asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot[asciilifeform|signpost]: Current BTC price in USD: $21138.33
awt[asciilifeform|signpost|billymg]: asciilifeform: presumably we want to support unicode handles?
asciilifeform: awt: asciilifeform much opposed to unicode handles, see spec re why
awt[asciilifeform|billymg|signpost]: asciilifeform: oh ok makes sense.
awt[asciilifeform|signpost|billymg]: currently will likely crash your station
asciilifeform: hmm there's no trap for rubbish in handles atm ?
awt[asciilifeform|signpost|billymg]: asciilifeform: no. Will simply fail to decode to ascii
asciilifeform: right but why crash
asciilifeform: fail to decode -> ignore , is how oughta be
awt[asciilifeform|signpost|billymg]: Shouldn't crash, obv
awt[asciilifeform|signpost|billymg]: As the cod is now, no way to conveniently ignore DIRECT or BROADCAST messages
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: Will have to think about it
asciilifeform: in general, an ill-formatted msg oughta have same effect as a martian. i.e. 0
asciilifeform: awt: lulzy that there aint any way of forcing unicode strings to be visually distinct. but apparently fact.
bitbot: Logged on 2022-06-13 17:29:48 signpost: kraken ceo at least seems ideologically palatable, but I admit he's one guy likely to be digested and shat by the empire.
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-06-15#1006889 << btw you can simply check if ea. byte falls into the prescribed range; no need to call py's decode thing
bitbot: Logged on 2022-06-15 21:39:10 awt[asciilifeform|signpost|billymg]: asciilifeform: no. Will simply fail to decode to ascii
signpost: billymg: yeah, jesse seems alright.
asciilifeform: signpost: asciilifeform not familiar with subj; how so that 'alright', but then 'likely to be digested & shat' ?
signpost: well he's mortal. they can always kill him if nothing else sticks.
billymg: asciilifeform: 'likely to be digested and shat' because 'alright', isn't that how it always works?
asciilifeform: signpost: afaik not possible for 'honest man' to run a gox, given as it interfaces w/ reichbanks and will regularly receive 'national seekroority letters' and other decrees which require it to lie to users
asciilifeform: and given that hasn't yet been killed... tertium non datur, neh
signpost: I do not hold him to the standard of "fella can't even process payments for arms deals with north korea".
asciilifeform: what from signpost's pov is the standard for 'acceptable gox' , outta curiosity ?
signpost: I can get company store credits into the thing reliably, coin to 1-addy out, and have L1 sitting within the thing which gives me some amount of confidence re: solvency.
asciilifeform: would expect that one still demands meatspace name, postage addr, passports, etc. ? (or no?)
asciilifeform: (any remain which don't?)
signpost: yep, demands imprint of ballsack in triplicate like they all do.
asciilifeform not looked into subj in rather long time
billymg: asciilifeform: gotta file paperwork to buy gun in US too, does that mean it's better to never buy a gun?
asciilifeform: billymg: in most of usa can still buy w/ greens from human
billymg: and btc as well
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: ( gun in particular bought through Official process has well-understood minus, lol )
asciilifeform: rather similar to coin ditto
billymg: so question becomes, better to have registered btc/firearm, or none at all?
signpost doesn't plan to shoot pigs or avoid income tax any time soon.
billymg: assuming you can't get the qty you want from wot-market
signpost: either getting out of this shitty country in a few years, or I expect things to be so unstable paperwork has nothing to do with whether a badged thug comes looking for my valuables.
asciilifeform: if can only get Officially-registered putty knife, 'better than nuffin' obv.
asciilifeform: esp if quickly 'lost in boat trip'
asciilifeform: in asciilifeform's pov, 90% of the whole pt of btc tho is that nobody has any biz knowing how much you have
asciilifeform: ( granted, often enuff someone can guess , and easily infer that it aint 0, but can't wire ~everyone~ to 220v all of the time )
asciilifeform must bbl
signpost: well, that's the trouble with doing business in company store credits in the first place.
billymg: asciilifeform: it's this "can't wire everyone to 220v" that makes the kraken model effective (even if not ideal)
bitbot: Logged on 2022-06-15 23:08:20 signpost: I can get company store credits into the thing reliably, coin to 1-addy out, and have L1 sitting within the thing which gives me some amount of confidence re: solvency.
signpost: but I'll need the inflation haven of bitcoin to keep my time free enough to make the other thing happen.
billymg: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-06-15#1006931 << this too. even if find someone in-wot to transact with, how to you handle the fiat side (for anything more than play amounts)?
bitbot: Logged on 2022-06-15 23:22:27 signpost: well, that's the trouble with doing business in company store credits in the first place.
signpost: https://www.tradingview.com/x/fqddUVRi/ << it still does a great job of that on the longest scales, especially if you buy during winter.
signpost: billymg: you pay for your cult leader's industrial barrels of butt lube.
billymg: signpost: lol, but i'd say even then it was a different world. i'd imagine in 2022 if tried to wire to mp it'd be "who you wiring that money to, and for what?"
signpost: yeah, probably
asciilifeform: billymg: funnily enuff never 1ce had a problem wiring to mp
asciilifeform: ( was doin' it just shortly up to the 'end days' )
asciilifeform: d00d was a++ coin vendor.
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-06-15#1006938 << was moar or less that iirc
bitbot: Logged on 2022-06-15 23:26:13 signpost: billymg: you pay for your cult leader's industrial barrels of butt lube.
asciilifeform: fwiw no one ever demanded 'for wat'
asciilifeform: ( possibly magick # for that , was > x ; nfi )
asciilifeform still regularly sends fiatola wires, no one once asked 'why', goxen are factually over9000x ~moar~ fascist than fiatola banks...!
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-06-15#1006937 << wat's the ln marked in blue there ?
bitbot: Logged on 2022-06-15 23:25:27 signpost: https://www.tradingview.com/x/fqddUVRi/ << it still does a great job of that on the longest scales, especially if you buy during winter.