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ThickAsThieves: ok 6 confs
ThickAsThieves: price dipping
Bugpowder: i'm baaaaaaccckkkk
Bugpowder: There it is tiberiusiv
tiberiusiv: thats like 4 hours later man
tiberiusiv: confirms dont take that long lol
Bugpowder: well
ThickAsThieves: so where do you think the bottoms will be?
Bugpowder: sometimes they delay in heavy volume
Bugpowder: It has taken me 30 confirms before
Bugpowder: My first bid is at 81
Bugpowder: then 76, 71 and 53
truff1es: ;;seen bowjob
gribble: bowjob was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 3 days, 5 hours, and 13 seconds ago: <bowjob> lol
tiberiusiv: ;;asks 120
gribble: There are currently 16741.418 bitcoins offered at or under 120.0 USD, worth 1870631.70231 USD in total. | Data vintage: 57.2346 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.48964 = 2.9378 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.48965 = 1.469 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.4896999 = 4.4073 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.3 = 6.5 BTC [-]
tiberiusiv: ;;bids 85
gribble: There are currently 13577.623 bitcoins demanded at or over 85.0 USD, worth 1190565.26875 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.2072 seconds
tiberiusiv: not much of a sell off bugpowder
tiberiusiv: same levels 12 hours ago
Bugpowder: there is a ripple on every drop.
Bugpowder: this isn't over yet
tiberiusiv: right
Bugpowder: call me in the morning
tiberiusiv: so despite that news
tiberiusiv: why are we at the same level as 12hrs ago
Bugpowder: lets see where we are in 12 hours from now.
tiberiusiv: it has nothing to do with the news.
tiberiusiv: even if you rationalized trying to explain away price movements with news
tiberiusiv: what does peter vesseenes have anything to do with anything lol
tiberiusiv: is he selling a massive bitcoin stash?
Bugpowder: people are sheep
Bugpowder: 1) we were already deep in a downtrend
jcpham: i'm queuing up buy rockets
jcpham: like Bugpowder said
Bugpowder: 2) Ask / Bid is super high and rising
Bugpowder: 3) 4 day bank holiday in japan, so no new cash
Bugpowder: market was already fragile.
Bugpowder: This news is going to have a very negative impact in the short term (now till Tues)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.3 = 7.8 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: Also 4) The law firm CoinLab got is famous and good
Bugpowder: and does contingency
Bugpowder: which means they expect an EV+ settlement
Bugpowder: because they probably aren't getting paid by the hour
Bugpowder: Does take much to scare bit coiners. and with good reason. shit is always blowing up!
Bugpowder: not*
tiberiusiv: most of the sheep have already exited
Bugpowder: we will see
dub: ;;ticker --vol
gribble: 253895.71075196
jcpham: yeah i thin coinlab has a fairly solid contract
jcpham: gox got set up good
Bugpowder: Gox should just settle for 2M and be done with it.
Bugpowder: 1M if they can get away with it.
ThickAsThieves: that may have been their thought if/when they breached
ThickAsThieves: maybe even legal counsel said
parseval: I wonder if they'll be looking for a new partner
jcpham: yeah i mean if they stonewalled the contract they retained counsel long ago
jcpham: and it'll be like they have logs of coinlab ddosing them
jcpham: and all that
jcpham: no telling how far down the rabbit hole it goes
tiberiusiv: why would mtgox settle
tiberiusiv: they didnt do anything
jcpham: everyone already wants a new exchange anyways
jcpham: the non action is what the lawsuit is about
jcpham: compelling action
tiberiusiv: coinlab doesnt have ddos power lol
dub: lol
jcpham: remember all those problems mtgox has been having during the "transition"
jcpham: what if mtgox blames coinlab
ThickAsThieves: lol, i wonder how long before CNN cancels iReport as a service
ThickAsThieves: its obv stupid
ThickAsThieves: very bad branding
dub: I wtf'ed when BFL made the user blog and all kinds of even crazier shit than josh comes out with started showing up
tiberiusiv: im still waiting for your sell off bugpowder
dub: that CNN has the same 'feature' is pretty lulzy
tiberiusiv: in how many hours should i return
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C125T] 13 @ 0.21816684 = 2.8362 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00071634 = 9.8855 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: coinlab sues gox, lulz
pgp: huh?
jcpham: hey you guys want to doa bitbet somehow on this
Chaang-Noi: why did they ever think gox would be honest, ver still lost his 22,000 bitcoinica coin, hahaha tears
jcpham: the mtgox/coinlab thing
jcpham: trying to think of way to bet it
pgp: what news there?
Chaang-Noi: people trsuting gox in 2013, hahahhaha dumbasses
jcpham: i think that initial paragraph on dmages may be 75k
Chaang-Noi: its not
jcpham: there's some talk about that usually representing a certain fee (iana)
Chaang-Noi: its 75million but the contract says make is 50 million so its silly anway
Chaang-Noi: this is just about trying to get gox to do what they said they wont, and if they wont shame them
jcpham: well the 50 million is the realized everything
jcpham: they lay that out
Chaang-Noi: this is the big boys scammer tag
pgp: wow... that's some news...
jcpham: i wholeheartly agree with bugpowder and some of the others about coinlab being disorganized and poorly realized
jcpham: fwiw
Chaang-Noi: yeah but still gox cant just sell something and then go, nevermind
jcpham: they've never delivered and their credibility is laughable
dub: both parties are retarded
Chaang-Noi: both parties are fucking retarded
pgp: of course... like everyone else
tiberiusiv: nerds should be sent to concentration camps
dub: the court should throw it out on the basis that there were no valid signing parties
jcpham: hurrrr
Chaang-Noi: tiberslav!
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.3 = 5.2 BTC [-]
tiberiusiv: there werent any dub
tiberiusiv: 2 idiots printed a contract off of the internet
tiberiusiv: and signed it
tiberiusiv: then made a website talking about it coinlab
dub: you need to be a) over 18, b) not drunk or high c) not retarded to sign a contract legally
tiberiusiv: well vessennes is retarded lol
ThickAsThieves: and the contract cant be for a fictional asset
dub: tux is clearly retarded
ThickAsThieves: wtf is a bitcoin
tiberiusiv: it wasnt for bitcoins thickasthieves
tiberiusiv: always chiming in with the low IQ opinion
tiberiusiv: vessennes can probably be classified as having a mild case of downs syndrome
jcpham: if you think about it
tiberiusiv: and magictux a severe case of mental retardation
jcpham: put your tinfoil hat on for a sec
tiberiusiv: or not
jcpham: coinlab mined blocks
dub: implying I take it off
jcpham: pulled the VC pumped and dump
jcpham: underpaid miners in fiat
dub: what did coinlab mine with?
jcpham: and exited with lawsuit
tiberiusiv: jcpham yea you are dumb
dub: a fucking retarded idea about robbing the parents of gamers?
jcpham: it's brilliant
tiberiusiv: LOL dub
tiberiusiv: thats something vessennes would come up with
dub: did they ever actually launch anything?
jcpham: maybe a little bit but not really
tiberiusiv: how could vessennes mine anything when he was a broke piker?
dub: tiberiusiv: that was the model afaict
tiberiusiv: vesseennes made a website
tiberiusiv: and walked into some tiny ass bank
dub: tiberiusiv: get gamers (who are retarded) to download a mining client that gave them free game tokens and wow gold
tiberiusiv: talked to a teller about becoming a partner
jcpham: there was talked about different work units and different lcients on different gpus
jcpham: live an nvidia client for scientific work
Chaang-Noi: dub that was gpumoneys idea first
dub: 90% of their target userbase would last exactly one month, until the parents took away the naighty childrens puter
tiberiusiv: bitcoin foundation will fall apart now
Chaang-Noi: uni dorm
tiberiusiv: since its wealthiest member leaves lol
Chaang-Noi: yeah bitcoin foundation pervz suing bitcoin foundation pervz
Chaang-Noi: who is leaving?
ThickAsThieves: who ever didnt fart
jcpham: i'm getting eligius in on the foundation
ThickAsThieves: whomever
jcpham: for the ultimate in anarchy
Chaang-Noi: lol luke jr should be
jcpham: you guys need to back my miners union now
Chaang-Noi: and d3
jcpham: while the board seats are still unfilled
dub: get nefario in on this
Chaang-Noi: and pirate
jcpham: eligius is a charter pool in the bitcoin miners union
Chaang-Noi: and bruce :)
jcpham: i want btcguild next
jcpham: shhh
tiberiusiv: huge bullish event for bitcoin
tiberiusiv: vessennes is finished even if he wins his lawsuit
tiberiusiv: 2 clowns suffer reputation damage
tiberiusiv: = bullish for BTC
dub: ideally, but I doubt he's going to walk away
Chaang-Noi: i almost hope someone from google or paypal comes in a makes a decent exchange...
dub: ideally this whole deal gets ugly as fuck and we end up with no foundation and no mtgox
Chaang-Noi: that is the dream
Chaang-Noi: but i doubt it will happen
dub: that is best case
tiberiusiv: it will happend chang
tiberiusiv: mtgox will be at 20-30% marketcap within 12months anyway
Chaang-Noi: marketshare
Chaang-Noi: and they claim 80% but that is bullshit
Chaang-Noi: so much is otc
tiberiusiv: they dont claim otc share
tiberiusiv: and no it isnt.
Chaang-Noi: like real trades are otc, mt gox is just day traders
tiberiusiv: most otc transactions are little children doing 0.01 btcs
tiberiusiv: between themselves
tiberiusiv: chaang noi lol right
Chaang-Noi: iv done about a million dollars in the last month
tiberiusiv: look at the bitcoin otc book
Chaang-Noi: i dont mean that otc
tiberiusiv: sure you have
Chaang-Noi: i mean people trading with each other outside
Chaang-Noi: lol tiberslav
tiberiusiv: 1mil in 30 days
tiberiusiv: thats like what 2% of all exchange trade?
tiberiusiv: even less
Chaang-Noi: all of it was person to person trades not using an exchange
Chaang-Noi: and no, some days we got like 20 million vol on just gox
Chaang-Noi: hell i even got that finish guy to wire me 100k usd :)
Chaang-Noi: tiberslav where have you been? had you been here you would know more about this...
dub: you got it?
Chaang-Noi: not yet, but he has confirmed it
Chaang-Noi: i really think he has sent it
dub: reptillia
Namworld: I made over 1 million in trades in the last 30 days
Namworld: But on gox =/
Chaang-Noi: i did not same made, i said trade, buying and selling
Chaang-Noi: fuck i cant type, i did not make 1 million dollars, but i traded buying and selling that volume in person mostly in thailand and the usa
Namworld: Yes, I understood that...
Chaang-Noi: coinharvest and fastcash4bitcoins and local people
Chaang-Noi: easy as fuck to do
Namworld: I'm saying I did the same, more or less. But on gox
Chaang-Noi: fuck gox, we dont need it
Chaang-Noi: ahh okay
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4701 = 1.8804 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4701 = 2.3505 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.318788 = 13.1879 BTC [+]
jcpham: i have asked matonis personally for a response from the bitcoin foundation
jcpham: soon
Framedragger: dub that's awesome
maximian: Vesennes should resign as chairman. I nominate MPOE-PR as his replacement.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.3100001 = 3.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3188 = 2.6376 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.319 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.10899 = 2.1798 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 11 @ 0.10899 = 1.1989 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.27399 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.274 = 0.822 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00071407 = 4.0702 BTC [-]
jurov: only if btctalk wasn't down
jurov: theymos is too busy doing ama on reddit, no time for btctalk :D
jurov: added 3 zeros to $75K
Scrat: "I'm thinking about how best to proceed with that. I definitely want to get new forum software created, but I need to figure out how best to turn the BTC into a good finished product."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6111 @ 0.00071407 = 4.3637 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7789 @ 0.00071057 = 5.5346 BTC [-]
Scrat: not sure if daft or purposely deceiving
jurov: $avg
mpexbot: jurov: 102.91
Scrat: custom forum software... are you fucking kidding me
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.31000005 = 7.75 BTC [-]
jurov: with that money the can fkn hire joel spolsky or some such luminary to do forum right
jurov: meh, no point frothing about that
Scrat: existing forum software is (mostly) secure as a result of years of people being trying to break them
Scrat: -being
jurov: !depth
jurov: $depth
jurov: how do i display depth here?
jurov: !depth O.USD.C314T
jurov: $depth O.USD.C314T
mpexbot: jurov: O.USD.C314T Bids: ['1000 @ 2e-08']
mpexbot: jurov: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.05098201']
jurov: $depth O.USD.C314N
mpexbot: jurov: O.USD.C314N Bids: ['1000 @ 2e-08']
mpexbot: jurov: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.1184941']
jurov: $depth O.USD.C227T
mpexbot: jurov: O.USD.C227T Bids: ['1000 @ 2e-08']
mpexbot: jurov: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.05098201']
jurov: $depth O.USD.C227N
mpexbot: jurov: O.USD.C227N Bids: ['1000 @ 2e-08']
mpexbot: jurov: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.18918345']
Scrat: call the bottom guise
jurov: lowest breakeven point on *next* month options is ~ 176
jurov: mpoe bot is dipping its balls too deep again
jurov: $depth O.USD.C131t
mpexbot: jurov: O.USD.C131T Bids: ['1000 @ 0.00431737']
mpexbot: jurov: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.18889226']
jurov: $depth O.USD.C134t
mpexbot: jurov: O.USD.C134T Bids: ['1000 @ 2e-08']
mpexbot: jurov: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.18059408', '10 @ 0.37']
jurov: $depth O.USD.C137t
mpexbot: jurov: O.USD.C137T Bids: ['1000 @ 2e-08']
mpexbot: jurov: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.17269112']
jurov: ahh that 0.37 wreaked havoc to my spreadsheet
Chaang-Noi: bitcointalk.org down?
jurov: yes
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.42998 = 0.86 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.42999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.274 = 0.822 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.275 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3195 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: wow cog over .3
parseval: BFL started shipping
parseval: Cog has a heavy BFL order, something like 6 or 7 60GH/s miners from BFL
parseval: Eventually they'll get a significant boost to their hashing power
Chaang-Noi: oh i know
Chaang-Noi: i just bought 414 shares at an average price near .11
Chaang-Noi: like a month ago
Chaang-Noi: someone sold into my low ass bids
Chaang-Noi: like 4 times
parseval: Very nice
parseval: I have some I got cheap tied up securing a BTCJam loan... I really wish that site would transfer dividends that are accrued while they hold your collateral securities
parseval: Either way.. I wanted to hold them for a while so I didn't mind locking them down
parseval: I think there's a market for a competitor in the collateralized BTC loan niche there, if the new competitor can pay back dividends at the end of the loan term
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.000708 = 3.186 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.0007071 = 2.2274 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 89.33335, Best ask: 89.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.64665, Last trade: 89.99428, 24 hour volume: 289762.16466107, 24 hour low: 85.01000, 24 hour high: 121.97998, 24 hour vwap: 100.26635
davout: brace yourselves we're going under 50
parseval: I wish
Chaang-Noi: i kinda wonder if we are
Chaang-Noi: i think we will get close
Diablo-D3: you know, Im pissed off
Diablo-D3: I'd love to release dividends
Diablo-D3: forums are down
tiberiusiv: ;;bids 50
gribble: There are currently 131292.58 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 8886062.75366 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0065 seconds
tiberiusiv: ;;asks 150
gribble: There are currently 78395.924 bitcoins offered at or under 150.0 USD, worth 10103263.1678 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.4850 seconds
tiberiusiv: ;;asks 200
gribble: There are currently 136994.79 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 20132487.1587 USD in total. | Data vintage: 10.1539 seconds
tiberiusiv: ;;bids 0
gribble: There are currently 27329083 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14748803.8693 USD in total. | Data vintage: 16.9295 seconds
davout: let's sell to cut losses hurr durr
davout: :-)
Chaang-Noi: ill be honest, i sold some btc, but at 133, 230 and 255
Chaang-Noi: i do hope we hit 50 again cuz i want to buy at 55
tiberiusiv: i doubt 50's
tiberiusiv: everyones already sold out
Chaang-Noi: i think we might hit 50's before we hit 250's
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 1.31876 = 15.8251 BTC [-]
tiberiusiv: if you had a long position id be worried
tiberiusiv: 250's will never be seen for along time
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 1.319 = 15.828 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: there are a lot of people who wanted to sell at 130 or higher but did not, and yeah since 250s wont be seen for a long time these people some, will slowly sell off
Chaang-Noi: i know a local guy who wants to sell 20k worth so he can buy a car, but that was at 130
Chaang-Noi: will he at 80's? maybe...
Chaang-Noi: maybe not
ukru: he will
Chaang-Noi: lots of people like this
ukru: as he sold his coiuns at $162 !
ukru: ;)
Chaang-Noi: the first bubles the peak was 32 and went to 2 so if we fall the same we will ahve to go all the way back to like 15 (but i dont think that will happen) but i bet we atleast test 50 again
Chaang-Noi: im not saying this month, but before 250
MJR_: Yo! kakobrekla!
MJR_: the guy on cnbc is in bratislava
jurov: mjr_ you have us mixed again
jurov: i'm in bratislava, not kako
MJR_: oh hahaha
jurov: =D
MJR_: slovenia vs slovakia?
jurov: no, somalia
MJR_: hahaha
jurov: and what he's doing here? checking up local guys?
MJR_: reporting on some ECB thing
MJR_: something to do with the comments that central banker made that basically moved the euro a little
MJR_: just thought it was cool that i recognized the name of a foreign place on tv lol
jurov: ah that eurozone doom... but still doesn't explain the odd place
MJR_: i know...i was curious too
MJR_: he had a british accent
jurov: picking up guys i say... we're apparantly some popular fag destination
jurov: that happens to be in eurozone
MJR_: Ewald Nowotny <--- I think he made his comments in Bratislava
davout: yeah, we'll be sending ours to your direction
davout: also ohai
MJR_: hey davout
MJR_: yep
jurov: seems he's ec spokepserson, not journalist
MJR_: yes, there was a journalist there because he spoke about it there
MJR_: i guess
jurov: seems ecb had some fag meeting on bratislava
MJR_: lol
jurov: um, if they really do hve such meets, i should research this more :P
davout: want to join in ? :-)
jurov: i'll decide when i'll have the information
jurov: or maybe they will ask me first about securing some stash on mpex :D
davout: woow
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 90.14946, Best ask: 90.17776, Bid-ask spread: 0.02830, Last trade: 90.14946, 24 hour volume: 287950.79400385, 24 hour low: 85.01000, 24 hour high: 118.00000, 24 hour vwap: 99.70197
davout: wtf, did their domain expire with them forgetting to renew it ?
davout: bitcointalk.org
mircea_popescu: no, they were hosted by mtgox
mircea_popescu: which is being raided by japanese police reading maps
jurov: reddit hivemind says it was paid until 2021 but got prolly hijacked
jurov: mircea_popescu: know about the lawsuit already?
davout: doesn't look available
mircea_popescu: which one ?
davout: they haven't been hosted by mtgox for a while now
parseval: Which is why you should always turn on the registrar lock :D
jurov: cinlab is suing gox
mircea_popescu: lol yeah.
davout: they were hosted by "private internet access"
davout: jurov: popcorn for everyone
jurov: mircea, there are moar lawsuits since yest?
jurov: in coinland
tiberiusiv: well bitcoins party has ended
davout: it's on pause
tiberiusiv: yea for a very long time.
davout: i'd say 1 or 1.5 years
tiberiusiv: last pause took 2 years to surpass a high
tiberiusiv: this time probably even longer
davout: probably
Scrat: less
jurov: i'm not into analysis at all but this actually looks sane: http://i.imgur.com/WRRJnUS.png
davout: i think the timeframe will probably be somewhat similar, but the next bubble might take us into 3000 USD/BTC territory
davout: or not
MJR_: we'll see
davout: if we don't die stupidly until then
MJR_: who here is surprised that gox acted like gox and coinlab acted like coinlab
davout: choking on the popcorn we eat watching the coinlab/mtgox farce
davout: i'm surprised that they need to take it to the public place
KRS-1: ok who the hell pulled the plug
KRS-1: lol
MJR_: so Disrupt was happening in NYC
MJR_: and a bunch of cali vc's were talking about bitcoin
MJR_: one of them had a great point
MJR_: he said something to the effect of...people have been building some businesses, but I think you will see a second wave of businesses start
MJR_: and that is what i think is happening
MJR_: first wave is dying
MJR_: second wave is preparing
davout: i think we're going to see lots of press about the immaturity of bitcoin, a couple of years will pass, someone will make a major announcement, and suddenly the roller-coaster starts climbing the trend again
mircea_popescu: <MJR_> who here is surprised that gox acted like gox and coinlab acted like coinlab << nobody.
mircea_popescu: besides the new people might not know the tradehill dwolla lawsuit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.31499999 = 3.15 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <MJR_> first wave is dying << fu mpex will eat you all
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.1077 = 1.077 BTC [-]
jurov: i only met kids from startup incubator few times and have enough "waves" talk for lifetime
jurov: tlaking about something coming up in waves, new paradigms etc.
mircea_popescu: o that stuff
MJR_: obviously mpex was excluded from that statement
MJR_: if that wasn't obvious to all here
MJR_: also satoshidice
MJR_: and bitbet
MJR_: maybe a few others
jurov: mjr_ what would you say to company named "Improbable Solutions LLC"?
jurov: just using you as a lab rat for a moment
MJR_: sounds interesting
MJR_: i would say i feel pretty neutral so far
MJR_: but i'm still listening
jurov: good. i'm going to found it and wasn't sure if it doesn;t sound too negative
MJR_: nah, i wouldn't say negative
MJR_: overall neutral i think
jurov: if it's interesting and maybe a bit funny then it's what i need
MJR_: yes, it is both of those
jurov: thx. problem solved.
jurov: i had a friend that wanted to emphasize how creative he is
jurov: so he started a company First Media - procreative studio
jurov: even to me it was obvious he rather "overdid" it... so doesn't hurt to ask native speakers :)
mjr_1: lol
MJR_: procreative?
jurov: yes. some are proactive, so he can be procreative
MJR_: lol i think i get what he was going for...but procreation is having sex
MJR_: was that intentional?
jurov: not at all. he refused to even admit when i pointed out
MJR_: hahaha
Scrat: Welcome to the future home of "bitcointalk.org"
Scrat: Domain Management Login
Scrat: Need to enable web hosting?
Scrat: durp
MJR_: you took over the domain?
Scrat: MJR_: I suggest you visit the website
MJR_: its down...
Scrat: ;;isitup bitcointalk.org
gribble: Error: "isitup" is not a valid command.
jurov: https is down, http is parked
Scrat: ;;isitdown bitcointalk.org
gribble: bitcointalk.org is up
MJR_: lol i see it now
Scrat: jurov is right
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.93 = 5.79 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: I like "Improbable Solutions LLC"?
ThickAsThieves: minus the ?
ThickAsThieves: sounds sorta like a television/movie/cg studio
jurov: ThickAsThieves: that's why the name is quoted. fix your parser :D
ThickAsThieves: my parser just woke up
mircea_popescu: he slept with his parser
mircea_popescu: which is ga-ha-hay
ThickAsThieves: mp, is there a goxcoinlablol trilema post yet?
ThickAsThieves: the world is waiting
jurov: there's twitter one already. whole thing prolly not worthy of his further consideration ;)
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves noap
mircea_popescu: i already posted about coin* fail
mircea_popescu: what, am i gonna spam myself every time they do ?
mircea_popescu: a ok give jurov cookies!
jurov: omnomnom
mircea_popescu: ok, that is wilson's office
jurov: *gurp*
mircea_popescu: what the bloody fuck i know real estate agents IN ROMANIA with a better office
MJR_: who is fred wilson?
ThickAsThieves: someone that likes to drink a lot
mircea_popescu: a vc guy
Bugpowder: lotta bozze
ThickAsThieves: his twitter says "I am a VC"
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder its prolly giftsd
mircea_popescu: at some point it was fashionable to give people bottles
mircea_popescu: i think by now its subsiding
Bugpowder: The Dominae de Canton is half empty
Bugpowder: ginger liquer
Bugpowder: a flask
ThickAsThieves: any good?
Bugpowder: yeah
ThickAsThieves: i like ginger stuff
Bugpowder: I mean, for a mixed drink
mircea_popescu: gingerale for adults
Bugpowder: or I guess you can shoot it
ThickAsThieves: ginger ale is a rarity in restaurants here for some reason (north FL)
ThickAsThieves: it's abundant in the northeast tho
ThickAsThieves: too exotic for the rednecks maybe
MJR_: yeah its at the bar a block away from here
mircea_popescu: actually i think my fav liqueur is this italian thing
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 23 @ 1.31897 = 30.3363 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 38 @ 1.31897 = 50.1209 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: means "witch" sounds cool
mircea_popescu: so i go "summarize this"
mircea_popescu: i get back "karpeles says he has no idea what's going on."
mircea_popescu: i'm like "right. why do i even bother."
error4733: ;;ticler
gribble: Error: "ticler" is not a valid command.
error4733: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 82.30001, Best ask: 82.71226, Bid-ask spread: 0.41225, Last trade: 83.00000, 24 hour volume: 319970.07153489, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 97.26344
error4733: ;;bids 51
gribble: There are currently 109437.13 bitcoins demanded at or over 51.0 USD, worth 7184724.87849 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0054 seconds
leotreasure: what happened to all the options?
leotreasure: oh - there are some left, nm
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.9297 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.9199 BTC [-]
error4733: ,,eightball are we doomed ?
error4733: ;;eightball are we doomed ?
gribble: One would be wise to think so.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.3199 = 3.199 BTC [+]
leotreasure: why are options disappearing?
jurov: mpoe bot decided not to put orders?
jurov: $avg
mpexbot: jurov: 96.96
jurov: this works, tho
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.31897 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: leotreasure options are periodically refreshed.
leotreasure: thanks mircea_popescu - do you know if they're coming back soon?
jurov: already there
mircea_popescu: they're on right now
leotreasure: sweet thanks!
mircea_popescu: you will have momentary gaps now and again as the old ones expire / new ones go in.
mjr_1: due to the quantic nature of the universe?
mircea_popescu: also butts.
davout: karpeles made a statement regarding the lawsuit, basically : "i'm 12 what is this"
sturles: He did? Where?
thestringpuller: dude wtf happened while I was asleep¿??
mjr_1: fucking hilarious, the mark and peter are both on the foundation board, and he didn't even know he was being sued?
davout: thestringpuller: your brain re-organizing information, dreaming, wetting your sheets maybe
thestringpuller: fuck I'll have to read about this shiznit later
thestringpuller: got papers to finish
mjr_1: its pretty hilarious
davout: but it ain't pretty :-)
mircea_popescu: <davout> karpeles made a statement regarding the lawsuit, basically : "i'm 12 what is this" << <mircea_popescu> so i go "summarize this" i get back "karpeles says he has no idea what's going on." i'm like "right. why do i even bother."
sturles: The press release looks sensible to me.
mircea_popescu: aren't you the "lag looks sensible to me " guy?
davout: lol
sturles: Would be stupid to comment out of the blue when it can potentially cost you 75 million USD.
davout: well, it's sensible but it's still funny he doesn't know shit
mircea_popescu: ya, it's always sensible to appear clueless whern being sued.
sturles: Obviously CoinLab didn't tell him.
mircea_popescu: if anyone was pondering whether to join in the fray, just the signal they need
davout: POPCORN FOR BTC! POPCORN FOR BTC!
sturles: Something is fishy here. How could CoinLab be ready at the 22nd, three days after the FinCEN statement? I doubt it.
Bugpowder: hey guys I gotta run but when tiberusiv shows up, call him an idiot for me.
sturles: The case will probably end with some kind of settlement. CoinLab trying to put the blame on MtGox.
imsaguy: <sturles> Something is fishy here. How could CoinLab be ready at the 22nd, three days after the FinCEN statement? I doubt it. << pretty easy actually.
mircea_popescu: how do you know how the case will end up ?
sturles: CoinLab probably has a lot of pissed customers on their end.
imsaguy: They were probably already registering for the MSB license
imsaguy: which is all fincen was requiring of them.
mircea_popescu: not really any customers, they just got the seething ego of vessenes whom i've trashed to all shit and publicly humiliated for three lifetimes.
davout: imsaguy: no, that would be for fixed rate exchangers
mircea_popescu: so no, this lawsuit is not ending in a settlement. you can't settle egos.
davout: exchanges like mtgox need other licenses
davout: that in itself was already dodgy
mircea_popescu: davout arguably coinlab was not an exchange. without going into the whole legal theiory here
mircea_popescu: what they were trying to do is exploit a present hole in legislation.
imsaguy: coinlab was going to handle the cash
imsaguy: gox handle the exchange
davout: if they aren't counterparty to transactions they are an exchange and hold fiat on behalf of third-parties
mircea_popescu: they failed, through mostly everone involved being ignorant idiots
davout: imsaguy: the technical platform does not matter, it's the entity that holds the funds who needs the license
imsaguy: ...
mircea_popescu: this is not france you know.
imsaguy: did I not just say they were already registering for the license when fincen released their guidance?
davout: imsaguy: i'm saying they'd need a different license
imsaguy: which?
imsaguy: and more importantly, how do you know they hadn't started the process for that?
sturles: I understand you need a licence for each state if you are going to hold user funds.
davout: i have no idea, like mircea_popescu said it is not france, but the fincen guidance referred to people exchanging btc for fiat, not for people who sit in the middle and acts as escrow
sturles: Those licences aren't cheap.
davout: sturles: yup, and you gotta get one in each state
imsaguy: they typically require a $25M bond
imsaguy: that in and of itself prices many out
sturles: My guess is that CoinLab wasn't ready, but don't see themselves as beeing in breach of contract. Transferred customers wouldn't be able to transfer funds or trade.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C080T] 108 @ 0.38603715 = 41.692 BTC
imsaguy: The court filing attached the contract
imsaguy: the scribd document of the court filing failed to include said contract
davout: and that might be because the msb license itself isn't enough, but hey, just my opinion
imsaguy: I would like to read it
mjr_1: huh? coinlab is the suer...
davout: imsaguy: yea me too!
mjr_1: why would they be worried about bein in breach of contract
mjr_1: they are saying gox breached the contract
imsaguy: the problem with all of the fincen guidance is it is untested
imsaguy: until it hits a court, people can kind of do what they want
imsaguy: and think they are in compliance
davout: yep
davout: did anyone find the actual contract that should be attached to the filing ?
davout: LainZ: thank you
LainZ: You're going to San Jose right davout ?
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 81.83435, Best ask: 81.85530, Bid-ask spread: 0.02095, Last trade: 81.85530, 24 hour volume: 315308.23666282, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 96.42800
imsaguy: LainZ: thank you
davout: LainZ: not sure yet, there's like a shit ton of stuff to do here
mircea_popescu: the main reason that contract is relevant is because it shows the targets
mircea_popescu: which are i imagine news to many people who misrepresent the exchange revenues etc.
davout: mircea_popescu: they seem kinda low
mircea_popescu: if you know what things are really like they're sort of ambitious.
davout: dunno, if you take an average 1% fee on the volume it's like 30M USD volume, there's lots of room to cover the costs, don't think so?
ThickAsThieves: the thing that surprised me about the contract
mircea_popescu: ya well, this is why buffett said acquisitions are always at a disadvantage ot the buyer
ThickAsThieves: is that coinlab agreed to make 10% more than previous year revenue for 0 years
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves why surprised ? we know they don't jhave a business strategist.
ThickAsThieves: like who would bet on a bitcoin business for 10 years at this point
ThickAsThieves: i wouldnt even bet 2
kakobrekla: ;;bc,stat
gribble: Error: "bc,stat" is not a valid command.
kakobrekla: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 234340 | Current Difficulty: 1.0076292883418716E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 235871 | Next Difficulty In: 1531 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 9 hours, 57 minutes, and 33 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 10137984.6621 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.61225
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves speaking of which :
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29501 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: o look bitbet
LainZ: nice one again mircea_popescu been reading your blog for a long time and it is greatly appreciated, thanks!
kakobrekla: must be some cool guys
mircea_popescu: my pleasure.
mircea_popescu: actually, anyone with a reddit account kind enough to spread the luv ?
mircea_popescu: we have a responsibility to educate our inferior friends over there.
mjr_1: share that blog post?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4797 BTC [+]
davout: mircea_popescu just wants someone to buy his trilema credits :)
mircea_popescu: ya i'm only making more than most bitcoin businesses from those credits so...
mircea_popescu: gotta push it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.945 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: Can I get free trilemma credits if I do?
mircea_popescu: i thought you already had some
thestringpuller: haha I is just messin with you
thestringpuller: aren't you inhibitor on reddit mircea_popescu ?
davout: mircea_popescu: you do write quite a few articles so i guess they're deserved!
mircea_popescu: peeps always messin' with ma style
davout: haven't bought any yet :-)
mircea_popescu: well they're in bitcoin so that's understandable.
LainZ: me neither, using hidemyass works well:)
ThickAsThieves: that MOneyness article is so-so
mjr_1: what is it, 5 free per day?
ThickAsThieves: he conveniently ignores some things
mircea_popescu: per week
ThickAsThieves: but also
mjr_1: ah cool
ThickAsThieves: he ignores a huge factor regarding SR
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i think he's a noob mostly. bitcvopin noob i mean
mircea_popescu: he's an economist
ThickAsThieves: competition
davout: mircea_popescu: implements incredibly tight security on mpex, enforeces payments using the client IP :D
ThickAsThieves: what happens is
ThickAsThieves: certain sellers get very successful
ThickAsThieves: cuz people want an easy trust choice
mircea_popescu: davout well yeah. what, people want to steal books ? let them.
ThickAsThieves: then those sellers leave SR
ThickAsThieves: and go privaye
ThickAsThieves: private*
mircea_popescu: a excellent point you have there
mircea_popescu: should make a comment on his blog prolly. this is unobvious but solid.
ThickAsThieves: SR has no way to obfuscate customer data, so no way to retain customers
mjr_1: upvoted
jurov: lol it picked mp's smug face again
mjr_1: lol
ezdiy: mircea_popescu: why is pirate/usagi considered non-investment?
ezdiy: i mean its dubious and all
ezdiy: but as long you werent the last fool holding the bag ...
kakobrekla: trollcointalk down?
davout: kakobrekla: lol
ezdiy: kakobrekla: trolling there stopped long ago
ezdiy: its been made of pure fail past 4 months
kakobrekla: unserious.
mircea_popescu: ezdiy wait what ?!
ezdiy: mircea_popescu: just pull out the principal if its a ponzi
mircea_popescu: it's not considered an investment because it's not an investment.
ezdiy: and you win the game
mircea_popescu: needs a business to be an investment.
ezdiy: well, it works
ezdiy: until it fails
ezdiy: :)
mircea_popescu: moving money from pocket to pocket is neither business nor investment
mircea_popescu: heh. that's not how it goes, no.
ezdiy: but you imply *everybody* loses
ezdiy: which is simply not true
mircea_popescu: everybody does lose.
mircea_popescu: yes, it's simply true. if economy consists of this idiocy we all starve
ezdiy: why?
ezdiy: i made money with pirate
ezdiy: fuck economy
jurov: ezdiy: just few days you argued with me mpex is just a bucket shop
mircea_popescu: yes, well, the opinions of retarded 15yos aside, things are what they are.
jurov: now everything someone makes money from is legit?
ezdiy: well, isnt it?
ezdiy: i mean, how do you write options in mpex?
ezdiy: :)
ezdiy: jurov: bucket shops are legit
ezdiy: actually anything morally dubious is legit as long its transparent
jurov: ezdiy, there is an api for writing options, or what are you asking for?
mircea_popescu: this is the problem of talking to the ignorant. to them all the words mean the same thing and it changes randomly. so therefore discussion is an exercise in what, aesthetics.
ezdiy: jurov: transparency
ezdiy: :)
jurov: can you elaborate?
mjr_1: there are two ways to create an option
mjr_1: either SPLIT
mjr_1: or MKOPT
mjr_1: i believ
jurov: ezdiy knows, he's just trolling
mjr_1: ah cool
mjr_1: nice job ezdiy
ezdiy: jurov: well, as long things are not transparent
ezdiy: there are ignorants
jurov: nyse is bucket shop then, too you can't even access IPO directly without going through some intermediary bank
mircea_popescu: herpderp
ezdiy: for example
ezdiy: you were ignorant for listing a ponzi
mircea_popescu: anyhway, enough of this, i have people to meet. catch you all later
ThickAsThieves: if i visit a mining pool, and it spits out "Access denied for user 'ltc'@'localhost' (using password: YES)"
ThickAsThieves: is that something that will be exploited once live again?
ThickAsThieves: website i mean
davout: no
davout: that means mysql denies access
ThickAsThieves: i think their host doesnt want them anymore
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 86.00000, Best ask: 87.37727, Bid-ask spread: 1.37727, Last trade: 88.93000, 24 hour volume: 317169.48209858, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 96.07508
Scrat: ThickAsThieves: it means that you're a hack (if you're spitting out errors to visitors that reveal database details)
Scrat: and that you should go back to writing hello world applications
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00167 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: well, i should known with a name like give-me-ltc.com
Uglux: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 90.10000, Best ask: 90.35000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 90.10000, 24 hour volume: 322025.96705327, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 95.95725
Uglux: lolercoaster
ThickAsThieves: like 8k bidwall at 90 now
ThickAsThieves: someone wants to sell coins at a higher price
Uglux: poor giga
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3187 = 2.6374 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.3195 = 0.9585 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 17.070391 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0342088724344 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
Chaang-Noi: im a goat!
Rhino: I'm a Rhino
Chaang-Noi: awesome :)
Diablo-D3: hurray the forums are back
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.00000, Best ask: 93.99989, Bid-ask spread: 0.99989, Last trade: 93.00000, 24 hour volume: 330614.82688208, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 95.36606
Chaang-Noi: why were they down?
Rhino: Likewise
Chaang-Noi: nice to see btc back in the 90s
Rhino: bitcointalk is still down for me
Chaang-Noi: works in tbhailand
jurov: and in yurp
Diablo-D3: they were down since yesterday
Diablo-D3: I wanted to post dividends but couldnt
Chaang-Noi: hmm was just down again for me
Chaang-Noi: but now bacvk
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.315 = 2.205 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.31 = 4.03 BTC [-]
Rhino: Still see the domain registration page on it
Chaang-Noi: lol did they forgetto pay for the domain?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.30079994 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.30079994 = 2.1056 BTC [-]
Rhino: Looks like it
Rhino: Or hacked
Chaang-Noi: maybe they need more funding
Chaang-Noi: ]they only have like 500k usd for the forum
Ukto: forums are back? doesnt load for me
Chaang-Noi: for some yes
Chaang-Noi: i get it
Chaang-Noi: others ahve said no
Ukto: well give it here!
Ukto: "I just dont get it" :P
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.30079994 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: bitcointalk is up
thestringpuller: 109.201.133.65
thestringpuller: just hit that ip
Ukto: down I say! :P
thestringpuller: ;;title 109.201.133.65
gribble: Bitcoin Forum - Index
Ukto: ;;echo Down Down DOWN!
gribble: Down Down DOWN!
Ukto: :P
Ukto: theres like... no updates lol
davout: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.32002, Best ask: 94.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.97998, Last trade: 94.30000, 24 hour volume: 311433.29392122, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 94.99566
davout: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 97.10688, Best ask: 97.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.79312, Last trade: 98.00000, 24 hour volume: 311640.01921008, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 94.92621
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00069719 = 3.7648 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.38499 = 0.77 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0155 = 0.155 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 95 @ 0.01599 = 1.5191 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 80 @ 0.016 = 1.28 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3187 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.75000, Best ask: 95.09000, Bid-ask spread: 0.34000, Last trade: 94.69001, 24 hour volume: 305443.43095715, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 94.87912
ThickAsThieves: not sure how many of you have been following my tinfoil gox manipulator rants
ThickAsThieves: but if you believe them whatsoever
ThickAsThieves: i want to update that the 20k wall at 70
ThickAsThieves: is now at 8k
benkay: what's the game being played?
ThickAsThieves: so this manipulator is probably using some of that coin
ThickAsThieves: not coin, cash
ThickAsThieves: to prop up the price at 90
truff1es: ThickAsThieves i remember the rant like 2 weeks ago
truff1es: but not the details heh
ThickAsThieves: basically
ThickAsThieves: afte rthe midapril bubble burst
ThickAsThieves: we were chilling in the 60s for a while
ThickAsThieves: things were actually sorta stable
ThickAsThieves: then someone posted a bidwall at 70
ThickAsThieves: all at once
ThickAsThieves: at about 15k
ThickAsThieves: everyone just sorta ignored it
ThickAsThieves: and built on top of it
ThickAsThieves: really its the whole foundation that got us to 160
ThickAsThieves: once we hit 80
truff1es: a few ppl suggested that one should buy or sell at that time..
ThickAsThieves: he put up another
ThickAsThieves: and he probly helped build the whole bubble last time too
ThickAsThieves: today is the first day since it appearred
ThickAsThieves: that it has dropped in size
ThickAsThieves: and a couple hours ago
ThickAsThieves: someone rallied the price from 82 to 90
ThickAsThieves: and posted new bidwalls
ThickAsThieves: that was probably him
ThickAsThieves: he's letting everyone else thicken the bidbook
ThickAsThieves: and buy above his walls
ThickAsThieves: so he can crash when ready
truff1es: wish i understood the process...
truff1es: or what ure saying
truff1es: but im guessing someone is just fist pumping himself right now
truff1es: or some ppl
ThickAsThieves: there is risk to what he is doing
ThickAsThieves: if he is the biggest player on gox
ThickAsThieves: not much risk
Chaang-Noi: i think people over think this stuff:)
ThickAsThieves: possibly
ThickAsThieves: but can you refute it?
jcpham: i asked matonis last night for a comment on the legitimacy of the foundation
jcpham: "Please understand that due to ongoing discussions, I am unable to comment publicly. I agree with you about a strong foundation and I would add that it needs a neutral and independent executive director"
Chaang-Noi: no i cant refute crazy ramblings, i agree you MIGHT be correct
jcpham: " I will definitely make a comment when things become more clear. Thanks for your support."
jcpham: whatever that means
ThickAsThieves: its not THAT crazy
truff1es: then its not crazy ramblings
Chaang-Noi: jcpham fuck the foundation, this is btc
ThickAsThieves: i'm not normally a tinfoil kinda guy
ThickAsThieves: but i watched these things happen
ThickAsThieves: and decided to theorize answers
Chaang-Noi: t crazy
Chaang-Noi: but i see not evidance to support it, or say its not true
ThickAsThieves: how would you explain the sudden bidwalls?
ThickAsThieves: just someone saying hey wtf lemme post a big bid!
truff1es: cra·zy Adjective
truff1es: Mentally deranged, esp. as manifested in a wild or aggressive way: "Stella went crazy and assaulted a visitor".v
ThickAsThieves: i would love to get a fair argument that makes mine look crazy
ThickAsThieves: i'm not tied to it if its a dumb theory
jcpham: i wear the tinfoil with you ThickAsThieves
jcpham: "he" or "them" have been buuilding it up and tearing it down again for months
jcpham: maybe years
ThickAsThieves: the best thing we can do is ride with them
ThickAsThieves: not against them
ThickAsThieves: then we get more power
jcpham: no sense swimming against the current
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.80000, Best ask: 94.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19000, Last trade: 94.99000, 24 hour volume: 298905.40822556, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 94.89145
thestringpuller: i keep missing cheap coins ugh
ThickAsThieves: dont worry
ThickAsThieves: youll get your chance soon
ThickAsThieves: even cheaper
truff1es: <jcpham> no sense swimming against the current>>> easiest way to control ppl heh
ThickAsThieves: truff1es, the difference here is, more coins = more power
ThickAsThieves: and anyone can get coins
kakobrekla: MJR_ mjr_1 mjr___ ^^
kakobrekla: and also, get a bouncer
truff1es: its just whenever this group wants something u follow so i dunno
kakobrekla: this is ... ridiculus.
thestringpuller: kakobrekla: you are ridiculous
thestringpuller: where is mircea_popescu
truff1es: page doesnt load
thestringpuller: summon him from the depths
Chaang-Noi: feeding his slaves
thestringpuller: Chaang-Noi: are you Thai?
kakobrekla: slaves are feeding him
thestringpuller: wut is ur nationality?
truff1es: no.1
Chaang-Noi: iv not been there for 8 years cuz it was no 1...
Chaang-Noi: but most thai peole think that...
Chaang-Noi: think im crazy for being in thailand
thestringpuller: live like king you do
truff1es: crazy huh
Chaang-Noi: im happy here
ThickAsThieves: kraken is fancy
kakobrekla: fancy
kakobrekla: that is what matters
kakobrekla: on the trading platform
kakobrekla: fancyness.
kakobrekla: UP THIS MOTHERFUCKER!
ThickAsThieves: up this?
Chaang-Noi: he thinks he is on reedit
kakobrekla: he calls his exchange motherfucker?
ThickAsThieves: i'm a guy that appreciates some fancy in my software
kakobrekla: so you are gay?
ThickAsThieves: not that i know of
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3187 BTC [+]
truff1es: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP5rcFQ7Tss Drones Over America: A Booming Business in North Dakota?
ThickAsThieves: possibly by your definition though
truff1es: Chaang-Noi wont find those in thailand?
kakobrekla: tools for pros dont look fancy normally
kakobrekla: tools for dorks do on the other hand
Chaang-Noi: lol drons
truff1es: image was so clear
Chaang-Noi: ah kako bitter?
ThickAsThieves: these things are not mutually attached
ThickAsThieves: pro tools can't look fancy?
Chaang-Noi: fancy is fine, its not a bad thing, but we should look at the things that really do matter
ThickAsThieves: to me it's simply taking pride in your work
kakobrekla: fancy is irrelevant
ThickAsThieves: like wearing a suit when you mean business
davout: fancirrelevant
Chaang-Noi: that is my point, fancy is irrelephant
ThickAsThieves: suits are not needed either
Chaang-Noi: we should talk about the toehr important issues
ThickAsThieves: just wear pajamas to that presentation
Chaang-Noi: i dont even own a suit
truff1es: hwy not
Chaang-Noi: my car says i dont have to :)
ThickAsThieves: something doesnt have to be totally logical to make sense
ThickAsThieves: it only must work within the framework of the game you are playing
Troic_: are you michael knight ?
Chaang-Noi: wage slaves wear suit
Chaang-Noi: just ask zuaburg
Chaang-Noi: zukaburg or whatever
truff1es: if one must be in a position of leadership one must be presentable
Chaang-Noi: i dont lead shit, people just keep folowing my ass...
Troic_: for a particular definition of leadership, stallman leads his horde
truff1es: a suit isnt a requirement to appear presentable imo
Chaang-Noi: i never saught to be a leader, but at times people do follow
truff1es: ure aware of your influence then
Chaang-Noi: sometimes
truff1es: but thats just my opinion on presentation
truff1es: if my boss came to work in pj's id have to really think about who im working for
Chaang-Noi: i have in the past owned and run a business with 15 people
Chaang-Noi: and i wore my pjs before
truff1es: omg!
Chaang-Noi: staff was mostly uni kids but still
kakobrekla: hey listen
kakobrekla: whats the fastest way to get coins
kakobrekla: in the states
truff1es: to me thats like waving your penis around saying oh look at me im the boss
kakobrekla: right now
Chaang-Noi: kako i dont know, why?
kakobrekla: a friend is asking
kakobrekla: i dunno im in yurop
Chaang-Noi: truff pay was based on computer prioven performance
jborkl: buy from gerald
Chaang-Noi: kako fastcash4bitcoins will sell coins if you but 1000 or more
kakobrekla: who is gerald?
Chaang-Noi: truff we had beer in the fridge,. it was clock in out when you wanted
kakobrekla: ok tnx goat thats one option
Chaang-Noi: kako how many you need?
jborkl: fastcash4bitcoins
kakobrekla: i dunno 10k usd +
Chaang-Noi: oh his name is gerald? hahaha
truff1es: ok so that was a casual work environment then
Chaang-Noi: ill sell 10k
kakobrekla: in us?
truff1es: would still have reservations about it
Chaang-Noi: ill need a wire
Chaang-Noi: to a us bank account
kakobrekla: i dunno
kakobrekla: ill ping you if it comes to it
Chaang-Noi: up to you
Chaang-Noi: im okay with escrow btw
Chaang-Noi: if you trust the guy...
kakobrekla: id like to avoid being involved at all but as last resort
Chaang-Noi: if the price drops a lot im out
truff1es: derp
seongyupyoo: hey guys, is mircea here?
seongyupyoo: or anybody who remembers me or NashX?
kakobrekla: he took a walk
kakobrekla: we remember
Chaang-Noi: you mean he is walking his slaves :)
kakobrekla: the guy who wanna send coins to void
seongyupyoo: well i see he's in the room, so maybe he'll be back in a few minutes?
seongyupyoo: hey kako!
kakobrekla: but fastcahs4bitcoin only buys coins ?
kakobrekla: hi seongyupyoo
Chaang-Noi: kako you mean sell?
Chaang-Noi: right you do mean buy
seongyupyoo: well, i made lots of changes to nashx and wanted to get your feedback on it
Chaang-Noi: they will sell but its tricky
Chaang-Noi: they ahve a bunch of hoops and you need to be the right kinda guy and what not
truff1es: Chaang-Noi hope we can hear more about ur reasons after these btc shenanigans
Chaang-Noi: also min is 1000 i think
Chaang-Noi: kako they will sell but its tricky,
Chaang-Noi: truff what?
truff1es: u know our discussion before the pressing stuff
Chaang-Noi: pjs at work?
Chaang-Noi: the job for them was mostly data entry
Chaang-Noi: so i did not give a fuck as long as they did it quickly and correctly
Chaang-Noi: hanging out for an hour or so after the clocked out drinking my beer was fine
truff1es: but were they as casually dressed as u?
Chaang-Noi: i made like $2,000 a day back then
Chaang-Noi: some at times
Chaang-Noi: mostly just wore streat clothing
Chaang-Noi: some were dressed up, cuz other things
Chaang-Noi: its was a 24 hour operation
Chaang-Noi: so yeah my being in pjs some times worked cuz sometimes i slept there, (or not at all)
kakobrekla: is bitinstant working ?
Chaang-Noi: no idea, i dont trust them fuckers
Chaang-Noi: kako you know my issue yesterday?
Chaang-Noi: the 1000 just showed up! wh000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000!!!!
Chaang-Noi: i still have 5000 blocks to do but got damn
Chaang-Noi: send me an address and ill send you a tip as a test payment
Chaang-Noi: but it will take a while to send
thestringpuller: 1000 what
Chaang-Noi: goats
thestringpuller: Chaang-Noi: is a btc millionaire
thestringpuller: you should sign up for the btc millionaire club
Chaang-Noi: no im not, im a ltc millionair
jcpham: btc-e has 10% market volume now in the last week
jcpham: but only in the last 7d
Chaang-Noi: i hope they add a 0 to that
Chaang-Noi: fuck gox
thestringpuller: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 0.452427 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000906658642375 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
seongyupyoo: guys why not trade directly person to person?
thestringpuller: because all the btc millionaires live in the country of europe
Chaang-Noi: that is all i do
seongyupyoo: online?
thestringpuller: what is this kraken.com?
MJR_: has anyone seen my bitcoin wallet?
MJR_: it's the one that says "bad motherfucker"
MJR_: lol jk
MJR_: but i bet someone has a brainwallet from badmotherfucker just for the homage to pulp fiction
jambo_: ;;bids 0.1
gribble: There are currently 999362.89 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.1 USD, worth 14823514.2355 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0091 seconds
jambo_: ;;next
gribble: expecting to test 108 | upper target: 120-123 | updated by OneFixt at May 3 2013, 08:58 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 7 hours, 11 minutes, and 30 seconds ago
jcpham: thestringpuller i just signed up. i like it so far
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3187 BTC [+]
jcpham: seems like i read about it on hn or something a month ago
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00069249 = 3.6702 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3187 = 2.6374 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00499 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00499 BTC [-]
b0n1: is there a bitinstant like company for european so far?
kakobrekla: bitinstant means failing?
error4733: no, mean instan cash deposit in random location
error4733: i dream about this
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3 @ 0.003622 = 0.0109 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: how dares he
kakobrekla: wheres his 1000k btcs for chairty motherfucker*
kakobrekla: *expression apropriate in this case
Diablo-D3: THE FUCK?
Diablo-D3: how the fuck did coinlab fuck up that deal
jambo_: didnt have the infrastructure
jambo_: all they had was a contract. no plans or capabilities afterwards.
Diablo-D3: jambo_: that'd be coinlab refusing to comply with the conditions of the contract
jambo_: correct.
jambo_: the judgement isnt not. who knows, what is they counter-sue?
Diablo-D3: so why isnt mtgox suing them?
Diablo-D3: they should have been to first to sue
jambo_: they dont need to, they make mad money and they just went around them because they couldn't deliver.
jambo_: maybe he was too busy running an empire
Diablo-D3: mtgox is useless to me anyhow
Diablo-D3: they dont comply with US Federal law on data safety
Diablo-D3: and have yet to prove they did
jambo_: really?
Diablo-D3: banks and other companies that handle personal data must jump through hoops to secure it
Diablo-D3: mtgox has not done so
benkay: source on the claim that coinlab didn't have infrastructure sufficient to handle gox handover?
benkay: jambo_?
jambo_: yes?
jambo_: sorry benkay, i dont have any sources, my personal opinion.
benkay: ah ty
jambo_: they couldn't deliver, couldn't even get coins for people trying to pay...
jambo_: I wouldn't be surprised if they counter-sued
benkay: that's generally what happens when lawyers get involved in a thing
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.3187 = 9.2309 BTC [+]
error4733: biggest problem is : boss of each involved partie is on bitcoin fondation board
benkay: foundation is srs bizniss
benkay: you can tell by how they resolve conflicts between board members
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.1089 = 2.178 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: damit
Diablo-D3: nanotube: I know you're there
Diablo-D3: turn on title display for urls
Diablo-D3: make gribble useful damnit
kakobrekla: ;;title
gribble: (title <url>) -- Returns the HTML <title>...</title> of a URL.
Diablo-D3: I want it automatic for bitcointalk urls
kakobrekla: i can hear mp shouting i want to fuck your wife
Diablo-D3: when I get one, Im sure we can negotiate a deal.
truff1es: Indecent Proposal ftw
jambo_: you guys think we hit the floor?
davout: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.50003, Best ask: 92.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.39997, Last trade: 92.90000, 24 hour volume: 273106.52176777, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 94.32426
davout: definitely not
jambo_: thanks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.9199 = 5.7597 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00102 BTC [-]
benkay: $avg
mpexbot: benkay: 93.92
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 6 @ 0.325 = 1.95 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 3 @ 0.00101 = 0.003 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 16 @ 0.001 = 0.016 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.318 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 14 @ 0.1089 = 1.5246 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6970 @ 0.00069303 = 4.8304 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 17 @ 0.0161 = 0.2737 BTC [+]
benkay: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.69332, Best ask: 93.59899, Bid-ask spread: 0.90567, Last trade: 93.59899, 24 hour volume: 261797.37999717, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 93.76582
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1050 @ 0.0031 = 3.255 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 50 @ 0.00301 = 0.1505 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 7 @ 0.003 = 0.021 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 400 @ 0.0029 = 1.16 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.0031 = 0.155 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3178 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.416001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.416 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.415 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.40051 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.4005 = 1.2015 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.400001 = 0.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.40001 BTC [+]
inhies: here you go
inhies: 18.5k btc
nanotube: Diablo-D3: sup. you can use the ;;t command, to grab title of the last url posted in chan.
Scrat: ;;t
gribble: Trump SoHo Condo Selling For $1.9M In Bitcoin Only
Diablo-D3: [03:15:58] <nanotube> Diablo-D3: sup. you can use the ;;t command, to grab title of the last url posted in chan.
Diablo-D3: yeah but I dont want to do the work
kakobrekla: cause its not white
Bugpowder: I had green poop as a kid once
Bugpowder: I had eaten a bunch of grass pretending I was a cow.
Bugpowder: my mom freaked
Bugpowder: I was 3-4 yr old
damientrog: green shit happens
damientrog: nothing to be worried about
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.31 = 2.62 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.31 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.42988 = 0.8598 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4299 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.439 = 1.317 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.44 = 1.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 36 @ 0.00329 = 0.1184 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2981 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.298 = 6.49 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2975 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.2974 = 9.0818 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4615 = 1.3845 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.46140001 = 1.3842 BTC [-]
taub: gox getting lagspammed
taub: pa-the-tic
taub: you need 1 btc
taub: and you can play the goxlag game like a fiddle
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4614 = 0.9228 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.45750001 = 6.8625 BTC [-]
jcpham: there's how if anyone wants to play along
jcpham: check local legalities
taub: yep
taub: well i pointed this out like a month ago
taub: tux knows about it too, doesnt seem to care tho
Scrat: LOL
jcpham: i think if multiple people purposefully try it...
jcpham: legally it's a denial of service and probably a felony in the US
jcpham: ymmv
wao: oh that how we calling our cryptopumps to army
Scrat: inb4 black mtgox helicopters landing outside your house
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2911 BTC [-]
jcpham: it's not very far removed from telling people how to use loic to shut down paypal
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.291 BTC [-]
jcpham: and getting prosecuted for doing it
jcpham: be careful is all i'm saying
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.29 = 2.58 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29 BTC [-]
jcpham: i actual know someone who was indicted for exactly that
MJR_: anyone know a good site for crafting bitcoin transactions?>
MJR_: so, how can i add text into my transactions?
kakobrekla: like you see on blockchain.info?
kakobrekla: thats on top of btc
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.309 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: ;;genrate 25000
gribble: The expected generation output, at 25000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 10076292.8834, is 1.24774687042 BTC per day and 0.0519894529344 BTC per hour.
ThickAsThieves: ;;genrate 2500
gribble: The expected generation output, at 2500.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 10076292.8834, is 0.124774687042 BTC per day and 0.00519894529344 BTC per hour.
ThickAsThieves: ;;genrate 25.2
gribble: The expected generation output, at 25.2 Mhps, given difficulty of 10076292.8834, is 0.00125772884539 BTC per day and 5.24053685578e-05 BTC per hour.
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1089 = 0.2178 BTC [+]
parseval: ;;genrate 240
gribble: The expected generation output, at 240.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 10076292.8834, is 0.0119783699561 BTC per day and 0.00049909874817 BTC per hour.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 13 @ 0.0101 = 0.1313 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.1089 = 0.5445 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.84001, Best ask: 94.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.15999, Last trade: 93.84001, 24 hour volume: 255976.52594918, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 114.73100, 24 hour vwap: 92.64101
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.293 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.292 = 2.584 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.29104 = 2.5821 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: ;;calc 122 / (1 - .539)
gribble: 264.64208243
thestringpuller: ;;seen Syloq
gribble: I have not seen Syloq.
assbot: [BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.4999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 20 @ 0.016 = 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.1089 = 0.8712 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.282075 = 3.8462 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves:
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.291 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0101 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 11 @ 0.0101 = 0.1111 BTC [-]
Namworld: urgh, where's the info on SD's profit for this month?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7320 @ 0.00069549 = 5.091 BTC [+]
damientrog: well that's april if that's what you meant
damientrog: otherwise wise follow the thread on bitcointalk "satoshi dice analysis" by dooglus
thestringpuller: 45466464
damientrog: that guy does fantastisc work
thestringpuller: yes he does
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 15 @ 0.10889 = 1.6334 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 12 @ 0.10889 = 1.3067 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.016 = 0.08 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: soo how's things
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.20001, Best ask: 94.87620, Bid-ask spread: 0.67619, Last trade: 94.87620, 24 hour volume: 252357.52489494, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 110.20000, 24 hour vwap: 91.73894
KRS-1: bouncing cat?
KRS-1: we go down...we come back up but not as much...we go down more...come back up but not as much...
KRS-1: just a day after cnbc calls us gold v2.0
KRS-1: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 234395 | Current Difficulty: 1.0076292883418716E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 235871 | Next Difficulty In: 1476 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 6 hours, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 10015438.6096 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.60394
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 110 @ 0.0029 = 0.319 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.00285 = 0.0428 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 600 @ 0.0029 = 1.74 BTC [+]
mod6: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 95.20103, Best ask: 95.79981, Bid-ask spread: 0.59878, Last trade: 95.79981, 24 hour volume: 251905.49943468, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 109.21000, 24 hour vwap: 91.63934
mod6: $vwap ^OIX
mpexbot: mod6: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 89.62493193 high: 189.09754758 low: 72.04563121 volume: 3490 btc: 1265.76350754 30 day: no data
mircea_popescu: whioa 89 ?
mircea_popescu: remarkably accurate neh
mircea_popescu: !! Non US travelers with ESTA : #airport #customs computer systems down nationwide - only people with a physical VISA are getting in
mircea_popescu: bwahaha this is ridiculous
truffles: they should fly to Romania in protest
error4733: need a 51€ loan
mircea_popescu: Condition:New
mircea_popescu: doiesn't looks so new...
benkay: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 97.63317, Best ask: 97.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.36682, Last trade: 98.00000, 24 hour volume: 246231.22326211, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 109.00000, 24 hour vwap: 91.29097
benkay: $avg
mpexbot: benkay: 91.30
taub: whats oix
mod6: (16:40) < mircea_popescu> remarkably accurate neh << it has a habit of being pretty spot on
taub: oh oix is the number from the options?
mod6: yah, options index
mircea_popescu: ;;google trilema oix
gribble: Introducing the OIX pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/introducing-the-oix/>; Ycombinator continues to suck, jointly and severally pe Trilema - Un ...: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/ycombinator-continues-to-suck-jointly-and-severally/>; Ce este lenea ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2010/ce-este- (1 more message)
ardeay: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 99.00000, Best ask: 99.49000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49000, Last trade: 99.00000, 24 hour volume: 246793.80722528, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 106.29000, 24 hour vwap: 91.24555
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.31999 = 1.28 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.0101 = 0.0303 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2730 @ 0.00069549 = 1.8987 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu MiningBuddy
kakobrekla: dat dude...
Tritonio: So, as a noob in asset markets I come back with a few questions. 1. Isn't the purpose of an IPO to see how much the market is willing to pay? You list for example 1000 shares and then you wait 2 weeks or so for offers. When the IPO is over you start fullfilling orders starting with the highest price per share and going towards the lowest. Did I say something wrong till now?
mircea_popescu: an ipo is just that, an initial public offering. it can fulfill any purpose the entity doing it wishes fulfilled.
mircea_popescu: just as long as it's public, an offering and initial it qualifies.
Namworld: What do you guys think of the latest SD type game, coinroll?
mircea_popescu: haven't seen it myself
Namworld: 0 confirmation, but semi-account based. You don't actually register.
Namworld: Well no fee on each bet is a plus.
Namworld: But doesn't bring much that SD wasn't already providing.
mircea_popescu: basically i don't see anything to set it aside from the whatever, 50 others ?
Tritonio: Thanks mircea. Second question: If I issue 1000 shares, does each share equal 1/1000th of the company? Or can I state in the contract that shares in total acount for, let's say, 51% of the company?
Namworld: Eh, well it's slightly different and elegant. But it's pretty much the same as all the other clones, yeah.
mircea_popescu: Tritonio contract always rules. look at some mpex contracts, bitbet for instance ipod 3mn out of a total of 10
mircea_popescu: mpoe initially offered 1mn out of 1bn shares, then on a 2nd pass offered another 4mn
Namworld: Where can I see the April statement for MPOE?
Namworld: thank you
Tritonio: mircea_popescu, When you offer that another 4mn during the second pass, are the old shares "diluted" or it works like if the second pass shares were owned by the issuer from the beginning?
mircea_popescu: well it can work either way. in this case it worked without dilution.
Tritonio: To work with dillution I suppose you would have to issue more shares, which, depending on the contract, usually needs shareholders agreeing to that, right? Although I am not sure why would they agree to getting dilluted. Unless the expect the company's net worth to rise a lot more (because of the revenue from the sale of the new shares) than the dilution.
mircea_popescu: let's take this apart.
mircea_popescu: to dillute you always issue more shares. this is to be done by whoever has the authority to do it.
Namworld: Yeah, but in this case, it works as profit share. Each share of 1 billion in IPO contract has rights to 1/1'000'000'000 of profits.
mircea_popescu: if the shares vote, then the shareholders do it. if the shares don't vote then the operator does it
Namworld: He's not issuing more shares, he's selling more
mircea_popescu: now, why would someone agree to be diluted, well, it depends. suppose you have a kid and your wife wants another one.
mircea_popescu: will the kid agree to be diluted ? maybe not. then again maybe he wants a brother/sister.
mircea_popescu: can go either way.
Tritonio: So if the operator is the one with the right to issue more shares, he could issue them without asking, and possibly decide to keep them all to himself if the contract doesn't prohibit that. Of course he would fuck up the company and everyone would probably sell their shares and leave but I mean if the contract doesn't stop him, he would be basically running away with the shareholders' money.
Namworld: IDK, usually it's either ask for issuing more shares (like mining companies to buy more stuff)
Tritonio: Namworld, that's my understanding too. The shared already existed in this case and were held by the issuer/operator and he sold more of them in the second pass. I suppose this also means that the operator was getting a bigger portion of the profits of the company before the second pass.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.9449 BTC [+]
Tritonio: (The shares*)
Namworld: Or a preset issued amount, like x million total. Issuer can sell any portion he wants. That's usually for pre-established businesses that don't need to fund acquisitions or whatever.
Namworld: I never saw something different yet
Tritonio: Namworld, the second case is btc-mining's case?
Namworld: That would have been a first case
ezdiy: Tritonio: in that case it equals to non-voting class of shares
ezdiy: Tritonio: ie you're at full mercy of issuer
Tritonio: I thought the idea of the 40% reinvestement was to avoid issuing more shares if not needed..
ezdiy: another favourite scam is to issue new shares, under new company which asset strips the old one
ezdiy: favourite tunneling technique of capital markets
Namworld: What's with the "you will be bankrupt" comment... arf
Namworld: Bondholders lose/gains from Options profit/loss
Namworld: on your blog eh
Namworld: The comment saying you'll be bankrupt in 6 months
mircea_popescu: well those have been a favourite for a while.
mircea_popescu: the best stuff is like
mircea_popescu: [17:56:26] shareholder1 mpex will be classified as money launderers and terrorists
Ukto: "Excessive IRC usage"
Ukto: :P
mircea_popescu: nu-uh, i love using irc.
mircea_popescu: i use it until tears stream down it's cheeks.
mircea_popescu: illustration time!
KRS-1: what irc client do you use
mircea_popescu: o yeah i also use the client, not just irc
KRS-1: she aight..boobs are just a bit too big or misshaped
KRS-1: i use mirc which one do you use
Jambo__: whats up w the market, why is it not crashing? lol
KRS-1: i used to use bitchx for linux
Namworld: lots of bids
mircea_popescu: why'd it be crashing ?
Jambo__: because it's the crash mcmaster
KRS-1: i see gradual dips to nothingness..then a big BOOOOOM...until it lowers to a stable long term price..thats what im thinking..this is a bouncing cat maybe?
KRS-1: definately not tulip rigjht
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2991 BTC [-]
Jambo__: the tuplip show is officially over
Jambo__: i missed the bus on that, silly me
KRS-1: tulip scared me a bit
KRS-1: those are a little big for my liking though..i'm down with the B cup..a nice full B.
Jambo__: KRS, why you think nothingness?
KRS-1: from what i learned markets can boom and tulip..or bouncing cat rising then coming up lower each time to a low low...then somehow reinvestment kindles another boom and then market price settles..this is from what i understand the evolution pattern an investment takes if it doesnt die
KRS-1: i think there are other patterns but i also may be wrong, im still learning quite a bit
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 125 @ 0.00327 = 0.4088 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i suspect entirely too much energy is dedicated to watching the pot boil.
KRS-1: mircea_popescu: do you have any more good pics
mircea_popescu: most would be better spent building services and such
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01003 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: knock yourself out.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1000 @ 0.01002 = 10.02 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 546 @ 0.010001 = 5.4605 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [-]
KRS-1: you are right about the boiling pot thing..folks probably need to make the investment and forget about it..the day traders are the ones with all the effort
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.01 = 0.04 BTC [-]
KRS-1: thanks mircea
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1250 @ 0.01 = 12.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 75 @ 0.00327 = 0.2453 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [-]
KRS-1: haha AWESOME
KRS-1: sup /b/ lol
KRS-1: why are there a bunch of dudes in here I thought most of you folks are heterosexual..wtf
KRS-1: my friends are right about europeans? they are very feminine
mircea_popescu: well... most.
Tritonio: You should account for people that just post this to annoy other people, apperently successfully.
KRS-1: worst thing I ever saw was a gay cowboy..or maybe cop...
KRS-1: theres no cowboys in europe right
mircea_popescu: ok this is hilarious, us is changing calculation of gdp and debt ratio
KRS-1: I'm not a cowboy or "redneck"..but some of my friends are.
mircea_popescu: to show more gdp, less debt
KRS-1: its just an illusion
KRS-1: for more investment maybe
KRS-1: dayyyyum..nice ass.
KRS-1: sup lipppppoper
Namworld: Dividends on S.DICE-PT, S.MPOE-PT, S.BBET-PT all paid
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8030 @ 0.00069303 = 5.565 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 576 @ 0.00069303 = 0.3992 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.10889 = 0.4356 BTC [-]
peterl: namworld - Yay!
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.299 = 12.99 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 654 @ 0.003279 = 2.1445 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu howdy
Chaang-Noi: back in the mids 90s crazy
Chaang-Noi: i expected 60s today
kakobrekla: back to the future
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.41 = 1.23 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.25066 = 0.5013 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.25065 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.15037 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.15007 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.150002 = 0.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 7 @ 0.00064 = 0.0045 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00301 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.003 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 8 @ 0.0016 = 0.0128 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 846 @ 0.003279 = 2.774 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.15001 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.945 = 11.67 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.280001 = 3.84 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.275 = 2.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.2677 = 7.6062 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.26752 = 8.8726 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.26751 = 2.535 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2675 = 3.8025 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.56360, Best ask: 95.63900, Bid-ask spread: 1.07540, Last trade: 94.56460, 24 hour volume: 236396.11148586, 24 hour low: 79.00000, 24 hour high: 101.20663, 24 hour vwap: 90.62399
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P161T] 1 @ 0.77996346 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00328 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00328 = 0.0066 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 8 @ 0.00329 = 0.0263 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P143T] 2 @ 0.58062593 = 1.1613 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 4 @ 0.00329 = 0.0132 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: kinda shocked but it did come in
ThickAsThieves: how much did you sell 700btc for?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.275 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2799 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.288 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2888 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: 2.65 million thb
Chaang-Noi: TAT or around 135$ each
Chaang-Noi: ThickAsThieves ^
ThickAsThieves: why did he pay so much?
Chaang-Noi: it was market price at the time
Chaang-Noi: and he thought it would go up
Chaang-Noi: and it did
Chaang-Noi: but then fell
ThickAsThieves: all while waiting for wire?
Chaang-Noi: he wants it long term so its fine
ThickAsThieves: i want some longterm
Chaang-Noi: i just wnt some local fiat for hookers and blow
ThickAsThieves: but i aint paying 135
ThickAsThieves: thats not your wife/gf in your forum pic?
Chaang-Noi: yeah it is
ThickAsThieves: oh she likes hookers?
Chaang-Noi: she is not found of them no
Chaang-Noi: but really, what can she do? it is expected of powerful/rich males here, so meh
Chaang-Noi: i just cant do it openly here in front of her frineds family
ThickAsThieves: but she'll poison your tea
Chaang-Noi: she could, but i doubt it
Chaang-Noi: shes okay with it, sher could always leave me, but she wont
ThickAsThieves: cuz she likes the money more than you?
Chaang-Noi: she liked me when she thought i had no money
ThickAsThieves: and thought you had no kookers?
Chaang-Noi: she is a pretty good girl honestly
Chaang-Noi: she knew i was a play boy
Chaang-Noi: opr as they say "butterfly"
ThickAsThieves: its odd to me, to have a problem with something, but live with it
ThickAsThieves: like i could see if she didnt care
ThickAsThieves: but she does
ThickAsThieves: this will cause her stress
ThickAsThieves: and stress kills
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