punkman: when mortgage armageddon 2.0?
punkman: apparently Zillow is buying houses now
jonsykkel: so whats the state of the art v-tron? found a v.pl version 99991K
asciilifeform: jonsykkel: i'm using phf's patched version of my own original vtron.
asciilifeform: can't speak for others tho, iirc most folx used mod6's pl item
jonsykkel: oki, ty
scoopbot: New post on cgra's: TRB OOM Patch - no_peer_dumpster
asciilifeform: oh hey
asciilifeform just nao finally read cgra's ~previous~ one
asciilifeform: cgra: i added your www to my link bar.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-08-26 10:57:34 asciilifeform: cgra: i added your www to my link bar.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-26#1053928 << prolly not, at least not as 'replay of 2008', Official reich party line is now simply to 'money printer -- brrr!' to cover any and all shortfalls there & elsewhere, i.e. general-purpose weimarism
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-08-26 02:32:48 punkman: when mortgage armageddon 2.0?
asciilifeform: where saw this? (iirc it's a search engine thing?) -- wasn't mentioned in the linked fishwrap
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-08-26 02:33:15 punkman: apparently Zillow is buying houses now
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $46941.09
mats: they've been buying homes for years, https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/14/zillow-surprises-investors-by-buying-up-homes
asciilifeform: mats: they dun appear to sell anyffin directly on their www ( at least in asciilifeform's locale ) tho
mats: is your locale seeing a real estate pump atm
asciilifeform: mats: defo
asciilifeform: vertical 'to the moon!111'-style charts
asciilifeform: ( see also prev.thread )
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-13 14:35:50 asciilifeform: why, for instance, 'real estate up 2x' ? was there a ww2? destroyed 50% of houses in usa? no. was there mass migration, suddenly 2x as many people bidding? also no. which leaves #3 -- doubled monetary mass.
asciilifeform: elementarily, 'printer goes brrr', lizards get ~0% 'loans', sell (and mostly to one another) at 300% markup, rinse, repeat
mats: itll be interesting when the eviction moratoriums are lifted
mats: large numbers of people who have an eviction on their record entering a rental market with more units owned by commercial property managers
mats: these incidents seem kinda rare
asciilifeform: mats: doesn't look like much of a moratorium, tho -- linked piece is marked '4d ago'
asciilifeform: 'Cartledge, a 7th grade student, traveled from Florida to present the grant to Waller. ... "Just a hero," Chad Cartledge said of Waller. "Despite everything that's happened, nearly losing his life, and he's still smiling."' << grade-a hitlerjugend, lol
asciilifeform wonders how exactly these folx see themselves.
punkman: my guess is ~batman
asciilifeform: the moar intellectually-bent ones i suspect believe in 'rule of law'(tm)(r)(c) and related bullshit
asciilifeform: the rest, simply psychology of faithful dog. met plenty of this when was stuck working w/ usg.mil types
asciilifeform: the kind that -- the more beatings, the moar faithful
mats: some people do the bike across the country thing and fundraise for cancer patients
asciilifeform: still gotta wonder what they think when time for ~their own eviction~ and the rifle is pointing the opposite direction from before
dulapbot: (trilema) 2017-02-07 asciilifeform: the folx 'with the guns and training' were raped by washington (shay's rebellion), by hoover (bonus army), by johnson (vietnam), by bush/obummer (iraq bonus withdrawal, retroactive, evictions, dekulakizations.) somehow.
asciilifeform: this is why asciilifeform unable historically to muster much sympathy for 'iraq veteran, his bonus retro-withdrawn, evicted' -- motherfuckers, you could have, should have, shot 1) your officers 2) your landlord 3) anything with a harvard diploma -- half century ago. but no, gotta faithful-dog instead.
asciilifeform: 'faithful dog-man' is the most contemptible, imho, commonplace species of moron.
asciilifeform: he is the backbone of every totalitarian shithole there ever was.
asciilifeform: the boy from linked piece is good example of the 'larval stage' of this vermin.
dulapbot: (trilema) 2015-09-03 ascii_field: they happily send their sons to army so they can 'die for a fat bitch's right to marry her dog'
asciilifeform: interestingly not erry man in e.g. usg.army is one of these. many privately will admit to studying translations of 'don't shoot, i know secrets!' in $lang
verisimilitude: This is why I've decided never to join the military as a soldier. The country has treated them horribly since its founding.
verisimilitude: I can't even blame it on the cabal.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: notice that asciilifeform did not say 'don't join the army'
verisimilitude: Notice I wrote ``as a soldier''.
asciilifeform: do join the army, if yer the armying sort -- to study for civil war.
asciilifeform: can join and work as meatrobot w/out 'drinking the coolaid'.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: the 'secret' fact is that errybody gets the treatment he's willing to put up with; and no better.
mats: armying is a decent lottery, most people get out with all their limbs and no ptsd, plus some college credits and montgomery gi bill
mats: some people basically finish an associates degree inside, while earning a decent middle class wage with tricare and and dental
mats: i can think of plenty of people i know personally who would benefit from a few years in the army, or in prison, either is good for building structure and careful time mgmt/allocation into lost adults
mats: its a 'safe' way for some to raise families
asciilifeform: mats: many moar naturally come back to work in police, or club bouncer, etc. and not quite 'all there' mentally (if not physically) but the brochure does not, lol, advertise ~these~
mats: sucks to suck
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-08-25 13:30:57 jon: money is cool
jonsykkel: how could i not with sach a worm welcome
vex: ask the question bingoboingo, liek old tiemz
vex: do eet
bingoboingo: Kindergarted cop?
vex: ya ya ya
vex: r u sitting down jonskkel?
jonsykkel: im redy
bingoboingo: Who is your daddy and what does he do?
bingoboingo: vex, are we still caring to know people this intimately?
vex: Yeah notrlly, I just like hearing the question
jonsykkel: retired, hencethus not much
jonsykkel: is good question
signpost: ah it's like old times.
signpost: hello jonsykkel
jonsykkel: hi signpost
signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-25#1053906 << sure, responsible in the sense that every president that failed to "scatter to wind" is responsible, only.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-08-25 23:09:55 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-25#1053881 << not clear to asciilifeform that 'nixon wrecked...' rather than simply put before the fact and ritually 'presided' over said wrecking
signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-26#1053928 << smells like it's going to be a bigger bust than just housing over here.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-08-26 02:32:48 punkman: when mortgage armageddon 2.0?
signpost: supply chains getting weird, employment, all of it.
signpost: whether this actually shows up in the fake financials is anyone's guess.
signpost: (for example, did anyone adjusted for inflation make a return in the s&p since...)
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-08-26 13:54:18 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-26#1053928 << prolly not, at least not as 'replay of 2008', Official reich party line is now simply to 'money printer -- brrr!' to cover any and all shortfalls there & elsewhere, i.e. general-purpose weimarism
bingoboingo: signpost, the one-way life of containers seems to have finally pushed Pacific cargo freight prices up (Did China slow down making containers?)
signpost: wouldn't surprise me if a sudden drop in consumers buying plastic garbage took out a few pieces of global trade infrastructure along the way
signpost: trying to find this zillow et al buying houses thing; I saw it as well
signpost: the real estate database shartups are all speculating in the bubble.
vex: is zillow a big thing over there? I'd never heard of it
signpost: I think trulia, zillow, redfin are the biggest ones
vex: one might use their pricing when bargthe agent etc?aining with
signpost: I figure they asked themselves why they were letting the realtors be middlemen in fleecing the consumers, and didn't come up with a goood answer.
signpost: https://archive.is/UMtHU << there we go
verisimilitude: I read book about chip making from the 1990s, and it mentioned using gallium arsenide instead of silicon could be multiple times faster, and it mentioned using x-rays for photolithography, but I don't see anything new about either of these.
vex: I smell a feedback loop coming on; they can't buy em all
vex: vermisiltude, whtcha working on bro?
signpost: maybe they'll do the chinese thing and start building empty ones, then make them into NFTs.
vex: run it through the evem and make a tax loss, it's not rocket surgery
signpost: heh, I'm sure these guys are all experts at tax loss
vex: I wonder if that automatically makes one a player in asciilifeforms book
vex: if you live in a macvhine, lrn2code
verisimilitude: I'm currently lazily working towards realizing my language model, Elision within the year, vex.
vex: even back in the day there was a "long drop and a short stop"
vex: what's your fave lang verisimilitude ?
vex: consider. /me'll bbl
verisimilitude: I suppose I must choose Common Lisp, but Ada code looks nicer and has more guarantees, APL is always more concise and pure, and playing with CHIP-8 frees me from so much nonsense of current environments and my machine code development tool frees me from text.
vex: have you got any Bahasa verisimilitude? might be handy if you wanna expolore materials
vex: I'm only postulating about the future
vex: you mainly do latin langs?
verisimilitude: I know enough Chinese to have an idea of how it could work.
vex: I really wanna hear some mandarin proverbs, mebbe wake gregor up
vex: you prolly know some
vex: I don't want to put you on the spot, there's a vast hisory behind every saying over there
vex: just like very place on the planet I suppose
vex: just knowing one is telling if you say it
vex: prolly honed over centuries, chinese whispers in reverse
vex: matty got his finger on the trigger, twitching
vex: "you're talking shit mate, step on" I love that guy
vex: ie he's saved me from futher embarrassment on innumerous occasion
verisimilitude: I know only one curse, translated: ``May thou live in interesting times.''
vex: honest as fuck
vex: don't fuck with the g ladeel bingo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFEZOjtrwls
vex: remember that
vex: jonsykkel, , y u no move to silcone valley?