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(pest) gregorynyssa[asciilifeform]: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2023-07-25#1029303 << Stallman and others have been raising this alarm since I was in middle school.
(pest) phf[asciilifeform]: and presumably stallman never even used zemacs on anything but CADR, so possibly also didn't see any reason to emulate the voodoo
(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: I recall techrights being pro-Stallman.
(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: I find techrights odd; I agreed with much of what was written during the Stallman drama.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-03-16 01:02:56 feedbot: http://verisimilitudes.net/2021-03-15 << A Syndication of Verisimilitudes -- A Review of ``Phantom Stacks: If you look too hard, they aren't there'' by Richard Stallman
(spyked) feedbot: http://verisimilitudes.net/2021-03-15 << A Syndication of Verisimilitudes -- A Review of ``Phantom Stacks: If you look too hard, they aren't there'' by Richard Stallman
(asciilifeform) feedbot: http://verisimilitudes.net/2021-03-15 << A Syndication of Verisimilitudes -- A Review of ``Phantom Stacks: If you look too hard, they aren't there'' by Richard Stallman
(asciilifeform) gregorynyssa: sad how many members of the old guard lost interest in LISP: Norvig, Weinreb, Gat, Stallman..
(trilema) trinque: if after this, you still want to eat stallman's leavings I'm not going to protest or insult you on the matter.
(trilema) BingoBoingo: Whatever the hell GCC wreckers were doing while they iterated their first digit up to 9 as Stallman mushroomed, there is no fucking way it can be considered improvement.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: "Then there was the challenge of arranging entry into building where The Register's US operation is based. Stallman asked not to be identified by name to the building staff to avoid the possibility that his name might end up in a database. "Resisting tracking of persons is everyone's duty," he explained. Meeting him in the lobby proved to be easier than working out how to ask front desk staff to admit an individual who cou
(trilema) mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1936911 << strictly because when some pantsuit came in here to derp about how "stallman is respectable" he was laughed out
(trilema) BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: This has been done plenty of times before. The kids cry about Microsoft hiring a pedophile enabler, Microsoft kicks Stallman out to the street again. For all the dancing and noise Stallman maybe gets 18-36 hours of cot in the hallway.
(trilema) BingoBoingo: Stallman's in a Charlie Shrem situation.
(trilema) BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Where's he going to find a hallway. The kids controlling Stallmanable hallways have decided he needs to die, and he doesn't seem to have anything to offer anyone who employs in the saltmines.
(trilema) BingoBoingo: ^ And Stallman cancelled himself.
(spyked) feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/09/stallman-surrenders-human-mushroom-quits-everything-as-boot-hovers-above/ << Qntra -- Stallman Surrenders: Human Mushroom Quits Everything As Boot Hovers Above
(trilema) feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/09/stallman-surrenders-human-mushroom-quits-everything-as-boot-hovers-above/ << Qntra -- Stallman Surrenders: Human Mushroom Quits Everything As Boot Hovers Above
(trilema) snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 19:05:19 asciilifeform: 'Motherboard has obtained a copy of the email thread, but has censored the names of its participants besides Stallman. ' << bonus lulz
(trilema) asciilifeform: 'Motherboard has obtained a copy of the email thread, but has censored the names of its participants besides Stallman. ' << bonus lulz
(spyked) feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/09/richard-stallman-targeted-for-depersoning-and-mit-eviction-over-defense-of-minsky/ << Qntra -- Richard Stallman Targeted For Depersoning And MIT Eviction Over Defense Of Minsky
(trilema) feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/09/richard-stallman-targeted-for-depersoning-and-mit-eviction-over-defense-of-minsky/ << Qntra -- Richard Stallman Targeted For Depersoning And MIT Eviction Over Defense Of Minsky
(trilema) asciilifeform: stallmanism sank similarly
(trilema) mircea_popescu deeply regrets having spent the earlier 2010s in a "oh, stallman, famous"
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2019-05-02 11:41 mircea_popescu: notwithstanding richard stallman's shameful fraudulent claims on the topic.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: notwithstanding richard stallman's shameful fraudulent claims on the topic.
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2019-04-24 14:36 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909529 << the idea isn't to get tcc to compile ada. the idea is to destroy gcc -- cut the "useful compilation half" into an ada compiler ; cut the shitlands compilation half into a small weight something else. there is no republican future for gcc as a gcc in the foss / linus-stallman sense of the term.
(trilema) mp_en_viaje: and these aren't mere words. it is what i see these people as, from the last poettering to the foremost stallman or linus, including the whole menagerie of "i just wanted to suck dicks" anodyne anons, be they zx wharever or oj whatever or whichever other one.
(trilema) mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909529 << the idea isn't to get tcc to compile ada. the idea is to destroy gcc -- cut the "useful compilation half" into an ada compiler ; cut the shitlands compilation half into a small weight something else. there is no republican future for gcc as a gcc in the foss / linus-stallman sense of the term.
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2012-09-16 01:03 nefario: stallman seemed like he was going to cry
(trilema) mircea_popescu: we can talk of power rangers in bitcoin because they got fucking squashed. but nobody before thought "o hey, you know what knight, stallman, richie etc ALL have in common ?! FUCKING POWER RANGERS JESUS FUCK."
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: stallman has plenty to answer for, but i dunno what he has to do specifically with koch's gpg
(trilema) mircea_popescu: fuck you stallman, your "gnu" is as meaningful as "made in america"
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2018-05-07 18:20 mircea_popescu: nda Gates Foundation. Was not a whole lot. Less than a mil. I made a decent fortune from bitcoins for no reason. And they are doing some really cool projects for humanity. Love their work. I have been to quite a few of Richard Stallman's talks. But still not inspired enough to care so much about OSS. I like it, but I also understand the argument for not having OSS and making money off it. But you did a good thing there. so co
(trilema) mircea_popescu: nda Gates Foundation. Was not a whole lot. Less than a mil. I made a decent fortune from bitcoins for no reason. And they are doing some really cool projects for humanity. Love their work. I have been to quite a few of Richard Stallman's talks. But still not inspired enough to care so much about OSS. I like it, but I also understand the argument for not having OSS and making money off it. But you did a good thing there. so co
(trilema) mircea_popescu: lling in stallman's deplorable dropsy".
(trilema) mircea_popescu: "the difference between a/fuckyoustallman.c and b/fuckyoustallman.c is 1) that one's in a and the other in b ; 2) no further"
(trilema) mircea_popescu: if i edit glib.c and replace line 50 with "fuck you stallman", and then try to compile glib.c, i get an error. if i edit glib.c and MOVE glib.c to /fuck/you/stallman/glib.c, and try to compile glib.c, i get an error
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2017-06-13 15:17 mircea_popescu: and this model ENTIRELY explains all of the "luminaries". werner koch worked the feeder-chumper cycle. stallman worked the feeder-chumper cycle. curtis yarvin worked the etcetera.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: and this model ENTIRELY explains all of the "luminaries". werner koch worked the feeder-chumper cycle. stallman worked the feeder-chumper cycle. curtis yarvin worked the etcetera.
(trilema) sina: mircea_popescu: are you secretly Richard Stallman?
(trilema) sina: Stallmanesque insults
(trilema) erlehmann: last time i wrote him it was because of this https://stallman.org/netflix.html
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2015-03-11 18:38 ascii_field: http://www.devthought.com/2012/06/09/richard-stallman-robbed-in-argentina << vintage lulz
(trilema) mircea_popescu: is it related to the "ven" bs nefario was pushing at his stallman-attended scamference ?
(trilema) asciilifeform: ' Richard Stallman was right about firmware, and there are alternatives now too.' << 'alternatives' link goes to, guess what, vapour
(trilema) mircea_popescu: yes, though i'm not particularily interested in stallman's moth-eaten brain.
(trilema) asciilifeform: https://stallman.org/articles/texas.html << further lulz re rms guest lecture at mcc.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: this is the entirety of everyone. stallman is not some sort of graybeard, he's a sad fuck who lied about what laptop setup he is using.
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2016-02-08 19:32 BingoBoingo: In other news FSF certified the Talos Power8 workstation board. Looks like Stallman has a new computer.
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2016-09-25 02:48 phf: "Richard Stallman and GNU refused to let libreboot go, despite stating its intention to leave culture rant libreboot.org" (particularly hilarious rant in light of http://zammit.org/libreboot-screwup.html)
(trilema) phf: "Richard Stallman and GNU refused to let libreboot go, despite stating its intention to leave culture rant libreboot.org" (particularly hilarious rant in light of http://zammit.org/libreboot-screwup.html)
(trilema) mircea_popescu: but stallman wanted to wait n years for some ivy league product.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: wait wait, stallman died ?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: so in general, i expect the notion of "code secrecy" to be as nonsensical today as when stallman was a wee tyke getting started on other people's emacs.
(trilema) trinque: neither software nor more generally communication operates on a flat topology; stallman's trying to cram communication into that flatland
(trilema) asciilifeform: the only 'stallman law' that remains after you strip away ALL of the usgological 'rights' claptral is no 1
(trilema) mircea_popescu: phf i don't think stallman, for all his posturing, was muich in the philosophy department. seriously, ima have a special right to use code ? tell you what - have the inalienable freedom to use weapons, in any manner i deem fit, such as against the us president, and to use the penis, and plates of pasta, and napkin scribblings and anything else.
(trilema) phf: asciilifeform: erm, yeah, i didn't mean gpl, i meant stallman's code freedoms
(trilema) asciilifeform: trinque: i was speaking of the missing 'freedom' from stallman's 'freedoms list' - '... to UNDERSTAND'
(trilema) mircea_popescu: yeah well. the whole "open source/free software" delusion has gone long enough ; time to take it behind the bikeshed and put a bullet in its brain. leaving aside the entirely misguided communist nonsense of stallman, which is already discussed int he logs, look at what open source did for ethereum, since he mentioned it.
(trilema) asciilifeform: (stallman hated him for it, even)
(trilema) mircea_popescu: $google megaupload stallman comments
(trilema) BingoBoingo: Not that contained if you recognize Stallman
(trilema) mircea_popescu: Public Exponent 35 is NOT PRIME ! User(s): root@stallman.mayfirst.org; << check it out phf :D
(trilema) mircea_popescu: and these imbecile stallmans of a new generation, encouraging this nonsense. pfff.
(trilema) assbot: Bitcoin 2012 London: Richard Stallman - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1VNcdmT )
(trilema) mircea_popescu: stallman has reduced himself to the position where street urchins are pulling the "i'm paying you, stand up to attention" trick on him
(trilema) asciilifeform: 'Unpleasant surprises followed. As leader of the GNU Project, Stallman experienced the first fork of Emacs in 1991. As we will see below by 1993, the GNU Project's completely lost the initiative due to an inability to deliver a working POSIX kernel. In March, 1993, a Wired magazine article by Simson Garfinkel described the GNU Project as "bogged down". GCC fork occurred a several years late
(trilema) asciilifeform: 'In 1990, the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation granted Stallman a MacArthur fellowship. The grant, a $240,000 which is more then $500K in 2000 dollars provided Stallman with a source of income and health insurance for five years. That made it less necessary to do consulting work to support himself. Although RMS now can devote more time to the writing GNU software, but actually h
(trilema) assbot: 0 results for 'from:nefario stallman' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Anefario+stallman
(trilema) mircea_popescu: !s from:nefario stallman
(trilema) asciilifeform: 'Stallman recently tried what I would call a hostile takeover of the glibc development. He tried to conspire behind my back and persuade the other main developers to take control so that in the end he is in control and can dictate whatever pleases him. This attempt failed ... '
(trilema) assbot: Part IV. Stallman as a Prophet ... ( http://bit.ly/1VNbn9V )
(trilema) asciilifeform: http://www.softpanorama.org/People/Stallman/prophet.shtml#An attempt of hostile takeover of glib << l0l drepper gold
(trilema) assbot: Richard Stallman ... ( http://bit.ly/1UupnXv )
(trilema) BingoBoingo: In other news FSF certified the Talos Power8 workstation board. Looks like Stallman has a new computer.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "the spirit of stallman compels you!"
(trilema) assbot: Bumping into Stallman, again ... ( http://bit.ly/1NOUDsC )
(trilema) asciilifeform: 'Stallman, though, thought that it would be better discussed in private: "This a sensitive issue; it is best to discuss it without an audience."' << sad.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: Uh, Eric Raymond explicitly created the "Open Source" label exactly to appeal to industry players who considered bothering with principles suspicious. So yes, Open Source is for people without principles. That's not Stallman's pitch, but an explicit design goal of the Open Source agenda. To replace the appeal to principles, a bunch of technical and marketing criteria are propounded.
(trilema) assbot: Richard Stallman - Re: clang vs free software ... ( http://bit.ly/1L2e9RN )
(trilema) mircea_popescu: anyway, basically stallman saw the problem of "if i release bitcoin then the twerps will get it and pretend to be using it, and then pretend to be improving on it and soon enough it will be indistinguishable from the sort of shit that it was made to kill. because the source of the shit drowning us is neither god nor the aliens nor unforseen circumstances - it's the lesser apes we insist on calling humans for no reason."
(trilema) phf: there's greenblatt, tom knight, david moon, daniel weinreb, guy steele, peter norvig, abelson&sussman, jack holloway. stallman and minsky. not to mention cracauer, eller, fahlman, maclachlan, rme, ron garret of the later people that i know of, tons of people i'm forgetting.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: fucking stallman
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Emacs is Stallman hating the lisp machine. Pragmatic my arse.
(trilema) trinque: I will never mock stallman emailing himself static html ever again.
(trilema) trinque: "holy shit, stallman was trying to cram a version of this environment into unix"
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 29-06-2015 20:38:44; ascii_field: 'Stallman recently tried what I would call a hostile takeover of the glibc development. He tried to conspire behind my back and persuade the other main developers to take control so that in the end he is in control and can dictate whatever pleases him. This attempt failed but he kept on pressuring people everywhere and it got really ugly. In the end I agreed to the creation of a so-called "steering c
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 29-06-2015 20:38:44; ascii_field: 'Stallman recently tried what I would call a hostile takeover of the glibc development. He tried to conspire behind my back and persuade the other main developers to take control so that in the end he is in control and can dictate whatever pleases him. This attempt failed but he kept on pressuring people everywhere and it got really ugly. In the end I agreed to the creation of a so-called "steering c
(trilema) ascii_field: The SC is different from the SC in projects like gcc in that it does not make decisions. On this front nothing changed. The only difference is that Stallman now has no right to complain anymore since the SC he wanted acknowledged the status quo. I hope he will now shut up forever.'
(trilema) ascii_field: 'Stallman recently tried what I would call a hostile takeover of the glibc development. He tried to conspire behind my back and persuade the other main developers to take control so that in the end he is in control and can dictate whatever pleases him. This attempt failed but he kept on pressuring people everywhere and it got really ugly. In the end I agreed to the creation of a so-called "steering committee" (SC).
(trilema) decimation: asciilifeform: stallman sits upon emacs, etc
(trilema) decimation: in fact, why not use a stallman 'libreboot' laptop?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: engineers suck at management is the long and the short of it. << I see no reason that this must be the case, but yes, fiat-land tends to breed engineers who are terrible with money (bill gosper, stallman, richard gabriel). It also tends to make idiot managers. IMHO much of this is because of all the inane nonsense involved in runnin
(trilema) decimation: was that a slight at the gpg maintainers or stallman?
(trilema) decimation: also, stallman hasn't done much about the 'hardware problem'
(trilema) assbot: Richard Stallman Goes Crazy and Freaks Out - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ftfi5u )
(trilema) decimation: that writing smacks of stallmans nerd-rage
(trilema) funkenstein_: stallman always did call apple products handcuffs didn't he
(trilema) nubbins`: google-translated linked source: "We all try to find the bag that thought was lost. Stallman was bad and sad."
(trilema) assbot: Richard Stallman has his bag stolen in Argentina | Guillermo Rauch's Devthought ... ( http://bit.ly/1FbuGDB )
(trilema) decimation: adlai: it's probably impossible to do something positive to emacs without pissing off stallman
(trilema) adlai: he did piss off stallman
(trilema) BingoBoingo: Stallman was right about those
(trilema) asciilifeform: 'Other Emacs stakeholders responded with confusion how this could be "a systematic effort to attack GNU packages" and also raised points on how Emacs has support for Microsoft Windows and OS X but wouldn't consider a basic patch for enabling the LLDB debugger to be used. Stallman followed up to say, "These are not similar cases. Neither Windows nor MacOS was intended to push major GNU packages out of use. What I see here appea
(trilema) asciilifeform: lol, what did stallman say ?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: exact same thing, in this exact same chan, three years ago. nefario was all "oh, we're so smart we got stallman to come"
(trilema) asciilifeform: 'Stallman complained that anything of good quality remains...' << rms is a counterweight.
(trilema) gribble: Richard Stallman Eats Something From His Foot - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ>; The Hacker Guru With the World's Best Tour Rider - Gawker: <http://gawker.com/5853965/the-hacker-guru-with-the-worlds-best-tour-rider>; Richard Stallman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman>
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;google stallman toe jam
(trilema) assbot: 0 results for 'stallman toe jam' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=stallman+toe+jam
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !s stallman toe jam
(trilema) mircea_popescu: meanwhile, the relative failure of foss is strictly due to the incongruous and often misshapen radical leftist ideas of stallman. had that thing been "the same old gospel of individualism, small government, and market fundamentalism that we associate with Randian characters" it'd not be struggling covered under a pile of open source.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: (ethymology also interesting : stallman's favourite pressman - evgeny morozov - running down o'reilly because he's not left enough!!)
(trilema) assbot: Open Source to Go!: Emailing Richard Stallman ... ( http://bit.ly/14Dek7P )
(trilema) mircea_popescu: i don't get it. so, stallman-gcc, is at odds with stallman-emacs and they don';t wanna talk inside his head because cacti ?
(trilema) asciilifeform: i'd include stallman - but my picture of 'graybeard' is about having experienced 'real computing'
(trilema) undata: stallman gets emacs points, doesn't he?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how about stallman ?
(trilema) asciilifeform: and similarly stallmanesque exercises
(trilema) BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: emacs would be interesting if Stallman surrended and just had it replace Hurd in his grand scheme
(trilema) BingoBoingo: "Lindh’s NAS ran Bash alternative Dash by default and a tweet from security researcher Dragos Ruiu appeared to back up Lindh’s early research. If derivatives of Bash are also vulnerable to Shellshock, this would widen the number of potential targets massively." << BADBOIS Guy >> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/sep/26/bash-bug-shellshock-richard-stallman
(trilema) assbot: Shellshock just 'a blip' says Richard Stallman as Bash bug attacks increase | Technology | theguardian.com
(trilema) asciilifeform can tell that decimation read richard stallman's version
(trilema) decimation: it's pretty clear that stallman was a beta whiner 30 years ago too
(trilema) assbot: Dan Weinreb’s blog » Blog Archive » Rebuttal to Stallman’s Story About The Formation of Symbolics and LMI
(trilema) TheNewDeal: for a second I thought he operated a pool for richard stallman...
(trilema) mircea_popescu: etc. richard stallman @booth 4, rinkiding central.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: Richard Stallman la Chișinău, în turul echipelor locale ale Fundației Ceata
(trilema) mircea_popescu: Richard Stallman la Vâlcea, în turul echipelor locale ale Fundației Ceata
(trilema) mircea_popescu: Richard Stallman la Cluj, în turul echipelor locale ale Fundației Ceata
(trilema) asciilifeform: it was a terrible setback, though not for the reasons herr stallman gives
(trilema) decimation: supposedly gcc was made intentionally obscure so that stallman can use it as a crowbar
(trilema) asciilifeform wonders where stallman got his
(trilema) ozbot: Richard Stallman Answers Your Questions - Slashdot
(trilema) mircea_popescu: lol stallman gonna lose another gnu stuffie ?
(trilema) antephialtic: a friend of mine works in the same building as stallman. says he does all kinds of weird shit in the office
(trilema) asciilifeform: richard stallman...?
(trilema) BingoBoingo: Richard Stallman?
(trilema) asciilifeform: when i read these folks, i wonder if they'd care for stallman if he were washed & dressed
(trilema) mircea_popescu: "I met Richard Stallman (RMS) once. Actually sat down to dinner with him at the same table but I didn’t realize who he was. He was poorly dressed, unkempt, needed a shower, and his conversation was both confused and confusing. I later learned that he was always that way. When he got up as the speaker for that afternoon, I said to myself, “Huh? Who is this guy that he’s being allowed to speak dressed like that?”
(trilema) BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The Stallman board version
(trilema) mircea_popescu: is stallman dead ?
(trilema) ozbot: FSF's Richard Stallman Calls LLVM a 'Terrible Setback' - Slashdot
(trilema) ozbot: Richard Stallman Eats Something From His Foot - YouTube
(trilema) ozbot: Richard Stallman Free software Song - YouTube
(trilema) ozbot: Richard Stallman Freaks Out and Has a Meltdown - YouTube
(trilema) asciilifeform: richard stallman is also well known for having minions check his mail (and even load pages)
(trilema) zacm: i hope the place stallman speaks at has his special diet accomodations in mind. he's on a toenail diet, remember.
(trilema) nubbins`: stallman had lucid thoughts on this
(trilema) dub: (all of these things ask for donations though, and stallman is retarded)
(trilema) darby: but free bc stallman
(trilema) dub: free as in side stream crack smoke at stallmans house
(trilema) nubbins`: stallman is fucked
(trilema) ozbot: Richard Stallman Goes Crazy and Freaks Out - YouTube
(trilema) Troic_: for a particular definition of leadership, stallman leads his horde