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asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
btcinfobot: Current BTC price in USD: $54822.28
asciilifeform: !w poll
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watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length!
thimbronion: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-04-21#1034325 << Guy had to move. See also Connor Bets and James Hodgkinson. Latter 2 are more examples of (See? This is what's gonna happen to YOU).
snsabot: Logged on 2021-04-21 15:28:41 asciilifeform: thimbronion: why is it that asciilifeform can't name even 1 such 'finished' ?
thimbronion: Oh and yeah the jury in Minnesota recently came to the "correct" decision.
thimbronion: In Sacramento at least, all the shops have lambs blood painted on their doorposts.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: who's connor bets? as for hodgkinson, isn't that the fella who went postal in '17 ? or someone else ?
asciilifeform: (if so, how connects to thread?)
asciilifeform: re jury -- a++. let folx think twice before working as polizei for the regime.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-04-22#1034367 << not heard of this one before, but seems like professional beehive kicker, in broadcast tv ?
thimbronion: See also Nytimes doxing Scott Alexander - not yet lynched - merely had to quit his jerb.
thimbronion: Connor Betts was avid Mika Brzezinski follower, shot up crowd in ohio.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: re: scott a. -- see prev. thread.
snsabot: Logged on 2020-06-23 12:41:34 asciilifeform: thimbronion: fella was an obnoxious establishment tool, and imho even now 'made own bed' :
thimbronion: See also Johnathan Pentland.
thimbronion: Not like I give a shit about Alexander
thimbronion: These are just illustrations of how the mechanism works in part or in whole.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: imho 'the shoe doesn't fit' in his case tho. he wasn't 'punished for hatespeech on net', but rather walked straight into a provocation through sheer cuckidjicy on own power
thimbronion: I likewise have no pretensions to ever being worthy of being lynched
asciilifeform: pentland as in '...After a viral video showed Jonathan Pentland, a white 42-year-old Army sergeant, accosting and shoving a Black man...' etc ?
asciilifeform: not quite the subj of $thread either, neh ?
thimbronion: Related IMO. "This is what happens if you..."
thimbronion: Not like everyone won't be aware.
asciilifeform: 'first they came for' the d00dz who get filmed in bar fights... 'but i did not speak' ... ?
thimbronion: Lulz way too late for that.
thimbronion: First they raped the slave owners... "but i did not speak'
asciilifeform: how about the 'crowd in ohio' fella, how does he connect to thread, even as a stretch?
thimbronion: schizo technique - send the bat signal out to crazies and let them know who to massacre.
asciilifeform: crowd contained, presumably, designated victim? (who was it?)
asciilifeform: thimbronion: try to apprehend my argument : it aint the liberasts who terrify you (or the other 'chilled by chilling effects') folx, per se, but yer newsfeed. know that i heard of 0 of these (w/ exception of the alexander tard, and even ~that~ iirc via #a) and somehow live.
asciilifeform: and what's more, will be run over by no fewer than 6 buses before ever encounter it.
asciilifeform: if you make a full-time profession of sticking cock into wasp hives -- may eventually get stung. but even this, so far as reported, fails to impress
thimbronion: It's the anglotard in me. Muh freedom etc.
thimbronion: I don't have the hundreds of years of oppressed russian heritage.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: perhaps. ( can you appreciate why these 'purges' seem like rather 'weak sauce' to asciilifeform ? )
thimbronion: Oh yeah
mats: the internet narrative of victimhood is infectious
thimbronion: asciilifeform: speaking of conspiracy theories I heard an interesting podcast on Galkovsky recently. Interesting ideas about medieval history.
thimbronion: asciilifeform: this guy, I think: https://dbpedia.org/page/Dmitry_Galkovsky
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-04-22#1034402 << not merely infectious, but actively pushed by those who wish to distract from ongoing collapse.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-04-22 12:14:46 mats: the internet narrative of victimhood is infectious
asciilifeform: 'let'em fight an imaginary race war in forum comments, maybe won't notice their savings evaporating' etc
asciilifeform: this is a '50s-era decision, btw. originally made, in usa, to destroy the unions.
asciilifeform: the apparatus still continues to function a++ , however.
mats: sometimes it appears the police racism narrative is cover for folks interested in waging class warfare but otherwise lack material and popular support for their campaigns
snsabot: (trilema) 2015-09-02 asciilifeform: the discreditation of local police apparatus, for its eventual demolition and replacement by unified fed gendarmerie, is going on schedule.
snsabot: (trilema) 2014-11-24 asciilifeform: local police will be partially disarmed and yet more bureaucratized, yes. and ultimately - subordinated and absorbed into a national gendarmerie.
asciilifeform: mats: there is only 1 kind of class warfare in the reich -- yacht class vs literally erryone else. with the enthusiastic assistance of 'room temp iq' lumpens, typically, for the wet work.
asciilifeform: ( does even make sense to use word 'warfare' ? more really a 'class massacre' )
asciilifeform: in orcistan we say 'a game into one goalpost'
asciilifeform: happy lenin bday, incidentally, folx.
mats: in orcistan news, i wonder about the purpose of those massive troop movements to the border, and then their hasty return to permanent duty stations
asciilifeform: mats: ukrwank?
mats: yeah
asciilifeform: afaik it'd a regular cycle
mats: i guess the unpredictability and scale of mobilisation is the new normal
asciilifeform: mats: parading armies back'n'forth for the satellite cams has been a thing for 1/2-century and change nao
asciilifeform: not exactly new
verisimilitude: I'm more partial to Hitler's birthday, asciilifeform.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: that was tues.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: a colleague of asciilifeform's remarked 'streets were packed with the celebrating' on tues., took asciilifeform a coupla min to realize that it wasn't for the fuhrer's bd
asciilifeform: (apparently apr. 20 is -- somehow -- marijuanist day -- in west usa)
verisimilitude: The number 420 is associated with marijuana.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: apparently
verisimilitude: I don't offhand recall how.
asciilifeform: ^ tldr: academic group sends debianization-style booby patch to linux kernel;
asciilifeform: it goes in; then hoax is admitted, 'emperor is naked', linus et al lose their shit, blanket ban contribs from the org's email addrs (as if this did sumthing), complain to bureaucracy, 'ethics boards', etc
asciilifeform: as expected, plenty of name-calling of the pentesters 'criminals', as if somehow the crime were to expose emperor's arse, rather than, say, swallowing patches w/out reading, or using c aka overflowandexploitablecrashlang, etc
shinohai: Lulzy, though s/help and enhance/sabotage and destroy/ moar fitting.
asciilifeform: shinohai: loox rather like equiv. of the sokal affair, imho
shinohai: Nothing too interesting in kernel ml anymore to me, I stopped reading when the Rust Evangelism Strike Force showed up.
asciilifeform: shinohai: i read specifically for moments like this.
asciilifeform: it's hilarious, the sheer amount of squid ink people are able to emit to distract from their crime of operating other than via wot.
asciilifeform: 'stranger submits a malicious patch' is an attack vector only in atomized-moron-land
asciilifeform: this is the krebs story all over again, 'history rhymes' : somehow same exact thing 'not a crime' when nsa does it (for all i know, 9/10 patches accepted in lkl are from nsa shills), or whatever 'respectable' heartbleed-introducer. only 'crime' when exposes naked emperor.
gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-04-22#1034418 << in pre-WW2 Britain, only members of the leisure class were considered qualified for leadership-roles.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-04-22 14:11:18 asciilifeform: mats: there is only 1 kind of class warfare in the reich -- yacht class vs literally erryone else. with the enthusiastic assistance of 'room temp iq' lumpens, typically, for the wet work.
gregorynyssa: the logic, I think, was that if you need your salary to live, then you cannot rise above short-term concerns and truly be in a position to direct other people.
gregorynyssa: Carroll Quigley's Tragedy and Hope (1966) had a good chapter about these customs.
gregorynyssa: at one point he talks about the three negatives of British upper-class boarding schools.
gregorynyssa: namely: (1) we do not teach students how to make a living; (2) we do not seek to develop the intellect; (3) we do not seek the truth.
verisimilitude: I agree that ``Gee, we weren't expecting malicious patches.'' isn't an excuse.
gregorynyssa: the central aim of British upper-class boarding schools is to teach such traditions, principles, and manners as to promote solidarity among the upper class.
gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-04-22#1034459 << well, they are treating the presence of academic credentials as a type of WoT.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-04-22 18:12:49 verisimilitude: I agree that ``Gee, we weren't expecting malicious patches.'' isn't an excuse.
gregorynyssa: the problem with this, as pointed out by Mr Yarvin, is that elite academic institutions do not, in practice, work to counterbalance each other's power. instead, they act as a class, to further their collective influence.
asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: your summary afaik 100% correct, solidarity is the 1 thing they do not lack.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-04-22#1034459 << 'we weren't expecting to be exposed as making 0 effort to read patches and accepting/rejecting strictly based on substring in email address'
snsabot: Logged on 2021-04-22 18:12:49 verisimilitude: I agree that ``Gee, we weren't expecting malicious patches.'' isn't an excuse.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-04-22#1034455 << professional thieves almost all believe that they and only they are actual people; their victims, correspondingly -- untermenschen, to be harvested. this is afaik cross-cultural phenomenon.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-04-22 18:06:01 gregorynyssa: the logic, I think, was that if you need your salary to live, then you cannot rise above short-term concerns and truly be in a position to direct other people.
verisimilitude: I just realized the etymology of ``suicide''. We know -icide is the killing of something. Well, ``suus'', ``sua'', and ``suum'' are the third-person pronouns.
asciilifeform: only nao realized?! what didja think previously?
shinohai: I hope this doesn't turn out badly for verisimilitude ... usually persons concerned with pronouns are the ones out there committing suicide.
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