mircea_popescu: meanwhile in random lulz : us citizen notable enough for ro.wikipedia but "unknown" by en.wikipedia
mircea_popescu: "nobody can remember" wikipedia's roots as ye pre-reddit pedoclub
mircea_popescu: Mocky, wait, what ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: claims he was ro citizen also?
asciilifeform: ( in linked piece )
mircea_popescu: wasn't born there
mircea_popescu: usg academi-bezzler.
asciilifeform: clinton pedocircuit ?
mircea_popescu: well, chicago school of ameritardation.
mircea_popescu: friends of the recently suicided dude.
mircea_popescu: all sorta things "nobody is aware of" in the reich, somehow.
mircea_popescu: must be from all the awareness raising.
asciilifeform suspects that 'pedo is the new faggotry' in the 19th c brit sense , i.e. 'want to be toady of hitler? gotta give him some primo kompromat for you'
mircea_popescu: should be lulzy once the "rights gain" machine finally excavates these, too
mircea_popescu: back a decade ago /me was wondering outloud on trilema if it's gonna be necros or pedos next
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the dreidl has landed.
asciilifeform: or, to reformulate, they 'all pedos' for same reason theatrical puppets have string loops
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-05#1933780 << the 'social media / "platform" void'; take any one of 'em, be it twitter, facebook, reddit. They all have the similar mechanic of the "newsfeed" in which (unlike the republic's logs / blogs) you cannot reference things > 3 weeks ago.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 00:25:59 mircea_popescu: "nobody can remember" wikipedia's roots as ye pre-reddit pedoclub
lobbes: Just reinforces the already short attention span of the consumer, creating a nifty simulacrum of "feeling connected to the world"
lobbes: I genuinely believe that the newer generation sincerely cannot remember, even if they claim to be paying attention
asciilifeform: lobbes: often enuff, pieces that only ~hours~ old, evaporate
asciilifeform: fughet , even, 'weeks'
mircea_popescu: lol, we seen some
lobbes: it is funny, too, because even in the older days of the webforums "necroposting" was a taboo for some reason
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's necessary, because they're so utterly wrong in everything
mircea_popescu: empire gotta be 0-memory or else it can't be at all.
mircea_popescu: lobbes, i never understood that at the time, wtf, rarely new threads as interesting as old. but...
mircea_popescu: incipient zekism.
lobbes: ditto. all makes sense nao
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in kindergarten wtf's
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 00:02:23 verisimilitude: I'm starting work on networking libraries in Ada; I've started with UDP; I'd appreciate receiving some thoughts on this package specification:
mircea_popescu: menalone central huh
asciilifeform: lol mostly bot test central thesedays
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in UY-CN relations https://archive.is/iiAVH
BingoBoingo: Chinese Defense Minister came for a visit. Some BRI stuff signed, China agreed to retrofit one of the UY Navy ships.
mircea_popescu: anyone wanna do a paypal for me btw ?
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933662 << you're likely the only pillar left supporting it.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 11:18:52 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933632 << i'ma move from emacs to 21st c. lispm. or, to grave. tertium non datur.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933750 << how about bespoke leather machinery ? i got some needs...
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 20:29:15 asciilifeform: for next go-around , perhaps will get sheet metal bending machine and may as well make the 1u cages from sheets also.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933752 << i can see the logic.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 20:32:57 asciilifeform: in the early days, iirc mircea_popescu scoffed that 'spending fat dough to fly steel sheets' but they're in fact the magick ingredient that gets the internals through orc customs .
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933778 << not really matters ; they're all ~empty in any practical sense.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 23:31:40 lobbes: Of course this is with a near-empty database (not sure how much this matters, tbh). Will be taken offline shortly though for more testing
lobbes: okay, got the kinks worked out of my mirror of the logz (I think) >> http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log
lobbes: bot is ericbot, call command is !e
lobbes: looks like the last db dump from logs.nosuchlabs.com was from a few hours before I imported, so missing a few lines still. However the majority of 'em are there
lobbes: once the lastest daily dump is out I will fill in the gaps
lobbes: off to bed, but plox to let me know if any funkiness is observed
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-05#1933827 - mind stating the IP as well and as a rule for new urls please/
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 03:40:55 lobbes: okay, got the kinks worked out of my mirror of the logz (I think) >> http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2019/09/05/a-summers-summary-and-next-steps-in-eulora/ << Ossa Sepia -- A Summer's Summary and Next Steps in Eulora
lobbes: diana_coman: thank you for the reminder: 22.214.171.124
diana_coman: lobbes: nice!
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-05#1933819 << i know 2 in meatspace ( one -- i taught ; other -- learned from ) but yes there are prolly not so many people still using actual emacs ( vs the 'modernized' horror that auto-downloads 9000 crapolas )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 02:09:32 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933662 << you're likely the only pillar left supporting it.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-05#1933821 << you're almost certainly better off with the services of actual tailors , lol. but, outta curiosity, what sort of 'machinery' ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 02:13:13 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933750 << how about bespoke leather machinery ? i got some needs...
asciilifeform pictures mircea_popescu reply 'i want parabellum holster just like what wilhelm II had !'
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-05#1933827 << congrats , lobbes !! lemme know if you want an unscheduled dump so can sync lines .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 03:25:22 lobbes: okay, got the kinks worked out of my mirror of the logz (I think) >> http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log
asciilifeform: lobbes: you can also sync the way diana_coman did , using the raw dump knob and eater .
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, you know, ankle/wrist cuffs by my own designs, posture collars, garter belts...
mircea_popescu: if women were horses the leather they;d hoof in
BingoBoingo: As far as sourcing materials go, this would be the place to plant a workshop.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Remember the couple feria streets that were just piles of leather on top of more leather.
mircea_popescu: i was very unimpressed with the quality of workmanship wheni was in ag.
BingoBoingo: Local workmanship no. Local bulk tanned hides, yes
BingoBoingo: Sold out of backs of horsecarts in Sunday street market like god intended
asciilifeform: there are ( were ? ) people who knew how to leather .
asciilifeform in ar saw such abundance of leather briefcases, coats, etc. at the flea markets, such that will prolly never see again, and all imho mighty fine, and for pennies. i still regret not buying any.
asciilifeform: in related sads, those boots i got in ro, finally fell apart, from daily abuse
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, no shortage of fine leather tho. shortage of fine leatherworker
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, problem here is that what i want ~doesn't exist. what you describe works wunderbar if one wants a very common item, yes.
asciilifeform: rright, you want tailored .
asciilifeform: this makes sense. tailored, as in , fella with measuring tape, measures.
asciilifeform wonders whether motorcyclists all buy 'pret a porter' or there is in fact tailor somewhere who works these
mircea_popescu: honestly, for all the idle puffery to the contrary, i am coming to discover that i'm in all likelyhood the first to do the shit i do, and possibly only one to have ever attempted, throughout history.
mircea_popescu: so, needless to say, ~0 chances of running into the tools "floating down the river" so to speak
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is also a decent proxy for insanity. (what else is insanity, than consistently dealing with problems nobody else dealt with ?)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if only it were only mircea_popescu who regularly discovers this...
mircea_popescu: kinda, my experience of sexuality's a lot like your experience of it.
mircea_popescu: "dude wtf, if you're gonna do this, why the fuck do it so derpily!"
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: you know, this trouble with "what I want doesn't exist" I tend to have for the simplest of items to wear, not even going for leather straps at all, lol.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, shoes, too, i bet.
mircea_popescu: traditionally the lot of womanhood!
diana_coman: and I wouldn't count it as "nobody did this before" either, I think I still have some patterns in grandmother's attic ffw
mircea_popescu: what, for restraining leather garter belts ?!
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: oh yes, shoes.
diana_coman: ahahah, didn't search for *those*
asciilifeform: ( to take trivial example : at one time i designed a 'fg 2' that uses scintillator crystal . background radiation is moar than enuff to make this go. however also need a reverse-biased large surface diode for detecting pulses. these need a clean (i.e. not from oscillating converter) ~60 volt. then thought : 'this is simple, all would need is 20 x 3v photocells in series, in epoxy. surely someone sells this !! guess wat. )
mircea_popescu: that;s the infuriating part, "man, this shit's so obvious!"
asciilifeform: it's imho a fucktonne moar obvious than some of the shit sold for similar purpose (e.g. piezo transformers, work a++ but entirely unsuitable, cuz, again, oscillator)
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: do you remember by any chance *where* did you say explicitly that one's less by precisely their investment/time outside the republic?
mircea_popescu: no, but it sounds a lot like something i wish i said.
diana_coman: I know for sure you did, just need to... find it.
mircea_popescu: im gonna have to put a search in won't i.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i even went and looked among the 'audiophile' idjits -- y'know, the folx who attach rubidium clocks to their cd players 'for cleaner wave', buy holy water, operate factory in texas where 9v batteries (yes) still made with 1940 tech (why, cannot say, but 'for Troo Authentic sound' somewhere...) -- nodice
diana_coman: it might be in the logs too.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: pretty sure this line was in log
asciilifeform goes to look, but -- as usual -- comes up empty
diana_coman: myeah, I had been searching for a while before asking; I'll have to do with my own asking for the thing I can't yet find, won't I.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, part of the problem is that i think we index things very differently ; your words don't trigger my memory. do you remember any actual words that were definitely in there ?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: I thought "less of a man" was in there but I can't say I'm 100% sure
diana_coman: I also think it might have been in reply to one of asciilifeform's threads re how he can't escape (hence possibly why it rings a bell with him?) but again, if I knew exactly, I'd have found it by now.
asciilifeform: dun think it was in these ; but since i can't recall exactly where , could be wrong
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: possibly I'll find it later as inner-indexing tends to keep working in the background after one of those anyway and pops up with the result some days from now or such shit.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-05#1933867 << in usa this is worse than anyone could believe, asciilifeform is ~still~, 2y later, looking for equiv. of those boots, for any price that's less than 'ticket to ro again'. 0 result.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 12:24:47 diana_coman: mircea_popescu: you know, this trouble with "what I want doesn't exist" I tend to have for the simplest of items to wear, not even going for leather straps at all, lol.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Redwing 606 is probably as close as your local market has.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i fucking hate laces tho
asciilifeform: at any rate that's merely 1 example .
asciilifeform: thinking again today about this , and dug, found in fact that toshiba & coupla others offer ~single~ cell led<->photovoltaic pieces. and that could prolly connect these in series for the desired effect...
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 12:25:58 asciilifeform: ( to take trivial example : at one time i designed a 'fg 2' that uses scintillator crystal . background radiation is moar than enuff to make this go. however also need a reverse-biased large surface diode for detecting pulses. these need a clean (i.e. not from oscillating converter) ~60 volt. then thought : 'this is simple, all would need is 20 x 3v photocells in series, in epoxy. surely someone sells this !! guess wat. )
asciilifeform unsurprisingly found 0 record of anyone having ever done this for any purpose whatsoever .
bvt: hello. asciilifeform: answered your comment. diana_coman: the logline you were looking for seems to be this: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-03-19#1903465 , as a rephrase of http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2018-11-10#1870880 discussion
snsabot: Logged on 2019-03-19 18:52:57 mod6: Because like we discussed before, some paraphrasing "man puts in 20% of time is 20% of a man".
snsabot: Logged on 2018-11-10 19:40:02 mircea_popescu: so to summarize : 1. one hour (!?) wrangling with auctionbot on the 4th (the result still wrong) ; 2. 2 hours handling three conflated processes (why do you keep notes as an intermediate step ?) on the 5th ; 3. 1 hour reading logs on the 6th ; 4. half hour reading logs on the 7th ; 5. 1.3 h mostly brainstorming on the 8th ? ; 6. half hour doing... i don't know what on the 9th ; 7. 4 (four ?!) hours doing i still don't know wh
diana_coman: bvt: it is, thank you!!
asciilifeform: bvt: answered.
asciilifeform: meanwhile in chance finds of vintage lulz. ( de-pdfized of the engl. text. ) ( and see also . )
diana_coman: basically my "less of a man" was more precisely "20% of a man", ahem.
diana_coman: but hm, I still think mod6's line actually paraphrased a different discussion and I quite distinctly remember it said by mircea_popescu ; if my memory of it is any good, ofc.
bvt: diana_coman: ok, http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-04#1900385 ?
bvt: more precisely, http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-03-04#1900385
snsabot: Logged on 2019-03-04 16:14:16 mircea_popescu: empire does not in any factual sense exist. man who works 70% of the time for idiots is === the remaining 30% of that man.
diana_coman: bvt: yes! that one indeed; and look at that, it *was* in one of asciilifeform's threads indeed.
diana_coman: thank you bvt for digging it fully up!
diana_coman: I see also more clearly my usual trouble finding sources: the original exact bit is deep in the roots while the part easily found is the tip of the tree grown from those roots, huh.
diana_coman: !!v B54F424D889826858C750E85977ABC64B6EA6BBBC8EF678E174602F8295C82CB
deedbot: diana_coman updated rating of bvt from 1 to 2 << knows where things are in the logs! + useful work towards a republican kernel; writes at http://bvt-trace.net
bvt: i kind of remembered that it had something with to do with percentages, this surfaced out mod6's message; when you mentioned that the result is still ~wrong, remembered that it had something to do with "man who invests X% of time into empire...", used phf's log for a keyword search.
bvt: asciilifeform's searcher matches 'many' when looking for 'man', produces too many results to filter through all of them (thought the line was there too)
bvt: ty for rating!
diana_coman: bvt: you need to search for "man" so it doesn't return "many" if you want exact match
diana_coman: i.e. use "" for exact match
bvt: would not work: http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=time+man vs http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log-search?q=time+%22man%22&chan=trilema
diana_coman: ah, you are right; that sort of thing is still on to-do list, yes.
mircea_popescu: nice archival work there bvt !
mircea_popescu: spyked, "the painstaking labour involved in moving every post to MP-WP (plus fixing the links) would take a yet-to-be-determined amount of time" << why is this to be a pain ?
mircea_popescu: consider the other side : you add comments ; but then trackbacks ?
mircea_popescu: in any case, it is outright impossible to answer your "wat do" question as stated ; because it's in fact multiple questions.
mircea_popescu: 1. re blog, i do not currently believe it makes any sense to have blogs in anything but php ; 1.a with the exception that trying out things (as opposed to, production) is trying out things, and people can try out whatever ~they feel like~ (while they're stuck producing what works).
mircea_popescu: 2. re lisp, i do believe finishing the hutch story is very useful.
mircea_popescu: but imo it's folly to try and marry 1 to 2 because of what's, ultimately, merely a name coincidence.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he does seem to have an almost-working (i.e. all but for comments) cl blogotron, unlike errybody else, tho.
asciilifeform would also like to hear the full hunchentoot vivisection .
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-05#1933928 << this is correct. btw lobbes , diana_coman , ( others ? ) -- if no one is presently looking at this, then i'ma do it, the lack of quoted search is grating to asciilifeform also
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 17:33:34 diana_coman: ah, you are right; that sort of thing is still on to-do list, yes.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: I'm rather deep into http://ossasepia.com/2019/09/05/a-summers-summary-and-next-steps-in-eulora/?b=writing&e=#select atm so not presently looking at the logger, no.
asciilifeform: ty diana_coman . if lobbes also occupied, i'ma do it
asciilifeform: cuz it needs doin'
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/09/black-south-africans-turn-violently-against-other-black-africans-as-migration-raises-tensions/ << Qntra -- Black South Africans Turn Violently Against Other Black Africans As Migration Raises Tensions
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, all but for comments which, once done, will expose all but for trackbacks and all but for antisspam
mircea_popescu: and then all but for image autoresizing and then all but for x y z
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly other missing knobs also (search?)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: your wp has automated image resizing ??
asciilifeform back in '07 sewed his php wp with 'fascism' , it can only write to db, not to disk directly ; so was never able to use the bitmap processing , www uploader, related, features
mircea_popescu: trilema has rhe advantage of size, dun particularly want to put anything else on box, so dun so muich care
asciilifeform: right, and lotsa good photoreportage , i suspect it helps that mircea_popescu can plug camera almost straight to bl0g w/out sweating
mircea_popescu: very much.
mircea_popescu: i shall belabour this point
mircea_popescu: what people don't realise is just HOW unlinear the returns are.
BingoBoingo: I kinda worry about the process fascism which has asciilifeform's 2018 Uruguay journey still largely un photoblogged
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu has point, he has 9000x moar painless workflow re photos
mircea_popescu: the naive view is to think that making the cost 10% less will result in... what, 10% more output ? if it takes me 9 seconds of unpleasant laboru instead of 10, i'll just do 11 images instead of 10.
mircea_popescu: this is exactly false : what actually happens is that if the labour's over threshold the output is 0, and if it's under the output is x. like a transistor exactly
asciilifeform: forward voltage lol
mircea_popescu: AND THEN!!! the marginal increase is exactly like in exam lists. anyone saw ever one of those, 100 people per place sovok things ? 10.0 9.99 9.99 9.99 9.98
mircea_popescu: and so ongoing, 100 people before 9.8 is reached /
mircea_popescu: EXACTLY the same thing. "what's an extra point ?" "dude are you kidding me, it's the difference between leningrad and urals"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily, these not only in sovok. ( but then again asciilifeform 20y ago lol )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in 'modern' usa they like to 'normalize exam' to make the visual spread look bigger, for some reason
mircea_popescu: myeah. weirdos.
mircea_popescu: anyway, imto bed.
asciilifeform: goodnight mircea_popescu
trinque: hey lookie there, drunkbot still connected.
trinque: there may be a brief deedbot outage as I beat the old version with a wrench and deploy new
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/09/microsoft-invites-stallman/ << Qntra -- Microsoft Invites Stallman
trinque: !!gettrust deedbot trinque
deedbot: L1: 1, L2: 7 by 7 connections.
trinque: alrighty, new release!
trinque: now with even less cron-kill-loop