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verisimilitude: I once knew a fellow who faked his death; I correctly figured it was to find dissent, and so I held mine insults, and he turned up days later.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-26 22:08:20 asciilifeform: (unless disinfo..)
asciilifeform: 'un polaco de 41 años, identificado con los apellidos Mircea Popescu, quien estaba en el país como turista...'
asciilifeform: died a polack, eh.
asciilifeform supposes this was result of whatever ??? he used instead of a passport
asciilifeform familiar with chinese 'wait and the corpse of your enemy will float by' but did not expect so literally
asciilifeform: i wonder how long would've taken to notice if a lurker had not written to me with earlier link.
asciilifeform: земля стекловатой.
lobbes: yeah, I saw both those articles a few days back; surreal (indeed, he certainly will not 'come back' nao)
lobbes: personally, he was one of the several few in my life that gave me the tools to clean the shit from my eyes. The other 99% on this planet just keep flinging it.
lobbes: In anycase, tomorrow is for the living. All I care about these days is http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-19#1040103
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-19 12:08:31 signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-18#1040037 << highest priority project should be ownership of one's time.
lobbes just got back from 14 hour marathon drive. will bbl
thimbronion: hard to believe
gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1040948 << Curtis Yarvin served this role for me. I ultimately did not agree with most of his views, but he helped me by exposing the propaganda of others.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-27 02:22:37 lobbes: personally, he was one of the several few in my life that gave me the tools to clean the shit from my eyes. The other 99% on this planet just keep flinging it.
gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1040941 << Mircea and Popescu are both common names in Romania. it might not be the same person.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-27 00:24:25 asciilifeform: 'un polaco de 41 años, identificado con los apellidos Mircea Popescu, quien estaba en el país como turista...'
asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: i admit that i will not be greatly astonished if he were to turn up alive at some point. like just about errything else he had done in life, this could readily be another elaborate, heavily intellectualized ego-pumping scam.
asciilifeform: i also admit that i'ma be a little disappointed if mp stays dead; was hoping to see him universally exposed, lowered, humiliated, and eventually dead of vodka, eltsin-style.
asciilifeform: wb shinohai
shinohai: heya asciilifeform
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-27 10:05:17 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: i admit that i will not be greatly astonished if he were to turn up alive at some point. like just about errything else he had done in life, this could readily be another elaborate, heavily intellectualized ego-pumping scam.
asciilifeform: shinohai: #2, turns out, also, if less entertaining one
shinohai: Guess the only one from his ardent knob-polishers we're gonna see, upon review of logs
shinohai: That piece just pure cringe.
asciilifeform: shinohai: asciilifeform's grandfather liked to say 'in the great birdlessness, my arse is a nightingale'. there's a demand for fuhrers, and folx will take what's on offer.
snsabot: (trilema) 2013-12-22 asciilifeform: 'what people “want” is a function of what they learn is available. e.g., do Americans want three-ring binders, and Europeans four-ring binders? or do they want binders and take whatever number of holes they come with? or do they want something that can help them organize their papers and take whatever is available? or do they really want a less cluttered office and ease of storage and retrieval of the infor
shinohai: I prefer to remember the teaching MP, disassociated from the coke-addled Stalin of later years.
snsabot: Logged on 2020-02-04 22:14:39 asciilifeform: or, for that matter, his (admitted!) cocaine. imho still shows typical effects, even tho supposedly quit.
thimbronion: asciilifeform: do you have a conveniently shareable archive of trilema?
asciilifeform: thimbronion: i expect to some time today (loox like several folx had same thought, so his www a bit loaded)
thimbronion: asciilifeform: I will mirror if you share it.
shinohai: Rather interesting last post on Trilema says "Anyways, tomorrow we're going to the beach .... What's the worst that could come of it ?"
shinohai: You'd be surprised!
asciilifeform: shinohai: i tuned out of mp & whores 100%, ~yr ago, and was rather surprised to discover that they were even as recently as last wk still wanking about rewriting 'v'; diana spent yr fighting gnat; endlessly running in circles...
shinohai: What was there to fight in gnat?
asciilifeform: shinohai: plenty. (e.g. this took asciilifeform 3y from draft to releasable..)
asciilifeform: shinohai: i did not read whole chronicle, but did see that diana did not read (or believe) log where asciilifeform described 'finalization dun work', and went and bashed head
shinohai: No, I mean what exactly was Diana fighting?
shinohai: ah kk
asciilifeform: shinohai: if yer curious re specifics, read 'from horse's mouth'
shinohai: I'm about as interested in reading O as I am drivel from other former #t troglodytes.
shinohai: Your blog, at least, might provide me with some education whenever I can pick ffa back up.
asciilifeform: shinohai: diana is, by my lights, one of the numerous 'plodders' who go from kindergarten to doctorate with perfect marks without skipping a beat but also without ever so much as risking to emit an original thought
asciilifeform: the system optimizes for'em: obedient meatrobots.
asciilifeform: (and, contrary to stereotype, not somehow limited to asia)
asciilifeform: such folx have precisely 1 approach to solving technical problems; and this approach is amply illustrated on diana's www
asciilifeform: 'diligently try all 9000 possibilities'
asciilifeform: managerial types luvv these to death, they reliably produce 'steady labour' flavour that satisfies performance metrics, whether bureaucratic (reich orgs incl. usg) or sadomasochistic (mp's)
shinohai: Can't argue with that.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1040953 << 'uncle' al schwartz for asciilifeform -- to the extent there was an analogous 'role'. ( asciilifeform did not need so much an ideological 'leading out', because knew from childhood that 'civilized world' was rotten to the core)
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-27 06:12:16 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1040948 << Curtis Yarvin served this role for me. I ultimately did not agree with most of his views, but he helped me by exposing the propaganda of others.
asciilifeform: pretty sure he's dead, btw. (tho never found obit.) his www, after >decade of inactivity, finally vanished earlier this yr
asciilifeform: reminds me, time to stand up a mirror.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1040949 << what incidentally have you been up to these days, lobbes ?
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-27 02:22:51 lobbes: In anycase, tomorrow is for the living. All I care about these days is http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-19#1040103
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-26 18:39:26 thimbronion: Evidently you gotta daisychain?
asciilifeform: signpost: possibly not out; appears to work presently
asciilifeform: try connecting to your noad
signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-26#1040915 << yes, whole point is to approximate sane p2p. let's not waste more time on this server. I'll look for another, encourage others to do same.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-26 19:58:50 asciilifeform: cuz i aint interested in incatronics. (and suspect other folx similarly uninterested.)
asciilifeform: 11:29 -!- irc.dulap.xyz irc.dulap.xyz 0 (Unknown Location)
asciilifeform: 11:29 -!- irc.problematic.site irc.dulap.xyz 1 Trinque's ArseNet Node
asciilifeform: 11:29 -!- irc.alethepedia.com irc.problematic.site 2 foobar
asciilifeform: 11:29 -!- gregory.nyssa irc.alethepedia.com 3 1
asciilifeform: 11:29 -!- * End of /LINKS list.
asciilifeform: ^ my current output for '/links'
asciilifeform: i dun see signpost in '#' tho, atm
signpost: mine is up, and has no links
signpost: so I assume I lost in w/e cycle-breaking occurred
asciilifeform: oh hm then even the stats table thing is broken in this one?
signpost: but happy to look at it a bit more before trashing.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-26 22:08:15 asciilifeform: meanwhile, apparently: RIP mp ?
signpost: not the first alcoholic death-spiral I've seen.
asciilifeform: signpost: fwiw i've been digging through irctrons; so far not found a visibly cleaner one
asciilifeform: signpost: i recall the story with your old commander
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 00:02:42 verisimilitude: I once knew a fellow who faked his death; I correctly figured it was to find dissent, and so I held mine insults, and he turned up days later.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 02:22:37 lobbes: personally, he was one of the several few in my life that gave me the tools to clean the shit from my eyes. The other 99% on this planet just keep flinging it.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-01-06 22:49:04 asciilifeform: if only that e.g. trinque read caesar etc
signpost: daddy doesn't need to tell you to live.
signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1040953 << #t provided an arena within which to sharpen one's thinking, yes, but it wasn't a single person providing all the sparring.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 06:12:16 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1040948 << Curtis Yarvin served this role for me. I ultimately did not agree with most of his views, but he helped me by exposing the propaganda of others.
signpost: to revive the *forum* is the entirety of my interest in p2p2
signpost: *p2p
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1041026 << Understand, it wasn't about "telling me to live" it was about "convincing me that I was, in fact, NOT living". There is a marked difference, imo
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 11:34:21 signpost: daddy doesn't need to tell you to live.
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1041029 << Also understand, I'm certainly not arguing that it was *only* MP giving me tools to clean the shit. Hence, this is why I said he was one of *several few* that gave me the tools; most of the others were also in #t includ. trinque, asciilifeform, pankake, jurov, phf, and many others
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 11:38:01 signpost: to revive the *forum* is the entirety of my interest in p2p2
lobbes: indeed the revival of the p2p forum where folx are -verifiable as real people- is key
lobbes: actually, it was pankkake that originally pulled me out of the tardstalk forums with his own hand.
lobbes: I'm a thankful guy towards people that help me, so sue me lol
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1040997 << for the last 8 months I've just been working at saltmine, and then using ~all remaining energy on my vidya game: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-04-24#1034621
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 11:26:13 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1040949 << what incidentally have you been up to these days, lobbes ?
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-04-24 14:24:18 lobbes: has been working on building a vidya game since November with a couple of longtime friends in meatwot. Needs to catch up on #a logs since it appears some interesting work has been going on
signpost begrudges no one his gratitude.
asciilifeform: lobbes: oh neato -- is this item published ?
lobbes: a few months ago, after a round of playtesting, I realized that original prototype was simply not fun
lobbes: so, I ended up having to start from scratch (again). I'm on the third prototype now (now it is no longer a FTL clone at all, really)
lobbes: however, I managed to get a shitton more of playtesting done on this latest one, and it is WAY more fun, in terms of the core gameplay
lobbes: so, the 'vertical slice' of the game is done. Now I just need to build it out
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1041043 << It will be published on Steam once complete
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 12:05:28 asciilifeform: lobbes: oh neato -- is this item published ?
lobbes: everyone reading these logs can have lifetime free copies. I only ask that if someone plays it and finds it enjoyable, that they tell others
lobbes: my goal is to learn the process of indie game dev, and then learn how to shit out a ton of "2d graphic" games over the next ten years.
lobbes: Along with investing in real estate. I want to get to that point where I can finally escape the fuckin' saltmines (I swear, I just can't stand it any longer lol)
lobbes: if I can get enough "passive income" going, then maybe I can finally be at a point to do things that matter with my time. But, one thing at a time I suppose
lobbes bbl
signpost: building a company, matters. best of luck with it.
signpost is in an interlude between selling one and farting up another.
verisimilitude: I find CHIP-8 is good for testing pure gameplay ideas, given it's simple enough to encompass it, which I figure isn't the case for this idea.
verisimilitude: My grammar was horrible there, I notice.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1041053 << can't speak for other folx, but personally i'm no closer to this than 20y ago. ( and asciilifeform's gullibility in falling in w/ folx with world's least lucrative biz ideas prolly not helped, lol )
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 12:10:45 lobbes: if I can get enough "passive income" going, then maybe I can finally be at a point to do things that matter with my time. But, one thing at a time I suppose
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-01-06 22:56:33 asciilifeform: trinque: re 'profit centers', asciilifeform was cured of this notion when rubbed face 1st into e.g. 'no, there is not market for uncensored undns'd hosting', 'no, there aint a silent majority yearning for nonwhitened trng', etc
dulapbot: Logged on 2020-08-20 18:53:11 asciilifeform: thing could run off 2 AA cells in fact.
dulapbot: Logged on 2020-08-20 19:16:49 asciilifeform: Aerthean: related reading. it is ~very~ difficult to profit by 'actually Do Right Thing' in engineering, vs. 'convincingly pretend to Do Right Thing' , 'i can't believe it's not butter!' atrocities.
dulapbot: Logged on 2020-08-20 19:26:54 asciilifeform: the more general idea was discussed in the logs many times. it is why you can't buy a sane, open cpu. there is simply no way to pay for what the fabrication would cost. esp. if you refuse to go along with the vendor's demands to use their NDA'd cell libs & mswin shitwares.
verisimilitude: It was disconcerting to read an expert discussing his RNG setup; had I not known better, whitening would've seemed fine. After all, it gives the RNG output even when it's not ready, which he needs as a professional who knows what he's doing.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i presume you're aware of the biological process that gives us flightless birds
asciilifeform: (flight -- 'expensive', can't get too fat, need very light frame, muscle)
asciilifeform: dodo is well-known, but there's an equally entertaining example of a flightless sparrow where entire species was wiped out by one lighthouse keeper's cat
asciilifeform: point being, 'it seems fine' is a++ great until it aint.
verisimilitude: Of course.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: incidentally not every such 'expert' is a credentialled imbecile; some, e.g. schneier, cash fat usg cheques
verisimilitude: I get similar when discussing programming without text, or the idiocy of using character streams to represent text, but already know I can expect to realize negative income through them.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1041036 << i gotta bite here : forum ~presently exists~, even if made from field telephone wire! as do the verifiable identities! what ~doesn't~ exist, and aint coming back, is the old drug.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 12:01:19 lobbes: indeed the revival of the p2p forum where folx are -verifiable as real people- is key
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-02-04 13:46:08 asciilifeform: mp was talented mountebank, a la barnum, and in #t maintained an addictive, to many folx, atmosphere of 'движуха' (untranslatable, but roughly 'errything in motion!!', 'happening!')
asciilifeform: imho this 'dope' was ~harmful~ and i've no interest in supplying it even if knew how
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-02-04 13:50:49 asciilifeform: in asciilifeform's cosmography, движуха is ~harmful~. like cocaine. it is ~not~ ultimately a win, for folx to sit around 'tripping' while suffering the illusion of thinking.
asciilifeform: the only thing folx build, ultimately, when doing this dope, is sand castles.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-18 19:34:34 asciilifeform: observe how quickly e.g. bvt lost interest in e.g. ffa when mp took off his mask
verisimilitude: It's better to suffer than to be deluded; I'm doing it right now.
verisimilitude: I remember youth, and thinking I'd rather be learned than happy; well, I'm certainly not happy.
verisimilitude: I don't regret it, though.
verisimilitude: I wasn't aware he was using cocaine, but it does make sense.
asciilifeform: revisiting upstack: i can think of an a++ reason for mp to have faked his drowning : let's suppose he wanted to get off the net, and out of the obsessive-compulsive labours of posting a photo of erry cake he eats with 100kB+ of drivel to go with same ; and to wind up the s.mg nonsense, etc -- but somewhow without suffering the
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 06:15:07 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1040941 << Mircea and Popescu are both common names in Romania. it might not be the same person.
asciilifeform: ego wound (term of art) from such an exit.
signpost: suffering is one motivation algo, but I don't use it.
signpost perfectly fucking content, still works.
signpost: asciilifeform: could be, but the guy didn't look healthy in pics recently
signpost: doesn't really change much either way.
asciilifeform: ah hm, i have not paid attention, will admit
asciilifeform: signpost: correct, imho; in asciilifeform's head mp was filed under 'vodka retired' for a while. since the phf episode, really
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-26 16:55:18 whaack: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-26#1040895 << tbh this sounds awful, i really hope my problem doesn't come to this
signpost wonders if whaack's problem is with left hand, given iirc he plays guitar.
signpost: my left wrist gives me some trouble when I've been doing too much of both
asciilifeform ftr does not know whether he has not contracted 'rsi' because has proper gear; or because not biologically susceptible; or simply because only enters at most 2-3kB of text per diem
verisimilitude: Mine issue is being unable to sit and type all damn day without feeling it afterwards.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: feeling in which organ(s) ?
verisimilitude: The hands and arms are where I feel it.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: chording kbd not helped?
verisimilitude: I can't type all day with it.
verisimilitude: It may have.
asciilifeform: i dun think i've ever tried to 'type all day'
verisimilitude: I'll be collecting my thoughts into an article soon.
asciilifeform: walk all day -- yes
asciilifeform: but 'type all day' is a proposition imho similar to 'juggle all day'. you aint built for it.
verisimilitude: I can talk all day, however.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: iirc you were testing a mechanized dictation thing? how did that go?
verisimilitude: I haven't compiled it yet.
verisimilitude: I still need to audit it.
whaack: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1041096 < I type at roughly 100-120wpm with 100% accuracy (i.e. time calculation includes time spent fixing typos.) as per challenges on https://play.typeracer.com/ . I can't imagine I'm going to get anywhere close to that with voice activation, maybe I could if I'm creating essays but most comands I issue are navigating terminals
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-27 13:22:58 verisimilitude: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-26#1040900 How is it terrible?
whaack: I guess the idea of having to relearn a skill I've developed since early childhood is just daunting
whaack: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1041098 << My left hand is hurting more atm, but the overall problem is almost even in both hands. When I first described the problem to my physiotherapist his intuition was that the root of my problem may be in my neck due to the symmetry of the situation. After more questions and tests he diagnosed that I have two simultaneous problems with
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-27 13:25:31 signpost: wonders if whaack's problem is with left hand, given iirc he plays guitar.
whaack: the radial, median, and ulnar nerves, that are probably somehow feeding into each other
whaack: signpost: The trauma that triggered the rsi episode that has now been going on for about 2 months was a pull off on the guitar with my pinky
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 12:16:31 signpost: building a company, matters. best of luck with it.
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1041059 << I'm prepared (even expecting) to fail, at least at first. And if I'm going down anyway, then I'd rather go down swinging
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 12:55:47 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1041053 << can't speak for other folx, but personally i'm no closer to this than 20y ago. ( and asciilifeform's gullibility in falling in w/ folx with world's least lucrative biz ideas prolly not helped, lol )
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1041075 << I was just being pedantic in that, in the old #t and #b-a models, you had to verify w/ pgp key to speak (albeit not 'all the time'). Granted, in this current stopgap we can still pass pgp messages around to verify, but it could be 'better' I guess.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 13:11:13 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1041036 << i gotta bite here : forum ~presently exists~, even if made from field telephone wire! as do the verifiable identities! what ~doesn't~ exist, and aint coming back, is the old drug.
whaack: it was very distinctive and instead of stopping at that first point of pain i kept playing for another 15 minutes because I was teaching someone the basics of the guitar
whaack: and I may have done a lot of harm during that window
lobbes: but then again, re: that thread I am prolly behind the times in my log reading.
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1041129 << I have done this way too many times to count (continuing playing after pain, etc.). That small window of time always ends up fucking my wrist up for days
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 15:05:57 whaack: and I may have done a lot of harm during that window
lobbes: whaack: dumb question, but do you excercise your arms/wrists everyday? I was having chronic pain in my hands and wrists about a year ago, but then I started using these ['indian training clubs'][http://www.jumpusa.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/medium/indianclub2_med.jpg] everyday and I haven't felt such pain in roughly 8 months.
asciilifeform: lobbes: link then text
lobbes: asciilifeform: I need to make this a sticky note on my desk or somesuch. I can never remember
whaack: signpost: this video contains the series of exercises recommended by the doctor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv_EJV8q2E0 . The guy in the video uses a good prop to show how these stretches tense and release the nerve "cables." Interesting bit starts at around the 1min mark. These exercises seem to be giving some relief
whaack: lobbes: man I wish it were just days...
whaack: (rather than weeks, months)
lobbes: damn, that sounds horrid indeed
whaack: I also was perscribed doing pronation, supination etc. exercises with a hammer (same idea as device you linked, weight is skewed to 1 side)
whaack: atm the pain is very slight and 99% of the time it is completely bearable, I'm just worried that I am developing (or have already developed) permanent irreversible dammage
lobbes: at least for my tendonitis, strenghtening my various forearm muscles (specifically the "extensor carpi" whatevers) is what helped me. Plus you get all that blood flowing. Could be different for rsi though, I have nfi really
whaack: rsi is an umbrella term that I believe includes tendonitis
gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1040985 << I would have been one of these people, had I not encountered strong anti-Nerd bullying, incl. from my own parents.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-27 10:51:40 asciilifeform: shinohai: diana is, by my lights, one of the numerous 'plodders' who go from kindergarten to doctorate with perfect marks without skipping a beat but also without ever so much as risking to emit an original thought
gregorynyssa: however, I noticed that ~all "plotters" that I have met have been supporters of Consequentialist ethics, and anti-Authorialism, both of which I have continually opposed.
gregorynyssa: anti-Authorialism = people do not understand their own thoughts and emotions, and need others to "read" them.
gregorynyssa: correction: "plodders"
gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1041039 << any experience with Unity or Unreal? I was thinking of trying the latter.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-27 12:05:03 lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1040997 << for the last 8 months I've just been working at saltmine, and then using ~all remaining energy on my vidya game: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-04-24#1034621
BingoBoingo: Fuck, I sink into girl who makes me feel loved as MP described it, and he's gone
BingoBoingo: If it wasn't for him I would have never known it was love
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: see thread.
BingoBoingo: And if MP wouldn't have burnt down whatever was left of the Republic as he did, I would have never known living as I have had the freedom to know it this last year
BingoBoingo reading thread
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: per my lights, mp was 2 d00dz, 1 -- was my friend, and died in '17. the other, the alcoholic wreck, about whom $thread.
BingoBoingo: I understand the bifurcation being the same person. Bitch that loved me suggested I go to therapy,. Her friend recommended to me an ld school psychonalyst. That therapist really fucked me up. That doesn't mean the bitch doesn't love me.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this split is a well-known scourge of friends, relatives of brain damage patients.
BingoBoingo: But was it a true split?
BingoBoingo: The world started getting very shitty in 2015
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as i see it, absolutely nothing substantial has changed b/w '15 and nao
BingoBoingo: Everyone discounted that warning that South Park season 19 was
BingoBoingo: Everything substantial in the meatware of strangers encountered after 2015 changed
asciilifeform: i confess, dun see it
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-27 17:46:03 BingoBoingo: Fuck, I sink into girl who makes me feel loved as MP described it, and he's gone
BingoBoingo: thimbronion: You smoke cigarettes?
thimbronion: BingoBoingo: not anymore.
BingoBoingo: I still do
thimbronion: BingoBoingo: my health is too shit to indulge.
BingoBoingo: And this girl loves nothing more than sucking my dick while I blog/tiktok/livestream
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you ever finished that crate asciilifeform smuggled in?
BingoBoingo: and smoke
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform Unfortunately
asciilifeform: time for anuther 1 eh
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform Been time for a while
BingoBoingo: and thestringpuller: I hope the worms eat you for being absent every single year the Republic could have used you, 2017-2020 and you chose scummy absence
thimbronion: BingoBoingo: sounds lovely.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: we could've used him?! (lol, for what?)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform We can't know because he chose absence
BingoBoingo: thimbronion The loveliest
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: more worrisome imho is the continued awol of jurov (who still has the tbf piggy and www)
asciilifeform: !q seen-anywhere jurov
snsabot: jurov last seen in #asciilifeform on 2021-05-17 08:03:15: slackware?
BingoBoingo: AWOL of jurov is worrisome, but... He was seen in May
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: speaking of modern era, i rec to prep a box for peering w/ dulapnet. at some unspecified time undead-fleanode will croak.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-15 22:06:55 asciilifeform: 205.134.172.3:6667
shinohai: BingoBoingo: do you hope worms eat me as well? xD
asciilifeform: worms eat errybody.
asciilifeform: (aside from, perhaps, folx who manage to drown..)
BingoBoingo was planning next vacation with 50/50 chance of returning as same person....
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: to where will go ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Cabo Polonio
BingoBoingo: I plan to take a bunch of Ketamine, LSD, and adivinar which rocks probably killed the most ships between 1500-1600
asciilifeform: ah neato
asciilifeform: trinque iirc once did sumthing similar
asciilifeform: achived, iirc, satori.
asciilifeform: *achieved
BingoBoingo: Next step is getting a boat and seeing how the water moves around killer rocks
BingoBoingo: to be followed by maybe getting some petroleum people to ultrasound the seafloor in select locations like it is a pregnant bitch's nelly
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not sure i get it -- didja devise some new means of divination re where to sink the drill ?
BingoBoingo: But between getting a boat and checking out the pregnant seafloor, maybe I can sell the job to some sucker. Mark Twain style
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not where to drill, where to scoop the sand and mud
BingoBoingo: Many ships loaded with Inca riches never made it to Spain. Some may have died hugging the coast too much
BingoBoingo: I want that Billion dollar/tens of BTC haul
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: coast of brazil is actually a good place. but would have to be robotic vehicle, their navy actually patrols and shoots would-be prospectors and especially archaeologists (they have a party-line re history and dun want to rewrite)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform lol - Had this discussion already
BingoBoingo: With strangers from livestream and withnavy people
asciilifeform: a? and what did they say?
BingoBoingo: Random people from livestream said "They won't let you" Prefectura said: Here's the forms
asciilifeform: these aint necessarily in contradiction tho
asciilifeform: at any rate, problem is virtually never 'the forms'
BingoBoingo: This is Uruguay, the problems are always the tramites
BingoBoingo: Including for the old bitch who lives on the first floor of my building
BingoBoingo: whose late husband also treasure hunted
BingoBoingo: And yes, brasil navy shoots so much
snsabot: (trilema) 2015-07-08 williamdunne: What happened to that German socialist girl, she ever come back to continue her derping?
asciilifeform: (and before anyone asks, yes, from memory, lol)
thimbronion: asciilifeform: ty!
thimbronion: Was searching for this line: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2015-05-19#1138259. Evidently will *not* be here.
snsabot: (trilema) 2015-05-19 mircea_popescu: justJanne don't die over b-a hon. it's eternal, will be here when you're 69, too.
thimbronion: Although I remembered it as "we'll be here." I suspect 99% of my memories of the logs are wrong in a similar way.
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1041149 << aha. Yeah, the entirety of the game so far has been in Unity. I actually really like the program (it reminds me very much of my old days using Macromedia Flash 5)
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-27 17:12:08 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1041039 << any experience with Unity or Unreal? I was thinking of trying the latter.
lobbes: If I learned anything from my #t/#b-a days, it is that I am a very shitty programmer/engineer, but I also have ~2 decades of "hack and slash, spaghetti coding" under my belt. Unity is perfect for me, honestly.
lobbes: and the beauty of video games, is that even if I write shitty coad, no one is going to die or lose their fortune, etc.
thestringpuller: lobbes: I wish Unity scaled. Like they started building Rust in unity in 2013, but now it's so tightly coupled to the engine it can't be moved out. There is another engine Facepunch made, but Rust likely won't ever be ported.
lobbes: thestringpuller: otoh, if I get to the point where I have scaling problems I will be a happy man indeed
asciilifeform: meanwhile, upstack : turns out mp's www weighed only ~8G. approx. same as mine.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-27 10:33:07 thimbronion: asciilifeform: do you have a conveniently shareable archive of trilema?
asciilifeform: i'ma put tarball up, but not wwwistic crawlable dir until the original falls down (supposing ever does -- e.g. naggum's still up!), the corpse aint paying me to put up w/ the bandwidth load that hosting crawlable copy of that junkyard entails
shinohai: tyvm asciilifeform
asciilifeform pictures the lenin mausoleum the chix are perhaps building
asciilifeform: ook, thimbronion , shinohai , and whoever else wants : http://dulap.xyz/pub/mirrors/misc/trilema.com.tar.gz ; sha512:44b9e7137637bae71ba5cb5902b1c576642f2e88b0333d167d6b0ac294c5ef6a2107967c179dcc290c5724b72aa63b9e8f9507ea3a2900723a5a97ad1077f1ce .
asciilifeform: it is conceivable that something did not make it in there, tho the www was not in any obv. way boobytrapped or bw-throttled or any similar.
asciilifeform: prolly if someone is troo archaeologist, oughta grab the thing w/ own hands while it remains grabbable.
asciilifeform: (ftr my copy was made via 'wget -e robots=off -r --mirror --page-requisites --convert-links --span-hosts --domains trilema.com http://trilema.com' .)
asciilifeform thought of making a slimmer tarball w/out the kilometre of avi/jpg, but can't be arsed, and besides, 'из песни слова не выкинешь'(tm)
lobbes: ty asciilifeform. I've got a curl honed on it now, and will probably mirror on my own server once it downloads
thimbronion: asciilifeform: downloading, ty.
shinohai: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1041241 <<< Thank you, Comrade. I shall seize this and redistribute.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-27 21:37:09 asciilifeform: ook, thimbronion , shinohai , and whoever else wants : http://dulap.xyz/pub/mirrors/misc/trilema.com.tar.gz ; sha512:44b9e7137637bae71ba5cb5902b1c576642f2e88b0333d167d6b0ac294c5ef6a2107967c179dcc290c5724b72aa63b9e8f9507ea3a2900723a5a97ad1077f1ce .
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