signpost: asciilifeform: https://archive.is/Ip7h5 << to continue the theme of decadent late-empire.
cgra: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-01#1077594 << per trb code seems that 'block work' is not per the hash value, but per the block target value. every valid block at the same height always have same weight in this sense. the deciding factor between competing blocks appears to only be the order a particular node received them. and consequently, will only relay the first-received block.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-01 14:06:03 asciilifeform: cgra: when 2+ blox 'meet diff', the 1 w/ 'moar' pow wins
asciilifeform: cgra: loox like yer right, and i'ma have to reread properly.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-02#1077735 << 'looking fwd' to riding on planes w/ 'safe' gc'd shitlang, lol
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-02 09:35:03 signpost: asciilifeform: https://archive.is/Ip7h5 << to continue the theme of decadent late-empire.
signpost: they'll make sure the planes can be reflashed in flight for extra safety.
asciilifeform: verily. (gotta patch those systemd 0days!111)
asciilifeform: signpost: there was a much-earlier lul with 'safety-certified' cpp liquishit, but at least no gc there, and that labour force did not consist of webmonkeys
signpost: remarkable to consider cpp "clean" in this context, but behold.
asciilifeform: 'we thought we hit bottom, but then heard a knock from below'
signpost chortles
signpost: quite glad my old man's retiring from flying these soon.
signpost: "hey dad, how's flying the MAX?" (loud groan)
asciilifeform: meaning of 'safe' unsurprisingly being Officially redefined to include e.g. autos where engine cuts if suddenly can't ping server and similar marvels.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-10-27 16:19:50 asciilifeform: tesla auto is afaik the textbook 'post-ownership society'(tm)(r) lizard product.
shinohai: *shinohai lul'd watching tesla plaid in a circle-drag race vs trad muscle car .... tesla cuts power when opponent nudges close to yer side, giving them ability to power past you easily.
signpost: iirc a bill was just passed that requires this for all cars manufactured after 2026
asciilifeform pictures 2032 noose: ' isp ruled not liable for spontaneous copyright spikes injuries in sofas '
dulapbot: (trilema) 2018-06-13 asciilifeform: there was an earlier version of this lul, where it had a credit card reader and retractable spikes, but i cannot now find it, it was from early age of drmism
signpost: shinohai: bwahaha, automatic submission eh
shinohai: It's an Achilles for sure, could beat you in a reasonably fast turbo car just by swerving into yer lane making your muskmobile freak the fuck out.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-02#1077753 << unsurprise ( post link if you recall it ? )
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-02 10:23:29 signpost: iirc a bill was just passed that requires this for all cars manufactured after 2026
shinohai 's car is 1988 vintage, but engine is a 93 single turbo conversion ....
shinohai: I never worry about this car being stolen. Manual trans? check. Dials on gauges? check. Not a LCD screen in sight.
signpost: asciilifeform: https://archive.is/a9fSY << sounds like more specifically they mandated that the car not drive "when driver is drunk" and left the specifics to the innovations of industry.
asciilifeform: lulzy
asciilifeform: btw the #1 lizard use case for the remote-kill thing aint 'chases' (hardly ever happen) but rationing. 'odd-#'d license plates get to drive on tuesdays' etc
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-02 10:24:23 asciilifeform: pictures 2032 noose: ' isp ruled not liable for spontaneous copyright spikes injuries in sofas '
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-02#1077761 << ancient/unfritzed autos will prolly be stopped/searched/taxed at checkpoints, eventually
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-02 10:32:54 shinohai: I never worry about this car being stolen. Manual trans? check. Dials on gauges? check. Not a LCD screen in sight.
dulapbot: (trilema) 2013-07-01 asciilifeform: all this talk of IDs at store counters will seem nostalgically quaint when start needing a working RFID beacon just to pass through public doorways.
asciilifeform lives where there's a toll road where already if you fughot the rfid box at home / battery died / poor signal etc. you get automagick fine in the mail (if the license plate camera worx, seems to be ~coinflip)
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-02#1077762 << for folx outside usa -- this is where erry drinking hole has gigantic parking lot, 100% packed erry single night
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-02 10:34:42 signpost: asciilifeform: https://archive.is/a9fSY << sounds like more specifically they mandated that the car not drive "when driver is drunk" and left the specifics to the innovations of industry.
asciilifeform: phunphakt -- tesla's 'powerwall' ups dies similarly to their auto if cannot ping hq.
asciilifeform looked into 'whole house ups' systems, lolled at this one
bonechewer: Mutual fund giant Fidelity declares in report (PDF): "bitcoin should be considered first and separate from all other digital assets that have come after it". Any shitcoiners jump from windows yet?
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-17 18:41:38 asciilifeform: aand shitcoins will prolly always remain an attractive nuisance to the dimwitted who reason (correctly!) 'the derps who were there around shitoshi in '09 were no better than me, wai can't i have 1000 btc, maybe can if we can replay history'
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-14 11:55:48 asciilifeform: i.e. as soon as perp starts to notice that he's no longer the dominant miner, will 'upgrade' the pow, and the chumps will eat it up (given as they ate a shitcoin to begin with, being chumps)
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-10-29 15:08:01 asciilifeform: shitcoinism is inevitable , like fungus in a grain silo (and i suspect that if it were possible to invest in the fungus -- some folx would do so) but is exactly in the role of fungus.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-10-28 13:49:55 asciilifeform: shitcoins remain the most reliable scheme for turning over9000 morons' pocket change into some btc, afaik.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-08-10 16:55:27 asciilifeform: the algo hasn't afaik changed for yrs -- bake shitcoin, push via usg.media shills, build illusion of 'exchange rate' w/ wash trading at goxes, then slowly milk btc outta morons
dulapbot: Logged on 2020-12-28 13:18:40 asciilifeform: adlai: i recall a long parade of various crackpot schemes , this & others. all had 1 thing in common -- peddled by, and discussed largely exclusively by, the enrichment-scheme (invariably premine scamola, or even straight boobytrap) shitcoin enthusiast culture.
asciilifeform: afaik nobody involved, w/ the possible exception of penny-ante down's syndrome redditards, 'troo-believes' in $shitcoin 'replacing bitcoin'
PeterL: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-01#1077733 << I came across an article today, apparently the company MIPS has switched to RISC-V instead of MIPS now
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-01 21:38:24 asciilifeform: meanwhile all patents on mips expired yrs ago
asciilifeform: PeterL: the orig. co had been a hollow shell for many yrs prior
asciilifeform: (i.e. patent corral, begging for somebody, anybody, to pay. until evaporated)
PeterL: How is MIPS different from RISC-V?
asciilifeform: PeterL: for the most part, cosmetically. but lulzily offloads various functionality to unspecified liquishit which pseudo-'open' vendors are free to patent/withhold
asciilifeform: PeterL: originally riscvism was a licensetard 'reaction' to the mips patents
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 14 nodes...
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.021s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=721562
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.112s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=721562
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.113s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=721562 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.151s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=721562
watchglass: 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.153s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=721562 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=721562 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.143s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=721562
watchglass: 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.322s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=721562
watchglass: 82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.277s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=721562
watchglass: 94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.380s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=721160
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.652s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=721562
watchglass: 75.106.222.93:8333 : Alive: (0.493s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=721562
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
vex: trb might be of interest to something like Fidelity, prolly need charity status b4 they start donating tho
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-02 12:51:08 bonechewer: Mutual fund giant Fidelity declares in report (PDF): "bitcoin should be considered first and separate from all other digital assets that have come after it". Any shitcoiners jump from windows yet?
vex: Is there even a board?
vex: if everyone's 401k holds 5% coin, what's that look like?
vex: everyone can't hodl forever
vex: One of these days, I'll post a fully formed thought
vex: Serious question re trb tho asciilifeform: what's up with trb?
vex: You've seemingly always held the reigns, now also the treasury...
vex: any guesses re man hrs reqd for a battle hard ada trb?
vex: perhaps it's easier to launch shino's `88 into the solarsysterm to sideswipe musk. which would be cool af
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-02#1077808 << lol vex, how do you picture this ?
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-02 19:12:38 vex: trb might be of interest to something like Fidelity, prolly need charity status b4 they start donating tho
vex: like I said, I usually have half formed thoughts these days
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-02#1077814 << atm asciilifeform 'judge, jury, executioner'. see also q4 report. currently notenuff hands to break ground on anyffin interesting.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-02 19:32:35 vex: Serious question re trb tho asciilifeform: what's up with trb?
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-10 22:33:43 asciilifeform: !!deed http://www.loper-os.org/pub/trb/trb_change_of_guard.txt
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-17 19:55:22 asciilifeform: !!deed http://www.loper-os.org/pub/tbf/tbf_q4_2021.txt
vex: I suspect every outcome would be heavy graoning from alf
vex: thanks
asciilifeform: np
asciilifeform: vex: asciilifeform would be surprised, but cannot rule out, the possibility that heathen orgs (e.g. the linked one) make use of trb.
asciilifeform: none have written in, mega-unsurprisingly
vex: prolly haven't heard
vex: although it seems the aformentioned has a hoarde of ppl, so I wouldn't be surprised either
asciilifeform not aware of any heathen org with a serious interest in bitcoin other than from pov of subverting it, or at least tolerating existing subversions (e.g. segshit), so would be rather odd imho.
vex: your guess is as good, if not better, than mine
asciilifeform: guess is based on 'astronomical' observations and observable political faces.
asciilifeform: if some mega-rockefeller in fact wrote 'own trb', it is being used 'under a blanket, at night' and has 0 detectable network presence.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-02#1077816 << moar than avail.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-02 19:40:55 vex: any guesses re man hrs reqd for a battle hard ada trb?
vex: aha
asciilifeform: most interesting imho trb effort is currently cgra's (focused on the apparently bottomless well of bugola), followed by whaack's yet-unpublished thing
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-29 16:06:35 whaack: !e view-block 0
vex: I've been reading cgras insights in the logs
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-02#1077817 << most of the req'd pieces -- published a while ago.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-02 19:47:17 vex: perhaps it's easier to launch shino's `88 into the solarsysterm to sideswipe musk. which would be cool af
dulapbot: Logged on 2020-10-01 15:00:29 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: there's not a thing that'd rise to the level of 'plan'. asciilifeform in particular wrote 3 things: 'nqb', a largely-complete coder/decoder for the formats used in trb; ffa, with which possible to perform the cryptonumerics; and 'cryostat', to implement a o(1) db .
vex: both worthy boardmembers imho
asciilifeform: so far afaik nobody wants the 'unsexy' chores.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform suspects that ~errybody understands that no one will be 'getting rich and famous' from trb.
asciilifeform: vex: the piggy, fwiw, dun amount to much currently.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-18 11:28:20 asciilifeform: ... problem is, is very difficult to increase the amt of useful work with coin (aside from, hypothetically, jailbreaking ~people~, ideally 2-3 people. but piggy -- or 'sandwich-adjusted' exchrate -- would have to be ~10x bigger to make this plausible)
asciilifeform: ( subj, for reference. )
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-11 15:39:49 asciilifeform: for reference, piggy, seen through a heathen blockexploder .
vex: better than nothing eh?
asciilifeform: certainly
asciilifeform: but not by much, lol
vex: can't pay salaries, that's for sure
asciilifeform: if asciilifeform (or jurov, prior) had listened to all the folx w/ ideas for blowing it, would already be a memory
vex: fuckin' oath mate
asciilifeform: subj will be a moar interesting one when/if the decimal point moves in correct direction.
vex: fuckin' oath mateury
vex: ? or add a few zeros to the treasury?
asciilifeform: was speaking of exch rate
vex: I know
asciilifeform: wouldn't hold breath waiting for someone (who?) to drop megatonne of moolah in piggy, lol
vex: abilgail, the ceo of Fidelity for instance
asciilifeform: lol why
vex: Dunno, never met the chick
asciilifeform: afaik at no pt has a saecular org 'dropped moolah' on a public project for any purpose other than 'embrace & extend/extinguish' and to any amt other than chickenshit.
vex: she sent that decree that bonechewer linked
asciilifeform: what of it ?
vex: I think she might like bitcoin, just a hunch
asciilifeform: possibly, but dollars to doughnuts thinks gavin's atrocity 'is bitcoin'
asciilifeform: the 1 afaik promising proposal to shock-therapy such sufferers is whaack's. but reqs over9000btc for the detonator.
vex: I reckon she'd wanna have lunch with you.
asciilifeform: ( and might ignite the atmosphere, lol )
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-26 20:50:02 asciilifeform: it's rather similar to where e.fermi et al did not have a rigorous proof that 1st nuke wouldn't chain-fission planet3, atmosphere, ocean & all
asciilifeform: vex: it aint as if were a mystery how to mail asciilifeform . who fwiw gets (and occasionally answers) all kindsa heathen strange.
vex: me thinks abby would be paying
asciilifeform: for that matter asciilifeform aint in a tropical pirate island, but right in heart of the fucking reich, if these folx wanted to visit, could walk almost across the street.
asciilifeform: (but not surprisingly, they have not, lol)
asciilifeform: occasionally folx walk in with commercial contracts. but it's always for maintaining industrial shitware, rather than anyffin btc-related
asciilifeform shudders at what 'btc-related' might want in typical case. but 0 so far
vex: same.
vex: wall street wants to play tho. it's happening
asciilifeform: from asciilifeform's pov, today just as decade ago, thing's a 'sword in the stone'; there's ~0 public activity in it that doesn't readily reduce to one type of egregious scam or anuther
asciilifeform: and what little there is, is visible right here.
asciilifeform: vex: their 'play' consists of the usual, afaik, invariably
dulapbot: Logged on 2020-05-05 19:59:44 asciilifeform: as a rule, they're entirely happy to buy promisecoin, so can 'leverage' and 'play'.
asciilifeform: i.e. fulfilling reich dictat re damping the exchrate and disrupting organic hawala network formation.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-19 13:03:00 asciilifeform: the reason why various 2010s 'they'll ban goxes!' prognoses (incl. asciilifeform's) came to nuffin, is that turns out goxes are a very effective instrument of exchrate control, and therefore quite valuable to the reich.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-25 14:19:31 asciilifeform: is half of why reich even tolerates goxes -- to put brakes on the development of proper wotronic trade.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-14 20:07:52 asciilifeform: i.e. you go to yer l1 hawaladar.
asciilifeform: in '17 party line was switched from 'try to kill via phorkwarz' to 'embrace & extinguish'.
vex: you're probably right. it's worth noting fedelity can change bc to $ & back in house
asciilifeform: well if you've a bag of both, can 'chance to and back' in house, noshit
asciilifeform: *change
asciilifeform not convinced that any saecular mega-org actually possesses -- and makes use of -- a bag of actual coin (rather than promisecoinz)
vex: it changes the game
asciilifeform: changes what, exactly ?
mats: https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjbz7m/breakway-us-republic-builds-ties-to-regional-extremist-movements
asciilifeform: if they want to disburse usd somewhere, still end up going through reich organs and kowtowing to 'aml', 'kyc', etc
vex: just
asciilifeform: mats: sounds like replay of oregon thing ?
dulapbot: (trilema) 2016-01-12 ascii_butugychag: http://grist.org/article/7-kinds-of-government-subsidies-those-angry-ranchers-get-that-you-dont << lulzily linked from the fishwrap
asciilifeform: ( these tend to end stereotypically -- reich hands out minor mandarinates to the pliant/literate participants (as in 'occupy') , malcolm-x the rest, arrest sympathizers, whole thing forgotten in 2-3 wks )
mats: maybe, we'll see
asciilifeform: ( recall 'republic of seattle' ? )
dulapbot: Logged on 2020-07-02 09:09:45 feedbot: http://mvdstandard.net/2020/07/seattle-dismantles-autonomous-zone-chazchop-invaded-by-police-catpuring-23-after-march-on-mayors-home/ << The Montevideo Standard -- Seattle Dismantles Autonomous Zone: CHAZ/CHOP Invaded By Police Catpuring 23 After March On Mayor's Home
mats: a hundred mosquitoes on the back of a dying sovereign and so on
asciilifeform: still waiting for 'uprising' that isn't run by the usual mix of provocateurs and semiliterate roomtemp-iq waco fodders
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-25 19:33:42 asciilifeform: is funny, how erry time they need to agitate for yr+, bus in over9000 morons of both hat colours into some shithole, and spend 1e8$ on provocateurs, to get 1-2 corpses
asciilifeform: not that it'd be immed. obv. or conspicuous to naked eye, if existed.
asciilifeform: (reich press will mention it 0 times, for so long as at all possible)
mats: the current ukrainian business is interesting
asciilifeform: loox so far like the same endless carousel since '14
vex goes to look at '14
mats: if usg doesn't yield, i wonder if ru will sack kiev and leave ukr a smoking crater
asciilifeform: that was, asciilifeform understands, the reich objective to start with
asciilifeform: i.e. 'create a vietnam' for ru
mats: dubious whether they'd want to occupy
mats: too dumb
asciilifeform: hence not bit bait
asciilifeform: only us lizards suffer this degree of down's
asciilifeform: traditional reich playbook where 'force'em to Commit Atrocities, then have International Komyoniti intervene' a la yugoslavia -- failed
asciilifeform: even then, trick only worked because compliant muppet (yeltsin) on ru throne at the time
asciilifeform will bbl.
vex: big bada boom on malaya airlines was a fuckup
vex: Imagine being the bloke who's shoulder that thing left
vex: When I read the logs I alwyas find my own name and shame
vex starts thinking about his skeleton. wants to jump out
vex: not possiburu
asciilifeform: 'In Second Largest DeFi Hack Ever, Blockchain Bridge Loses $320M Ether' << a++lol
asciilifeform: '“We noticed you were able to exploit the Solana VAA verification and mint tokens,” the message said. “We’d like to offer you a whitehat agreement, and present you a bug bounty of $10 million for exploit details, and returning the wETH you’ve minted.”' << lol, 'wouldntcha like some taxolade and maybe swat team visit in trade for the pinched goodies?'
asciilifeform: aand oblig note re the '$320M'.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-08-10 11:00:15 asciilifeform: i.e. the creator of whatever supposed-bug enables the 'ohnoez $xxx mil is gone' (and notice how always reported as an imaginary usd loss, RIAA-style!)
asciilifeform: 'distributed phinance' is own punishment, like sniffing glue.
asciilifeform ftr still not convinced re any of these lolcases involving any party other than the orig. author of the 'buggy' dao-clone-of-the-day
asciilifeform: ultra-convenient method of harvesting chump moneys.
vex: if asciilifeform sits down to lunch with buterin. I want to sell tickets
asciilifeform: famous scammerz are busy folx, vex. all that cocaine won't snort itself.
vex: i don't think buterin snorts cocaine, but I understand your position
asciilifeform off to horizontal position, will bbl.
vex: good idea. /me also expects horizonal soon
vex: why I don't live in snowy locales. never know when the horizontal hits
vex never tried coccaine. never been to america at all
vex: I do have an appreciation for eric claptons' song
vex: clocked mp @ early
vex: which I will regeil with a youtube link
vex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYS732zyYfU it's a hard mistress i'm told
vex: huffcoiners who ever interfaced with uniswap got 400uni for every wallet hey ever used
vex: worth knowing