively if 'libyaized', as per reich's plan, will be eaten.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: reich put pistol to its head, pulled trigger, 'no way will bullet actually come out' ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: like in prev. reich, over9000 folx very evidently would rather have the circus than the bread.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: reich has precisely 1 tool in the toolbox -- printer, brr
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: encouraging folx to load up on subj instead of reich currencies
(asciilifeform) mats: if it was me, who had the crown dispensation to waterfall, i'd find some pals to take the other sides of these bets and soak the reich for their coins
(asciilifeform) mats: maybe the reich had this power before mp drowned, but it doesnt look it anymore
(asciilifeform) mats: the reich needs legislative remedies to make it stick
(asciilifeform) mats: goxes wont even shut out all russian nationals despite reich attempts to do so
(asciilifeform) mats: thats a tall claim, implying every exchange incl binance has opened their order books to the reich
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-06#1082646 << would if could. lizard strat aint 'drive it to 1$' tho, but to dump as much as needed to keep btc-usd from obviously trashing reich.paper 'investments' quarter after quarter
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: the reason wai erry 'famous' 'anti-censorship system' you'll ever hear about from reich parrots is firmly centralized (a la tor) aint hard to discern.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-03 00:09:15 asciilifeform: at some pt ( asciilifeform & others warning folx for ~20y , it aint news ) will be 3 'internets' -- reich's, free world, and ad hoc sneakernet / pirate shortwave snail bridge b/w the 2.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-03 00:14:51 asciilifeform: to date the only brakes on that train was reich's thrust to push its volkischer beobachters on ru et al
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ... reich by all indications would like to jump straight to (4), but hampered by itch to reliably pump its bullshit to -- and engage parrot armies in -- entire planet
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: iirc reich baked an 'alt-twatter' for cuba
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: thimbronion: weaksauce firewall, afaik all ru did was ban the 2-3 loudest reich organs
(asciilifeform) bonechewer: The reich tried to cancel Eich and partly succeeded; I think he's out for revenge
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: incidentally a usd moneybag is reich agent unless proven (lol) innocent.
(asciilifeform) bonechewer: As long as your ICANN-managed domain doesn't threatend the reich, sure, it'll continue to be yours. Leviathan doesn't notice inconsequential gnats buzzing it.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-03 00:09:15 asciilifeform: at some pt ( asciilifeform & others warning folx for ~20y , it aint news ) will be 3 'internets' -- reich's, free world, and ad hoc sneakernet / pirate shortwave snail bridge b/w the 2.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: for folx outside usa.reich -- 'nice' typically refers to 'the aboriginal don't often attack', 'shops stock sumthing other than tinned fish', etc
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: census has 0 to do w/ it, reich operates various 'heil hitler' social clubs as one of the many avail. flavours of pseudointellectual deadend gluetraps for the susceptible
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: or 'extremist politics' i.e. 'folx daring to contemplate spitting out reich cock'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: 'Interference in American elections. The sponsorship of extremist politics in Europe. War in Ukraine. ... reasserting Russian power while taking control of the economy for themselves, suppressing independent voices' << do you habitually read this sorta reich lul ? leaden stomach and for entomological purposes, or actually buy the claptrap?!
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: if continues on that trajectory, eventually result -- 'eurasian reich'.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: atm they've signed on to buy ~errything eureich aint buying
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: if orcs surrender -- will be eaten, and reich gets anuther '90s and anuther ~20y of borrowed time.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 14:43:20 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: moar interesting is the 'big pic' -- the current war in fact started from 4th crusade, and continues episodically in form of various 'drang nach osten' by impoverished western eureichs, who will not give up dream of 'lebensraum' and delish phree minerals from 'unfairly squatted by orcs' 1/6th of planet3
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: reich made, evidently, a last-ditch attempt to get outta 'festering' and bring back '90s plunder bonanza
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: it's the logical endgame. but to date the reich efforts have been to prod orcs to (ineptly) cocoon ~selves~
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: the parrots in ru in particular feeling the heat, as of today 15y sentence for parroting reich party line. supposedly.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: to date the only brakes on that train was reich's thrust to push its volkischer beobachters on ru et al
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: at some pt ( asciilifeform & others warning folx for ~20y , it aint news ) will be 3 'internets' -- reich's, free world, and ad hoc sneakernet / pirate shortwave snail bridge b/w the 2.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: billymg: sadly imho unlikely, for obv. reason as well as the fact that moscow also runs a traditional printer-reich
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: billymg: that www is a reich organ, with errything this entails
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: shinohai: the sheer cheek + intractable idjicy, reminiscent of (remember it?) the post-devourment 'napster' where users were asked to pay reich per dload
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: PeterL: interestingly, asciilifeform met quite a few 'proud ukrs' who in fact from same town and dun speak a word of ukr. i.e. consciously reich-aligned folx
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-28#1081485 << lulzy. asciilifeform has coupla reichdns parked there, but still not kicked out! (where to complain?? or must suppose, asciilifeform's street creds as 'putler stooge' are weak..)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: wai putin didn't ~start~ with selling off his mpex^H^H^H^Hreichsbank holdings (or for that matter wai to do all of this nao rather than in '14) remains mystery
(asciilifeform) PeterL: so is there a difference between reich of Putin and reich of Biden, other than the color of the uniforms?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: PeterL: in 1900s, as inescapable consequence of industrialization planet3 was carved up into totalitarian reichs. these have gone and will continue to go by various names, issue costumes.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 14:43:20 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: moar interesting is the 'big pic' -- the current war in fact started from 4th crusade, and continues episodically in form of various 'drang nach osten' by impoverished western eureichs, who will not give up dream of 'lebensraum' and delish phree minerals from 'unfairly squatted by orcs' 1/6th of planet3
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: at one pt, reich installed mole (gorby) and 'won', and feasted on the delish minerals + sawed-up su industrial base & manpower for all of '90s
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: moar interesting is the 'big pic' -- the current war in fact started from 4th crusade, and continues episodically in form of various 'drang nach osten' by impoverished western eureichs, who will not give up dream of 'lebensraum' and delish phree minerals from 'unfairly squatted by orcs' 1/6th of planet3
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: reich spends a fortune recruiting designated punching bag 'rebels' for a reason.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: signpost: not specifically the pipelines. ukristan in its current form was carefully tended by the reich as a permanent open sore and stage for provocations (e.g. 2014 events)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ... this is pestilentially endemic among usa folx; 'i dun wanna be a partizan, i wanna live in reich of 20/30/40y ago that was less retarded'
(pest) asciilifeform: whaack: in eureich, moar. in ex-sovokistan, less
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: srsly? don't see why reich absolutely must prevent runaway 'moon' ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: esp. the 'claimants' who are actually reich sockpuppets.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: billymg: unsurprise, lol. there's exactly 1 'authorized thief' in the reich.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: 'this fella torched the reichstag. see, we found a box of matches in his pocket.'
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-03 16:45:40 asciilifeform: at any rate, asciilifeform's pov on subj: by taking an 'amnesty', yer helping the otherwise quite sclerotic and feeble reich bureaucracy in ways which may later come to regret.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: at any rate, asciilifeform's pov on subj: by taking an 'amnesty', yer helping the otherwise quite sclerotic and feeble reich bureaucracy in ways which may later come to regret.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: thimbronion: reich tax is presently collected in (and levied on) reich scrip.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: a 'promise' from the reich today is worth tomorrow less than a fart in the wind.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-15 12:03:03 asciilifeform: imho ~whole point of bothering with the extremely gnarly rube goldberg apparatus is to piss on the reich in various ways.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: thimbronion: inviting btc users to give up the entire point of the thing, in exch. for some promisetronic 'legitimization', is an entirely expected move on the part of the reich imho. some folx always foolish, fearful, or conformist enuff to bite.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: traditional reich playbook where 'force'em to Commit Atrocities, then have International Komyoniti intervene' a la yugoslavia -- failed
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: that was, asciilifeform understands, the reich objective to start with
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: (reich press will mention it 0 times, for so long as at all possible)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( these tend to end stereotypically -- reich hands out minor mandarinates to the pliant/literate participants (as in 'occupy') , malcolm-x the rest, arrest sympathizers, whole thing forgotten in 2-3 wks )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: if they want to disburse usd somewhere, still end up going through reich organs and kowtowing to 'aml', 'kyc', etc
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-25 14:19:31 asciilifeform: is half of why reich even tolerates goxes -- to put brakes on the development of proper wotronic trade.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-19 13:03:00 asciilifeform: the reason why various 2010s 'they'll ban goxes!' prognoses (incl. asciilifeform's) came to nuffin, is that turns out goxes are a very effective instrument of exchrate control, and therefore quite valuable to the reich.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: i.e. fulfilling reich dictat re damping the exchrate and disrupting organic hawala network formation.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: for that matter asciilifeform aint in a tropical pirate island, but right in heart of the fucking reich, if these folx wanted to visit, could walk almost across the street.
(asciilifeform) bonechewer: sorry, it is common shorthand in bonechewer's online circles for the belief system of the reich: subjugate orcistans and make them host Pride Parades
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: signpost: was speaking of the notion that no one in reich does any longer anyffin resembling commercial softs work w/out 'fellating hr mammies' and heiling clitler etc.
(asciilifeform) signpost: asciilifeform: perhaps macroexpand. you're saying mp thought the cowards live in fear of compulsion to serve the reich?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: e.g. mp was convinced that this 'universal' nao in all commercial reich, went to davy jones's locker still convinced
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-27#1076890 << lulzy reich shithole indeed
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-05-02 14:33:31 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-01#1034974 << tried to have reichstag fire, but no one could find a match that'd light..?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( the latter largely set up to churn reich inventory and cull surplus males in goatfuckistans )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: bonechewer: it's a 'muppet' rather than 'puppet' state, tho, fuhrer coquetted with west reich for many yrs, then ran crying to moscow when his 'partners' decided to set him up colour revolution
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: bonechewer: funnily enuff, right here in the heart of the reich asciilifeform not yet encountered the supposed 'ausweis, bitte' 'vax passport' whatever
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: bonechewer: it's a spectacle put on for plebes in ru. to certain extent leaks into reich fishwraps
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-15 12:03:03 asciilifeform: imho ~whole point of bothering with the extremely gnarly rube goldberg apparatus is to piss on the reich in various ways.
(asciilifeform) billymg: https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1486051087736094729 -- it still feels like el salvador is the only sovereign actually pissing in the reich's cheerios these days
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: reich tax system is specifically, quite deliberately built to maximally rape the people w/ sumthing to take, and w/ income deriving from work (rather than dividend drawing). this yes incl. asciilifeform , folx like famous joe stack, etc.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: reich worx entirely fine largely using human material that aint working 'in good faith'. good % even thinks 'resisting!'
(asciilifeform) mats: working with the reich doesn't imply doing so in good faith
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: seemingly orthogonal q, but gotta ask: per your pov, are e.g. cocaine smugglers 'resisting the reich' ? or, are they part of it ? (could their biz model w/out it?)
(asciilifeform) mats: what if agreeing to submit, and not really, meant that partisan exchange operators could take money from clients of the reich, while resisting in other quarters through i.e. legal shenanigans? until v-day?
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-15 12:03:03 asciilifeform: imho ~whole point of bothering with the extremely gnarly rube goldberg apparatus is to piss on the reich in various ways.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-25#1076169 << imho not only not 'worst', but factually the only real purpose to bothering with the thing at all. i.e. to slowly get the reich outta folxs' hair, cutting 1 small tentacle at a time.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-25#1076174 << wasn't the allegation. however reich ~does~ control all Official electric usd motion -- buy x kg of fertilizer at 1 shop, x litres of diesel at filling station, get visit from gestapo. sell a car at dealership, didn't report the 'income' -- expect tax visit. etc
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-25#1076170 << seems to be a 'religious' q. some folx strongly convinced that there are 'dirty' coins. ( fwiw asciilifeform not practitioner of this religion , from his pov the only 'dirty' coins are ones you bought at a reich gox where entered into yer dossier; and they're 'dirty' only vis-a-vis ~you
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-25#1076136 << 'kyc' is a reich 'limba de lemn', it aint about ~you~ 'knowing yer customer', but rather about gestapo also in real time knowing.
(asciilifeform) whaack: there's a reason the reich sets up goxes and it's not for the benefit of btc
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: seekers of 'star topology' ~create~ the reich, rather than the reverse.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-19 13:03:00 asciilifeform: the reason why various 2010s 'they'll ban goxes!' prognoses (incl. asciilifeform's) came to nuffin, is that turns out goxes are a very effective instrument of exchrate control, and therefore quite valuable to the reich.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: is half of why reich even tolerates goxes -- to put brakes on the development of proper wotronic trade.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: any approach to fiatola<->btc other than the wotronic -- invites the reich.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-19 13:03:00 asciilifeform: the reason why various 2010s 'they'll ban goxes!' prognoses (incl. asciilifeform's) came to nuffin, is that turns out goxes are a very effective instrument of exchrate control, and therefore quite valuable to the reich.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( reich has quite lengthy history of gluing a mandate (recall the 'gay cakes') via Official decreee; the latter gets repealed on some technicality, but the 'private' orgs continue enforcing the supposedly no longer mandatory gay cakes, 'affirmative action', etc etc)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: signpost: the sheer amt of reich.sweat poured into misdirecting the searches for said $substances suggests there's a 'sumthing' to be found
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: rright, iirc pov of mats is that the exch rate is output of 'will of allah' rather than anyffin the reich does..
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: the reason why various 2010s 'they'll ban goxes!' prognoses (incl. asciilifeform's) came to nuffin, is that turns out goxes are a very effective instrument of exchrate control, and therefore quite valuable to the reich.
(asciilifeform) billymg: asciilifeform: possibly, but at some point i suspect the reich won't even care about the extra 20% "capital gains" tax, already taxed much more than that
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-19 12:24:04 billymg: reich must be getting desperate enough for coin that they're allowing the operation of non-kyc avenues
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: 2. ... in exchange for ~fuffles~ (e.g. bags of fiat not immediately destined to be spent on durable necessities; plastic autos; titles to 'property' in the reich)
(asciilifeform) billymg: reich must be getting desperate enough for coin that they're allowing the operation of non-kyc avenues
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( given as atm 'buying with btc' from a reich.corp currently req's ~2x the nominal mass of coin )
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-14 20:03:58 asciilifeform: from asciilifeform's pov shitcoins are simply ponzis (operated with the connivance of reich, which fails to prosecute'em)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: also imho unsurprising that sv printola pipeline terminals are directly pushing shitcoins -- the latter are a premier 'divert usd from pushing up btc-usd exch rate' reich.device. ( rather than merely general-purpose ponzis )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform admits surprise that reich has not grown a new, fresh shitoshi just yet. that one's rather long in the tooth
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: simply suffices to 'stop thinking like reich' and let go of the centralism.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-18#1074247 << in other words, what one wants from an anti-reich pov is to maintain 'lemon market' in 'alices', in econ terminology.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-10 15:45:14 asciilifeform: tldr -- if you anticipate having something to say to folx from reich dungeon, agree on magick words in advance.
(asciilifeform) deedbot: signpost updated rating of BingoBoingo from 1 to 4 << honorable member of the former republic. escaped the reich before most.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: imho ~whole point of bothering with the extremely gnarly rube goldberg apparatus is to piss on the reich in various ways.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: in fact the whole pretense that there are reich.permitted activities worth doing with bitcoin is lulzy.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: billymg: justabout errything worth doing with btc is 100% reich-illegal.
(asciilifeform) billymg: i enjoyed the reading the discussion last night. imo the elephant in the room with 'wot-powered layer 2' is that, according to reich law at least, it is totally illegal. iirc this is the reason signpost shut down the deedbot wallet
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-14#1073129 << well it aint hyperinflating. ru runs on moar old-fashioned 'eastern despotism' rather than west reich's printola firehose.
(asciilifeform) signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-14#1072969 << recall old threads re: the reich merely allowing a few nerds into the upper caste via bitcoin to circulate fresh blood.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: tabletop meth+xyz printer for all reich inmates, a la 'distributed defense' (how ? if knew, would say)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: (vs 'human-lite' bioengineering waste product of the reich)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: in fact , it's the only thing that scales; reich.visa dun scale (it is funded by continued theft on historically unprecedented scale, is the only reason it superficially appears solvent)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: from asciilifeform's pov shitcoins are simply ponzis (operated with the connivance of reich, which fails to prosecute'em)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: like all other reich activity
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: (and inexpensively for reich)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: sucks to a degree for erryone, in that there is not a deterministic algo for fleeing inflatola and consequently reich continues to steam along by stealing from ~erryone
(asciilifeform) mats: reich is still flying on tailwinds of back-to-back world war winning
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( and, separately, how does mats picture 'ceiling on printing', when reich is ~100% powered by same, for past 100+y ? )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: in principle asciilifeform agrees. gotta ask the q of why folx still invest in reichpaper tho rather than btc. and the volatility is inescapably part of the answer.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-14#1072950 << this'd be the case if the paper products were not products of reich financial engineering, where scamola deliberately unprosecuted (in fact encouraged), and freshly printed fiatola is delivered by the traincar to the compliant perps
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: unrelatedly, received a tip that old lulcow mike hearn has reemerged as a 'covid skeptic' (dollars to doughnuts, in role as reich provocateur/tame oppositioner)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: the parsimonious hypothesis is that reich for the most part simply ignores poor folx.
(asciilifeform) billymg: how is it an imaginary problem? you mentioned it as a requirement for acquiring coin (not linked to reich db)
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-13 14:08:00 asciilifeform: billymg: not immediately from a gox, i.e. didn't have to give some reich idjit yer postage addr, tax #, etc. to buy it
(asciilifeform) billymg: to break an addresses link to reich's db
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-11 08:30:30 asciilifeform: cgra: nobody's in fact abolishing cash, it's an 'unprincipled exception' quite necessary for the reich to function, and attempts to phase it out give similar result to hruschev's idiocy
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: billymg: not immediately from a gox, i.e. didn't have to give some reich idjit yer postage addr, tax #, etc. to buy it
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: reich finds this kinda noise interesting and occasionally pays a pittance for it
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-11 13:01:22 asciilifeform: gregory5: the evidence in favour of this narrative (incidentally the traditional su version) is imho overwhelming (consider munich, at which time the ~french police force~ could've easily sufficed to defeat germany..) but traditionally 'unhappened' in the west reich
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregory5: the evidence in favour of this narrative (incidentally the traditional su version) is imho overwhelming (consider munich, at which time the ~french police force~ could've easily sufficed to defeat germany..) but traditionally 'unhappened' in the west reich
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: incidentally worth noting that reich doesn't tax 'so that it has money', almost errything it spends comes directly from 'printer'. it taxes to keep a lid on demand pressure from plebes
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: cgra: nobody's in fact abolishing cash, it's an 'unprincipled exception' quite necessary for the reich to function, and attempts to phase it out give similar result to hruschev's idiocy
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: cgra: humorous reference to ancient meme. but at same time reich ~wishes~ it had such a thing, no doubt
(asciilifeform) bonechewer: Folks are getting wise to the net present value of reichsbux vs. functional capital items. I bought a 2009 SUV two years ago for $8k, now see folx online asking ~$12k for same model with comparable mileage
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: tldr -- if you anticipate having something to say to folx from reich dungeon, agree on magick words in advance.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform would not regard messages purporting to originate from a reich captive as authentic for any serious purpose; w/ exception of an unlikely escape & getting to his keyz
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( dunno if even makes a diff, reich has a 'profits of crimes' reich.law where crown keeps 100% iirc )
(asciilifeform) billymg: just saying, it's reich tax on 100% of purchase vs. bananastan tax on only imports
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: and similarly BingoBoingo in uy, iirc was only able to get a reich-enabled 'lite' acct after giving us passport
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: (wherever yer living, if yer fiatola accts or cashflows are in reich, yer living in the reich, elementarily)
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-02-21 17:42:13 asciilifeform: there aint a suitable magick string. cuz it in fact is not how reich law worx.
(pest) asciilifeform[billymg]: doesn't seem readily distinguishable from past N yrs of reichpress ethertardium agitprop
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: d4: serpent was the original winner of the old 'aes' contest, was vetoed by reich supposedly because 'too expensive in hardware'.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-30#1070306 << it aint as if there's any shortage of reading material re what it's like to be warehoused in a reich-sponsored flat, for instance.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: billymg: keep in mind that 1 of the aims of reich's btc damping is to buy it up 'cheaply'. (certainly not for 'giveaway' of cheapcoinz to plebes)
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-29 13:18:55 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-29#1070003 << reich pumped it, which makes it trivial for'em to then dump it
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: in the current reich, otoh, constantly running into such folx
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: the quickest way to see what reich stats are worth is to look at own wallet. asciilifeform's expenses in past 2y up considerably farther from the Official 6% or what was it.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: it aint a seekrit that the Official reich.inflation quite overtly excludes almost errybody's major expenses (housing, medical, collegism, etc)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: is mats's null hypothesis really that 'reich stats are troo' ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: what next, 'explain why you think' reich.inflation stat is fiction ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: they're reich.fictions.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-29 10:37:34 billymg: also impressed at the reich's efficiency in suppressing the exchange rate (i believe signpost shared this or a similar chart before but can't find the log line)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: (and yer 'most' people are the kind who like to read reich censored rag)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: (ditto re: the *readers*. wtf, reading reich rag and 'surprised' that censored?)
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-29 10:37:34 billymg: also impressed at the reich's efficiency in suppressing the exchange rate (i believe signpost shared this or a similar chart before but can't find the log line)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-29#1070003 << reich pumped it, which makes it trivial for'em to then dump it
(asciilifeform) billymg: also impressed at the reich's efficiency in suppressing the exchange rate (i believe signpost shared this or a similar chart before but can't find the log line)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: signpost: personally asciilifeform suspects that rpi was baked under the 'undermine linux' reich.project
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: punkman: thinking about it further -- plastic rifle is more or less ideal for reich issue to 'barbarians', in light of its limited life