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vex: alf: your weblogger for this chan still logs freenode?
vex: I saw gregor mentioned hainan free port on da logs, evidently not on dulap
vex: noone here on testnet island is allowed off since covid19, unless one has offshore biz to attend to
vex: I wonder if they need vegemite, or bulloks or something
vex: verisimilitude, getting hit in the face is overated
vex: try it if you must, but I can't recommend it
verisimilitude: I figure.
vex: so much of your face is breakable, and your brain is right there, it's quite important
verisimilitude: I'd hate to have my lovely face disfigured.
vex: I wonder if gregor knows about the freeport at ban mom
vex 'll bbl
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-12 01:00:16 vex: so much of your face is breakable, and your brain is right there, it's quite important
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-12 01:24:43 vex: I wonder if gregor knows about the freeport at ban mom
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-12#1045526 << it does, but ~nuffin's happened in #a there for week+
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-12 00:38:48 vex: alf: your weblogger for this chan still logs freenode?
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 17 nodes...
watchglass: 185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.091s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=690702 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=690702 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.085s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=690702
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.183s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=690702
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=690702 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.144s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=690702
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.174s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=690702
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.159s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=690702
watchglass: 176.9.59.199:8333 : (static.199.59.9.176.clients.your-server.de) Alive: (0.281s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=412062 (Operator: jurov)
watchglass: 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.258s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=690702
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.613s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=690702
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
watchglass: 213.109.238.156:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
billymg: asciilifeform: as of late afternoon yesterday the trb nodes started picking up a bunch of spam peers again http://bitdash.io/nodes/205.134.172.27-8333
gregory4: sorry wrong window.
asciilifeform: billymg: indeed mega-spamola. doesn't seem to interfere w/ timely block-eating, interestingly.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: what's the main resource constraint on block eating again? CPU or memory?
thestringpuller: not looking forward to bootstrapping new trb node from ground up - wanting to throw as much resource as possible at it to speed up process
billymg: thestringpuller: just start with asciilifeform's torrent of the block db
asciilifeform: billymg: that torrent was a dud (dumpblock bug), i gotta bake new one
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-12 11:34:24 thestringpuller: asciilifeform: what's the main resource constraint on block eating again? CPU or memory?
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-12 19:21:41 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-12#1038968 << 99.9% of sync time is spent idling. hardware barely matters at all.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-12 11:35:02 thestringpuller: not looking forward to bootstrapping new trb node from ground up - wanting to throw as much resource as possible at it to speed up process
thestringpuller: satoshi's turd keeps on giving
billymg: asciilifeform: my understanding was that prb solved the slow sync by allowing out-of-order syncing. i.e. blocks don't need to come in sequentially from 0 - 690k (i admit my understanding on this topic is pretty shallow)
asciilifeform: billymg: see here
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-12 01:00:16 vex: so much of your face is breakable, and your brain is right there, it's quite important
dulapbot: (ossasepia) 2020-03-25 trinque: anyhow, in january I was pretty damned injured, and there were subsequent legal matters to attend to, as it was not officer clint eastwood who arrived to buy me a beer for defending myself.
signpost: I rec to verisimilitude that he joins a martial arts dojo of some kind. fighting irl is terrible even if you "win"
billymg: ^ this
punkman: asciilifeform: these log links are broken in logs "http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-12#1234567"
signpost: see also Jocko Willink on the wisdom of running away
signpost: (ex navy seal)
asciilifeform: punkman: oh ha i'ma have to add these to the regexp which substs
billymg did some mma for a while and after taking some bad hits a few times thought wtf am i doing this for
signpost is fine now, but getting one's bell rung ain't good.
punkman: signpost: I'm archiving all kinds of #b-a/#t things, noticed deedbot pastes are gone.
asciilifeform: iirc these expire (week?)
signpost: punkman: yeah, they are ephemeral at the "this sqlite deeb is now too big" level
billymg: asciilifeform: thanks for the extra clarification
signpost: I mighta automated, don't recall
punkman: are there backups or gone forever?
signpost: no backups on my end
signpost: iirc someone might've had a bot hucking them into archive.is
thimbronion: punkman: you may be interested in http://thimbron.com/2021/06/log-link-index/. Index was performed too late to catch the pastes.
thimbronion: also archive.is is allergic to itself being indexed.
punkman: is this just index of links or did you try grabbing the content for each link?
thimbronion: punkman: the content is all there, but broken up into chunks that fit in psql text records.
punkman: thimbronion: how did you grab the content?
thimbronion: punkman: I wrote a lisp program that runs through the logs and attempts to load each link in a headless chrome instance.
punkman: fun times in South Africa
billymg: punkman: looks like they're at a cat 4
verisimilitude: They're just trying to get their lives back on track, punkman.
dulapbot: Logged on 2020-11-09 14:02:59 asciilifeform: mats: how does it differ from other schools of karatism ?
dulapbot: Logged on 2020-11-09 14:01:43 mats: i would highly recommend learning bjj if you have any interest in self defense, its truly combat sport for nerds
verisimilitude: I notice apartheid was so important Hollywood movies targeted it, but now they don't mention South Africa at all.
gregory4 had not realized that "mats" was in the Army. the situation reminds gregory4 of Kevin Jiang (RIP).
mats: uhh alright
mats: don't kill me bro
gregory4: I just meant that among veterans I have seen almost no Chinese Americans.
thestringpuller: signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-12#1045583 << for some reason this brought up memories of my weeb self in high school. had friend who's brother went to dojo, where the sensei regularly prowled industrial atlanta looking to get mugged for knife fights as "practice"
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-12 12:30:13 signpost: I rec to verisimilitude that he joins a martial arts dojo of some kind. fighting irl is terrible even if you "win"
thestringpuller: current _practical_ martial arts expert in meatwot regularly says, "best case scenario if weapon pulled on you while unnarmed: you give them your shit and walk away unscathed"
verisimilitude: This is amazing, a server ``security'' feature controlled entirely by the client.
verisimilitude: Nowhere in the article do they admit using the WWW for banking may just be a stupid idea.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: it aint a 'server' seekoority feature.
asciilifeform: is (largely bogus) client side thing.
asciilifeform: ftr in usa there's just about no other kind of banking remaining, than automated/www .
asciilifeform: physical bank offices mostly vanished.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i still go into the bank
verisimilitude: None of the retards cheering this on even see an issue with repeatedly piling on garbage that doesn't even work.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: imagine for a moment -- they were to see. then what.
verisimilitude: That's a good question.
gregory4: the murderer of Kevin Jiang, a first-generation Chinese American named Qinxuan Pan, is scheduled for two court-hearings on 13 July 2021.
gregory4: Mr Jiang was the brother that I never met.
gregory4: I am sorely displeased with his loss, and have been following the case rather closely.
asciilifeform: gregory4: i have nfi who these people were. can explain briefly why notable ?
gregory4: asciilifeform: 2nd gen. Chinese American Yale student (allegedly) murdered by 1st gen. Chinese American MIT student back in February.
gregory4: murder done in complex manner, as if perp. thought himself to be criminal mastermind; in this sense, slightly reminiscent of Leopold & Loeb.
gregory4: incident tangentially relates to earlier remark of "mats" about ethnic Asians in Ivy League. Mr Jiang was also veteran.
gregory4: the "mastermind" theme is also reminiscent of character in Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment.
gregory4: (I imagine that you must know Dostoevsky and Tolstoy quite well, haha..)
signpost figures there were many murders on the same day as Jiang. curious why this one bothers gregory4
asciilifeform: fishwrap: 'The court documents also reveal Pan used his credit card to reserve a room at the Best Western right next door to the Arby's.' << not mega-prizewinner in re 'mastermind' was he.
asciilifeform: seems like the 2 were sharing a woman?
asciilifeform thinks: bog-standard 'бытовуха' (untranslatable orc term for this kinda thing, i.e. where son stabs father with broken bottle they had emptied together, and similar, ~50-70% of prison inmates in ru are these)
asciilifeform: what was notable, i suppose, is that 'researchers' at mit/yale ?
gregory4: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-12#1045641 << as child of immigrants, can relate to victim, I guess.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-12 20:23:38 signpost: figures there were many murders on the same day as Jiang. curious why this one bothers gregory4
asciilifeform: but, lol, not to the perp?
asciilifeform: werent they both..?
gregory4: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-12#1045648 << perp. was immigrant. victim was child of immigrants. non-trivial difference.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-12 21:13:51 asciilifeform: but, lol, not to the perp?
gregory4: to clarify, I do not regard children/grandchildren of immigrants to be "immigrants." immigration is not a hereditary condition.
gregory4: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-12#1045654 << but in American English, children/grandchildren of immigrants are also considered immigrants.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-12 21:16:24 asciilifeform: noshit
asciilifeform: wasn't clear from fishwraps that 1 was already born in usa
asciilifeform: gregory4: yea they have a 'we're all immigrants!' spiel. wasn't referring to this.
gregory4: example: Hillary Clinton claimed that she was an immigrant, because she had Swiss/German great-grandparents.
gregory4: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-12#1045642 << that was after his main plan already failed.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-12 21:09:22 asciilifeform: fishwrap: 'The court documents also reveal Pan used his credit card to reserve a room at the Best Western right next door to the Arby's.' << not mega-prizewinner in re 'mastermind' was he.
gregory4: the main plan was (seemingly) carefully plotted over several weeks as a so-called "perfect crime"
gregory4: however, as (alleged) perp. was returning home from murder-scene, car got stuck. police came by and helped call tow-truck.
gregory4: the (alleged) perp. realized that his plan was blown. police would eventually connect murder with stuck car.
verisimilitude: What I find amusing is how the standard for getting away with crime may eventually be ``The perpetrator wasn't carrying a cell phone.''.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-12 21:12:43 asciilifeform: thinks: bog-standard 'бытовуха' (untranslatable orc term for this kinda thing, i.e. where son stabs father with broken bottle they had emptied together, and similar, ~50-70% of prison inmates in ru are these)
mats: a pro would've stolen a car, not borrowed it from a dealership
mats: or, better, jack a car and frame up the occupant
verisimilitude: I swear I could commit a serious crime better than these idiots, but I have no such crime I want to commit.
verisimilitude: There was a bank robber recently caught because his cell phone tracked him.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-12#1045665 << at some pt this'll be -- if not Officially, then effectively -- an arrestable 'offense'
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-12 22:03:40 verisimilitude: What I find amusing is how the standard for getting away with crime may eventually be ``The perpetrator wasn't carrying a cell phone.''.
verisimilitude: I didn't consider that.
asciilifeform: prolly there's already a usg goldentoilet contractor finalizing Official contract bid for e.g. 'door frame that detects biped w/out pnoje'
asciilifeform: whatcha doing out in public without yer collar, slave!
mats: reminds me of a lincoln labs project to try to detect emotional states using audio and video
asciilifeform: mats: reminds asciilifeform of a $redacted (cuz asciilifeform worked there, and fucktards were quite loud through their cardboard walls despite Officially 'top seekrit') usg effort to mass keystroke bug via pnoje audio
mats: rationale being, i guess, something like an automated version of israeli airport security -- no theatre, just lots of highly trained profilers and blast resistant glass boxes
asciilifeform: (well, not 'there', but next door lol)
asciilifeform: mats: iirc term of art among polizei is 'hinky' (after the would-be reagan shooter) -- emotional affect of a 'sweaty' criminal
mats: i heard about the project from an intern, never found any published papers, but this seems mildly related https://www.ll.mit.edu/sites/default/files/publication/doc/2018-05/2016_10_16_WilliamsonJ_AVEC_FP.pdf
asciilifeform: mats: iirc there was a darpa proclamation , but dun have the link handy
asciilifeform: funnily enuff, concept was thoroughly lolled over in a robert sheckley story in 1950s.
mats: i thought i was being put on for a bit, 'come on, you know i've seen minority report right'
asciilifeform: (where mandatory 'sanity meters', on bedside tables, in door frames, in buses, etc)
asciilifeform: ('the academy' if anyone cares)
mats: maybe they have a model for captagon abusers bout to pop his top, who knows
verisimilitude: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-12#1045678 I just realized my chording keyboard provides minor defense against this.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-12 22:18:58 asciilifeform: mats: reminds asciilifeform of a $redacted (cuz asciilifeform worked there, and fucktards were quite loud through their cardboard walls despite Officially 'top seekrit') usg effort to mass keystroke bug via pnoje audio
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: could, y'know, also not keep 'bug' on desk, lol
verisimilitude: Of course.
asciilifeform: let'em bug the old-fashioned, expensive, way, d00ds with little drills, etc
asciilifeform: 'wait, that sofa was 10cm that-way'
mats: pros bring painters tape
asciilifeform: mats: i recall, was hyped. nfi where, if anywhere, went.
verisimilitude: I'd imagine it works for the same reason DNA tests for citizenship and other things work, being that they're allowed to do it.
asciilifeform pictures israeli airport inspectors holding up paper bag to face, 'is this darker than paper bag?' -- if yes -> beaten instead of boarding plane
asciilifeform: !q seen-anywhere adlai
dulapbot: adlai last seen in #asciilifeform on 2021-04-05 11:40:54: /away for a while
asciilifeform: ^ might know?
asciilifeform: (where'd he go, anyway?)
mats: afaik it is fairly impossible these days to really hide, without state support
asciilifeform: 'Contrary to the phenomena of stress identified at security lanes in other airports, in Israel, no one is asked to remove liquids, gels and aerosols or shoes. ' << interesting, if troo
mats: i'm thinking of the hitter that got khangoshvili in berlin, who had a state issued, non-biometric, fake passport
mats: even if moscow went to the effort of plugging all the holes described, i'd think he could be discovered by cross-referencing against leaked commercial dbs
asciilifeform: mats: 'discovered' in what sense? wasn't the liquidator caught at the scene ?
mats: oh wait, bellingcat does mention the commercial dbs
mats: i think i've confused this assassin with a different team
asciilifeform: where's the bellingusg.com about how cia does ~their~ bogus passports etc ?
mats: i'd subscribe to the cutout that publishes those
asciilifeform: ( or say an expose about the liquidator who did michael hastings )
mats: relatedly, the citizenlabs people smell like csis
asciilifeform: and epstein
mats: (canadian intel)
asciilifeform not familiar w/ 'citizenlabs'
mats: broke the nso group stories
asciilifeform: somewhat upstack, mats << re 'managed' -- usa pioneered this model; so in what sense 'destined' ? it was already a reality century+ ago
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-11 15:28:11 mats: sg (and ru) has the much maligned, managed model of democracy usa is destined for
mats: the state doesnt quite control the media, various tech corps continue to vie for independence like fighting the common carrier designation
asciilifeform: mats: i gotta bite, which mass media co., exactly, not fully controlled ?
mats: i dont think that can last, the fake news contagions will build and build until its intolerable and commoners plead for censorship
mats: zuck still appears to act independently, and thinks of himself as head of a govt
asciilifeform: mats: if you open nyt or wapo, is full of 'the people are pleading for censorship' for 5+y now. ( in sovok this kinda thing was called 'по просьбе трудящихся' , i.e. 'by demand of the labouring!11')
mats: ya
asciilifeform: 'по просьбе трудящихся the cost of vodka has been raised' etc
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-12#1045728 << is there some issue on which he aint 100% in line w/ erry other reich organ ? ( if so -- i missed ? )
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-12 22:56:40 mats: zuck still appears to act independently, and thinks of himself as head of a govt
asciilifeform: from asciilifeform's vantage point, all of these fucks are bricks in 100% solid wall of reich. all the serious questions among'em looong ago settled.
asciilifeform: today the only disagreements there are of the kind where e.g. 'will ms or amz get contract for cia datacenter'
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-12#1045668 << can't help but remember e.g. hans reiser, caught (supposedly) with pile of 'how to murder', 'how to clean up evidence', etc. books
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-12 22:07:40 mats: a pro would've stolen a car, not borrowed it from a dealership
dulapbot: (trilema) 2017-11-24 gabriel_laddel: #! the people in real life are the people from movies not the people from real life
asciilifeform: ^ iirc tlp
mats: lol, clever
mats: i got the sense that trump and zuck had a compact, where they shielded each other from censorship, plus other favors changing hands
mats: and when it was politically expedient, the former was jettisoned
mats: looks like a relationship between peers, rather than a hegemon directing vassals
mats: an informal arrangement between heads of state.
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