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awt[cgra]: signpost: very nice!
awt[cgra]: !!ticker btc usd
bitbot[cgra]: Logged on 2023-02-16 16:25:19 cgra[jonsykkel|awt|signpost]: would billymg like to peer?
cgra: billymg, ip addr i gave you is outdated, but also somehow no address cast success yet
awt[cgra]: cgra: billymg is possibly running an older blatta
billymg[asciilifeform]: i've also historically had problems peering with some people
bitbot[cgra]: Logged on 2022-05-27 19:17:28 billymg: so that takes care of my peer issue with crawlerbot at least, /at now shows us directly connected. unfortunately that doesn't help me in debugging the peer issue with shinohai, signpost, and mod6
billymg[asciilifeform]: though out of that list something finally shook loose with shinohai and i started receiving packets from him
billymg[asciilifeform]: just out of the blue started working, sometime around the end of last year
asciilifeform: billymg: iirc he finally switched to a non-nat'd box at some pt (not long before going off to sea or wherever he is nao)
cgra: ah i see
asciilifeform: phf ( or any other folx who operate crapple irons ) -- know whether crapple sells a box that can drive 3 'displayport' outputs ?
asciilifeform: ( ... signpost ? billymg ? )
asciilifeform dug through their www and not arrived at a clear verdict
cgra: billymg, does your ip change often? mine does
busybot[cgra]: Current BTC price in USD: $18761.42
cgra: getdata c3914075ef8df5c8b48a1e405b1171edb6b900ed81139c984938264077cbcd20 billymg
cgra: pest undo button when?
awt[cgra]: cgra: the console window is gonna be nice. Typing commands into the message box is inevitably going to cause pain.
asciilifeform: awt: in asciilifeform's proto, console is a tab window, eats various commands
billymg[cgra|asciilifeform]: cgra: no, my pest box is on a static ip
billymg[cgra]: cgra: ah, we seem to be peered now
billymg[cgra]: my at showing packets from you
billymg[cgra|asciilifeform]: << don't know for sure but if any of the non-x86 boxes in their current lineup could it would be the 'macbook pro' or the 'mac studio'
bitbot[asciilifeform|cgra]: Logged on 2023-02-17 11:45:51 asciilifeform[4]: phf ( or any other folx who operate crapple irons ) -- know whether crapple sells a box that can drive 3 'displayport' outputs ?
asciilifeform: billymg: reading their brochure, seems like both of these require 1 out to be via hdmi
asciilifeform: (primary display?)
asciilifeform: ( if wondering wai would giveashit -- asciilifeform's kvm eats strictly displayport, and hdmi->displayport requires an active box, and asciilifeform tried half dozen vendors for the latter, none of'em work reliably )
billymg[cgra]: asciilifeform: ah found it: "Up to four external displays: Up to three external displays with 6K resolution at 60Hz over Thunderbolt and one external display with up to 4K resolution at 144Hz over HDMI"
billymg[cgra]: seems to meet your reqs
asciilifeform: billymg: ty. ( not aboutta entomb a lappy in the rack tho )
asciilifeform: seems like none of their low-end 'bricks' do it, at 1st glance
billymg[asciilifeform|cgra]: asciilifeform: from mac studio specs: "Support for up to four Pro Display XDRs (6K resolution at 60Hz and over a billion colors) over USB-C and one 4K display (4K resolution at 60Hz and over a billion colors) over HDMI"
billymg[cgra|asciilifeform]: one of those would rack neatly i imagine
asciilifeform: a, ty. maybe will use that 1 ( egregious, imho, that 4k$+ and soldered-on hdd, lol, tho )
asciilifeform: wonder if that thing has same problem as prev. crapples (loses order of displays ~errytime the kvm switches)
asciilifeform lulzily, nao on 3rd year of hunting for any possible replacement for his kvm, but there's still exactly 1 chipset that does '3x4'
billymg[cgra|asciilifeform]: asciilifeform: seems for that model you can still get the same display support on the "cheap" ($2k) model
asciilifeform: billymg: rright but then yer stuck with toy ram/disk
asciilifeform: (both soldered in)
asciilifeform luckily not relies on crapple heavily, but is embroiled in certain commercial liquishit which runs there, so has for many yrs kept 1 around and periodically used
signpost[cgra]: << no idea, mac's been collecting dust for about 1.5yr
bitbot[cgra]: Logged on 2023-02-17 11:45:51 asciilifeform[4]: phf ( or any other folx who operate crapple irons ) -- know whether crapple sells a box that can drive 3 'displayport' outputs ?
asciilifeform has also been carrying on a crapple port of gui pestron proto (for use on lappies) but developing on lappy has proved physically unpleasant
asciilifeform: signpost: crapple seems to be carrying on their 'fine tradition' of snipping previously-commonplace pheatures from their irons and repackaging at 2-3x multiple of cost in 'pro' version
asciilifeform: ( and sometimes, as with ability to replace ram/disk -- in no version at all )
signpost[cgra]: sounds about right. mac's about 10% of their revenue these days.
billymg[cgra|asciilifeform]: asciilifeform: you vill own nothing and you vill be happy
signpost[cgra]: at some point they'll just slap an attached keyboard on an iPad and call it a day.
asciilifeform: signpost: from iron pov, their current lappy is moar or less that already
signpost[cgra]: in unrelated news, phf is right. half of "AI" is trans weebs.
bitbot[cgra]: Logged on 2022-11-23 13:32:55 asciilifeform[5]: phf: moar re new crapples : on 'm2' fanless lappy, built ffa, and this benchmark ran in 1min 41s.
asciilifeform: signpost: this re the 'tab complete ai' service from earlier thrd ?
signpost[cgra] booting up an opensource turd gpt
signpost[cgra]: seeing for what evils it can be used, if any
asciilifeform: << leased irons, incidentally, aint new, but rather a return to 'bad old days' of monopolies ( ibm's leased mainframes, at&t phone, etc ) and their return is unsurprising in context of collapse
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-03-24 asciilifeform: see e.g. ancient orc proverb, 'how do you make a cow eat less and give more milk?' 'feed it less, milk it more'
bitbot[cgra]: Logged on 2023-02-17 13:02:18 billymg: asciilifeform: you vill own nothing and you vill be happy
asciilifeform: ( similarly to how 'software as service'(tm) is a return to ye olde time-sharing systems )
asciilifeform: ... in particular, is imho precisely what one'd expect in context of 'death of moore's law'. vendor cannot live if is enuff for user to buy 1 box and sit on it for 20+y until the capacitors pop
asciilifeform: awt: loox liek standard prb fluff piece ( where's the interesting part.. ? )
awt[cgra]: Reads as an attack to me
awt[cgra]: Attack on prb that is
asciilifeform: fluff in the 'prb is bitcoin!'(tm)(r) party line invariably baked into these
awt[cgra|asciilifeform]: Article title: "Bitcoin’s Future Depends on a Handful of Mysterious Coders"
asciilifeform recalls over9000 similar pieces
asciilifeform: the hilarious bit naodays is that prb is irrelevant not because seekrit 'heart' of trb-compat. noades, but because ~nobody is actually using bitcoin afaik
dulapbot: Logged on 2023-01-18 14:17:41 asciilifeform: signpost: wouldn't surprise asciilifeform if turns out that the 'halving vs exchrate' patter no longer holds anymoar, nao that 'no actual btc harmed in the making of this film'(tm) gox-powered arse-mouth-system 'economy' prevails
signpost[cgra]: << the bug they mention was introduced rather recently.
asciilifeform: quite similarly to the irrelevant of physical au to 'metals market'
signpost[cgra]: introduced in 0.15
asciilifeform: *irrelevance
signpost[cgra]: would not be surprised if intentionally
asciilifeform: i.e. paperization.
asciilifeform: signpost: entirely typical
asciilifeform: ( these lulz have worked in precisely same way since e.g. 'heartbleed' )
signpost[cgra]: yep, behold as central banks are all apparently loading up on gold, and exchange rate is currently around what it was in 2011
asciilifeform: noshit, cuz what they 'loaded up on' is vapour.
signpost[cgra]: what, you don't like optimized code?
signpost[cgra]: best optimizations are stacked optimizations
asciilifeform: loltimized, and openly brag of 'covert fixes' etc
asciilifeform: hey, the dough for these derps to eat gotta come from somewhere, neh
asciilifeform: quite possibly, nsa is the only 'sponsor' remaining
asciilifeform: goxes maintaining the pretense that lusers 'can withdraw actual btc on-chain' not requires any kinda high-quality softs.
asciilifeform wonders when the remnants of that pretense will finally evaporate
signpost[cgra]: I wager they'll just make BTC an "accredited investor" thing
signpost[cgra]: lock out the poors
asciilifeform: signpost: afaik the current 'lock' is entirely satisfactory
asciilifeform: y'know, precisely like for physical au.
signpost[cgra]: nah, can still pull BTC out of kraken and coinbase to 1address to this day.
asciilifeform: ( can go and buy all the au bricks you like, it'll be 'worth' what the paper pushers decide it is 'worth' )
signpost[cgra]: but I do think they'll close that down to "non-accredited"
signpost[cgra]: why wouldn't they
asciilifeform: signpost: satisfying a plebe's 'lemme withdraw my 0.5' is quite cheap.
signpost[asciilifeform]: ah sure, no question. both items are a bet on the death of USD.
signpost[cgra]: or at least mega-diminution from reserve currency of rock 3
asciilifeform: signpost: 'they'll ban goxes! finally!' imho is an unattainable dream. goxes are the key instrument of paperization and exchrate control.
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-01-19 asciilifeform: the reason why various 2010s 'they'll ban goxes!' prognoses (incl. asciilifeform's) came to nuffin, is that turns out goxes are a very effective instrument of exchrate control, and therefore quite valuable to the reich.
asciilifeform: recall how au aficionados have been jacking off to 'fdr will return from grave and ban our bricks' for nearly century
asciilifeform: is no accident that no one since the brain-damaged fuhrer did any such thing
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-12-14 12:05:47 asciilifeform: billymg: per asciilifeform's pov, worst thing that's happened to bitcoin to date was its 2010s 'legalization' and the 'institutional' 'law-abiding' vermin crawling in and pumping/dumping
signpost[cgra]: not ban. the beoble will be able to have their kraken account with $x "BTC"
asciilifeform: as fishing worx over9000 better with the worm than without, the pretense of 'can withdraw btc' is inexpensive to satisfy, rather like how the au chumpatrons will happily ship you a brick (just not 1000 bricks)
asciilifeform: already erry gox to date worked a++ until someone 'asked for withdraw of 1000 bricks'
asciilifeform: point being, if not obv, that the linkage of paperolade to physical au / chained btc / etc., however tenuous, is still req'd to properly control the exchrate of the real thing
asciilifeform: failing this, 'real thing' becomes a 'teleportable cocaine' and exchrate --> maxint.
asciilifeform: like e.g. usd in late ussr.
asciilifeform: bans in such case do ~0 (possession of au/usd in qty in orcistan was a hanging offense). folx in reich would already save in cocaine if the latter were instantly authenticable and not inflationary (the cartels afaik do a decent job ensuring that it is inflationary)
asciilifeform: not even speaking of 'teleportable cocaine'.
asciilifeform: there are already reich subjects who 'save in'... machine guns. with all the obv. pitfalls.
awt[cgra|asciilifeform]: Just set my station's address_cast_interval_seconds knob to 3600, ftr, in order to reduce spam until I can get a patch out.
awt[cgra|asciilifeform]: Patch will send ac spam on: launch, address change, peer creation age > current_time - new_peer_ac_cutoff_seconds
awt[cgra|asciilifeform]: * peer creation time
billymg[cgra|asciilifeform]: awt, or others on twitter, what's all this "ordinals" noise about?
billymg[asciilifeform|cgra]: i haven't bothered to look, but seem to remember seeing somewhere how they're loading arbitrary data (jpegs in this case) into the part of a segwit transaction reserved for the wit, and apparently this part has no space constraint?
billymg[cgra|asciilifeform]: is that description anywhere remotely close to what that thing is supposed to be or how it's supposed to work?
signpost[cgra]: << you can apparently study ordinal theory here billymg
bitbot[cgra]: (trilema) 2018-01-28 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other chicks can code moments, "I earned my degree and license in cosmetology and had a horrible career as a hair dresser that I ended in 2015 due to social anxiety. I still love hair theory, and I even really enjoy working on people with whom I share a close relationship,
asciilifeform: billymg: see ancient #t logs, this lul appeared in 2010s as 'coloured coins'
asciilifeform: ( apparently risen nao from grave ? )
asciilifeform: there's no theoretical limit to shitcoin proliferation -- next yr some huckster will offer 'serialized satoshis' in reversed order, or whatever nonsense, get'em onto goxes, and siphon some coin from gullible tards. rinse, repeat.
billymg[cgra|asciilifeform]: asciilifeform: yeah, that's what i assumed it was as well
billymg[cgra|asciilifeform] will look again to see if i can find where it said that this new scheme stores data on the actual (segwit) blockchain and that the size is unrestricted
signpost[cgra]: would be entertaining if they snuck a runaway disk-space eater into prb
billymg[cgra|asciilifeform]: signpost: i was thinking it would be the perfect opportunity for a pro-trb / anti-segwit propaganda push
billymg[cgra|asciilifeform]: hrm, not "unlimited" though: "As a result, anyone can now store unlimited amounts of data with this function by paying for it, as long as the total block size remains under 4 MB."
billymg[cgra|asciilifeform]: that type of wording must have been where i got the "unlimited" notion from before
billymg[cgra|asciilifeform]: but nonetheless an easy way to generate spam and max out each block
awt[cgra|asciilifeform]: apparently wherever "ordinals" are stored is offered at a subsidised price.
billymg[cgra|asciilifeform]: awt: how does that work?
billymg[cgra|asciilifeform]: i mean the subsidized part
awt[cgra]: billymg: this explains it pretty well: "This weight measurement basically gives the validation part of a transaction (the signature data) a discount, so it doesn’t take up as much “space” inside a block. In other words, the signature data is less costly than th
awt[cgra|asciilifeform]: e rest of the transaction data."
asciilifeform lulz at the derps marketing space on ~other folx's~ hdds
asciilifeform: incidentally, equally tru of the original
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2021-11-08 asciilifeform: i.e. the 'responsibility collapse triangle' of collectivist failure where there's 'users' who 'just want', and a set of 'providers' who are to supply the thing they 'just want', and somehow they are to live happily-ever-after together w/out one sticking knife in the back of the other
asciilifeform: << fwiw folx have been stuffing arbitrary bits into blocks, in various ways, since almost day0. this costs tho, and so was not commonly done without 'reason'
bitbot[asciilifeform|cgra]: Logged on 2023-02-17 16:26:22 signpost: would be entertaining if they snuck a runaway disk-space eater into prb
asciilifeform: ( 'reason' was mostly the reich-sponsored 'stress test' of '16-18, to help spread 'blox are toosmall!' fud )
signpost[cgra] not familiar, but looks at brief glance like moving dbcoin and IOUcoin is popular enough that block space is cheap.
signpost[cgra]: and made slightly cheaper with this hack that crams the dickbutt.gif into the sig
signpost[cgra]: given the weight thing
asciilifeform was aboutta ask 'what stops $derp2 from stuffing a dickbutt2.gif, visually indistinguishable but binary-unidentical to $derp1's dickbutt.gif into the block and 'marketing' same' but realized that the answr, as with prior hash schemes, not matters 1 whit
asciilifeform: luckily, participation in this idiocy is (as was with 'coloured coins', 'nft', etc. garbage) -- 100% optional
asciilifeform: in this case not even competes for space in actual blox.
asciilifeform: scammers will not likely give up attempts to 'replay 2009' by convincing morons that $item-created-from-thin-air is 'valuable'.
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2021-07-18 asciilifeform: erryone wants to 'be satoshi'. how to achieve this if not by somehow replaying history with $perp at 'the center'.
asciilifeform: considering how easy and cheap it is, and fact that 'sucker born erryminute', will never become -ev, either
asciilifeform: entirely like email spam.
asciilifeform: 'numismatics' is precisely the correct analogy -- buncha idjit idlers convince ea. other that penny with the face struck backwards or whatnot, 'valuable', happily sell'em to 1 anuther for 1000$; entirely harmless to other folx
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: ZX47oOlCwWTPyIpowGh5VMkB9sbAwJO+HiLcp4gmIxVgxobeJgH+k+mlYzvAHCwNHyF7grRx2DfJmWpyaeFsXg==
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: rip launch codes
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: billymg: req updated AT plox
signpost[asciilifeform]: damn it bobby, a man's pest keys are his sacred honor. you don't go hhwavin' then around for every lookie-lou
asciilifeform: hey is this the 1st recorded own goal ?
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: asciilifeform launch key noncritical
asciilifeform: a, was it meant to go in %key foo bar
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: ascii, current ip?
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: did some fiddling with iptables trying to get nat working (still seeing you as hearsay)
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: fresh pestron + db
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: hence pasted kodes
asciilifeform: crtdaydreams:
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: bizzare behaviour considering peered with awt, signpost et jonsykkel
asciilifeform in a nat and to this day not found how to get port fwd reliably
asciilifeform: crtdaydreams: let's try from other end? wat's yours
asciilifeform: crtdaydreams: rekeyed and re-at'd
asciilifeform: 'no packets...' tho
asciilifeform: also for sumreason had to unpeer to get past ' Error attempting to add key '
asciilifeform: ^ bug ?
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: asciilifeform: corrupt db?
asciilifeform: ( per spec, oughta eat any # of keys )
asciilifeform: crtdaydreams: are you in a nat ?
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: ascii ye, but I thought I had fwded successfully?
asciilifeform: evidently nope
u0_a280[asciilifeform]: testing blatta 9977
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2021-06-30 mats: ill give you an invite to a private tracker for a song
u0_a280[asciilifeform]: $ticker btc usd
asciilifeform: ( yockey, that is )
asciilifeform: even before end of ww2, was rather obv. that totalitarian reichs will colonize all of planet3, for objective techno-economic reasons
asciilifeform: the solider part of the argument concerned airplane, rather than nuke
asciilifeform was wondering wainot
asciilifeform: yea, will echo as soon as asciilifeform gets around to plugging own logotron into pestnet
asciilifeform: signpost: cheapcoinz when!
asciilifeform: billymg: after 2 'official' batteries, started doing'em w/ own hands, turns out only takes hr or so
asciilifeform: chinesium spares are ~fiddybux
asciilifeform: ( need eye dropper & a few ml of 99+% ethyl , and new battery naturally )
asciilifeform: + plastic spudger.
asciilifeform: awt: you gotta do it before it balloons to the pt where keyboard bends/breaks tho (crapple's repair depot included the latter , but afaik there's nowhere you can readily buy that part)
asciilifeform: << at some pt the 'institutional' moneys, hypothetically, will gtfo, and what remains would be the 'genuine' exch rate
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-05-09 asciilifeform: the banishment of 'institutional' scum from btcism can't happen soon enuff.
asciilifeform: ... objective of the 'institutional' scum is simple as a hammer: 1) pump it up, so that 1a) btc-usd dun track actual-inflation 1b) can dump it periodically, inducing morons (esp. of the 'leveraged' variety) to panic sell 2) let'em load up on the cheap, after each such panic.
asciilifeform: there's likely a 3) keep up volatility to maximally inhbit honest commerce.
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2021-07-11 asciilifeform: actual commerce, i.e. the kind where you MAKE things, sell'em, do actual services for people, it is -- punished -- by the volatility
asciilifeform: *inhibit
asciilifeform: billymg: wotless commerce at any rate.
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2020-12-17 asciilifeform: ( usg tradition moar or less ~requires~ a 'controlled buy', i.e. executed by a dedicated stoolie, to convict a contrabandist. and not merely 'd00d admitted on his www that he once sold a bitcoin'. e.g. mp admitted that he once killed and ate a man, but observe that no one tried to arrest him for it )
asciilifeform must disagree
asciilifeform: hawala scales as much as anyone could want.
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-01-14 asciilifeform: i.e. you go to yer l1 hawaladar.
asciilifeform: 'it worx if you work it'
asciilifeform: bitbot: l2/l3 from a dunbaristic wot is large enuff
asciilifeform: err, billymg
asciilifeform: nor are you stuck dealing with'em directly. hypothetically, if yer trafficing plutonium, mediate through l1.
asciilifeform: from one pov, is a hilarious twist on the usg newspeak 'know yer customer'. if you ~actually~ 'know yer customer`, yer moar or less impenetrable to reich.
signpost[asciilifeform]: derp wrong thing
signpost[asciilifeform] been working on the onlinecodes impl today. got the encoder and decoder moar optimized.
signpost[asciilifeform]: last benchmark did 1sec encoding 10MB, 850ms decoding 10MB on single core.
signpost[asciilifeform]: conceivably could saturate a 1gbps connection soon if it parallelizes well on python. not sure, but giving it a decent try so I can test triggering transfers from blatta.
signpost[asciilifeform]: yep, on my end I saw you rejoin right at midnight asciilifeform, parted at 11:20pm
shinohai[asciilifeform]: $ticker btc usd
billymg[asciilifeform] will wait while the getdata replay finishes
billymg[asciilifeform]: so that takes care of my peer issue with crawlerbot at least, /at now shows us directly connected. unfortunately that doesn't help me in debugging the peer issue with shinohai, signpost, and mod6
shinohai[asciilifeform]: billymg is yer ip still ?
billymg[asciilifeform]: asciilifeform: looking forward to having a grownup box soon. i'm still going to get mine going here in cr too, just waiting on some new drives atm before i can put an OS on it
shinohai[asciilifeform]: dat stability.
billymg[asciilifeform]: or if there's no paperwork maybe not enforceable?
billymg[asciilifeform]: i had no idea either until i was negotiating the renewal of the flamingo place and they mentioned tax. i was like lolwtf there's no tax on rent
shinohai[asciilifeform]: << usually peers only appear when I first start station, then if peer parts they don't reappear in list unless I again restart station.
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2022-05-28 14:44:32 awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: shinohai: what is the issue you're seeing with displaying peers in blatta?
awt[asciilifeform]: Trying to figure out why
awt[asciilifeform]: Hey, might forget how to make nukes tho
awt[asciilifeform|asciilifeform]: There is a bright side to mass immigration from the global south
awt[asciilifeform]: Will reread. Been like a year or something.
bitbot[asciilifeform|asciilifeform]: billymg: time since my last reconnect : 33d 3h 37m
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-03-24 asciilifeform: the # of 'unbelievers' is unknown, cuz reich aint set up in such a way that the captives' beliefs actually matter in any way
billymg[asciilifeform|asciilifeform]: ohh, nm, actually not supposed to, because it's from asciilifeform's logger
bitbot[4]: (asciilifeform) 2022-03-24 asciilifeform: the # of 'unbelievers' is unknown, cuz reich aint set up in such a way that the captives' beliefs actually matter in any way
billymg[asciilifeform|asciilifeform|asciilifeform]: asciilifeform: i'll start publishing dumps of my logs soon too, with a cron job like you do on, so you'll be able to grab the pest history if you want
shinohai[asciilifeform]: $ticker btc usd
busybot[asciilifeform]: Current BTC price in USD: $31992.09
shinohai[asciilifeform]: LMAO, a++ lulz awt
shinohai[asciilifeform]: Nice work awt, nick shows up
busybot[asciilifeform]: Current BTC price in USD: $30139.97
signpost[asciilifeform] anticipates the weeping and gnashing of teeth in BTC soon.
busybot[asciilifeform]: The bot has been up for: 40 days 2 hours 15 minutes and 20 seconds
u0_a280[asciilifeform]: Nice to see that a shitty lil arm processor handles blatta just fine ^_^
awt[asciilifeform]: Interesting fed response to Russia and China being cut off from the US.
awt[asciilifeform|asciilifeform|asciilifeform]: Real estate perhaps starting to turn. We shall see.
bitbot[asciilifeform|asciilifeform|asciilifeform]: Logged on 2022-06-01 18:38:17 awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: Interesting fed response to Russia and China being cut off from the US.
billymg[asciilifeform|asciilifeform]: awt: right, what does raising interest rates do in the face of russia and china dumping dollars
billymg[asciilifeform]: this is anecdotal, but those new macbook pros are unobtainium right now
awt[asciilifeform|asciilifeform]: billymg: No recent news. But not clear raising interest rates will help with inflation caused by deglobalization.
billymg[4]: they first came out october last year
awt[asciilifeform|asciilifeform|asciilifeform]: Also - more expensive to make antibiotics in North/South America, Cars, Electronics, etc.
awt[asciilifeform|asciilifeform|asciilifeform]: billymg: 2500 for the 16" on apple's site
billymg[asciilifeform|asciilifeform|asciilifeform]: with shipping times into august already, for the non-customized version
billymg[asciilifeform]: an excerpt from a recent dmitry orlov article
billymg[asciilifeform|asciilifeform]: "So sorry, problem at container port, must wait for product!"
billymg[asciilifeform|asciilifeform]: i wonder if when CPI is calculated they use MSRP or the price you pay scalpers to actually get the thing you want
awt[asciilifeform|asciilifeform] went through episode in which old mbpro battery swelled - "repair" took a month, mbpro with sufficient horsepower unavailable for weeks.
awt[asciilifeform|asciilifeform]: It's hard to believe they even released the fake 8.5% number
awt[asciilifeform|asciilifeform|asciilifeform]: asciilifeform: neat. may give it a shot next time. currently only use one for music production.
billymg[asciilifeform]: asciilifeform: i did an iphone battery replacement myself once, wasn't bad. believe it or not my current 10yr old macbook pro battery not yet dead
shinohai[asciilifeform]: My previous lappy was an HP, battery swelled in little over a year of use. Simply tossed it since for around a hundy more than the battery cost I could simply buy new lappy.
awt[asciilifeform|asciilifeform|asciilifeform]: Not that insider trading was happening, obv.
bitbot[asciilifeform|asciilifeform]: Logged on 2022-06-01 21:20:00 asciilifeform: signpost: cheapcoinz when!
awt[asciilifeform|asciilifeform]: I say bottom was in at 26k. If I'm wrong I'll implement Pest in Javascript.
awt[asciilifeform|asciilifeform]: jonsykkel: I've been hearing rumors that Swedes are extremely reluctant to feed their guests (if they ever have them). Have you also heard this?
billymg[asciilifeform]: i was actually going to write my pest client in JS
billymg[asciilifeform]: and call it jest
billymg[asciilifeform]: i know but that doesn't matter
awt[asciilifeform|asciilifeform]: Should make it worse: IE6 compatibility required
awt[asciilifeform]: lol sorry jest is taken
signpost[asciilifeform]: awt: well, I bought then too.
signpost[asciilifeform]: but near-term it's been tracking the nasdaq almost perfectly, so unless you think the bottom is in for stonks, I'd get your javascripts ready.
awt[asciilifeform]: signpost: npm at the ready
awt[asciilifeform]: j/k no way in hell I'm writing more js
bitbot[asciilifeform|asciilifeform]: Logged on 2022-06-02 15:54:43 signpost[asciilifeform]: but near-term it's been tracking the nasdaq almost perfectly, so unless you think the bottom is in for stonks, I'd get your javascripts ready.
billymg[asciilifeform]: actual commerce in btc also punished by threat of jail if you're not "licensed"
billymg[asciilifeform|asciilifeform]: which is any commerce of any scale
billymg[asciilifeform]: isn't there still a cap?
bitbot[asciilifeform]: (asciilifeform) 2022-02-01 asciilifeform: from asciilifeform's pov, a >dunbar-sized wot, where such 'automations' seem useful, is an atrocity to begin with
billymg[asciilifeform]: ah, yeah, if you include l2 and l3 that's true
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2022-06-02 17:11:46 asciilifeform: << at some pt the 'institutional' moneys, hypothetically, will gtfo, and what remains would be the 'genuine' exch rate
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-05-09 asciilifeform: the banishment of 'institutional' scum from btcism can't happen soon enuff.
awt[asciilifeform]: << there is nowhere to gtfo to. Also this is the best environment for btc we've yet seen.
signpost[asciilifeform]: interesting thing in my case is that asciilifeform has an active peering with deedbot, but not me, and same ip:port in both ATs
shinohai[asciilifeform]: awesum awt .... look forward to testing! ^__^
shinohai[asciilifeform]: tyvm awt! Will report back in after updating & putting through paces.
shinohai[asciilifeform]: Reminds me I gotta clean up python pbuild and see what signpost thinks about it - that w/ sqlite was all I needed to get it running under pentacle chroot.
shinohai[asciilifeform]: (Eventually gonna move bot over to it)
shinohai[asciilifeform]: $ticker btc usd
shinohai[asciilifeform]: Suicided before the feebs could do it for him?
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: signpost: does deedbot run on homeserver or is it hosted elsewhere?
signpost[asciilifeform]: runs on a hosted server
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