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copypaste: i passed the shittest that is figuring out how to connect to this irc server, i'm here
copypaste: lmfao
mats: welcome back sir
copypaste: GOOGLERS THE PASSWORD TO 205.134.172.3 IS 115200 THAT IS THE BAUD RATE OF asciilifeform'S PRODUCT, ```fuckgoats''', WHICH WAS FOR SALE ON <http://nosuchlabs.com>
copypaste: mats: greetings
mats: what does the illustrious hotwheels do these days
copypaste: don't deadname me mats
copypaste: my WoT name is also copypaste lmfao
copypaste: how new are you
copypaste: god ARE ANY of you actually really from way before mircea died
copypaste: or not
copypaste: i found this place thanks to danielpbarron who doesnt even seem to be on
mats: every nick in here predates the drowning
copypaste: good to know
copypaste: that's a start !
copypaste: anyway, the Most Serene Republic is my favorite internet cult and i'm glad it's still around. as far as internet cults go y'all are weird but harmless weird. well, i mean, with Mircea dead y'all seem harmless these days. no one is putting bounties on the heads of BTC core devs right? that's over?
mats: the power rangers won the day
mats: no point fighting last decade's battles again
copypaste: good, sound logic
copypaste: i have a bone to pick with BingoBoingo
copypaste: a brittle bone, perhaps. or a big bone! a big brittle bone?
copypaste: let's not worry about that now
copypaste: you put me in the WoT as having """rolled the other way"""
copypaste: i am clearly here BingoBoingo
copypaste: therefore that's false
copypaste: please rescind this libel
copypaste: thank you
mats: i lied, there's actually a buncha new names in here
mats: totally forgot
mats: nice guys though
copypaste: lmao it's okay
copypaste: i figured as much
mats: i had no idea you'd become even more famous in your own right
copypaste: oh thank you, you're too kind
copypaste: copypaste.wtf foundation.mfek.org github.com/ctrlcctrlv
copypaste: for my latest work. also i'm posting about this on twitter as @fr_brennan
mats: oh christ
mats: afk
copypaste: why the cold feet
copypaste: !q seen BingoBoingo
dulapbot: BingoBoingo last seen here on 2022-09-10 10:53:51: Assume narrow escapes. Hardware forfeit as abandoned seems a safe and far assumption. Brain may not be what it used to. Not much more than trying to build life outside of Mars dome restrictions after having spent 2013-2019 endomed
copypaste: i actually like the idea of the fuckgoats
copypaste: i want to pay for another production run
copypaste: so i can have one
copypaste: asciilifeform: maybe you are kind of cool despite this hugbox irc server that's hard to enter
mats: i have a few fg in a box if you really want one
copypaste: i do!
copypaste: just the one, but i do want a fuckgoats, it looks really cool
copypaste: i am imagining another device now, have you ever played boggle?
mats: it'll cost you a bitcent
copypaste: ~$223 at current. can i talk you down at all by playing the cripple card, it legitimately would nt be easy for me to follow the schematics
mats: my cripple card cancels out your cripple card
copypaste: also i will surely post about hwo it works on my twitter, where it came from (not you personally duh but like, this community), what it is etc, perhaps renewing interest
copypaste: what is your disability
mats: i'd rather not discuss it now, its in the logs
copypaste: keyword?
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-25 15:53:02 mats: hes also a cripple
mats: keyword dongs
mats: have you heard of talon voice my broke dick friend
copypaste: ah i have actually i was just marveling at how rude some people were to me in these logs
copypaste: lmao
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-14 01:23:28 vex: you're a head in a wheelchair
copypaste: vex: say that to the head, he's here
mats: lol
copypaste: oh wat
copypaste: you're not good enough at irc to even idle
copypaste: lmao
mats: he has his moments
copypaste: oh wait **
copypaste: talon voice! yes i have heard of. great project.
copypaste: Congratulations!
copypaste: You're now a patron of aegis
copypaste: thanks for the reminder
copypaste: kicked him $400/mo
mats: good shit
mats: he's about 80k in the hole on talon, after donations accounted for
copypaste: wow really
copypaste: tell him to contact me
mats: guy's a saint
copypaste: if he wants i could give him a real grant from foundation.mfek.org
mats: he's a busy guy, you contact him
copypaste: well you don't really know him then ok
copypaste: i misunderstood your associatio
copypaste: no, i'll wait for him to see my donation and contact if he's in need
mats: i'm just another fella who donates and idles in the talon slack
mats: and uses the product
mats: k, i told him
mats: thank you for your donation my friend
copypaste: oh and regarding the fuckgoats
copypaste: yes mats
copypaste: i will take it
copypaste: at your price, but i still think you should bring it down given i just supported that project, but if you are hellbent on the hgh price then that's fine lol
mats: what a manipulator you are
mats: send me a pgpgram with the dest mailing addr and its yours gratis
mats: privmsg + pastebin would be ideal
copypaste: mats: mircea didn't first talk to me due to the merchant of venice for nothing
copypaste: or at least first write an entire blog based on my offhand comments
copypaste: that man was something else
copypaste: i miss him a lot , his antics amused and disgusted me for so many years, not ahving him around is sad
copypaste: and asciilifeform doesn't seem nearly as amusing (although he's trying). he's just *Mircea imitatio* not *Mircea in omnibus sed nomen*
asciilifeform: copypaste: is interesting that you thought asciilifeform's www 'imitation of mp's' ( pre-dates the latter by some years, and not even overlaps in subject... )
asciilifeform: copypaste: do we know ea. other from somewhere ?
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-09-13#1113563 << some of the ~people~ still around ( tho mostly live here naodays rather than in #a.) regret to inform that mp's reich is kaput ( and yr+ before fuhrer himself kaput ) , see #t logs if interested.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-09-13 00:07:45 copypaste: anyway, the Most Serene Republic is my favorite internet cult and i'm glad it's still around. as far as internet cults go y'all are weird but harmless weird. well, i mean, with Mircea dead y'all seem harmless these days. no one is putting bounties on the heads of BTC core devs right? that's over?
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-09-13#1113591 << ask dpb (unless, loox like, already got 1 from mats ?)
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-09-13 00:21:27 copypaste: so i can have one
asciilifeform: there were exactly 200 sold, they aint an unobtainable rarity lol
asciilifeform rather curious for wat copypaste needed a FG
asciilifeform: fwiw the docs/schematics still up on www, who wants, can make own
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-09-13#1113551 << lol is already mentioned over9000 times in log ( was it really at all hard to find ? )
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-09-13 00:03:07 copypaste: GOOGLERS THE PASSWORD TO 205.134.172.3 IS 115200 THAT IS THE BAUD RATE OF asciilifeform'S PRODUCT, ```fuckgoats''', WHICH WAS FOR SALE ON <http://nosuchlabs.com>
copypaste: asciilifeform: all i want is someone who can rise up to take mircea popescu, that great man's, place. a person who can make me laugh so hard i near piss myself by threatening a bitcoin developer with death ovr a minor af technical dispute then in the next breath claim it's not a real threat as the 1BTC value had at the time a low fiat cost. seeing as you talk so similar to
copypaste: mp… and are already trying to place yourself earlier in time than him, you may be a candidate yet!
copypaste: but i am indeed sorry if i somehow misunderstand your place in the mirceaverse. perhaps you do predate him!
copypaste: perhaps he ripped you off even! i don't really know as i dunno you
copypaste: i knew mircea and trilema not really much else and followed his antics for years
copypaste: i would say that you strike me as being like Mircea because you treat your activities with the same pomp and circumstance which has all the makings of a good time
copypaste: The Most Serene Republic - it seems - does live in
asciilifeform: copypaste: we had a collaboration re irons/softs, '13--'18, 'no such labs'; if curious how/why, see log
copypaste: will do when i have a moment but im more interested in the presen
copypaste: how did you become de facto leader?
copypaste: i mean, this channel bears your name
copypaste: am i welcome here even tho i have paid a nominal sum for a meme "improvement" to Monero?
copypaste: (vanity addresses - for a privacy coin!)
asciilifeform: copypaste: this chan was originally on freenode, when mp suggested that folx open spares for #t, long before demise of s.nsa
asciilifeform: copypaste: after asciilifeform split from mp, various folx joined ( some to discuss projs where asciilifeform involved, others from idle curiosity , plus some n00bs over time )
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-14 23:49:14 asciilifeform: cdd: if yer impatient, here's an mp flunkie's 'interview' of asciilifeform following the latter's expulsion from mp's imaginary empire
copypaste: thank you. now regarding why i wanted a fuckgoats. i like the idea of it. i understand why you made it, i think, as well.
copypaste: cpu's are pwned, right? by the actual NSA, not S.NSA.
asciilifeform: most of the conversation on pestnet naodays
copypaste: there is an intel backdoor
asciilifeform: copypaste: + amd's psp boobytrap, + whatever undoc'd. kilometres of thrd re subj in logs
copypaste: so i get it
asciilifeform: FG does't save you from cpu boobytrap tho, it is only a rng
copypaste: true
copypaste: that's only reason i wanted it, as i think it's cool, to show normal people you made it to counter what you saw as corrupt system. of course other measures such as faraday cage i assume would be needed to trust that the cpu doesn't tamper with the fuckgoats.
copypaste: (i.e. it can't receive command and control commands to do the tamper)
copypaste: and using a sufficiently old CPU
copypaste: perhaps one from pre-bitcoin
asciilifeform: a reasonable rng is 'part of balanced diet'
copypaste: or pre-internet! why not, the baud rate is low enough
asciilifeform: indeed worx w/ old (e.g. msdos) irons, asciilifeform used.
copypaste: yes it's a cool idea
copypaste: i can see why mp was threatened by you lol
asciilifeform: (you'll need a ttl->rs232 converter)
copypaste: i'll acquire what i need and document the process of using it, should be fun. i'm gong to call it "This is what being your own bank actually means"
copypaste: you should be aware tho i mostly make fonts these days. http://copypaste.wtf
asciilifeform: copypaste: asciilifeform attempted to commercialize FG at mp's invitation, the latter thought there was a market for civilized iron. after several yrs became obv. that there aint a market in any real sense.
copypaste: oh i have no interest in making a large profit. i mostly do these things for fun
copypaste: there's no great profit in making compuer fonts either
copypaste: i do it as i find it technically chalelnging / interesting
copypaste: there's certainly no profit at all in adding characters to Unicode but i'm directly responsible for more than 30 and indirectly for around 100 (and others are responsible for orders of magnitude more)
asciilifeform: copypaste: then mp decided to branch out into e.g. isp biz ( see logs re 'pizarro' ) , this blew up spectacularly, eventually touching off demise of mp's reich entirely
copypaste: well he was romanian
copypaste: ceausescu, popescu…
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-09-13#1113707 << the trouble with irons is that they cost considerable dough to offer.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-09-13 08:53:22 copypaste: there's no great profit in making compuer fonts either
copypaste: ah yes very true. such is the case with all tangible goods.
copypaste: if my fonts were made of iron i'm sure i'd have never made any
copypaste: i'm a fat cripple not a ripped businessjock so i couldn't even lift the lead casts lol
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-11 20:40:08 asciilifeform: phf: to 'break even', operation would've had not only to run BingoBoingo , but to cover the ~3k$/mo rack, the machines, resupply flights, (future) expansions, etc.
asciilifeform: and here, and elsewhere.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-26 15:33:18 asciilifeform: bonechewer: this as you can already see aint esp. difficult to build. problem will be similar to FG (which, or something like it, you in fact will need to include in each unit). you'll need to sell'em for 1k$+ to break even. (or, alternatively, 100$ but sell 1e6 units.)
copypaste: why is Pest IPv4 only?
asciilifeform: copypaste: ipv6 is halfbaked and historically bottomless well of 0days
copypaste: asciilifeform: if i can speak frankly, Mircea struck me as a highly gifted but also mentally challenged man who struck it very, very rich but due to his challenges often madea a fool of himself.
copypaste: despite this he did some good things. but also a lot of bad things. and mostly just funny things.
copypaste: some of the things he did were all three. in fact most.
asciilifeform: copypaste: folx who win spectacularly when young, very often contract megalomania and end very similarly to mp, this aint a seekrit of any kind
asciilifeform: asciilifeform aint specialist in psychoanalysis, however, of mp or otherwise, and fella spoke at length for himself ( his www is still up, maintained by fans , can read if you like )
copypaste: certainly. i just wanted to know if you see it as i did. i think you're technically gifted, thanks for letting me idle in your MSR v2. sorry i was unable to find the key at first lol. you expected perhaps a bit too much familiarity with yourself, but that's a simple error to make. after all my case was rare, wanting to join just to talk to people who knew mp back in teh day
copypaste: about him.
copypaste: and yes i refer to trilema.com a lot. i have favorite quotes fom it
copypaste: if you can, you must!
copypaste: the merchant of venice was actually just!
copypaste: nothing exists but trust!
copypaste: the true trilema ^
asciilifeform: copypaste: feel free to sit in #a if the current-day subjs interest you.
copypaste: they do!
copypaste: i will also figure out Pest
asciilifeform: asciilifeform still maintains trb, for instance.
copypaste: i don't fully understand your problems with ipv6 but will read the log and self-educate
asciilifeform: not all that much else from the old days tho
copypaste: ah yes i wantead to draw something to ur attention
copypaste: it's under Links: Tickets
asciilifeform: indeed, was broken even before
asciilifeform: orig. was link to a thing mod6 baked, but never took off
asciilifeform: ( he tried to make a work queue thing )
asciilifeform: that page does need some massage
asciilifeform: copypaste: if you read the pest article -- is actually good illustration of diff. b/w mp's philosophy of 'wat-do' and asciilifeform's
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-31 23:37:11 asciilifeform: mp went on for kilometres re 'effete codemonkey's bias in favour of buttonpressing solutions' but suffered equally idiotic 'meatmonkey's bias for 'manly'-flavoured solutions'
asciilifeform: orig. problem was 'net is heavily censored, incl. via ddos'. 2 possible answers, 'build isp, take over world so it stays connected' and 'layer new net on top of existing'.
asciilifeform: folx who take cocaine, tend to favour the former style of 'solution'.
dulapbot: Logged on 2020-02-04 22:14:39 asciilifeform: or, for that matter, his (admitted!) cocaine. imho still shows typical effects, even tho supposedly quit.
asciilifeform: ( see also re substance abuse, in both literal and metaphorical sense, in #t )
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-02-04 13:46:08 asciilifeform: mp was talented mountebank, a la barnum, and in #t maintained an addictive, to many folx, atmosphere of 'движуха' (untranslatable, but roughly 'errything in motion!!', 'happening!')
asciilifeform must bbl
copypaste: who will peer w/me?
copypaste: i believe i have it wokring right, this pest thing
copypaste: although thimbronion added quite an amusing antifeature
copypaste: passwords may not contain capital letters
copypaste: oh, well they indeed may, but will fail as incorrect
copypaste: blatta/lib/client.py @ line 105
copypaste: it lowercases the sent pw but not the server's pw given on argv
copypaste: lol what a funny bug
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-09-13#1113694 << ftr 2 key aspects of the design were : 1) FG doesn't receive commands from the connected comp at all, has only 3 wires (-, +, output) 2) the connected machine / os has nfi it's an rng, is simply a serial tty, only the operators knows that it is intended as rng
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-09-13 08:50:13 copypaste: (i.e. it can't receive command and control commands to do the tamper)
asciilifeform: ( this was wai asciilifeform considered various folx's efforts to integrate FG support into e.g. linux kernel, misguided )
asciilifeform: ( see also , asciilifeform's in-house name for this principle being 'specificity of diddling' )
dulapbot: (trilema) 2017-05-19 asciilifeform: the multiplication problem is incidentally a textbook instance of 'specificity of diddling'. if someone offered any of you a cpu that has a 'rsa instruction', you'd barf. because very clearly paints a target for the enemy, giving him info he has no business having re what you intend to eat, when, with what spoon
dulapbot: (trilema) 2017-06-30 asciilifeform: also nicely illustrates 'specificity of diddling'. you buy a bucket of 74xxxxolade. enemy wants to diddle'em en route -- but which ONES? and how ? ( he has nfi where each set of gates will end up going in the scheme )
dulapbot: (trilema) 2017-02-23 asciilifeform: veen: let's try a historical angle. according to legend, emperor qin shi huangdi (same d00d as known for taking the 'immortality pill' and promptly croaking) had a palace with 1,500 rooms. and would not tell anyone in advance which one he plans to sleep in on a given night. and which ones he would put cutthroats in, ready to kill anyone who opens door. think 'minesweeper.'
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-09-13#1113667 << nobody's aboutta 'replace mp' or concretely resurrect his reich, much of what he did was a product of ~unique combo of dysfunctions, stoked by pile of moolah in the style of h.hughes
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-09-13 08:39:02 copypaste: asciilifeform: all i want is someone who can rise up to take mircea popescu, that great man's, place. a person who can make me laugh so hard i near piss myself by threatening a bitcoin developer with death ovr a minor af technical dispute then in the next breath claim it's not a real threat as the 1BTC value had at the time a low fiat cost. seeing as you talk so similar to
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-31 23:12:16 asciilifeform: this is vehery common failure mode of 'look i'm rich' folx
asciilifeform: just as nobody 'replaced' hughes, or e.g. armand hammer
mats: his son armie hammer has shared interests with mp though
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