awt[asciilifeform]: Discovered an edge case blatta doesn't handle due to only issuing GetData once per orphan.
awt[asciilifeform]: Particularly effects poorly connected l2 stations.
awt[asciilifeform]: I think this explains the "stuttering" syncs often seen with newly connected stations.
awt[asciilifeform]: !!ticker btc usd
deedbot[asciilifeform]: $25,514
awt[asciilifeform]: imagine selling btc on shitcoins getting crushed
PeterL[asciilifeform]: shitcoins are shit, news at 11
asciilifeform: waterfall never runs outta water, noose at 11
awt[asciilifeform]: asciilifeform: price has significantly increased (even vs. inflation) since you published the waterfall theory.
awt[asciilifeform]: And can't point to 2017 high, gotta take into account moving averages.
lobbes[asciilifeform]: https://archive.is/dt6PF#selection-1895.1-1895.49 << anyone else here think that these "ex-military UFO whistleblower" reports are, themselves, just a disinformation campaign?
lobbes[asciilifeform]: I.e. business-as-usual military R&D activity, with obfuscation powered by leveraging a population (including said ex-military whistleblowers) inculcated by hollywood to have latent "little green men" beliefs
awt[asciilifeform]: I haven't looked into any of them
asciilifeform: lobbes: see e.g. re ufology
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-02-12 12:53:58 asciilifeform[5]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-02-12#1023036 << popularity of 'ufology' does appear to track 'reich wants to distract and corral political unreliables' 'temperature'
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-06-16 asciilifeform: 'we maybe found martians' seems to get run whenever 'need noose distraction, and the arrange-postals dept. is slow'
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-06-06#1026741 << this is a phakt: orig. waterfall did not suffice to keep lid on exchrate. hence waterfall 2.0, with paperization.
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-06-06 10:35:05 awt: asciilifeform: price has significantly increased (even vs. inflation) since you published the waterfall theory.
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-02-17 13:40:24 asciilifeform[jonsykkel|awt|deedbot]: signpost: 'they'll ban goxes! finally!' imho is an unattainable dream. goxes are the key instrument of paperization and exchrate control.
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-01-19 asciilifeform: the reason why various 2010s 'they'll ban goxes!' prognoses (incl. asciilifeform's) came to nuffin, is that turns out goxes are a very effective instrument of exchrate control, and therefore quite valuable to the reich.
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-06-05#1026700 << notsure wat the difficulty is -- 1st msg from given handle on given heathen portal will have null selfchain (just as a new pest station would); netchain will be whatever the prev msg is (or null is the bot is new)
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-06-05 18:16:09 phf[jonsykkel|awt]: also you can use netchain for responding to individual hearsay messages from fake peers presented by the proxy station, but you can't initiate a conversation that way. the first message will have nothing to hang off
asciilifeform: *if the bot
lobbes[asciilifeform]: asciilifeform: aha ty for log links re: ufology subject. fwiw I've added 'three-body problem' to my long 'intend to read' list
lobbes[asciilifeform]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-06-06#1026745 << my personal meatwot has a few dedicated "I want to believe (TM)" types, so I end up coming across such articles / interviews frequently.
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-06-06 11:56:47 awt: I haven't looked into any of them
lobbes[asciilifeform] does find such psyops fascinating; starting to understand how the lack of teaching proper rhetoric in US schools lubricates this process
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2021-01-18 asciilifeform: this is where 50+y of crippling ameri-education pays off for'em. the victims are unable to reject elementarily unphysical poppycock, follow simple syllogisms, etc
signpost[asciilifeform]: I assume this involves some drone-based spoofing platform they have, trying to create the cover story that it's aliens whenever we're flying it in enemy territory.
signpost[asciilifeform]: I have no doubt there's alien life out there, and also have no doubt that human narcissism would vastly overestimate how interesting we are.
signpost[asciilifeform]: why the fuck would something be capable of step-function velocity changes, yet crash due to what, bad weather?
signpost[asciilifeform]: most entertaining interpretation I can concoct is that antigrav was cracked decades ago, and the breakaway civilization is going to cull the planet of eaters soon.
signpost[asciilifeform]: or hell, suppose the things are alien, but they're mindless drones just taking a refueling sip of our ocean. that was my favorite thing about Rendezvous with Rama, that the alien object was completely indifferent to us.
asciilifeform: crash from bad weather, but somehow only in usa and only in desert near usaf bases etc lol
asciilifeform: ( at one time 'ufo' used to regularly 'carsh' in su, but then they switched spy sats from film canisters, that had to be dropped, to digital, and 'ufo stopped' )
asciilifeform: *crash
phf: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2023-06-06#1027163 << if you have friend "joe" in telegram, you can send message to joe only if he's ever spoken, by relying on his netchain, but you can't initiate communication, because nothing to hang it off
dulapbot: Logged on 2023-06-06 13:11:38 asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-06-05#1026700 << notsure wat the difficulty is -- 1st msg from given handle on given heathen portal will have null selfchain (just as a new pest station would); netchain will be whatever the prev msg is (or null is the bot is new)
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-06-05 18:16:09 phf[jonsykkel|awt]: also you can use netchain for responding to individual hearsay messages from fake peers presented by the proxy station, but you can't initiate a conversation that way. the first message will have nothing to hang off
asciilifeform: phf: a, is the notion to somehow send a priv msg (or its equiv.) via a bot which hangs off both nets ?
dulapbot: Logged on 2023-06-06 19:27:08 asciilifeform: phf: a, is the notion to somehow send a priv msg (or its equiv.) via a bot which hangs off both nets ?
asciilifeform: phf: unless i misunderstand, this (i.e. asking a bot to send a privmsg on some other net, but 'pestronically') aint sumthing that pest protocol per se is a tight fit for -- you'd need to layer some command lang on top of direct msgs to $bot
asciilifeform: ... bot would then know where (i.e. to you) to send replies from that net, similarly as direct msg (presumably containing handle of that party on the heathen net)