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(pest) asciilifeform: (to prolly nobody's surprise. they're both working for the reich and did a++ work)
(pest) asciilifeform: ( ditto e.g. tax in reich, and in most other respects -- similar )
(pest) asciilifeform: situation in reich re dope reminiscent somewhat of '1984', where lumpens & 'inner party' are similarly free to do whatever they like, only the workhorse 'middle' is actually under panopticon
(pest) asciilifeform: hm, thought fentanyl is how reich pest-controls (closes eyes on cheap import from cn, then powder mixed into traditional dopes for a quick kill)
(pest) asciilifeform: ... 2) to be dropped as ballast when reich collapse turns a notch and desperate dampening is needed.
(pest) asciilifeform: ( ftr per asciilifeform's model, goxen are created (by gifting some 'favoured son' 8fig of printola, uplifting him from 2nd lieutenant at $hedgefund lizard kindergarten to 'captain of industry'(tm)) for 1) cool down exchrate by minting papercoin, erryday 2) to be dropped as ballast when reich collapse turns a notch and des
(pest) asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-11-15#1016282 << to clarify further -- pestron user ~can~ sync own clock from whatever reich service if he wants; but thing designed to operate without this assumption. (incidentally: possible useful feature would be to alert operator if his clock is wildly out of sync with incoming timesta
(pest) jonsykkel[busybot]: true theres no "hackings" etc in reich assets
(pest) asciilifeform: this -- 'not negotiable', is what the reich is ~about~, fundamentally.
(pest) asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-11-08#1015784 << there are waves, but observe that btc-style crashes 'not permitted' -- $mil house in reich absolutely never turns into $100k house (unless burns down)
(pest) asciilifeform: near as asciilifeform can tell, the ~actual btc economy~ (i.e. what remains after subtracting the reich subsidiaries that demand passport etc. when trading anyffin for coin, so can report its 'sale' and the 'gain') is ~weaker~ today than in the days of the infamous pizza.
(pest) asciilifeform if knew how to instead invent recipe for folx to live on sunlight, and build house in parallel dimension away from reich -- would work on ~that~
(pest) asciilifeform: not that 'subject of reich' can't occasionally fork over bit of paper dough or btc to buy magick goodies phriend baked in basement. but the notion that 'get rich from this' is 'larp' and good, quick way to lose shirt
(pest) dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-03-15 asciilifeform: ... from reich pov, plebes having savings is a bug, similarly to resistive losses in electric cable. 'pieces of yacht that got diverted'
(pest) signpost[asciilifeform]: maybe globohomo has served its purpose and the reich's ready to embrace/extend 4chan mercantilism
(pest) dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-01-19 asciilifeform: 2. ... in exchange for ~fuffles~ (e.g. bags of fiat not immediately destined to be spent on durable necessities; plastic autos; titles to 'property' in the reich)
(pest) asciilifeform: ( at one time in what is nao the reich, there were actual bankers, who had to persuade sumbody to lend'em dough. and, i suppose, at the peripheries of the reich, these still exist )
(pest) asciilifeform: unpx: quantumism is part eternal grant racket perpetuum mobile, and part reich FUD gambit to move gullible folx off rsa.
(pest) dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-04-14 asciilifeform: crtdaydreams: read, when orig. posted. has 0 to do with 'in $n cycles', but w/ shor's algo & variants. on the entirely imaginary apparatus advertised as 'quantum computer' (originally a joke paper by r.feynman, nao a multi-$1e9 reich grantsmanship game, reminiscent of 'hot fusion')
(pest) bitbot[asciilifeform]: (asciilifeform) 2022-04-11 asciilifeform: mangol: in re the bigger picture. and not simply 'east expansion', but that reich rather obv. cannot survive 1) without continuing to get ru fuels & other minerals for ~phree 2) the continued existence of [http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-07#1083094][an alt-civi
(pest) asciilifeform: perhaps moar achievable than '1000y reichs' but only by a notch
(pest) dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-04-11 asciilifeform: mangol: in re the bigger picture. and not simply 'east expansion', but that reich rather obv. cannot survive 1) without continuing to get ru fuels & other minerals for ~phree 2) the continued existence of an alt-civilization
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: and not simple matter of 'they ordered' -- reich cannot operate w/out printolade; printer cannot operate w/out the 'kinetic' component of fiatola hegemony
(pest) asciilifeform: ( all current-day 'Official' goxen can be safely assumed to seekritly share a reserve piggy; this'd be the 'crown jewels' of their seekrit agreement with reich.gosplan, rather than whatever snoopings, tax collections, etc which moar or less erryone knows about at this pt)
(pest) asciilifeform: is how in '17 reich halted the 'explosive' rise of btc-usd exch rate -- by 'legalizing' goxism and placing it on central gosplan-style footing to (mostly) put a stop on uncontrolled 'bank runs' which might threaten demand for papercoin
(pest) dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-05-09 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-09#1100745 << may encourage verisimilitude to realize that it aint in fact run 'with money'. oligarchs aint oligarchs 'because have money', they are simply deputies of the reich (typically, tho not always, 'titled nobility') to whom freshly-printed dough is simply issued
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: copypaste: then mp decided to branch out into e.g. isp biz ( see logs re 'pizarro' ) , this blew up spectacularly, eventually touching off demise of mp's reich entirely
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-09-13#1113563 << some of the ~people~ still around ( tho mostly live here naodays rather than in #a.) regret to inform that mp's reich is kaput ( and yr+ before fuhrer himself kaput ) , see #t logs if interested.
(pest) bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2022-08-24 15:50:42 asciilifeform[4]: in 100% of these, the reich.'crime' aint 'ohnoez, wrote a proggy, and it was 'too kewl for skool'', but rather 'ohey, identifiable plebe with a nontrivial coin-denominated income stream, let's dekulakize pronto'
(pest) asciilifeform: in 100% of these, the reich.'crime' aint 'ohnoez, wrote a proggy, and it was 'too kewl for skool'', but rather 'ohey, identifiable plebe with a nontrivial coin-denominated income stream, let's dekulakize pronto'
(pest) asciilifeform: 'anyffin you want, with the right paperwork' is how reich worx. e.g. alex shulgin famously had a permit to bake & eat any dope; for cost of toyota anyone can buy permit for mg; etc
(pest) asciilifeform: most reichs, unsurprisingly, Officially mandate bureaucratic processing of the dead. so that, well, montrezors can't so easily stuff their fortunatos in a vacant berth in the wine cellar
(pest) bitbot[asciilifeform]: (asciilifeform) 2021-08-30 asciilifeform: little shithole orcistans, as i understand, live and breathe import taxation like reich breathes income taxation
(pest) asciilifeform: billymg: in south amer. defo. but maybe not in eureich, where can drive to e.g. berlin and load up on $goodies and truck'em back to $locale w/out customs wankage ?
(pest) asciilifeform: ... but if the inhabitants have to pay , on top of the ~50k$ they nominally cost (w/ eureich passport) a mob vig of 1k/mo, this wasn't obv. (and mp not mentioned)
(pest) asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-07-28#1010637 << if one believe mp, whole fucking globe is divided b/w these and the reich
(pest) asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-07-28#1010641 << per asciilifeform's notion, this'd be 1 of the main attractions of eureich -- e.g. timis to budapest, or maribor to vienna, is ~3hr drive, get yer microscope and drive it back home to yer 100K$ 'oligarch palace'
(pest) asciilifeform: ( if you have usa passport, yer a 'pidor' in so far as eureich is concerned, re banking in particular. asciilifeform 100% confirms, went on ro expedition in '17 concretely for fact-finding re subj )
(pest) asciilifeform: see e.g. recent thread re parts of eureich which allegedly have 0 tax on btc conversion, 0 'refugees', ~0 street chaos, etc
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: rather typical: in 'banana republics' (both with and 'without bananas') they dun have the fine-grained reich infrastructure for censoring twatter etc.; so fuhrer is stuck ordering the plug pulled
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: vex: in all reichs, only joak crypto is Officially allowed on Official radio of whatever sort.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: vex: asciilifeform's reich license study started and stopped with the discovery of the idjit 'crypto verboten' law
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: considering that whole point is 'aint receivable by folx w/out the key', not much point in reich license. instead, learn the req'd physics, you won't be building a uwb w/out pretty good grasp
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: 'high living'(tm) of eureich was powered by, initially, bleeding colonies; then by bleeding su, then, afterwards, its corpse
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: they get a reich-appointed gauleiter erry n yrs who follows the script. ditto germany, et al
(pest) asciilifeform: signpost: considering that current-day ru (as well as good % of east nato reich) still runs mostly on sov-era infrastructure -- indeed slow fall
(pest) asciilifeform: signpost: currently considering expedition to kakobreklastan. (supposedly among least polluted forgotten shitholes in eureich)
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-30 23:32:59 asciilifeform: d4: serpent was the original winner of the old 'aes' contest, was vetoed by reich supposedly because 'too expensive in hardware'.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: phf: good % of amerireich already 'in '90s' tho, was asciilifeform's observation
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform not visited erry reich shithole, but over here fresh food up 2.5x
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: 'please spare us, reich, we'll help intel sell 'xeons' at 4000% markup to academics'. didn't fly.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( today again backwater. reich 'financialization' did what the bombs could not... )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( evidently side effect of reich obsession with detecting smuggled pu )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( granted 'can't underestimate the stupidity of reich' but aint ~that~ stupid normally )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: vex: reich aint aboutta pop ~all~ of its bombs simult
(pest) asciilifeform: signpost: afaik not possible for 'honest man' to run a gox, given as it interfaces w/ reichbanks and will regularly receive 'national seekroority letters' and other decrees which require it to lie to users
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: seems like iso standard 'soon the fools will return to mother church, good old benjies that, even if printed in unlimited qty, can still buy mcfood and therefore the one troo currency of our 10,000 year reich 4evah'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: i.e. the thing which actually powers entire reich on all levels
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: at some pt in each such episode reich finishes hoovering up the 'poorly bolted down' coinz, and then static/slow + again until next pump
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: signpost: mengele has nuffin on reich 'care industry' aha
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: it's a reich outpost.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: il aint a 'world power', or even a 'has-been' like e.g. france; is simply a resort for reich soldiers to get laid during breaks from controlled-chaos wars in near east
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-13 14:59:25 asciilifeform: still not 100% understand precisely who and how disassembled 'immune system' of south afr; but difficult to see how it was anyffin other than an organized, deliberate demolition, with clear purpose of removing potential competitor of reich
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: last thing reich wanted was a living competitor with complete set of functioning collective balls, space + atomic programme, etc. late sovok happily joined in to cut off oxygen
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: that, imho is the main 'threat model' from which pov reich methodically sets fire to its periphery
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: key principal of reich is 'outside the reich walls, must be a cannibal zone always, never functioning industrial civ'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform still not 100% understand precisely who and how disassembled 'immune system' of south afr; but difficult to see how it was anyffin other than an organized, deliberate demolition, with clear purpose of removing potential competitor of reich
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: there's a popular notion that current angloreich is 'rudderless' but asciilifeform not subscribes.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-25 13:45:55 asciilifeform: in the most extreme case of this -- say you wanted to live in current reich today w/ same standard of living as e.g. engineer in 1900. would need to spend coupla $mil / y.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: product of current reich's 'soft, humane' variant of genocide
(pest) asciilifeform: reich strategy of 'print fiatola, buy btc, give away at xx% discount' worx a++ because the goxes provide an 'amplifier' (the leveraged positions) and not all that much print req'd
(pest) billymg: the reich likes to define "inflation" as "prices go up", obfuscating the "why" behind "prices go up"
(pest) bitbot: Logged on 2022-06-13 14:21:21 asciilifeform: lol, waterfall cranked 'to eleven'; reich ~really~ wants to discourage plebes from inflation-sheltering in btc, noshit
(pest) asciilifeform: lol, waterfall cranked 'to eleven'; reich ~really~ wants to discourage plebes from inflation-sheltering in btc, noshit
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-12#1106063 << same as over9000 redditus in west reich -- mooching off relatives
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-09 16:48:11 asciilifeform: finds the spandrells, moldbugs, etc. just as tiresomely morose as the reich goebbelses they are nominally 'in opposition' to
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: re 'orcs raping' -- ~100% of the anglo-'dissidents' detectably have a cosplay-1950s usg os installed in their skulls, w/ 'anticommunism' flavour and 'if only the other reich won' etc
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: he had coupla good pieces. but suffered from exactly this disease, d00d 'ripped into reich' while for many yrs pushing warmism, ranting against fission industry, + misc. dnc talking points. switched off like a fucking lamp when moved back to ru, nao pushing 'ru uber alles' etc w/ same enthusiasm
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform finds the spandrells, moldbugs, etc. just as tiresomely morose as the reich goebbelses they are nominally 'in opposition' to
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: i.e. go about thinking that their particular reich 'preserved democracy' in '30s , which then 'won ww2'
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 15:09:09 asciilifeform: PeterL: in 1900s, as inescapable consequence of industrialization planet3 was carved up into totalitarian reichs. these have gone and will continue to go by various names, issue costumes.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: 'not recommended', naturally, by the reich tools
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-01 13:38:53 asciilifeform: cgra: apparently irc has this subtle braindamage baked in at algo level. and is, evidently, why all the great irc nets eventually not only schismed, but acrimoniously schismed and turned into palace-reichs and eventually burn down
(pest) bitbot: (trilema) 2018-06-28 mod6: It's clearly stated on the Washington monument: ``Im reich ist vergnugen verboten!''
(pest) bitbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-03-25 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-25#1088262 << reich dispensed with all traditional pretenses of anyffin resembling objective stats gathering, publication of negatives, etc. -- not even necessarily because 'ohnoez, mega-death from dud vax' but, likely, simply to troll the noncompliant into tilt
(pest) asciilifeform: billymg: 'trolling' is arguably the point. i.e. point of 'pedereich' flag waving proudly is same as point of ye olde swastica in '30s ralleys
(pest) asciilifeform[billymg]: current reich plan seems to be to sacrifice the fat, lazy eureichtards
(pest) signpost[asciilifeform]: say the reich's playing a game of who crumbles first, and capitulates into USD.
(pest) signpost[asciilifeform]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-06-03#1006234 << the most entertaining (because I'm demented) future imho is the one where other reich-aligned fiats implode, absorbing some of the last few years' printola.
(pest) asciilifeform: afaik this transition already happening for many yrs, and about as orderly as anyffin in reich
(pest) asciilifeform: reich would in fact be ~richer~ if the folx 'employed' to stamp out this shite were instead collecting 'ubi' and smoking opium
(pest) asciilifeform: good % of nominal reich economy consists of these idiocies
(pest) asciilifeform: in east, good % of 'economy' is ultimately powered by reich contracts with terms measured in decades
(pest) asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-06-02#1006166 << to date, 100% of 'chaos in streets' in reich was of the controlled variety
(pest) asciilifeform: reich banks already de-facto nationalized in '08 episode
(pest) billymg: asciilifeform: doesn't it currently work the other way around? eureich wanting to tax california companies because "give us some of that internet money"
(pest) asciilifeform: will be interesting when they decree that e.g. frenchmen owe californistan tax 'because walked by a crapple store and partook of the glory of californireich' or the like
(pest) asciilifeform: reich often enuff pantomimes 'suppress' constructively. e.g. the '17--present 'encryption wank' (concerning wholly faux cryptosystems) to encourage use of various 'coloured phones' ; or the play-pretend 'war on dope' etc
(pest) awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: asciilifeform: in that case, the more it's suppressed in the reich, more evidence it's not compromised.
(pest) asciilifeform: ... on top of this, most btc, from pov of ru/cn, is in hands of foreign devils, and so often enuff seen there as 'instrument of reich'
(pest) asciilifeform: billymg: near as can tell, they closely resemble the anglo reich in addiction to printing press and 'monetary policy'
(pest) asciilifeform: would hasten to add tho, that what folx are jailed for in the reich aint contrabandism per se, but 'being rich without a license'. if yer conspicuously loaded and it was simply because found buried treasure, some article in penal code will be found for you.
(pest) asciilifeform: from one pov, is a hilarious twist on the usg newspeak 'know yer customer'. if you ~actually~ 'know yer customer`, yer moar or less impenetrable to reich.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( and see also the current reich's 'thinkers must not do!' variant. )
(pest) bitbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-03-24 asciilifeform: the # of 'unbelievers' is unknown, cuz reich aint set up in such a way that the captives' beliefs actually matter in any way
(pest) asciilifeform: even before end of ww2, was rather obv. that totalitarian reichs will colonize all of planet3, for objective techno-economic reasons
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-29#1104132 << fwiw asciilifeform used to (before ukrowank killed postal service b/w ru and reich) order b00x (incl. 'new old stock' obscure sov-era technical lit ) from 'ozon', and often enuff get'em within week, somehow. for next to nuffin.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: if a scum knifes, shoots, an actual person, beat cop will fill out a form and fughet about it; if reverse -- manhunt, 'trayvon'(tm), media circus, show trials. because, elementarily, crime against the reich per se, its monopoly.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: iirc BingoBoingo had a similar misadventure back in reich.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: asciilifeform's upstack observation is that 'postalist', like last decade's 'terrorist' or 19th c 'anarchist' figure in fact serves, whether wants to or not, and is cultivated by, the reich. when machinegun costs 100k for whitebread aficionado, mr.lipstick will still find one, gestapo will give him a working and freshly oiled one. because how else make the sheep bleat 'plz neuter us', how else justify a $trillion poli
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: is why their relative scales differ in diff. parts of reich
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: reich however also has an interest in occasionally terrorizing inhabitants of 'green zones'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: we already have authoritarian reich, the above is a feature of advanced model of same.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: so as 'burghers' flee from where reich is weak to where strong.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: is mistake to suppose that center wants order in ~entire~ reich.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: deliberately cultured unofficial enforcers of 'high class real estate' prices (i.e. out of blast radius) and other reich programmes.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: from 'actuarial' pov, an immortal living in a magically unchanged current-day reich would be killed by e.g. police a dozen times before ever by 'postal'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-19#1102980 << basics -- 100% fact afaik, and well-known errywhere outside of angloreich
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-17 14:44:23 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: difficult to object to this, asciilifeform a++ in favour of over9000x moar of this behaviour, what else could possibly stand a chance of curing ru, cn, et al from reich shitware
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: all reichs are '1000 yr' until not.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: hence asciilifeform's predilection for 'unsexy' names. 'pest', not 'reich remover', etc
(asciilifeform) phf: i'm talking specifically about "out of reach of reich"
(asciilifeform) phf: "out of reach of reich!"
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-09 13:14:02 asciilifeform: reich succeeded in jacking up btc-usd rate by flooding goxmarket w/ papercoin; after which exchrate stiffly correlated with all other reich paper.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-19 13:03:00 asciilifeform: the reason why various 2010s 'they'll ban goxes!' prognoses (incl. asciilifeform's) came to nuffin, is that turns out goxes are a very effective instrument of exchrate control, and therefore quite valuable to the reich.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-11#1101831 << this is interesting to think about again in light of recent years , where reich succeeded quite well at preventing 'to the moon'(tm)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ... but is precisely how it worx in the current reich.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: imho hilarious just how easy it is to spot reich assets -- the folx who echo $partyline entirely in unison, on whatever topic of the day, have seemingly bottomless bags of dough despite doing 0 actual biz, etc
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: whaack: recall how reich activated just about erry single asset in the 'tech' blabbersphere to parrot the 'wright is shitoshi!' thing
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-09 17:41:56 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-09#1100745 << may encourage verisimilitude to realize that it aint in fact run 'with money'. oligarchs aint oligarchs 'because have money', they are simply deputies of the reich (typically, tho not always, 'titled nobility') to whom freshly-printed dough is simply issued
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-09#1100745 << may encourage verisimilitude to realize that it aint in fact run 'with money'. oligarchs aint oligarchs 'because have money', they are simply deputies of the reich (typically, tho not always, 'titled nobility') to whom freshly-printed dough is simply issued
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-08-17 12:16:58 asciilifeform: billymg: reichs recur historically with regularity, and the moar centralizing the tech stack at the time, the bigger the reich -- and its eventual crater. imho entirely defensible statement of fact.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: billymg: it's a ratchet, in reich has only ever went up
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: reich succeeded in jacking up btc-usd rate by flooding goxmarket w/ papercoin; after which exchrate stiffly correlated with all other reich paper.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: this wk's dip has 0 to do w/ halving afaik. but rather with the sinking of reich paperola (reich interest rate increase)
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-11 08:30:30 asciilifeform: cgra: nobody's in fact abolishing cash, it's an 'unprincipled exception' quite necessary for the reich to function, and attempts to phase it out give similar result to hruschev's idiocy
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-26#1099092 << recall how and why the 'cash mexicans', who perhaps 90% of the 'asphalt and bricks' physical economy of reich, live ~entirely w/out tax. and largely unmolested. (not to be confused with 'tax protesters', however; i.e. idjit office plankton who try to weasel outta paying [http://logs.nosu
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-25 14:19:31 asciilifeform: is half of why reich even tolerates goxes -- to put brakes on the development of proper wotronic trade.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-19 13:03:00 asciilifeform: the reason why various 2010s 'they'll ban goxes!' prognoses (incl. asciilifeform's) came to nuffin, is that turns out goxes are a very effective instrument of exchrate control, and therefore quite valuable to the reich.
(asciilifeform) bitbot: Logged on 2022-02-03 01:45:54 asciilifeform: i.e. fulfilling reich dictat re damping the exchrate and disrupting organic hawala network formation.
(asciilifeform) billymg: http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-04-26#1099045 << the only thing with bitcoin that the reich works harder to suppress than the exchange rate is the emergence of true p2p markets
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregory2: observe that pestronics neither promise nor deliver on what asciilifeform suspects was primary appeal of urbitism, 'hey, wanna be a little fuhrer? a gauleiter in our reich? have some serfs under yer boot?' which is 1 reason why you won't be reading about pest on yc, nyt, shitcoin-magazine.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-24 13:02:09 asciilifeform: in particular, mr.mold's cosmography, where somehow reich is run by bureaucrats, and the thiels etc. are somehow rebelling and worthy of support, 'steve jobs zombie for fuhrer!', is imho laughably mendacious.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: d00d knows full well who actually runs the reich.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: in particular, mr.mold's cosmography, where somehow reich is run by bureaucrats, and the thiels etc. are somehow rebelling and worthy of support, 'steve jobs zombie for fuhrer!', is imho laughably mendacious.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: (trilema) 2017-06-02 asciilifeform: ( mr. mold advocated for 'patchwork states', which were -- best as anyone could tell -- a miraculous resurrection of 16th c. italian provinces, somehow balanced in mutual non-nukeability . but in 'urbit' he implemented a reich, with central control and total dependence on the 'palace' )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregory2: 'solved' by imposing yet-another centralized structure, quite like the reich.dns nonsense
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-24 12:26:27 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-24#1098630 << what's eureich-protestantism like these days ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( try sending from own hosted smtp box to just about anywhere in reich )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: shinohai: through asciilifeform's telescope loox moar like they got call from reich, 'hey yer pushing up exch rate, wtf'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform recalls kilometres of log where laboured to convince him that yes, reich is an organized entity, yes, organized subversion of software, of cryptography, of bitcoin, etc
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform fwiw does not believe that such thing possible in context of current reich , and all claims to the contrary -- believes to be cynically fraudulent
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: from asciilifeform's pov, the major problem in il is the 'soft gloves' and hijacking by reich prestige apparatus. if went 'gloves off' could readily civilize entire near east, east india style
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-11 13:49:28 asciilifeform: post-medieval 'merchant' nobility was sustainable only in context of expanding resource base. in shrinking/stagnant resource base, the old (hereditary nobility, serfs, etc) system is the stable one. so currently reich activity all with aim to reorg into the latter.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-19 11:55:07 signpost: re: reich, yep. screeching that "if we stopped eating, v-tronic distro (or whatever else) would come more quickly" adds 0.
(asciilifeform) signpost: re: reich, yep. screeching that "if we stopped eating, v-tronic distro (or whatever else) would come more quickly" adds 0.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: no one brought '1000yr reich' but asciilifeform, speaking only for self, dun miss it
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: phf: somehow, some folx still participating! tho no lords, no 1e3year-reich, etc.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( quite a feat, incidentally, in current reich, to find these 'baguettes', req's moar legwork than dough )
(asciilifeform) mangol: you said earlier that reich is built not to care about beliefs of inmates
(asciilifeform) mangol: the reich thinks their principles are the ones that matter, and they have the force to back up their claim
(asciilifeform) mangol: "sing reich's song" vs "be silent" is about whether or not you submit mentally
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: the actual personal choice available to most people isn't 'sit on arse or defeat reich with own 2 hands'. it's rather 'whether to sing 'horst wessel lied' or 'hatikva' while being gassed.'
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-11 11:59:36 asciilifeform: mangol: in re the bigger picture. and not simply 'east expansion', but that reich rather obv. cannot survive 1) without continuing to get ru fuels & other minerals for ~phree 2) the continued existence of an alt-civilization
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: there's a component of global gleichschaltung, but this aint against 'ohnoez, plebes could wakeup' but rather against threat of alt-civilizations which could eat the current reich.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-25 12:27:23 asciilifeform: 'martianization' plays on the reich plebe's appetite for 'rezistenta prin cultura' (aka wank). it takes all of 10min to convincingly forge the handwritten vax receipt. but no, gotta wank, gotta picket, walk straight into the 'martian' 'free speech zone' conveniently set up by the herders.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-25 12:21:43 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-25#1088262 << reich dispensed with all traditional pretenses of anyffin resembling objective stats gathering, publication of negatives, etc. -- not even necessarily because 'ohnoez, mega-death from dud vax' but, likely, simply to troll the noncompliant into tilt
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-25 12:38:16 asciilifeform: mangol: reich stratagem is to set up a perceived dichotomy where yer either 'with the program' or out in 'the lonesome deep space', outside the city walls, in company of 'martians did 9-11', etc. illiterates/schizos
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: e.g. destruction of family : entirely deliberate, and has a variety of wins from lizard pov -- force plebes to borrow from usurers; moar easily move'em around to where needed; bonsaikitten w/out family has fewer loyalties that might conflict w/ reich; and so forth
(asciilifeform) mangol: not every trumpenreich / putler sympathizer is a narcissistic socoipath yet. why not?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: crtdaydreams: read, when orig. posted. has 0 to do with 'in $n cycles', but w/ shor's algo & variants. on the entirely imaginary apparatus advertised as 'quantum computer' (originally a joke paper by r.feynman, nao a multi-$1e9 reich grantsmanship game, reminiscent of 'hot fusion')
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: reich 'solved' the 'labour problem' by outsourcing both the labour and the required 'pinkertons'. long ago.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: cn has 'civilized world' by both balls, and the only reason it aint obv. to some is that both cn brass and their reich muppets have 'biz as usual' deeply written into their firmware, and rarely depart from script
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: reich surrendered ~100% of its light industry to cn in '90s. no amt of pretenses from current muppets will change the result, simply comedy of generals, presidents, etc sitting in chinesium chairs, pushing chinesium buttons connected to barely-conductive cn-made cu-clad-al wiring, lol
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: it's a reich platform, mangol , and operated 100% w/ reich-printed moolah. the fundamental purpose aint changing, no matter who is appointed to 'own' it
(asciilifeform) mangol: none. what i'm interested in is how reich will carry out the damage control
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: aint difficult to imagine mexicans raiding ruins of north-a. reich for tangible goods, slaves, etc.; but 'mexican empire absorbs usa' is imho projection.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: hence e.g. north dakota aint on the road to becoming 'nuke power'. even if reich leaves the silos as-is
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: reich inheritances dunwork so well when 'taken home' by a bantustan
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-25 12:38:16 asciilifeform: mangol: reich stratagem is to set up a perceived dichotomy where yer either 'with the program' or out in 'the lonesome deep space', outside the city walls, in company of 'martians did 9-11', etc. illiterates/schizos
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-09 22:23:38 asciilifeform: mats: at this pt the logs span 2 sets of nominally opposite sets of washingtoni muppets. notice any serious change, visible to naked eye, in how reich operates , over this time ?
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-11 08:30:30 asciilifeform: cgra: nobody's in fact abolishing cash, it's an 'unprincipled exception' quite necessary for the reich to function, and attempts to phase it out give similar result to hruschev's idiocy
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: there's a large chunk of reich system which relies on 'unprincipled exceptions'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mangol: weizenbaum was entirely correct, banking as currently seen in reich could have complexity-collapsed, resulting in reversion to historic practice. electro-banking -- gave it reprieve
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-25 15:18:30 asciilifeform: current reich is based on model of 'cheaper to guard the concentration camp if the inmates can be persuaded that they aint in one' ;
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mangol: no 'implant' simply from reich strategy of 'soft', i.e. deceptive, mutilation, rather than straight force
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-09 13:48:28 asciilifeform: mangol: imho obv. to anyone whose 'third eye' is even half-open, that reich cultivates 'lumpenization', promotes degeneracy, and actively curates 'movements' which sum to 'break coupla windows, steal coupla tvs, then go home and od on dope', neutralizing the 'active' and terrorizing the 'passive'
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-24 11:32:00 asciilifeform: the cancellation of middle class in the reich that mats was cheering for is moar or less the abandonment of the 'carrot', lizards appear to think 'stick' will suffice 4evah
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: post-medieval 'merchant' nobility was sustainable only in context of expanding resource base. in shrinking/stagnant resource base, the old (hereditary nobility, serfs, etc) system is the stable one. so currently reich activity all with aim to reorg into the latter.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: from pov of arbitrarily narrow top of pyramid, reich worx a++ bugfree
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: reich seems to have made this decision rather long time ago, e.g. in '16 turned it into dump ground for 'refugees' etc
(asciilifeform) mangol: how can reich stay afloat if the us and eu economies stay on the current downward spiral?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mangol: ukrowank was originally aimed to start in '14. but putin succeeded in keeping 'on ice' for 8y, buying time to conduct a hurried (and limitedly successful) 'deiphonization' (get off addiction to 'swift', 'visa', give eureich time to strange its fission plants, etc)
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-24 12:00:33 asciilifeform: signpost: the 'controlled chaos' reich.strategy aint any kinda seekrit.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-08 13:19:03 asciilifeform: likely 100% sincere. 'there's reich and, outside its walls, there's barbarism' etc
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: greatest existential threat to reich is the existence of an 'outside'. historically, and today.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 14:45:04 asciilifeform: at one pt, reich installed mole (gorby) and 'won', and feasted on the delish minerals + sawed-up su industrial base & manpower for all of '90s
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mangol: in re the bigger picture. and not simply 'east expansion', but that reich rather obv. cannot survive 1) without continuing to get ru fuels & other minerals for ~phree 2) the continued existence of an alt-civilization
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 14:43:20 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: moar interesting is the 'big pic' -- the current war in fact started from 4th crusade, and continues episodically in form of various 'drang nach osten' by impoverished western eureichs, who will not give up dream of 'lebensraum' and delish phree minerals from 'unfairly squatted by orcs' 1/6th of planet3
(asciilifeform) mangol: a problem for reich is that the chumps tend not to be violent enough, so harder to print FUD
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-10#1094876 << there's no such thing as '1e6 rioters'. ('We use the term "thieves" if the number of men does not exceed seven, and "brigands" for a number between seven and thirty-five. Anything beyond this is an "army."') needs supply of food, etc. and organization (i.e. in '14 kiev, reich spent over $mil/day to keep '1e6 rioters' fed, watered, etc)
(asciilifeform) mangol: the fact that undercover operatives + randoms loitered into the building, and there's now a big show trial, is the best possible outcome for reich
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: simply to take 1 screamingly obv. example, the setup where ~0.1% of reich owns ~all property and rents/mortgages it to the rest, at no pt was or will be up for vote in any elections
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: at this pt the logs span 2 sets of nominally opposite sets of washingtoni muppets. notice any serious change, visible to naked eye, in how reich operates , over this time ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: reich not actually run by the public heads.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: but, importantly, even if martian spetsnaz parachuted in and killed literally all of the ceremonial officials, would make ~0 diff, their plug-in replacements would take office overnight & reich not skip a beat
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: signpost: near as can tell, reich sank $over9000 into attempt to set up a 'ohnoez, rightwing extremists' show with corpses. and managed only handful.
(asciilifeform) mangol: http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-04-09#1094733 << indeed it doesn't. but should be met with a controlled response. the main problem is that reich has made it extremely difficult to craft one.
(asciilifeform) mangol: asciilifeform: nothing that will hurt reich in sufficient numbers to stop it
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-09 13:51:24 asciilifeform: adlai: broad subject -- e.g. the folx successfully herded into 'social media'(tm) with lolcats, yes, serve reich 'by watching lolcats'.
(asciilifeform) mangol: of course reich promotes degeneracy and neutralizes the active. my point is, reich is very effective at suppressing active people who decide to stop being neutra
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: adlai: broad subject -- e.g. the folx successfully herded into 'social media'(tm) with lolcats, yes, serve reich 'by watching lolcats'.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mangol: imho obv. to anyone whose 'third eye' is even half-open, that reich cultivates 'lumpenization', promotes degeneracy, and actively curates 'movements' which sum to 'break coupla windows, steal coupla tvs, then go home and od on dope', neutralizing the 'active' and terrorizing the 'passive'
(asciilifeform) mangol: there's a conventional name for non-reich-moderated biz: crime :)
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-09 13:03:25 mangol: normal people just can't do any "activism". if you do a lot of work, you have to set up businesses and other reich-moderated structured activities.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-09#1094540 << theoretically possible to non-reich-moderated biz, w/out the 'activism' wankage. but it won't happen unless actual hands materialize to make it.
(asciilifeform) mangol: normal people just can't do any "activism". if you do a lot of work, you have to set up businesses and other reich-moderated structured activities.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-08#1094459 << asciilifeform admits surprise : thought reich had that one buttoned up
(asciilifeform) mangol: i presume it's possible to believe in the "higher good" (good reich vs evil barbarians) without drinking that low-level kool-aid
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mangol: the military elephant on which reich 'turtle' stands, requires certain # of 'drinkers of koolaid'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: psychology of elite is complicated can of worms. but fundamentally selected for 'reich way or barbarism' and 'for us, yacht, for them, mcd' and all else compat. w/ said core
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: likely 100% sincere. 'there's reich and, outside its walls, there's barbarism' etc
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mangol: reich system is a stadium without an exit door at any level.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: reich 'compartment' system worx quite well.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: none of this is unique to current reich
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mangol: not all reich activity directly for 'proximate' yacht. some is 'strategic', i.e. for continued viability of the structure itself.
(asciilifeform) mangol: so when reich wants to "optimize away" a trad. institution, these people are up to the task
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-08 12:18:59 asciilifeform: pg's yc co. , as i gather, was orig. built to take ambitious young technical folx 'out of circulation', prevent'em from 'rocking boat'. but expanded beyond original charter, to also pull various politically-expedient stunts that reich needs pulled but not good fit for officials per se or 'ngo'.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: e.g. to bake reich's Official tame gox (coinbase), or saw away at whatever remaining labour laws (uber), etc
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: pg's yc co. , as i gather, was orig. built to take ambitious young technical folx 'out of circulation', prevent'em from 'rocking boat'. but expanded beyond original charter, to also pull various politically-expedient stunts that reich needs pulled but not good fit for officials per se or 'ngo'.
(asciilifeform) mangol: so the only stage at which reich control is applied is selecting who to fund
(asciilifeform) mangol: society raises x number of people who are gifted, ambitious and don't ask too many questions -> reich gives money and fame -> said people get comfortable and keep repeating working script?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( pg is a rather undisguised reich mouthpiece )
(asciilifeform) mangol: reich's carrot dangling provess leaves nothing to be desired
(asciilifeform) mangol: reich convinced me for a long time that Things are Complicated (TM)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: reich quite effective at convincing'em that 'it simply Happened, for Reasons'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-07#1093579 << reich excelled at the job of disconnecting as many as possible from meat superorganism.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-07#1093544 << expect that there'll be over9000 of these coming outta the woodwork as reich proceeds on collapse path. similarly to the 'phree oil from rocks' 'witch' in zimbabwe, the 'psychics' sponsored by eltsin, etc
(asciilifeform) signpost: reich's also suicidal.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: most likely, simply reich-designated undertaker for 'things that oughta stay buried'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: reich inmate hasn't any knobs within reach that connected to anyffin.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-24 16:29:03 asciilifeform: the # of 'unbelievers' is unknown, cuz reich aint set up in such a way that the captives' beliefs actually matter in any way
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: not even clear to asciilifeform why reich bothers with the media circus. given as makes 0 diff in reality what inmates think.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform not recalls even 1 reich politician 'died of covid'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: iirc was comedic episode, where reich talking head 'threatened' cn with... recall of 'software licenses'

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