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signpost[asciilifeform]: looks very much like the Thiel faction of the deep state is winning.
signpost[asciilifeform]: branded as redemption arc for Trump.
signpost[asciilifeform]: tbh whatever. we'll torch Taiwan like we did Ukraine and end up with a few more domestic fabs.
signpost[asciilifeform] marvels at the collective amnesia over trump and epstein being friends for 15yrs
discord_bridge[asciilifeform]: (awtho) Israel is safu
asciilifeform: hm thiel faction vs which others ?
asciilifeform screamingly outta date
asciilifeform: re epstein, iirc ~all~ of the reich's 'somebodies' were 'friends' (incl. even e.g. rms & minsky). given as he was the fresh meat procurer for that entire wot, with seemingly watertight cia krysha
signpost[asciilifeform]: I'd guess the neoconservatives, which must be aging out by now.
signpost[asciilifeform]: there's been a lot of twatter propaganda elevating e.g. arms manufacturer startups within the tech meme-o-sphere. big image revamp of that industry compared to the cheney days.
signpost[asciilifeform]: musk is certainly a big arms dealer himself. the psyop that we don't have maneuverable hypersonic missiles is hysterical. what the fuck are his rockets?
signpost[asciilifeform]: to my mind the empire gets to rebrand military industrial complex as "tech" if/when trump comes back in.
signpost[asciilifeform]: masterful if that's what's happening.
signpost[asciilifeform]: thiel (palantir), palmer luckey (anduril)
billymg[asciilifeform]: the tldr of that link is basically that the deepstate now likes btc because http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2024-03-02#1032585
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2024-03-02 21:05:31 signpost: because another hypothesis is that BTC does a fine job murdering weaker fiats and dollarizing them. e.g. Argentina
signpost[asciilifeform]: billymg: yep, fine way to tax the plebs, much less risky than holding tech/war stonks.
signpost[asciilifeform]: they'll continue to print scrip, thus taxing everyone trapped in it and pumping the bags of those who aren't.
signpost[asciilifeform]: we were always imagining the world where btc is the currency, rather than what supplants NVDA, TSLA, GOOG, etc
billymg[asciilifeform]: "Dollar-backed stablecoins are arriving as “an important net purchaser of U.S. government debt,” with stablecoin issuers now the 18th largest holder of US Debt"
billymg[asciilifeform]: "Ryan goes on to say that “if fiat-backed dollar stablecoin issuers were a country,” that nation “would sit just outside the top 10 in countries holding Treasurys,” still less than Hong Kong but “larger than Saudi Arabia,” our former partner in the petrodollar system. "
signpost[asciilifeform]: mhm, much better dollar sink idea than "carbon credits"
billymg[asciilifeform]: that, combined with policing the on/off ramps and making users go through stable coins, is supposed to keep the usd afloat for a few more decades
signpost[asciilifeform]: print more dogshit, invent more fake flows to sop the excess
billymg[asciilifeform]: yup, pretty awesome though if you're in the 0.01%
bitbot[asciilifeform]: (asciilifeform) 2020-12-17 billymg: re: discussion of the elite and bitcoin, has it been discussed yet that perhaps the elite decided that allowing the 0.01% of the world pop capable of getting their hands on some coin (and managing to keep it) to join their ranks was not actually such a bad thing?
billymg[asciilifeform]: also from that article: "Upcoming regulation like Basel III will require companies with large amounts of bitcoin on the balance sheet to hold considerable amounts of dollars to offset what are still considered liabilities according to the US banking regulation."
billymg[asciilifeform]: "In fact, a recent bill was just vetoed by Biden at the start of June 2024 that “targeted the SEC’s Staff Accounting Bulletin 121,” which “presents guidance around how banks can handle customers’ crypto assets” and in effect prevented the re-designation of crypto assets held by banks from their current liabilit
billymg[asciilifeform]: imo a very interesting article, goes into the history and structure of VISA as the first "decentralized" corporation, which was new to me, and the expose on Endeavor as a means of colonizing latin america via "entrepreneurship" -- would recommend a read
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2024-07-21#1033647 << asciilifeform lulld, recalling the casares d00d, then sees him in fact featured in linked piece
asciilifeform: luly 'elite' where there's a sumbody-else-sumwhere 'holding elite's coin' eh
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2024-07-21#1033659 << lizards, helps to remember, aint lizards because they profitably hodl/trade xyz asset -- but rather in reverse
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2024-07-21 16:58:56 billymg: yup, pretty awesome though if you're in the 0.01%
asciilifeform: ( see oblig mp... )
dulapbot: (trilema) 2015-03-05 mircea_popescu: if you are one of the people buying belgian rubber concessions on the stock exchanges, you make money. if you're in africa, you make quick with the hands and feet.
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2024-07-21#1033642 << if musk is baking'em, they rather visibly aint the ones publicly exhibited (these -- of the barely-maneuverable-at-walking-speed i.e. during landing - variety)
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2024-07-21 16:28:41 signpost[jonsykkel]: musk is certainly a big arms dealer himself. the psyop that we don't have maneuverable hypersonic missiles is hysterical. what the fuck are his rockets?
asciilifeform: musk's public rocket -- revival of the space scuttle scam ('reusable', 'ecologic' etc spy sat deployment platform, to replace the sad sack of boondoggle of 1980s)
asciilifeform: ('hypersonic maneuverable' item is the 1 manauverable ~at~ hypersonic v)
asciilifeform: these^ have the characteristic triangular shape, rather than '1930s sf' hogs
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2024-07-21#1033641 << afaik still have 'the 2 cultures', i.e. east coast dodware (lockheed, raytheon, et al) vs west coast nsaware (shiticon valley set)
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2024-07-21 16:27:46 signpost[jonsykkel]: there's been a lot of twatter propaganda elevating e.g. arms manufacturer startups within the tech meme-o-sphere. big image revamp of that industry compared to the cheney days.
asciilifeform: they don't afaik directly fight over moolah (the former eats directly off congressional appropriations, the latter -- directly off printola via andresen h etc)
asciilifeform: only 'western' set needs public agitation, twatter astroturf, legions of disposable programmers paid in 'equity', etc
asciilifeform: 'eastern' is simply funded by decree, 2-3 decades (!) in advance
asciilifeform: 'we'll be in the saddle, whether the democrats, republicans, or lesbians are in the white house' -- family phriend of asciilifeform's, when tried to convince the latter to work in 1 of said hells with him
asciilifeform: nsaware imho 'is ascendant' presently simply from the fact that it is factually the daily locomotive of the reich, such as it is. i.e. used erryday. vs the eastern wunderwaffen, which largely 'used' as 'fleet in being' (i.e. carefully avoid being used, and when not avoided -- public circus, e.g. the orcland misadventures o
asciilifeform: f 'patriot' rocket battery)
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