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billymg: asciilifeform: got it and i'm seeding now
signpost: inb4 gabriel_laddel shows up with a peg leg and tales of his time in prison.
lobbes: lol
billymg: a few errors when extracting but it looks like it's all there
lobbes is likewise seeding torrent, btw
billymg: asciilifeform: or anyone else, do you know if there's a way to force the browser to recognize the files as html? most of them don't have the .html extension so chromium just displays the source rather than the rendered page?
signpost: fart up a webserver in the directory. python has one in the std lib somewhere.
signpost: python3 -m http.server 8000 --bind # this kind of thing
billymg: signpost: ty!
billymg went straight for index.html and opened that up before looking at anything else
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 18:47:46 asciilifeform: trinque iirc once did sumthing similar
signpost: << thing about it is that I've never met the creature that stayed there and held down a job simultaneously.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 18:47:58 asciilifeform: achived, iirc, satori.
puman: hello old friends
puman: started old MP post reading binge ~5 days ago, got error on today, fianlly saw the news now
puman: asciilifeform, thank you for the tarball, much appreciated
gregorynyssa: << is pervasive meta-reference (eg. discussing how to write a letter of condolence within a letter of condolence) an American-specific habit? I see it all the time, unfortunately.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-28 22:30:33 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in wtf, people.
gregorynyssa: do Russians talk like this too?
shinohai: Wow that is an odd sort of memento mori, and I have seen everything from great prose to outright cringe this week.
asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: nobody but maniacs 'talks like this', lol
asciilifeform: << he evidently had a bunch of symlinks, driving wget mad; some files got duped, ended up with .1 .2 etc extensions. i expect all the crawlable links got crawled, tho.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-29 00:03:51 billymg: a few errors when extracting but it looks like it's all there
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-29 00:17:23 puman: hello old friends
asciilifeform: !q seen-anywhere punkman
snsabot: punkman last seen in #trilema on 2016-05-13 02:17:35: it does but you need various packages to compile it
asciilifeform: while on subj, the drowned maniac's www is a good illustration of why not to use mysql : it falls down under load (not 1st time, either, for his)
asciilifeform: postgres (in asciilifeform's decade of using it under all kinds of loads) -- never.
asciilifeform: << where's this 'great' ? all i saw was 'cringe'
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-29 07:51:40 shinohai: Wow that is an odd sort of memento mori, and I have seen everything from great prose to outright cringe this week.
asciilifeform: the only thing, imho, moar pathetic than sucking a gaslighting sociopath's cock , is continuing to suck the bloated corpse after he bites it
shinohai: I've read well-written pieces on Stalin and Hitler too, has nothing to do with the subject of the writing. But imma leave it at that.
asciilifeform: shinohai: funnily enuff i've been reading stalin himself. (a beautiful during-life edition, too, paper still 100% white as silk)
puman: asciilifeform, yes, this is punkman
asciilifeform: wb puman .
puman: it's been a minute
puman: glad to see ascii has not drowned yet
shinohai: asciilifeform: which Stalin work?
asciilifeform: shinohai: 'Вопросы ленинизма'
asciilifeform: puman: not drowned yet; stuck on land, where will have to wait for a piano to fall on head
asciilifeform: shinohai: i can't be arsed to diff -- is this asciilifeform's tar or an earlier snap?
puman: looks like asciilifeform's tar
shinohai: Yeah 'tis your tar
asciilifeform: lol re the context where sits -- poor fuck is spinning like turbine in his coffin
puman: has a bunch of snapshots too*
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-29 10:59:47 asciilifeform: shinohai: 'Вопросы ленинизма'
asciilifeform: shinohai: rather deep subj, does not fit in 'sound bite' or necessarily belong in this thrd
shinohai: ofc merely aside
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-28 17:04:07 asciilifeform: in misc lulz: turns out that one casualty of the fleanodocalypse was the lock on #trilema. (not that, imho, there's anything left to be said there. unless someone wants to post a tombstone.)
snsabot: (trilema) 2021-06-28 Bugpowder: ghosttown
snsabot: (trilema) 2021-06-29 MPdrowned: is it real
asciilifeform: shinohai: if that shithub is yours, i expect you'll eventually get the boot from that shithole when they find the goat koran porn etc
shinohai: asciilifeform: Not mine .... that fellow joerodgers that was lurking yesterday owns if I'm not mistaken.
shinohai scratches head over y not just torrent?
puman: anyone from the old wot still running a business? I've only seen asciilifeform's hosting thing
asciilifeform: puman: depends what means business, neh. this re: btc-powered ones strictly?
puman: btc or shitcoin related, or even unrelated
puman: been out of the loop, was reading about this Taproot shit that's coming later this year
asciilifeform: puman: afaik that's it in re old wot. (there's a pair of loathesome fucks attempting to market asciilifeform's creations with serial # filed off -- but they were late-comers, surfaced after asciilifeform split w/ mp)
asciilifeform: puman: why do you give a damn re prbisms ?
asciilifeform: i for instance disregard'em entirely, except as necessary to filter liquishit gumming up trb
puman: curious about what shit they've baked in all this time I wasn't looking
shinohai studies prbisms in order to "know thy enemy", convert shitcoin into btc ....
asciilifeform at one time was curious, in '17 largely stopped, all the garbage has roughly same flavour
asciilifeform: is only imho interesting from an exploitation pov
shinohai: precisely
asciilifeform: puman: how about you, where've you been, what adventures ?
asciilifeform recalls punkman as tight-lipped fella about whom was only suspected that he was a greek, and no moar
asciilifeform: in other lulz, mp on front pg of 'rt'
puman: everyone doing the "what about teh coins" dance
asciilifeform: lulzy imho
asciilifeform: what, exactly, about the coins ? mp wasn't captain kidd, you aint finding his coinz
shinohai: I should spread a rumor that he went out to sea to hide his stash in the ocean, and let the redditards similarly drown attempting to look.
asciilifeform: 'fifteen men on the dead man's chest, ... and bottle of rum!'
shinohai: yargh
puman: I am indeed greek. I fucked off some time after the #b-a/#t split. Been mostly hanging out in Greece. Doing some computer plumbing, dabbling in collectibles, real estate and other silly things.
asciilifeform: puman: ah, people-with-money things
puman: #b-a ruined computers for me. it's been hard
shinohai: Malaka lyfe
asciilifeform: puman: i forgot, seems, that you were from the original #b-a, the one where people had coin
puman: not rich yet, should have kept more coins
asciilifeform has never , to date, sold a coin
asciilifeform: puman: on my planet, if you dun have to work, yer 'rich'
thimbronion: puman gave me my first WoT rating.
puman: thimbronion, I did?
thimbronion: puman: yeah I was gernika at that time.
puman: I've been thinking I should read up on ethereum and try this
puman: this web client is doing inline image previews, cool
asciilifeform: puman: if linked loljpg aint a joke -- the joke's on the joker, running that kinda scamola is a full-time job
puman: he had more comments, looked like he was seriously doing this
asciilifeform: puman: word, eventually, gets around. (even 1000y ago there were 'smart' fucks who thought was 'smart' to go from town to town an' borrow dough w/o any intent to pay back)
asciilifeform: what btw does ethertardism got to do with it ?
puman: guessing it's a niche that would offer good amount of such remote "jobs". HN fellow specialized in "machine learning" iirc.
puman was cleaning attic couple days ago and found old bitcoin poster made by nubbins
puman: fucking Karpeles again? "One reason for staffers' virulent disapproval is Shells CTO Mark Karpelès"
asciilifeform: puman: see thread.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-29 15:37:23 asciilifeform: fella apparently connected w/ no less than karpeles et al.
puman: guessing these folks wanted to get data on freenode users that might have coinz
asciilifeform: puman: imho lunacy -- who the fuck discusses seekrit 'coinz' in plaintext
shinohai: I use steganography to hide mine in folder of aforementioned goat pr0n for Hitler's future entertainment.
whaack: asciilifeform: i'm getting some password mismatch bullshit when connecting to dulap irc at port
whaack: verisimilitude: You ever figure out a solution?
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-15 23:20:21 verisimilitude: I'm getting some error relating to the password; it could be an oddity of erc. It communicates a small amount of mostly useless information. Anyway, I'm not worried, so I'll figure it out later.
asciilifeform: whaack: hm, post the eggog?
asciilifeform: whaack: also, are you trying to connect to the orig. 'dulapnet', or to the beta-arsenet ? (on same box)
whaack: i'm trying to connect to whatever is running on the ip i posted with port 6667
whaack: asciilifeform: not sure what the term eggog means but ^ that's what my client spits back
asciilifeform: whaack: this is your 1st time connecting?
whaack: asciilifeform: i was able to connect with a different client a week or so ago
asciilifeform: whaack: sadly irc aint actually properly standard (see e.g.)
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-16 13:46:57 asciilifeform: << i had to commit this kludge warcrime to get the bot to talk to 'unreal irc'.
asciilifeform: whaack: make sure you don't have sslism enabled inadvertently
asciilifeform: << i recently found a bag of shirts, by same, from the old crate
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-29 12:12:52 puman: was cleaning attic couple days ago and found old bitcoin poster made by nubbins
asciilifeform was dead certain he had gotten rid of whole pile, but there they are
asciilifeform: meanwhile mp's www again worx
asciilifeform: who found missing parts in tar, now's yer chance to grab'em
shinohai: Appears comments are disabled or not displaying here tho
puman: was probably getting some heavy comment spam
asciilifeform: lol shinohai , for what didja want to comment
asciilifeform: corpses dun read comments, shinohai , if you want to communicate w/'em gotta locate grave and shit on it
shinohai: I din say I wished to comment, I observed that *no comments were loading* on this end.
asciilifeform: lol already apparently cocksuckers 'sanitizing' his pile o'shit
asciilifeform: this is why asciilifeform baked the mirror (which horrified e.g. asciilifeform's brother, 'what kind of moron are you, that bastard had kilometres of libels about you and you cache his www?')
asciilifeform: let folx see mp as he actually was.
asciilifeform: libels, exhibitionisms, korans, etc. all included.
asciilifeform: and incl. the comments, incl. where he bragged about stealing jurov's coin and so on.
asciilifeform: ( 1 2 & discussed elsewhere )
snsabot: (ossasepia) 2020-06-02 jurov: And I pay no heed to TMSR anymore, because it behaved to my clients worse than any government.
snsabot: (therealbitcoin) 2020-06-06 jurov: Wow, i can't think of clearer admission that mp in fact hijacked tmsr and installed himself as government.
shinohai: Well asciilifeform *did* say из песни слова не выкинешь the other day.
asciilifeform: means exactly this.
asciilifeform not afraid to let folx see how e.g. mp paid asciilifeform back for 7yrs of unpaid wunderwaffen work, for instance
asciilifeform: or what he did to phf. etc
asciilifeform: imho mp's www paints (with his own hands!) an entirely adequate picture of 1 of the most malignant pieces of shit ever to walk this blighted planet.
asciilifeform: ...his self-portrait.
asciilifeform: projected, in kilometres of libels, against each of the people who made his delusions technically possible for whatever short time, breaking own backs with work paid for in insults and smeared shit.
puman: which funds did MP steal from jurov? reading some of the logs but haven't figured it out yet
asciilifeform: puman: confiscated all coinbr funds.
asciilifeform: puman: see the linked thrd, it was revenge for jurov refusing to turn over tbf to him.
puman: I had some S.NSA shares there I think
asciilifeform: puman: 'won't see these like yer ears w/out a mirror' (tm)(r)(stalin)
asciilifeform: puman: i can only assume you slept through the demise of s.nsa
shinohai: I never expected to make anything from my S.MG shares either, what with Diana spending all her time creating colored blobs instead of actually improving gameplay.
puman: I met jurov a few years back, good fellow
puman: asciilifeform: I think I read about most of the s.nsa drama
puman: was it after the ISP impoded?
puman: *imploded
asciilifeform: puman: aha
asciilifeform: puman: proximately, after asciilifeform refused to give mp control of asciilifeform's new isp.
asciilifeform: (probably would have, too, was dumb enuff; but if it were not the case that mp had made it clear that he wants to saddle it with 5fig/mo. usd$ expense. which asciilifeform had no way of covering)
asciilifeform: puman: see e.g. this wank, for moar, if curious.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-11-08 20:15:06 asciilifeform: dorion: you may begin whenever you wish. ( yer time slot is still to 1600 . )
puman: lol'd at that one long ago
puman: got a link to mike_c's case?
asciilifeform: puman: mp carefully constructed a bullshit-universe where he 'was right' no matter what, and chorus of flunkies would nod along, and no facts could possibly pierce.
asciilifeform: starting with this , i think.
snsabot: (trilema) 2019-12-16 mike_c: I pulled a MPEX statement in november, but post-dividend I have not been able to (getting the 'Unrecognized signature. Please email your public key first.')
puman: I visited trilema for old articles every now and then, but couldn't digest much if any of the "you all suck, here's my lunch" posts
asciilifeform: puman: ~100% of post-snsa material, iirc, was this
puman: still my favorite blog, for sure
asciilifeform: puman: good crackpots are pretty hard to come by.
asciilifeform: i'm still not 100% certain whether mp was always a scoundrel, or victim of substance abuse problem.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-27 18:24:43 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this split is a well-known scourge of friends, relatives of brain damage patients.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-27 10:23:49 asciilifeform: did wonder whether fella had a 'substances' problem.
shinohai: "Substance abuse" only theory that made sense to yours truly, and have pondered since 2018.
asciilifeform: iirc he had bottles even in some of his beach pics.
asciilifeform: quite possibly went to the bottom 'pickled'.
shinohai: Well pickles brined in sea salt *are* tastier.
puman: I don't see the substance abuse, but I never met the man
asciilifeform: puman: afaik imbibed on moar days than not, even in the 'functional' days
asciilifeform: wasn't esp. secretive about it, either
snsabot: Logged on 2020-02-04 22:14:39 asciilifeform: or, for that matter, his (admitted!) cocaine. imho still shows typical effects, even tho supposedly quit.
asciilifeform does not regard taking dope, per se, as 'moral failure' -- but does consider takers to be responsible for whatever it is they inevitably wreck while 'under influence'
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-29 14:45:40 shinohai: "Substance abuse" only theory that made sense to yours truly, and have pondered since 2018.
signpost: partying for years, the party has to escalate, no?
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-29 14:47:33 shinohai: Well pickles brined in sea salt *are* tastier.
signpost: << plenty of subdivisions within these. the stims seem to have the worst "bubbletronic" dynamics
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-29 14:52:46 asciilifeform: does not regard taking dope, per se, as 'moral failure' -- but does consider takers to be responsible for whatever it is they inevitably wreck while 'under influence'
asciilifeform: signpost: i can't help but remember gabe laddel
signpost: I find that glimmers of republic disappeared under this shitpile the only tragedy present.
asciilifeform: imho process of 'separation of cutlets from flies' is pertinent here; and may find that nothing , aside from 'fair weather friends', in fact disappeared
signpost: tragedy is surmountable, or what's life.
signpost ftr sees "the" republic as a fundamental design flaw
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-18 14:39:17 asciilifeform: i do not necessarily laugh at the misfortune of others, until & unless they are operating a 'palace', i.e. artificially imposed dependence on central machine.
signpost: at any rate, if he had a tenth the coin claimed, there are innumerable startups that could've been.
signpost: so why not, eh?
asciilifeform: notice how the fella artfully sleight-of-handed a politburo and kpss into existence under the banner of 'decentralization'.
signpost: looked pretty soviet from this dumb merican's seat
asciilifeform: signpost: he sent no fewer than (iirc) 3000 worth of spent addrs to asciilifeform , when asked the latter for help in nailing 'bch' fork
asciilifeform: so had at least this.
asciilifeform: (and somehow too lazy to set up a bchism himself, to do this..)
signpost: sure, neither branch is admirable.
asciilifeform: this in re speculations 'did he have coin' etc
signpost: either sat on decorative ammo, or ammo was 95% notional
asciilifeform: (at least in '17, had at least the above.)
signpost: i.e. exch rate * every listing on mpex
asciilifeform: very difficult, now, to say, which of the boasts were tru, to what degree.
signpost: just airing which thing I call "tragedy"
asciilifeform: what i do know is that his 'technical staff' were rubbish, at all points.
asciilifeform: and e.g. 'mpb' was garbage.
thimbronion: << I wondered the same. My understanding was that he wanted people to start their own startups. But then, where was his startup?
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-29 15:53:23 signpost: so why not, eh?
asciilifeform: thimbronion: actually this part always made sense to asciilifeform . mp did not want to be surrounded with (what called) 'jobsworths'. wanted fanatics strictly.
asciilifeform: *what he called
dulapbot: (trilema) 2016-01-27 mircea_popescu: so, how about : you show me you can in fact live like a man, rather than as a welfare child, and then i show you where there are partisans, to believe.
asciilifeform: it was why, for example, snsa did not provision so much as a penny for liberating asciilifeform from day job.
signpost: eh, someone has to start.
billymg: thimbronion, signpost: add me to that list as well. this was one of my biggest questions. man could've paid salaries for a dozen people to work full time and still not have more of an effect on his worth than a rounding error
asciilifeform: signpost: aha, plenty of these in logs
billymg: it would still not*
asciilifeform: billymg: see, this is among the few things i agreed with him in. start paying people, and before long all the dough evaporates, and you have what to show for it? a shiticon valley corp corpse?
signpost ftr has bootstrapped a shartup on own dime
signpost: it took a fucking decade.
signpost: and I don't think I could do it at present inflation rates
billymg: asciilifeform: it can be an arrangement where very low salary, equity stake, etc.
asciilifeform: signpost: pretty close to weimar
asciilifeform: billymg: i had 'equity stake', lol!! see how much good did ?
billymg: and only given to those who show they are committed for more than the money
signpost still anticipates greater, and likely war
asciilifeform: billymg: there was in fact a lulzy hole in the charter, where asciilifeform would 1st have to purchase mpex acct at the going rate -- which could be ~anything~ -- before ever claiming a single satoshi
signpost agrees asciilifeform was probably fucked over more than anyone
thimbronion: I couldn't be bothered to start another startup until BTC has reached 1mn roughly.
signpost: I can't claim greater than "serious hobby" on anything.
asciilifeform put up with this, because 'fought for the motherland' rather than expecting profit.
billymg: asciilifeform: yes, by equity i of course meant non-scam equity from person who plans to make good on the offer
signpost: only kind signpost ever extended anyone.
billymg: my point was mostly just that salary != disenfranchised bare minimum effort worker in all cases
asciilifeform: billymg: we never got , however, to the point where asciilifeform would be fucked by the charter; simply because the 'biz ideas' were lunacy from a roi pov
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-01-06 22:56:33 asciilifeform: trinque: re 'profit centers', asciilifeform was cured of this notion when rubbed face 1st into e.g. 'no, there is not market for uncensored undns'd hosting', 'no, there aint a silent majority yearning for nonwhitened trng', etc
signpost: at any rate, I can only express my gratitude that I own trustworthy RNGs to asciilifeform.
billymg: asciilifeform: re: fought for motherland: even soldiers receive room and board and small level of pay
signpost: and cram as much actual computer science as can find into my head while the world implodes.
billymg: the whole idea would've been so that asciilifeform (or other productive members) could quit day job, not lead cushy life
asciilifeform: billymg: we were 'outpatient' soldiers, similar to, i suppose, 'isis' operatives, expected to 'live off the land'
asciilifeform: signpost: i was thinking of running a 'hitler kaput' edition FG reprint; but w/ current shortages it'd be done some time in '22, lol
signpost pats his stack of mac G4s
thimbronion: << same. I'm past trying to convince people. My actions are argument enough at this point.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-29 16:01:26 signpost: still anticipates greater, and likely war
signpost: the shortages are transient. eventually you die!
asciilifeform: then coffin shortage, lol
signpost: hey, I'm not fancy
signpost: thimbronion: out of crisis will emerge all manner of historically recurrent political idiocies
asciilifeform: already emerging
asciilifeform: billymg: see various '19 wanks also re subj
dulapbot: Logged on 2019-10-31 14:12:43 asciilifeform: spyked: the 'clef' to that 'roman a clef' is imho pretty simple. mp ate at asciilifeform's technological table for 7+y w/out paying in anyffin but insults (i dun particularly care re the insults, imho it is how proper male conversation worx.) this had to stop eventually, as it meshed poorly w/ mp's 'self image' as 'god emperor'. last straw was when asciilifeform, after failure of piz, built new isp, with the orig bug that kille
asciilifeform predicted more or less exactly the denoument..
asciilifeform was digging for quite different thrd tho, re: how mp thought asciilifeform was a liar when describing being poor
asciilifeform: ... he disbelieved in the existence, in modern times, of well-paid contract programmers , and thought 'if can trade 4-5fig usd for b., then not poor'
asciilifeform: d00d's contact, for most of his life, esp. in orcistan, w/ 'programming types', was with folx of the 'indian web coad' variety.
asciilifeform gives up , for nao, search for $thread; if anyone recalls it, plox to write in.
billymg: asciilifeform: even if he thought you were rich it still doesn't make sense. 50/50 scenario where one guy puts up the dough, the other the sweat, is extremely common form of partnership. shouldn't even matter if both have dough to begin with, unless one is paranoid and thinks the other is a grifter
shinohai finally got around to setting up ZNC for dulapnet, will abandon fleanode soon
asciilifeform: welcome to dulapnet, shinohai !
asciilifeform: billymg: important pt is that he was convinced that i was a liar.
asciilifeform: after that was 'down hill'.
billymg: asciilifeform: ah
shinohai: signpost ... any plans to bring deedbot over?
asciilifeform: shinohai: i expect it'll be on the new net
asciilifeform: (which doesn't 100% work yet)
shinohai: Had seen net/connection woes in logs, though gonna review that thread again to see if I can throw some time @ ircd problem.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-28 10:14:54 asciilifeform: << apparently there aint a cycle-finder, at least per rfc.
asciilifeform genuinely brb
shinohai: tyvm
shinohai: $vwap
busybot: The 24-Hour VWAP for BTC is $ 36302.13 USD
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: and yet MP spent about 15k in BTC per quarter on diana's payroll from late 2016 - early 2021?
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-29 14:30:02 shinohai: I never expected to make anything from my S.MG shares either, what with Diana spending all her time creating colored blobs instead of actually improving gameplay.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-29 15:59:30 asciilifeform: it was why, for example, snsa did not provision so much as a penny for liberating asciilifeform from day job.
thestringpuller: and it seems *checks diana's blog* eulora cribbed asciilifeform homework free of charge
shinohai: At least I stacked sats w/ Qntra. BingoBoingo and jurov never let me down.
thestringpuller: shinohai: I've entrusted more money over my lifetime with jurov than any person I know IRL. I do hope he is well. He was right all along. No shade on smickles, but jurov was definitely the better broker.
shinohai: I never had bad thing at all to say about jurov, guy still resides in my WoT and is to be commended for keeping trbfoundation website alive.
shinohai: ^ will bring busybot back online shortly, was more painless to get it to connect than I imagined.
puman: "ask what time it is and wind, wave, star, bird, clock will answer you: "It is time to be drunk! So as not to be the martyred slaves of time, be drunk, be continually drunk! On wine, on poetry or on virtue as you wish.""
asciilifeform: puman: be sure to see the log -- there's a parallel irc net going, and logged in same place
puman: this is well fucked huh
shinohai: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $36185.34
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-29 14:52:46 asciilifeform: does not regard taking dope, per se, as 'moral failure' -- but does consider takers to be responsible for whatever it is they inevitably wreck while 'under influence'
puman: is this a matter of being connected to the wrong server?
shinohai now happy has znc + bot working on nyoo net in case freenode finally burns to ground.
puman: can't recall the last time I saw an irc split
shinohai: puman: asciilifeform set up own server due to fleanode woes
shinohai: so 'tis logging here and there.
asciilifeform: puman: it aint a split, we're building a new network and i deliberately log #a from ~both~ there and fleanode (while lasts) into same db.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-18 18:35:02 asciilifeform: the troo p2p topology i propose removes all kindsa fundamentally palace-flavoured concepts -- 'joining', 'kicking', 'banning' -- and replaces simply w/ freedom of association, i.e. peering & unpeering.
asciilifeform: observe that you can cite log lines and it 100% worx .
asciilifeform: doesn't matter , on day+ time scale, which hole you talk into.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-29 17:29:28 thestringpuller: asciilifeform: and yet MP spent about 15k in BTC per quarter on diana's payroll from late 2016 - early 2021?
asciilifeform: remember, diana brought cunt to the table. (and not only literally; but also 'obediently' !)
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 10:54:47 asciilifeform: managerial types luvv these to death, they reliably produce 'steady labour' flavour that satisfies performance metrics, whether bureaucratic (reich orgs incl. usg) or sadomasochistic (mp's)
shinohai: The blind obedience is the determinate factor there.
asciilifeform: shinohai: it wasn't simply about 'obedience' in the usual ustard sense, but in the 'anticipatory' kind associated with b&d
asciilifeform: 'conceive in your mind, my lord, your fondest wish, and we shall have the honour of guessing and fulfilling it' say, iirc, the houri in koran
asciilifeform: that kinda thing.
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 16 nodes...
watchglass: : Could not connect!
watchglass: : Could not connect!
watchglass: : Could not connect!
watchglass: : ( Alive: (0.023s) V=70001 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=689170
watchglass: : ( Alive: (0.082s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr= Blocks=689042
watchglass: : Alive: (0.142s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=689170
watchglass: : ( Alive: (0.130s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=689170 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: : ( Alive: (0.172s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=689170
watchglass: : Alive: (0.084s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr= Blocks=689170 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: : Alive: (0.149s) V=70001 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=689170
watchglass: : Alive: (0.161s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=689170
watchglass: : Alive: (0.246s) V=70001 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=689170
watchglass: : ( Alive: (0.319s) V=88888 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=689170
watchglass: : ( Alive: (0.244s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=412062 (Operator: jurov)
watchglass: : Alive: (0.333s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=689170
watchglass: : ( Alive: (0.549s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=689170
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