billymg[asciilifeform]: $ticker btc usd
billymg[asciilifeform]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2024-02-13#1032163 << was fun to watch
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2024-02-13 14:57:29 signpost: subj of threats, I watched the putin interview yest.
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $52354.47
billymg[asciilifeform]: ah, that knocked it loose
billymg[asciilifeform]: apparently this is old news but don't see it in the logs, el salvador charging travelers from india and africa $1000 "airport improvement fee"
asciilifeform: billymg: reminiscent of the (long gone, but existed when asciilifeform went) 'us passport tax' of argentina
asciilifeform: in the latter case, at least knew why (it was a fuckyou in re us refusal to sign a visa-free treaty with subj)
signpost[asciilifeform]: lol!
signpost[asciilifeform] planning to visit el salvador sometime, maybe this year
asciilifeform: signpost: know somebody there ?
mod6[asciilifeform]: yeah, it was like $100 or some dumb thing
signpost[asciilifeform]: nope, no contacts there
asciilifeform: signpost: ah, so why to go ?
signpost[asciilifeform]: bukele seems to be doing a good job either of propagandizing el salvador as a budding singapore, actually doing it, or both.
signpost[asciilifeform]: want to see what's going on in person.
asciilifeform wonders how many m^2 of salvador 1btc buys
asciilifeform: iirc it's purpurtedly a kind of slovenia in re btc
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2021-08-31 kakobrekla: but if i were, slovenia has 0 tax on crypto
signpost[asciilifeform]: yep, lots of preferential treatment announced for btc holders and techbros
asciilifeform: signpost: if you go there, plz do post
signpost[asciilifeform]: mhm shall report if/when
asciilifeform not been there, and not knows anyone who has
signpost[asciilifeform]: billymg: you made it there yet? I don't recall.
asciilifeform also curious re what's in slovenia, has difficulty picturing untaxed-btc zone somehow surviving in the middle of darkest eureich
signpost[asciilifeform]: we actually get a proper halving out of btc again and I'm likely to shop in earnest for an exit
signpost[asciilifeform]: looking good so far
signpost[asciilifeform] has kid now, will otherwise someday ask what was wrong with my head, and what will I say.
asciilifeform: inshallah
awt_akris[asciilifeform]: met with a guy helping out with immigration
signpost[asciilifeform]: awt how'd you find it?
discord_bridge[asciilifeform]: (awtho) Came across my twitter feed.
billymg[asciilifeform]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2024-02-15#1032247 << i recently found out singapore is based as hell, afaik the most expensive citizenship for sale in the world. zero tolerance for niggers, including, based on the bar they set for residency, yours truly
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2024-02-15 14:00:16 signpost: bukele seems to be doing a good job either of propagandizing el salvador as a budding singapore, actually doing it, or both.
signpost[asciilifeform]: yup, isn't it something like a 20mil investment to get into singapore?
billymg[asciilifeform]: so if el salvador ends up becoming the central american version of that, would be great to get in on the ground floor
signpost[asciilifeform] unwashed nignog by that standard also
billymg[asciilifeform]: signpost: yeah, something like that, but not just "here's the 20 mil", it's gotta be in the form of a company that employs x number of people, etc.
billymg[asciilifeform]: ah, i guess there is a more direct, just the investment option as well
billymg[asciilifeform]: signpost: not been to el salvador yet myself but i am following with interest
billymg[asciilifeform]: costa rica in the past year has had a significant uptick in narco crime and violence. also keeping an eye on that and how the government here responds
billymg[asciilifeform]: people and politicians here apparently point to el salvador and call for cr to do the same
asciilifeform: if you've 20e6$ to burn on a banana passport, yer prolly fine even in the darkest heart of the reich
signpost[asciilifeform] fully supportive of basedreich stacking thugs like sardines for life.
signpost[asciilifeform]: CR was friendly but iirc doesn't have enough boots and guns to hold their territory if there were a serious problem.
signpost[asciilifeform]: unclear what's ahead for latin america as a whole if things really churn.
asciilifeform: signpost: even if you posit that no one wants the territory (afaik there aint anyffin valuable there), when reich kaput, erryone there will be living on bananas, in straw huts, at some pt
signpost[asciilifeform]: this, and ass-up for whomever wants the resources
signpost[asciilifeform]: venezuela and essequibo probably foreshadows.
signpost[asciilifeform]: iirc brazil also going hardline commie.
asciilifeform: ww3 aside, iirc cr not even comes close to the 'live like king on what'd be catfood pension in usa' line
asciilifeform: so asciilifeform not knows what is the appeal
asciilifeform: if yer in cr, salvador, panama, etc. and usg has 'questions' for you, you're packaged in a crate and shipped on 1st flight next morning, for instance
signpost[asciilifeform]: I mean, if abbott makes good on his grunts in re: abolishment of property tax I might have to ride TX into the dirt on principle.
asciilifeform: what did he propose to tax instead ?
signpost[asciilifeform]: existing business income tax (franchise tax) is booming
signpost[asciilifeform] shelved the new hampshire idea after spending some time there.
signpost[asciilifeform]: does not seem to me that the small number of libertarians who moved there are making a significant impact compared to the cucks coming from massachusetts and other surrounding shitholes.
billymg[asciilifeform]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2024-02-15#1032286 << if the reich weakens and has to cede territory (in the abstract sense, such as political relations that allow for crate shipping of persons of interest), what do they give up first? cr, el salvador, and tx? or virginia
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2024-02-15 16:29:19 asciilifeform[jonsykkel|signpost|billymg]: if yer in cr, salvador, panama, etc. and usg has 'questions' for you, you're packaged in a crate and shipped on 1st flight next morning, for instance
billymg[asciilifeform]: so my thinking is to be in one of the spots they write off sooner rather than later
signpost[asciilifeform]: I just don't think I'm that important, really.
billymg[asciilifeform]: that too
signpost[asciilifeform]: more about as you said, making an early bet on a rising singapore, if that actually happens.
asciilifeform: iirc sg imports 100% of errything, incl. mains current
billymg[asciilifeform]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2024-02-15#1032292 << appreciate this assessment, can cross it off the list
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2024-02-15 16:34:16 signpost: does not seem to me that the small number of libertarians who moved there are making a significant impact compared to the cucks coming from massachusetts and other surrounding shitholes.
asciilifeform: i.e. only exists as a bureucratic artifact
billymg[asciilifeform] is curious how things are in uruguay, maybe BingoBoingo will chime in again someday
signpost[asciilifeform]: billymg: overpopulated with wiggers too, all of new england.
billymg[asciilifeform]: signpost: after spending some time recently with my family (all hopelessly lobotomized liberals) i've realized that the most important thing for me is to simply not be around them
billymg[asciilifeform]: as asciilifeform always points out, reich can get at you anywhere in the world, so would rather just be in a place with fewer crazy people
signpost[asciilifeform]: it's like canada; everywhere outside the major cities is comprised of the remnant losers who couldn't get in, and the cities are on their way on the portland/san-francisco arc.
signpost[asciilifeform] blessed with relatives that have some amount of sanity, but most have fucked off to these or those woods.
asciilifeform: billymg: relocation arguably a 'scylla and charybdis' situation, with 'crazy lobotomized bonsaipeople' on 1 side and 'can't buy an m3 screw, not even speaking of roquefort...' on other
asciilifeform: (before laughing at 'roquefort', recall that ~erryone had sumthing they like that dungrow in bananistans. for mp, it was tall chix, rather than m3 screws, say)
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2024-02-15#1032310 << part of the us insanity is that the relatively-sane can't (and afaik not even try) to agree on which woods to fuck off to
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2024-02-15 16:43:29 signpost: blessed with relatives that have some amount of sanity, but most have fucked off to these or those woods.
asciilifeform: 'won't hang together, so hang separately'(tm)(r)(c)
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2024-02-15#1032307 << 'get' most often not means 'noriega', but rather 'they set 1 bit in a db and nao if you wanna go somewhere, gotta walk or swim, and yer bank accts == 0'
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2024-02-15 16:42:28 billymg: as asciilifeform always points out, reich can get at you anywhere in the world, so would rather just be in a place with fewer crazy people
asciilifeform: fwiw.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in misc. lulz.