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asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
btcinfobot: Current BTC price in USD: $37236.08
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 17 nodes...
watchglass: 84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.082s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=685827
watchglass: 108.31.170.100:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-100.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.098s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=685956 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.096s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=685956
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.173s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=685956
watchglass: 192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.091s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=685956
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.143s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=685345
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.029s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=685956 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.223s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=685956
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.222s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=685956
watchglass: 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.325s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=685824
watchglass: 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.338s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=685905
watchglass: 24.28.108.235:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) (Operator: trinque)
asciilifeform: ^ apparently relays moving to cloudism.
asciilifeform coupla days ago wrote to'em again, offering a box. unsurprise, unsurprise, no answer. possibly ^this is part of why.
verisimilitude: My laptop arrived.
verisimilitude: The system software isn't unbearable, but I'm still going to replace it.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: 'pine' ?
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: replace with what ?
verisimilitude: That's a good question.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: here's where i stopped.
snsabot: Logged on 2020-08-11 16:55:56 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-08-11#1018626 << i haven't had much chance to experiment. the out-of-the-box heathen linux on that thing is ~inedible. needs a port of rk-gentoo, but this req's a working x11 and in turn a working driver for the rk graphics chipset, which apparently dun exist. so shelved.
asciilifeform: fwiw i succeeded in building xorg under my orig. rk-gentoo -- 3 weeks of manual deps massage. but useless, in the end, because no support anywhere for the chip in 'pine'.
asciilifeform: (or for that matter in my orig rk)
verisimilitude: I could settle for even Debian over Manjaro.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: if you find a systemd-free linux that runs on that box, plz post.
verisimilitude: I'll look at that rk issue; I seem to recall reading about something related.
asciilifeform: (under 'runs' also includes suspend-to-ram, xorg, wireless, etc)
verisimilitude: I may find myself using OpenBSD with it.
asciilifeform: lol goodluck
asciilifeform: ~0 support for portable irons of any description.
asciilifeform: ( not to mention, if you want e.g. emacs, you'll be force-fed debus etc )
verisimilitude: I've only ever used it on laptops.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: it's somewhat like gentoo, but with the impoverished irons support of bsd world, and... without USE flags.
verisimilitude: I've not bothered learning anything about dbus.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: suffices to know that it's a poettering tentacle.
verisimilitude: Yes, it does.
asciilifeform: i.e. useless program which consumes ram, cpu, and introduces vulns, and does more or less nothing else
asciilifeform: they are part of an overall project to bring linux down to the level of mswin in every possible respect.
verisimilitude: I'd heard it was a ``message-passing system'' or whatever.
asciilifeform: liquishit-smearing system.
verisimilitude: It's amazing how software could be so bad to force others into the arms of UNIX primitives, but it happens.
asciilifeform: hardware, similarly.
asciilifeform: crapple for instance is selling $2-3k boxes where not only ram but ssd disk are ~soldered in~, i.e. disposable after 2-3y.
asciilifeform: still selling faster than they can make'em.
asciilifeform: picture, entire machine -- costing like used toyota -- disposable.
asciilifeform: i suspect that they could add a 0 to that price, and it'll still sell.
asciilifeform: (because monopoly on 'the softs work 100%' + 'not microshit' )
verisimilitude: When I began my computing journey, I don't believe I expected to grow to loathe it like I now do.
asciilifeform wished every day, for last 20+ yrs, that he had never seen a computer.
verisimilitude: I'm not yet at that point.
shinohai: asciilifeform: this was the guy in dress that made the libc I posted a few months back.
asciilifeform: shinohai: ah, was it
asciilifeform: shinohai: defo seems to be 1 of those 'over 9000 free time' w/ invisible but clearly lavish Official support , folx
shinohai: Piqued my interest because of few clever hacks, but trying to read all the garbage code comments made me lose interest pretty fast.
asciilifeform: less boring than most imho.
asciilifeform: i found via the bootsector lisp, wasn't bad.
shinohai: Pretty sure I got banned from their Shithub page for accidentally saying the dreaded word "Tranny" in the issues section.
asciilifeform: shinohai: oh hm, those? how didja realize it was 1 of'em?
shinohai: By getting banned for using the word tranny.
asciilifeform: lolyes but what was the clue
shinohai: Even real girls that write code don't put as much gay shit in there as this one did.
asciilifeform: at this pt so rare to land on a www w/ src and not immediately obv. garbage, that asciilifeform finds difficult to care whether author is a pyronecrozoophiliac, or whichever. but there do seem to be co-morbid braindamages with these, so rarely get even to the point of 'who was this' when encountering those.
asciilifeform: the sad truth is that writing ~useful~ programs for extant machinery is nearly impossible. so who left, who not discouraged? the outright schizo, the peacocking 17yos, misc. mental patients.
asciilifeform: plus of course the funded corpstooges.
asciilifeform: these, together, add up to 99+% of opensores.
shinohai: I could honestly care less if they wrote code while dragon dildo shoved up ass, but usually the mental illness has a way of presenting itself in their works.
asciilifeform: sadly yes.
asciilifeform: in case wasn't clear, the more unfortunate thing is, when you see code posted on www, nowadays the question is in no case 'whether' mental illness, but 'which'.
asciilifeform: the sane folx have, mostly, given up.
asciilifeform: not to mention, sane folx almost always consumed with working for pay.
asciilifeform half-expected terry davis to leave some written note before death where he'd admit that he was malingering for pension moneys.
asciilifeform: there aint all that many ways to get outta workschwitz.
asciilifeform: (most -- only 'out the chimney', obv.)
shinohai: Current crop of clowns makes Terry Davis look absolutely boring.
asciilifeform: shinohai: asciilifeform aint looking for 'entertaining' people, but re who, if anyone, is advancing the state of the art.
asciilifeform: (e.g. this fella)
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