crtdaydreams: does trb only come in a full client flavour? I'd stand up a noad but don't have 200GB of bandwidth to burn
crtdaydreams: just looking at thin clients
PeterL: crtdaydreams: what would a thin client trb even look like? without the full history to check, it wouldn't be trb?
asciilifeform: crtdaydreams: clients which dun actually store the chain are called pseudonodes and simply pollute the landscape. they add nuffin useful to the network (quite the opposite.)
gregorynyssa: PeterL: if you wish to add a verb, you might say "care for mind over matter" or "seek mind over matter"
gregorynyssa: "curate menti super materiam" or "quaerite mentem super materiam"
gregorynyssa: sorry, the first sentence should be "curate mentem super materiam." (the verb "curare" uses accusative case)
gregorynyssa: but if you were to say "serve the mind over matter" then it would be "menti"
PeterL: nah, what I meant was use the word mind as a verb, so "mind over matter" means "to take care of some material"
gregorynyssa: PeterL: that would be "curate materiam"
gregorynyssa: speaking of which, this might interest "asciilifeform" or "verisimilitude:" https://i.imgur.com/NcGcAx2.jpg
gregorynyssa: a Latin poem by Joseph Scaliger which, to my knowledge, has no English translation. I found a Russian translation though.
asciilifeform: wb gregorynyssa
gregorynyssa: asciilifeform: thanks. I wrote a large subset of Pest in Java several months ago, but have been trying to fix "classpath" issues.
asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: possibly signpost might help, iirc he did hard time in java mines not so many yrs ago
gregorynyssa: have you implemented Serpent on your own yet?
asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: i've a cl serpent, from while back, but not cycles to do anyffin useful w/it presently
asciilifeform: (and about half of a verilog one)
gregorynyssa: nice.
asciilifeform: if yer thing can link w/ gcc .o, can use the classic ada serpent, it is entirely straightforward and const-time
gregorynyssa: so the ADA version of Serpent is included in GNAT?
gregorynyssa: * Ada
asciilifeform: nope
gregorynyssa: so it is a third-party package?
asciilifeform: pasteolade rather than package
gregorynyssa: Copyright (c) 1998 Markus G. Kuhn
gregorynyssa: I see.
asciilifeform: ( if yer curious 'how the fuq does it work' see e.g. & prev. articles )
asciilifeform: ^ for sumreason orig. authors couldn't be arsed to give the injectivity pr00f
gregorynyssa: TBH that Latin/Russian poem (which I encountered two or three years ago) reminds me of your projects.
gregorynyssa: "omnes poenarum facies hic labor unus habet"
gregorynyssa: The process of doing anything right in software from the ground up.
asciilifeform: moar or less
asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: if you read n.stephenson's 'anathem' -- the penal 'book' from same
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-11 14:23:04 phf: i'm always reminded of anathem when thinking about things like that
gregorynyssa: I haven't yet read anything by Stephenson, but probably ought to.
gregorynyssa: yesterday I read part of the first Foundation novel, having watched the 2021 Apple adaptation.
asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: have a phree cheap&angry translation of yer thing : 'if there be one who earned a dismal fate / and must a frightful punishment await / condemn him not to fiery smithy's hearth / nor to the miner's toils beneath the earth / to scholar's book let him instead be bound / for every kind of pain is therein found. '
asciilifeform apologies for 'на коленке' quality
asciilifeform must bbl
gregorynyssa gives applause
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform encourages the latinists to make a proper transl
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-15#1111614 << it aint much like anyffin else he wrote
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-15 14:15:51 gregorynyssa: I haven't yet read anything by Stephenson, but probably ought to.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-11 14:26:00 asciilifeform: oblig 1337 w4r3z