(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: have a phree cheap&angry translation of yer thing : 'if there be one who earned a dismal fate / and must a frightful punishment await / condemn him not to fiery smithy's hearth / nor to the miner's toils beneath the earth / to scholar's book let him instead be bound / for every kind of pain is therein found. '
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: if you read n.stephenson's 'anathem' -- the penal 'book' from same
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: i've a cl serpent, from while back, but not cycles to do anyffin useful w/it presently
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: possibly signpost might help, iirc he did hard time in java mines not so many yrs ago
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: wb gregorynyssa
(asciilifeform) thimbronion: hi gregorynyssa
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-14 12:39:10 gregorynyssa: "mens supra materiam"
(asciilifeform) shinohai: >in b4 verisimilitudes shows up to correct gregorynyssa's Latin ......
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: !q seen gregorynyssa
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: wb gregorynyssa !
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2020-08-12 13:04:27 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: it long ago went from 'mistake, like leaded petrol' to deliberate 'job-creating tech' fraud.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-05-24 17:09:05 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: re self-rule -- j.c. scott, 'the art of not being governed'. mandatory reading on subj.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-04-22 18:13:08 gregorynyssa: the central aim of British upper-class boarding schools is to teach such traditions, principles, and manners as to promote solidarity among the upper class.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-05-24 18:38:57 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: familiar with inca empire? and phrase 'palace economy' ?
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2020-10-01 15:00:29 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: there's not a thing that'd rise to the level of 'plan'. asciilifeform in particular wrote 3 things: 'nqb', a largely-complete coder/decoder for the formats used in trb; ffa, with which possible to perform the cryptonumerics; and 'cryostat', to implement a o(1) db .
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2020-10-01 15:00:29 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: there's not a thing that'd rise to the level of 'plan'. asciilifeform in particular wrote 3 things: 'nqb', a largely-complete coder/decoder for the formats used in trb; ffa, with which possible to perform the cryptonumerics; and 'cryostat', to implement a o(1) db .
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2020-10-01 15:00:29 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: there's not a thing that'd rise to the level of 'plan'. asciilifeform in particular wrote 3 things: 'nqb', a largely-complete coder/decoder for the formats used in trb; ffa, with which possible to perform the cryptonumerics; and 'cryostat', to implement a o(1) db .
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-05-24 17:15:36 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: i picked up quigley and was not impressed. much dead forest, very little said.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-21 17:27:23 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: hypothetically solves ddosism (you can build, hypothetically, a device which forwards only validly-signed packets at GB/s)
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-10 10:09:26 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: successful paperization requires the paper-buying chumps to perceive it as 'just as good or better than real thing'. e.g. paper gold/btc/etc can be leveraged (can borrow against it and allow it to auto-liquidate if margin called).
(asciilifeform) thimbronion: Of possible interest: received some packets from gregorynyssa's pest station. Successfully decrypted but there's an issue with timestamps. My station seems to think his packets are stale.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: !!key gregorynyssa
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2020-10-01 15:00:29 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: there's not a thing that'd rise to the level of 'plan'. asciilifeform in particular wrote 3 things: 'nqb', a largely-complete coder/decoder for the formats used in trb; ffa, with which possible to perform the cryptonumerics; and 'cryostat', to implement a o(1) db .
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2020-10-01 15:00:29 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: there's not a thing that'd rise to the level of 'plan'. asciilifeform in particular wrote 3 things: 'nqb', a largely-complete coder/decoder for the formats used in trb; ffa, with which possible to perform the cryptonumerics; and 'cryostat', to implement a o(1) db .
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-10 10:09:26 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: successful paperization requires the paper-buying chumps to perceive it as 'just as good or better than real thing'. e.g. paper gold/btc/etc can be leveraged (can borrow against it and allow it to auto-liquidate if margin called).
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-05-01 16:12:09 gregorynyssa: I noticed a distrubing trend that when people say they value "Western traditional thought" without qualification, they basically just mean that they are huge fans of Thomas Carlyle.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2020-10-01 15:00:29 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: there's not a thing that'd rise to the level of 'plan'. asciilifeform in particular wrote 3 things: 'nqb', a largely-complete coder/decoder for the formats used in trb; ffa, with which possible to perform the cryptonumerics; and 'cryostat', to implement a o(1) db .
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2020-10-01 15:00:29 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: there's not a thing that'd rise to the level of 'plan'. asciilifeform in particular wrote 3 things: 'nqb', a largely-complete coder/decoder for the formats used in trb; ffa, with which possible to perform the cryptonumerics; and 'cryostat', to implement a o(1) db .
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: (alethepedia) 2020-12-04 thimbronion: gregorynyssa: My sources are all second hand, referenced mainly in podcasts like Freedomain radio. He references and interviews several IQ researchers.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-04-22 18:13:08 gregorynyssa: the central aim of British upper-class boarding schools is to teach such traditions, principles, and manners as to promote solidarity among the upper class.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-28 11:11:39 gregorynyssa: asciilifeform: so IRC protocol requires network-graph to be undirected + acyclical. that explains a lot.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 10:05:17 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: i admit that i will not be greatly astonished if he were to turn up alive at some point. like just about errything else he had done in life, this could readily be another elaborate, heavily intellectualized ego-pumping scam.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: BingoBoingo gregorynyssa shinohai and possibly others ^
(asciilifeform) whaack: gregorynyssa: yes i think it's repeated trauma against the ribbcage
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-30 18:12:10 whaack: gregorynyssa: well i will pray to odin that my ailment magically dissapears forever like yours did
(asciilifeform) whaack: gregorynyssa: well i will pray to odin that my ailment magically dissapears forever like yours did
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-30 18:01:01 whaack: gregorynyssa: My first episode appeared out of nowhere, or at least i don't remember what triggered it, the second (current) episode happened after a specific action.
(asciilifeform) whaack: gregorynyssa: My first episode appeared out of nowhere, or at least i don't remember what triggered it, the second (current) episode happened after a specific action.
(asciilifeform) whaack: gregorynyssa: do you recall the first moment of pain?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: nobody but maniacs 'talks like this', lol
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: elaborate statefulness sucks, there's gotta be a cleaner solution.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: how so? i.e. can you use a standard ircd w/ such item ? (how?)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: you do understand how this aint irc nomoar, but new protocol, right?
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-27 17:12:08 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1041039 << any experience with Unity or Unreal? I was thinking of trying the latter.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 06:15:07 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1040941 << Mircea and Popescu are both common names in Romania. it might not be the same person.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 06:12:16 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1040948 << Curtis Yarvin served this role for me. I ultimately did not agree with most of his views, but he helped me by exposing the propaganda of others.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-27 06:12:16 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-27#1040948 << Curtis Yarvin served this role for me. I ultimately did not agree with most of his views, but he helped me by exposing the propaganda of others.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-27 10:05:17 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: i admit that i will not be greatly astonished if he were to turn up alive at some point. like just about errything else he had done in life, this could readily be another elaborate, heavily intellectualized ego-pumping scam.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: i admit that i will not be greatly astonished if he were to turn up alive at some point. like just about errything else he had done in life, this could readily be another elaborate, heavily intellectualized ego-pumping scam.
(asciilifeform) thimbronion: Looks like gregorynyssa connected to the net and killed us.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: or how about where the thing disconnects machine operator rather than peers
(asciilifeform) signpost: gregorynyssa perhaps try putting hub_mask = "*"; in your connect blocks
(asciilifeform) signpost: btw thimbronion it appears I have lost my connection to gregorynyssa when I achieved one with your server
(asciilifeform) signpost: blah! I added descriptions on my end and yep, paired up with gregorynyssa now
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-22 20:45:00 gregorynyssa: it parses the SERVER command as "SERVER $1 $2 $3" but sends it as "SERVER $1 $2 :"
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2020-08-22 14:14:33 gregorynyssa: asciilifeform: suppose we don't use any FPGA. suppose you directly owned a fabrication-facility and could perform your own runs on whim. how low does the process-width have to be, for it to be worth your time?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: i'm aware
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-22 21:30:09 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: btw mine's 3.0.9 and i thought it was latest
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-23 06:33:22 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-22#1040501 << the original "ircd" was written by a Finnish man surnamed Oikarinen.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: btw mine's 3.0.9 and i thought it was latest
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-22 20:45:00 gregorynyssa: it parses the SERVER command as "SERVER $1 $2 $3" but sends it as "SERVER $1 $2 :"
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: abstractly, yes, i want a vgenesis of ~a~ usable, for this application, item. is 'ratbox' shortest path to this? nfi currently
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: possibly. but strictly if it can be made to pass basic smoke tests, and behave minimally sanely.
(asciilifeform) thimbronion: gregorynyssa and I stumbled across an error message: ....Z...:gregory.nyssa 461 * SERVER :Not enough parameters
(asciilifeform) thimbronion: Also note that although there are two connect clauses, neither are working. I don't believe signpost has added the connect clause I sent him yet, but I've been coordinating with gregorynyssa and not had any luck connecting with him based on the connect clause he sent me.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: hypothetically solves ddosism (you can build, hypothetically, a device which forwards only validly-signed packets at GB/s)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: ostensibly to kill lag-zombies
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-21 17:00:33 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: 'unreal' won't accept a JOIN before it emits some crapola ack'ing USER
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: 'unreal' won't accept a JOIN before it emits some crapola ack'ing USER
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: i use irssi fwiw. but again not what the thrd is about, i dun recall anyone looking for rec for new irc client.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: notyet, i suspect it's a salted hash at most
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: unfortunately even this turned out was not a complete description, there are various idiocies pertaining to particular ircd implementation which in practice matter.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: not simply 'minimal', but actually decentralized.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: i rec to read entire 18 june log, if you want to make sense of all of this.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-21 16:34:02 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: atm under discussion is simply subset of ancient irc.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: atm under discussion is simply subset of ancient irc.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-21 15:27:26 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-21#1040312 << maybe we can ask suckless.org if they have any recommendations.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-21 14:07:54 trinque: gregorynyssa: mind pasting your whole config for me with the passwords removed?
(asciilifeform) trinque: gregorynyssa: mind pasting your whole config for me with the passwords removed?
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-20 16:42:15 gregorynyssa: signpost: I made some revisions to the configuration-file. please try again.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-20 09:49:47 gregorynyssa: asciilifeform: trinque: this should be my connection-stanza, encrypted and signed: https://pastebin.com/raw/sTKdp7Q6
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: notice, trinque asked for 'GPG signed-and-encrypted comment'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: loox like you beat me to the finish. but you will need to make a new set of pw, and do this again: you put it up in plaintext...
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-19 12:12:34 signpost: heh, hopefully gregorynyssa checks the logs soon and joins us.
(asciilifeform) signpost: heh, hopefully gregorynyssa checks the logs soon and joins us.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-18 16:47:29 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: 'must' is bogus there, there were similar guis in '90s at 100x smaller mass.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: bloat is not the 'cost' of anything, gregorynyssa , other than of tolerating the perpetrators of bloat.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: 'slack' (chat proggy the earlier thrd was about) weighs what it does because it is simply a rebadged 'chrome'.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: 'must' is bogus there, there were similar guis in '90s at 100x smaller mass.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: a++, watch for instructions in coming days. folx who link up will need to pgpgram signed auth turds etc.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-10 02:27:55 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-09#1038521 << is there any remaining hope of bringing back 1980s style FGPAs?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: if you can somehow interfere with this (i.e. set things up so that holding the real thing confers advantages which paper cannot) then have a chance at a depaperized coin.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: successful paperization requires the paper-buying chumps to perceive it as 'just as good or better than real thing'. e.g. paper gold/btc/etc can be leveraged (can borrow against it and allow it to auto-liquidate if margin called).
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-10 02:25:02 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-08#1038467 << Mr Yarvin mentioned in a fairly recent article that any coin can be turned into a security if some wealthy person or group creates a second coin and declares that the two shall be pegged.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-08 09:15:12 gregorynyssa: I don't know who said the quote "politics is downstream from culture" but it is a very crucial observation.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: elite 100% supports plebecontrol systems -- mega-surprise?
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-03 02:30:22 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-02#1038179 << that is so tragic...
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: lotsa folx like this, most simply won't admit.
(alethepedia) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: i can hear and read most of the yugoslavs just fine.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-28 01:03:43 gregorynyssa: asciilifeform: I never got around to asking, do you see any future for SQL within your sane computing environment? have you read the Third Manifesto by Date and Darwen?
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-28 00:55:09 gregorynyssa: zx2c4: asciilifeform: GUIs aside, the community never even mastered the art of building TUIs, owing to "terminal madness," or "termios madness."
(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: Be that book or WWW link, gregorynyssa?
(asciilifeform) zx2c4: gregorynyssa: ^
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: correct, whole 'multiculti' nonsense was from beginning a cheap ploy by elite.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: neither the minoans nor the incas 'had patent' on this glue trap. it's a consequence of the dominant tech paradigm of the time, simply.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-24 18:38:57 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: familiar with inca empire? and phrase 'palace economy' ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: familiar with inca empire? and phrase 'palace economy' ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: the fundamental rot in question is discussed in the old logs.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-24 18:34:45 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: observe that only dysfunctional enclaves are Officially supported.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: observe that only dysfunctional enclaves are Officially supported.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: the latter outgrowth of usg support for antisovietism in any form
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: where ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: for some $ethnic, for others nope
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: was addressed to gregorynyssa if wasn't clear
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: it'sa pretty 'expensive' religion (vs, say, 1 which simply posits that cthulhu sleeps beneath the seas, or similar non-obligating statement)
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-24 18:01:59 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: the notion that 'sentience' is a binary, is a religious belief.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: the notion that 'sentience' is a binary, is a religious belief.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-24 18:00:56 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: the flies on the walls of the school, by that token, oughta be 100% as cultured as the bipedal pupils, neh
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: the flies on the walls of the school, by that token, oughta be 100% as cultured as the bipedal pupils, neh
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-24 17:49:35 verisimilitude: It sickens me that so-called professional journalists write English worse than anything of mine, gregorynyssa.
(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: It sickens me that so-called professional journalists write English worse than anything of mine, gregorynyssa.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: every once in a while i pick up one of these 21st c. anglo-wonders and read until the 1st howler
(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: I've twenty-nine reviews so far, most of them also reccomendations, gregorynyssa.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-24 17:40:56 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: why am i reading mythology presented as factual argument ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: and what didya get outta reading this ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: why am i reading mythology presented as factual argument ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: 'In the days of Horatio Alger, the marks of youthful middle-class aspiration were such obvious symbols as well-polished shoes, a necktie and suit coat, a clean-shaved face and well-cut hair, and punctuality.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-24 17:15:36 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: i picked up quigley and was not impressed. much dead forest, very little said.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: fwiw i did not make it to anywhere near 74
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: i picked up quigley and was not impressed. much dead forest, very little said.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: re self-rule -- j.c. scott, 'the art of not being governed'. mandatory reading on subj.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: there's 0 originality in anything yarvin has published to date. 0.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-24 17:04:09 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: almost exactly as pictured in his piece, aha
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: almost exactly as pictured in his piece, aha
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: btw he stole the plot from jp 'last exile' in that piece.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: for some value of 'trying' and 'implement' , lol
(asciilifeform) shinohai: gregorynyssa: i was trolling verisimilitude
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-24 16:39:21 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-24#1037454 << I found it interesting how the old UNIX versions did not have sockets, something which seems so fundamental in retrospect.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-24 16:33:20 gregorynyssa: I had to grow up under parents with strong anti-Nerd views, even though my father was himself a PhD.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-24 16:10:56 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: 'odd' kid is always and in all times & places subject to pushing, this is how primate hindbrain 'expels defectives'. in '80s various usg busybodies proclaimed it 'problem'. in '90s fed 'victims' various dope, some 'went postal', proclaimed 'evidence there's problem', rinse & repeat, used to present day to justify totalitarian interventions against children in usa.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-24 16:11:21 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: it's a manufactured usg.problem.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: it's a manufactured usg.problem.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: 'odd' kid is always and in all times & places subject to pushing, this is how primate hindbrain 'expels defectives'. in '80s various usg busybodies proclaimed it 'problem'. in '90s fed 'victims' various dope, some 'went postal', proclaimed 'evidence there's problem', rinse & repeat, used to present day to justify totalitarian interventions against children in usa.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: not sure i understand the subj of the q
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: folx whose paycheque, propotion, pension, all depend on not-thinking-about-$subj -- surprise, lol, will show as few symptoms of thinking about $subj as they are able.
(asciilifeform) trinque: gregorynyssa: it's these top-down attempts at integration of "accidental" (in the sense meaning opposite of essential) items which produces more of the same.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-23 06:19:59 gregorynyssa: another is the reliance upon opaque optimizations to allow lists to be efficiently operated upon.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-23 06:12:34 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-22#1037410 << the language is homoiconic. it has strong support for DSLs. it unifies function-definition syntax and configuration-file syntax. it unifies call-by-value and call-by-name through "upvar." it has (limited) support for continuations. it was specifically built to solve last-mile problems (functions requiring intensive computation
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-23 06:03:00 gregorynyssa: the run-time structures underlying the language must be treated as part of the grammar.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-23 06:01:23 gregorynyssa: (2) programs written in the language contain opaque run-time structures.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-23 05:57:30 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-22#1037408 << so-called "web" languages have been surprisingly effective with regard to the implementation of command-line utilities, this being no accident.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-22 21:21:33 gregorynyssa: the cleverness of Tcl did not extend to Tk.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-23 06:14:10 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-22#1037415 << granted, just because one can write obfuscated code doesn't mean that he should.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-23 06:12:34 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-22#1037410 << the language is homoiconic. it has strong support for DSLs. it unifies function-definition syntax and configuration-file syntax. it unifies call-by-value and call-by-name through "upvar." it has (limited) support for continuations. it was specifically built to solve last-mile problems (functions requiring intensive computation
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-23 06:18:29 gregorynyssa: Tcl has numerous problems, one of which is the lack of a dynamic FFI (allowing the language to swallow DLLs at runtime).
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-23 06:01:23 gregorynyssa: (2) programs written in the language contain opaque run-time structures.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-23 06:00:20 gregorynyssa: (1) the rules of the language are constantly being updated by the vendor;
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-22 20:27:48 gregorynyssa: "we will find out who diddled the keys and why"
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-22 21:44:56 trinque: watch, I'll do the low-effort thing too. holy shit gregorynyssa, uplevel and upvar mean I can't understand *any* procedure without reading the entire call-stack.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-22 21:33:24 trinque: gregorynyssa: what do you find clever in tcl?
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-22 21:30:40 trinque: sounds instead like the requirements for webshitlangs, meaning no offense to gregorynyssa
(asciilifeform) trinque: watch, I'll do the low-effort thing too. holy shit gregorynyssa, uplevel and upvar mean I can't understand *any* procedure without reading the entire call-stack.
(asciilifeform) trinque: gregorynyssa: what do you find clever in tcl?
(asciilifeform) trinque: sounds instead like the requirements for webshitlangs, meaning no offense to gregorynyssa
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( maybe gregorynyssa didn't ? )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: however DOES require that yer time is 100% your own.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: it doesn't take 'military budget'. in fact imho is wholly impossible w/ moar than 3 (or near) people involved in any direct capacity.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-13 15:52:22 gregorynyssa: imagine Linus Torvalds in 1991 embarking on a kernel with quasi-Ada rigorousness, w/ design-by-contract drivers backed by Hoare Logic.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-13 15:40:44 gregorynyssa: V essentially fits within the late 1980s environment. it represents a road which was not taken at the time.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-13 15:33:25 gregorynyssa: no reason why the restoration of 70s/80s cannot be our starting point.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-13 17:02:57 verisimilitude: I'm proud to have found issues with seemingly benign aspects of computing, such as common usage of character sets; are the Chinese just using Unicode, gregorynyssa?
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-13 15:52:22 gregorynyssa: imagine Linus Torvalds in 1991 embarking on a kernel with quasi-Ada rigorousness, w/ design-by-contract drivers backed by Hoare Logic.
(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: I'm proud to have found issues with seemingly benign aspects of computing, such as common usage of character sets; are the Chinese just using Unicode, gregorynyssa?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: everything i've ever experienced from cn seemed to point in exactly opposite direction.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: considered to do this, but loathe to make old gpg part of the spec. but my replacement for it not yet ready.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: i wrote the original vtron; and still use phf's updated (for keccakism) version of it
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: of mod6's? afaik yes
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-09 21:08:58 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-09#1035967 << is the term pseudo-node synonymous with "light node," or does it refer to a class of programs created specifically for nefarious purposes?
(asciilifeform) trinque: gregorynyssa: oh stop
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-04 05:35:50 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-03#1035345 << my interest in this matter is more anthropological than economic. if the ruling class goes through a generational religious shift, I consider that significant
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: makes sense.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: rather fragmented subject, and (on account of said fragmentation / incomplete presence on www) difficult even for folx who know the lang
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: '70s.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: btw originality in computing in fact died before su folded.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-03 17:03:09 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: there's ~0 post-soviet engineering work worth noting in ru afaik.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: somehow asciilifeform very often finds self , in meatspace, in the company of 'cold warriors' who (being originally created, in ideological sense, by su emigres) do the 'cat sniffs cat's arse' thing, 'hey, aint putler the devil? how about them 1000 megatonne robotic submarines' and fall down laffing
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: there's ~0 post-soviet engineering work worth noting in ru afaik.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: there's a number of pieces like this. written even prior to 'nam'. the folx who 'need these most', won't read (and if read, will draw 0 conclusion)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: dunno where you got the idea that modern-day ru exemplifies some kinda 'intellectual self-sufficiency'
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-03 16:58:21 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: the sad thing is that current-day usa is roughly same item as 'stagnation-era' cn
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: the sad thing is that current-day usa is roughly same item as 'stagnation-era' cn
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: i suspect that the answer is invariably '9000 chinese thought of it, but each time 'perp' was horsewhipped, told in no uncertain terms that it won't do, not properly confucian/maoist/etc., and if still didn't get message, beheaded'
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-02 18:43:46 gregorynyssa: they believed in Creationism. they would abhor modern psychology/psychiatry b/c of its Behavioralist and Darwinist underpinnings.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-02 18:41:42 gregorynyssa: they engaged in the shaming of adulterers. they burned witches.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-02 18:30:14 gregorynyssa: he gets his religious history wrong in many places, such as his reference to the Munster Rebellion, and confusion of Quakerism with Mainline Protestantism.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-02 18:27:46 gregorynyssa: given lack of Yankees on Supreme Court and other visible positions of authority (incl. academia) the possibility of this pure Yankee community secretly existing would be entertaining.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-02 18:25:45 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-02#1035174 << what sparked my curiosity was your suggestion (maybe I misinterpreted) that there might be a secret community of very pure Yankees at the top of society.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-02 18:19:47 gregorynyssa: not saying you are wrong. wealth + influence are indeed being passed down. but in this case, the Yankee (ie. WASP) heritage is not.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-02 18:18:42 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-02#1035078 << Bush Jr distanced himself from his New England heritage, identified with the South, and converted to Southern-centric denomination. Jeb Bush married a Hispanic Catholic.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: in principle can operate on just about any dataset with just about arbitrarily short address width. but yer then stuck emulating a wider cpu in software, via banking and similar hacks.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: entirely aware.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: dunno about you, but asciilifeform routinely works with data sets which don't come remotely near to fitting in 4GB.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: i wasn't aware that apl defined implementation detail on the level of mmu ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: for the tx db -- aha. see the 'cryostat' demo, is self-explanatory imho.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: i'll readily admit that did not hurry to do this (and still not hurrying) because the orig. trb ~mostly worx~ for all practical purpose
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: to 3 people, lol
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: imho is a trivial proggy (i baked it from my original log bot, plus a little glue to speak basic trb protocol)
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-03 14:54:54 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-03#1035261 << I had not believed in this conspiracy of experts giving purposely bad technical advice until you and Popescu came along and proved its existence
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: re: esr -- was not only 1 publication, but a lengthy campaign of artful misdirection
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-02 18:18:42 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-02#1035078 << Bush Jr distanced himself from his New England heritage, identified with the South, and converted to Southern-centric denomination. Jeb Bush married a Hispanic Catholic.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-01 16:40:24 gregorynyssa: Carroll Quigley and Leonard Shlain both support the idea that around 1960s there were fundamental changes in way of thinking.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-01 16:39:03 gregorynyssa: now, 1960s - leftward swing of Hippie movement is IMO just tip of iceberg.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-01 16:15:49 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-01#1035023 << Carroll Quigley and Oswald Spengler both argued that Western civilization excludes Classical. it started with the Dark Ages, and merely appropriated Classical elements on a superficial level.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-01 16:12:09 gregorynyssa: I noticed a distrubing trend that when people say they value "Western traditional thought" without qualification, they basically just mean that they are huge fans of Thomas Carlyle.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-01 16:05:16 gregorynyssa: I think it is worth noting that SJW thought is itself based on a body of assumptions which are not quite Christian, and not quite Atheist.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-01 16:01:18 gregorynyssa: but in another decade, they will be gone.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-01 15:58:17 gregorynyssa: So has Vox Day, Richard Spencer, Jordan Peterson.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-01 15:29:32 trinque: gregorynyssa: taking the capitol riots as an example, that's evidence, if anything, of the severe decline of the US, not the strength of anything else.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-01 14:59:06 gregorynyssa: do you think Alt Right is dying? I think it is getting stronger.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-01 13:00:48 gregorynyssa: unlike the Boers, the "Neo Saxons" of America still have the plurality/majority of population, and, in many states, clear majority.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-01 12:55:47 gregorynyssa: as "Neo Saxons" they deserve the right, like every other ethnicity, to fight for their survival and collective interests, etc.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-01 12:46:30 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-02#1032666 << any evidence of this? I was researching a similar subject, so I find this fascinating.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-01 15:56:26 trinque: gregorynyssa: I would like to know how you arrive at "alt right rejects mind-body dualism"
(asciilifeform) trinque: gregorynyssa: I would like to know how you arrive at "alt right rejects mind-body dualism"
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-01 15:23:03 trinque: gregorynyssa: what evidence is there that it's getting stronger?
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-01 15:29:32 trinque: gregorynyssa: taking the capitol riots as an example, that's evidence, if anything, of the severe decline of the US, not the strength of anything else.
(asciilifeform) trinque: gregorynyssa: taking the capitol riots as an example, that's evidence, if anything, of the severe decline of the US, not the strength of anything else.
(asciilifeform) trinque: gregorynyssa: what evidence is there that it's getting stronger?
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-01 13:33:23 trinque: gregorynyssa: you think this "white american" identity stays whole for a historically relevant amount of time?
(asciilifeform) trinque: gregorynyssa: you think this "white american" identity stays whole for a historically relevant amount of time?
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2020-08-12 13:04:27 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: it long ago went from 'mistake, like leaded petrol' to deliberate 'job-creating tech' fraud.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-04-22 18:06:01 gregorynyssa: the logic, I think, was that if you need your salary to live, then you cannot rise above short-term concerns and truly be in a position to direct other people.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: your summary afaik 100% correct, solidarity is the 1 thing they do not lack.
(alethepedia) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: everyone seems to 'have a friend, who has a friend...' who worked, supposedly, 'where troo talent matters'
(alethepedia) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: according to myth & legend.
(alethepedia) snsabot: Logged on 2021-04-21 14:59:39 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/alethepedia/2021-04-21#1002348 << can we hear more about these problems?
(alethepedia) thimbronion: gregorynyssa: It started off great.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: see above.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: or is q specifically re particular gadget marketed as 'wallet' ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: unless you know how to ecdsa/ripemd/etc in yer head, ~all~ wallets are 'hard'
(asciilifeform) thimbronion: gregorynyssa: yes.