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snsabot: Logged on 2020-12-17 11:06:30 asciilifeform:
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-12-17#1026503 << this is quite far from accurate description imho of what's happening. can't speak for entire 'civilized' reich, but in usa, if you 'cash out btc', and for sumthing other than a physical mafia suitcase of benjies -- tax collectors will take 50-100% of yer 'winnings'
trinque: nah, there's plenty of previously dollar-denominated wealth that can spill from stocks into bitcoin.
trinque: this is a silly perspective anyway, bitcoin is not solely measured against dollars
trinque: at any rate, the next stock market crash will most likely both spur dollar-denominated inflation and more accumulation of bitcoin, so we'll both be happy
trinque: good evening asciilifeform
trinque: from another perspective bitcoin's value should be severely discounted if any interesting use at all gets a traffic cone rammed up your ass, can certainly see it.
trinque: by transaction volume the thing's overwhelmingly used as (ironically, given mp's old item) points of notional value in an mmorpg
trinque: in other debasements, got a chuckle out of the people of walmart taking selfies in the capitol building today
verisimilitude: I agree; I particularly enjoyed seeing the cowering politicians.
verisimilitude: Threatening the people would carry more weight, had negroes not been allowed to burn down police stations and whatnot for a ways lately.
trinque: curious why you like it when the derps today do it, but not the others.
shinohai: I'm happy to see it burn no matter who strikes the match.
verisimilitude: I didn't write that, but that threatening to arrest the people who did this would carry more weight if so and so.
trinque: ah, well, the cops also larp. derealization for all.
verisimilitude: I'm not going to pretend I don't support people more like me than those less like me, for varying qualities of ``like me''.
trinque: I just think you're mistaken about it being anything to do with race.
verisimilitude: In this case, I'm more like the crowd of white people scaring politicians than negroes stealing shoes.
trinque: it's class, and there are loads of whites down there too.
verisimilitude: I don't buy into the ``god emperor'' or ``4D chess'' nonsense, know.
verisimilitude: I just want certain things about me to be made explicit, such as that.
trinque: I expect that the next thing shall be normalization of the money air-drops as UBI
verisimilitude: If the negro rioting had resulted in dead politicians, I would've similarly enjoyed seeing that, but I don't recall a single case of such.
verisimilitude: Were I a politician, I'd probably feel different, but I'm not.
trinque: I can't find it now, but I'm reminded of mp's observation that the US still had much further to fall.
trinque: "such a wealth destruction as never before seen" or something
verisimilitude: Isn't it so that most of the USD which exists is recently-printed?
trinque: curious how long we can print money and sell the rest of the world bits.
trinque: verisimilitude: I imagine so, though I suspect any of the official sources of m1, m2, etc
verisimilitude: That's the fun part, trinque, the US has nuclear weapons, and the world can't keep staying lucky forever, like with the USSR.
verisimilitude: By the by, I'm now aware of an archive clone which is more amenable to Tor, if anyone wants the URL.
trinque: not so enthusiastic about tor, myself.
verisimilitude: I'm having issues with it right now; what's the true URL, shinohai?
trinque: verisimilitude: if nothing else, sheer cowardice may hold the states together for quite some time.
trinque: think of the cheap concessions that'd get these people off the street
trinque: used iphone every couple years, petrofood, bee-hive to live in, netflix, sack of weed
trinque: this is not impossible to just price-in.
verisimilitude: However, that would only be a good idea, so it probably won't happen.
verisimilitude: It's okay when negroes do it, because they're a slave race more concerned with stealing a PS5 than freedom.
verisimilitude: I mean no offense towards any negro here, if there be any.
trinque: I think you vastly restrict your notion of who's a slave
trinque: I come from scots and irish on one side. one of them was a coal miner
trinque: think he went down there "by choice"?
snsabot: (trilema) 2017-01-26 trinque: goldman just moves here
verisimilitude: I didn't mean to imply only negroes can be slaves, which is obviously not true.
trinque: just makes mention of the texas gold depository
snsabot: Logged on 2021-01-06 21:37:03 verisimilitude: I agree; I particularly enjoyed seeing the cowering politicians.
snsabot: (alethepedia) 2021-01-06 asciilifeform: thimbronion: photo op. i.e. they let all the tv personalities out through tunnel, then let 'ohnoez rebels' in, to trash the place a little. while cameras rolled, then footage to air in '8minute hate' in coupla hrs
snsabot: Logged on 2021-01-06 21:44:45 trinque: I expect that the next thing shall be normalization of the money air-drops as UBI
trinque: doubt it how, they're about to dispatch another 2k
trinque: none of this is in dispute
trinque: I am merely noting that the dollar distributions are increasing in frequency
verisimilitude: It truly disgusts me, how a soda corporation is largely responsible for spending so much advertising, polluting with plastic bottles, all in the name to sell poisoned sugar water. It's akin to how an animal defecates in the process of staying alive, but this beast is shitting over the entire planet, all to move money.
verisimilitude: People criticise the USSR ``however many tons chandelier'', but not this.
trinque: biggest export these days is mindrot rather than gutrot
verisimilitude: I'd like to live a decent life of making as little money as I can get away with, by doing the least amount of work possible to get it.
trinque: asciilifeform: I've just accepted that every time I reach *aire status it'll be just after it became worthless
snsabot: Logged on 2020-05-05 19:39:14 asciilifeform: thimbronion: i watched ruble die as a boy. suddenly had whole sack full of'em, felt 'rich'. until a little later, when noticed it wouldn't buy even candy bar
verisimilitude: It's pretty difficult to care about the vague future with everything happening, and I've not cared for years anyway.
verisimilitude: Does anyone here have children; that would probably be horrifying.
trinque: no kids yet, but I'll probably have 'em
trinque: who says life has to be what you wanted.
verisimilitude: I'm just giving an opinion, trinque; all I can write is good luck.
trinque: he's doing well, might not know it happened, or was just tired of it.
verisimilitude: I may have mentioned it before, but assume I'm dead if I just drop off here. I'd have the decency to announce it, otherwise.
trinque: verisimilitude: some grew tired of what was already done and fell apart
trinque: it's all there in the logs for whomever
trinque: I'd quite enjoy to get something republican-shaped *off* freenode, and still want a hand in that.
snsabot: Logged on 2020-03-19 12:32:20 asciilifeform: why the hell is a typical public www bound to 1 box? specifically, why could not exist as an auto-mirrorable directory of signed material ?
verisimilitude: It's that way because it's easiest, and a system without any guiding principles does whatever is easiest in the moment.
trinque: ah, in regard to "why one box"
trinque: yes, not wiping is easiest when compared to wiping
trinque: toilet harder than bush or hole
trinque: upstack, the republic's first task was finding more wot-nodes to engulf, didn't.
trinque: everything else is the meager roster grunting through trying to pretend it was legion
verisimilitude: In particular, I'd this thought perhaps when OpenBSD ran out of disk space and I couldn't login under X. It took me a minute to realize what was wrong. They don't care to report the error, as there was no good system boundary to do so with easily, and so the error got dropped on the floor, instead. A system designed to report such errors would've found a good place, however.
trinque: I figure in these open-source social systems there is not actually any coherent "they"
trinque: which is a relevant restatement of the problem
verisimilitude: The point remains that, having no guiding principles, dropping an error on the floor is thus perfectly acceptable.
trinque: nope, which is why I exploded in late days about profit centers etc
trinque: I got beaten over the head with some respect for the ancients / history
trinque: but I was less educated than you
snsabot: Logged on 2020-08-20 19:00:15 asciilifeform: it is also the case that rng as commercial product is a very questionable biz proposition. it takes quite a bit of 'adulthood' to even get to a place where you actually benefit from a 1000 $ rng. for instance, microshit victims dun really win anyffin from using whatever external rng.
trinque: yep, I was just reflecting on the exact same over here.
trinque: there's really no move but to get wealth in this circumstance, and once had, why do anything but keep it
verisimilitude: People get upset with me when I tell them my ``dream job'' is getting money for doing nothing.
trinque: verisimilitude: how good do you look with a wig on?
verisimilitude: The point of this is I refuse to dream of working for someone else.
trinque: I'm sure this macroexpands to "I have control of my time"
trinque this also, and is happy to park it in "middle class derp" status to achieve
trinque: possible enough to take back one's time if lifestyle doesn't inflate to income
verisimilitude: I've plenty of things I do, and want to do, but I'd prefer to get money merely for existing.
trinque: verisimilitude: please accept this very long string of numbers as a gift, 1,000,000,000,000,000,000
trinque: you may spend it wherever you wish
verisimilitude: The very notion of a ``dream job'' is that people should aspire for such.
trinque: "all available work is a scam" is pretty defensible
verisimilitude: No corresponding communist propaganda comes to mind, but I'd wager it exists.
verisimilitude: I now remember back when I wanted to be a college professor, before I realized what that truly meant.
verisimilitude: It's a shame I don't know Tarver's email address, so I might bother him.
verisimilitude: Oh, so it was the ``Which part of the military do you want to die in?'' flavour?