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crtdaydreams: << U mean housing market, register for wot or floods?
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-27 21:16:14 vex: cdd whtchu reckon kid? sink or swim?
crtdaydreams: call it nurunuru chan or somethin. ya could probably score a .ru tld for a memorable domain.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-27 21:26:22 vex: i'm trying to thing of an awesome. jp honorific for verisimilitude's yotsuba
crtdaydreams: << To answer anyway; Housing market's fucked, don't touch it. Register for WoT, become flesh. Swim.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 06:36:23 crtdaydreams: << U mean housing market, register for wot or floods?
thimbronion: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $40630.6
billymg: NASDAQ collapsing, bitcoin UP!
billymg: reference to this old tardstalk thread:
billymg: my trbexplorer instance is almost synced now, at 708k (it's been running almost 11 days continuous)
billymg: whaack: dunno if you tested that, but i think it would be fair for you to list the sync time as ~12 days provided one starts with a fully synced trb. i don't think it's fair to trbexplorer to have to include trb's slow sync time
billymg: shinohai: lol, these fucking people
shinohai: While they are pouring vodka into sewers and banning Russians on soshul media, why not dump all their ETH since Vitalik is Russian?
thimbronion: shinohai: lulz at shithub. Who could have predicted?
billymg: shinohai: excellent idea re: dump putin coin
shinohai: Guess asciilifeform better pack it up too
asciilifeform: shinohai: a++ lulz. ban'em from shithub, from microshit, embargo all shipments of donald duck stickers & lgbtpqrs flags etc
shinohai imagines dumbfucks chopping up fuckgoats with an axe ....
asciilifeform: shinohai: pretty sure already featured in 'mp footshoot show' but can't recall precisely, lol
billymg: seen in a heathen pit: "amd/intel will stop selling chips to russia, what does this mean? no more nsa backdoors"
asciilifeform: импортозамещение (tm)(r)(c)
thimbronion: Elbrus's time to shine!
thimbronion: They can just build beowulf clusters using russian made z80s
shinohai: bwahahahaha
asciilifeform: fwiw if ru had its shit together (i.e. had been fully de-eltsinized) there'd be no ukrs, the latter would've been rm -rf'd no later than '14
cgra: << close enough to ponder whether finland's next, or what was going on again
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-27 19:22:54 verisimilitude: Joking aside, is anyone here even near Russia?
BingoBoingo: A machine died, been saltmining, may take a while to catch up to log
asciilifeform: wb BingoBoingo !
BingoBoingo: In the past month US down ~19% versus Brasil's Real, 5.3% versus Peso Uruguay
shinohai salutes BingoBoingo o7
billymg: good to see you again, BingoBoingo
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 10:56:06 shinohai: In Shithub lulz:
verisimilitude: Oh say, I recently learned two more irregular Latin adjectives; MAGNVS is positive, MĀIOR comparative, and MĀXIMVS superlative; the same pattern plays with PARVVS, MINOR, and MINIMVS. I wonder why.
thimbronion: wb BingoBoingo
verisimilitude: I was never taught the full name of Jupiter in school, either, JVPPITER OPTIMVS MĀXIMVS.
signpost: ok, these propaganda videos with the hot ukr girls are pretty entertaining.
signpost: << apparently, now that ukraine's been broken, can not only join NATO but perhaps EU!
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-21 17:50:37 asciilifeform: ( see also old man milosevic .)
asciilifeform: wainot straight to 51st us state, lol
signpost: asciilifeform: I was surprised to learn recently that there are, in fact, neo-nazi militias in the ukr army.
dulapbot: (trilema) 2014-03-12 asciilifeform: 'The guest post from Renée last week appeared on this blog because Huffington Post refused to run it. And now I hear that no comment linking the new Ukrainian government to the neo-Nazis or the neo-Nazis to the mass murder in Kiev can get through on any news site. It seems like there is an actual news blackout on this message.'
asciilifeform: signpost: they have seats in parliament, private armies, etc. and eagerly cosplay
asciilifeform: 100% usg noose blackout re subj tho
asciilifeform: (ukronazis have public www's, w/out any shame, but conveniently none afaik in engl.)
asciilifeform: were instrumental in the '14 usg coup in ukristan.
signpost: makes sense; we're backing al qaeda in yemen now, or have we changed sides again.
signpost: europe too looks like it's being brought to ruin to keep it subordinated to the US.
signpost is not suddenly realizing this, but noting a new level of brazenness.
asciilifeform: were ruined already in '45, when converted to satrapies of washington
signpost: no argument to contrary, but seems like someone thinks the grass has gotten too tall over there.
signpost: not like US can supplement their natgas, or agriculture, at sufficient scale.
asciilifeform: '45..'16 was not so bad thing to be washington's sofa. cleaned, polished, not sat on too vigorously. then tighter belts in printoladistan, and sofa -- to furnace
signpost: last boomer gift before death will be total loss of the empire.
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $41152.89
asciilifeform: sadly empire very much still inbiz; ^ no chg in # of 0s
verisimilitude: Oh no, not the Ukrainian neo-Nazis; they probably don't even believe a man can give birth!
signpost: here comes the *chan guy making edgy pro-nazi comments.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: this'd describe ~100% of orc world, not simply the cosplay folx parading in grandfather's ss uniform
verisimilitude: I'm being sarcastic, asciilifeform.
PeterL: sarcasm doesn't carry well over text
verisimilitude: No ``neo-Nazi'' is a member of the German party; it's a misnomer.
verisimilitude: The amusing exhaustion of the term ``nazi'' doesn't help.
signpost: are communists not also such because they aren't all in the same national party?
verisimilitude: I'd thought the exclamation mark would help, PeterL.
signpost: by mass, earth's weaklings are mostly white, verisimilitude.
shinohai: I just gave birth to a 1lb brown bundle of joy, wanna see pics verisimilitude ?
verisimilitude: Communism, like Jewry, knows no such borders, signpost.
verisimilitude: I don't want a toilet picture, no, shinohai.
shinohai: ghehehehe
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: ukristan is a kind of 'jurassic park' where plain old, w/out 'neo', nazis (i.e. direct inheritors of '41-'44 attempt at 'europeanization') still alive & kickin'
dulapbot: (trilema) 2018-05-14 asciilifeform: there's a common set of jokes from su, q: 'if only we let germany win, we'd be drinking bavarian! riding in mercedes!' a: '... yes, ride in mercedes. but -- as the leather seat.'
verisimilitude: Alright; personally, I don't care about Ukraine, but that's interesting to learn.
signpost: verisimilitude: that jewry gave you many of your most important physicists, etc.
signpost: you're a crass idiot from an easy life.
verisimilitude: I'm not criticizing Jews, signpost, just making a comparison, since Marx was Jewish.
verisimilitude: I admire some of the computing pioneers, such as John McCarthy, but I've not read much about his religious beliefs or lack thereof.
verisimilitude: I'm anything but an idiot, signpost, regardless of what anyone thinks of me.
verisimilitude: I seem to have struck a nerve with signpost, however; why not explain ``by mass, earth's weaklings are mostly white'', even though I didn't get upset about that, signpost?
PeterL: I suppose the current conflict will help the nationalists in Ukr, "look at our brave heroes defending our homeland, we are so much cooler than anybody else"
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: moar interesting is the 'big pic' -- the current war in fact started from 4th crusade, and continues episodically in form of various 'drang nach osten' by impoverished western eureichs, who will not give up dream of 'lebensraum' and delish phree minerals from 'unfairly squatted by orcs' 1/6th of planet3
verisimilitude: While I appreciate these explanations, asciilifeform, they may be wasted on me.
asciilifeform: at one pt, reich installed mole (gorby) and 'won', and feasted on the delish minerals + sawed-up su industrial base & manpower for all of '90s
asciilifeform: then 'unwon' and 'omfg111'
signpost: verisimilitude: the 4chan "fascists" will not survive a great depression. you are among them.
signpost: stating this fact does not mean I am upset.
verisimilitude: I don't use 4chan's /pol/, signpost.
verisimilitude: I don't use 8kun either.
verisimilitude: I don't foresee any such survival woes.
asciilifeform: today's cosplay fascisms -- project of same folx as baked prev. set in '30s.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-08-09 13:06:33 asciilifeform: thimbronion: dulles for his part was working for same folx who had commissioned and funded hitler to begin with.
verisimilitude: Why pick on the fascists, and not the insect-like communists swarming around in the cities, who are even worse off?
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: exactly same people, lol, in diff. costumes
verisimilitude: They're certainly just labels to an extent, yes.
signpost: verisimilitude: the reason you will fail is that you think you will be recognized by something powerful someday, which is a slave's idea of power.
verisimilitude: What's wrong about acknowledging most people shouldn't have even the illusion of any political power, signpost?
signpost: "were the fascists in power they'd pat me on the head for my latin studies"
verisimilitude: Now, signpost, I don't want to sling insults, but I don't think this way.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: the consistent pov would be to also not show up when they're handing out costumes & alt-illusion
asciilifeform: the costume, verisimilitude , dun do anyffin. recall the legendary warning printed on 'superman' costume in u.s. toystores -- 'warning: does not enable flight'
verisimilitude: I wasn't aware, but that's amusing.
asciilifeform: apropos.
asciilifeform: ss costume needs similar tag: 'warning: does not enable blitzkrieg'; 'communist' costume needs similar; etc
verisimilitude: I reject labels for this reason, but I could be considered ``fascist'' or ``authoritarian'' in my beliefs.
signpost: heh, and "no step on snek" flag does not turn one into jefferson
verisimilitude: Even a monarchy doesn't have some of the issues current society has.
asciilifeform: signpost: for instance.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: iirc yer in favour of honest monarchism, i.e. where openly declared god-emperor, rather than current lizard's rule by illusion. cosplaying serves the latter.
signpost: verisimilitude: listen, your use of "negro" and "jewry", you're the internet tough guy that thinks world *ought to* elevate you.
signpost: go, elevate.
verisimilitude: Honesty is always better, yes.
verisimilitude: I'm elevating myself, signpost.
asciilifeform does not begrudge folx their costume hobbies, but reserves right to lol when sees symptoms of folx thinking the superman cape enables flight.
signpost: this exactly.
verisimilitude: I'm not learning Latin so that senpai will notice me, but to learn for its own sake.
verisimilitude: I'm in this channel because I for now respect some of the people here as my betters, and wish to learn more from them.
verisimilitude: I use the technical terms for referring to groups of people, signpost.
signpost: you use them because they're cheap ways to say "and at least I'm not them"
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i rec to think re whether the contemplated groups actually exist as pictured, rather than in wardrobe of lizards' costume theatre.
verisimilitude: I can't be glad I'm the way I'm?
signpost: curious how far up the nazi racial hierarchy verisimilitude finds himself.
asciilifeform: for instance, folx who think 'at least we're white, our shithole will never approach zimbabwe' have surprise coming (e.g. ukristan at approx. level of zimbabwe for 20+y nao, by whatever metric you like)
verisimilitude: I think of it less that way, and more by intelligence. Everyone here is probably more intelligent than %95 of the population, signpost.
signpost: look also at what the british did to themselves.
signpost: verisimilitude: yes, and I'm potato irish, southern italian, greek, and a few other things the wehrmacht would've chewed up given time
verisimilitude: I don't see how that's my problem.
signpost: "hold still buddy, we'll cut those off of the british part"
signpost: verisimilitude: those are all people with greatness. there is no problem.
verisimilitude: I think signpost is trapped in the issue of ``The Nazis did eugenics, thus eugenics are bad.''.
verisimilitude: Breed dogs and horses and everything under the sun, but man is special for some reason.
signpost: yes, because man always thinks he can construct an authority greater than reality itself to decide who goes into the woodchipper.
verisimilitude: Oh yes, it's so bad when the nazis do it, but what about the communists and every other group on the planet who also do it?
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: the actual problem wasn't even the woodchipper, but w/ being tools of the lizards. (old man adolph discarded as soon as 'went off reservation')
signpost: verisimilitude: rejecting naziism does not imply approval of communism. what is this, american politics now?
verisimilitude: Every group kills others, with few exceptions, signpost.
verisimilitude: This ``woodchipper'' is just nature.
PeterL: what is even the difference between nazi and communist?
asciilifeform: PeterL: the diff is what remains after take off the costumes.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 14:43:20 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: moar interesting is the 'big pic' -- the current war in fact started from 4th crusade, and continues episodically in form of various 'drang nach osten' by impoverished western eureichs, who will not give up dream of 'lebensraum' and delish phree minerals from 'unfairly squatted by orcs' 1/6th of planet3
signpost: verisimilitude: I take this as hopeless men projecting their suicidality on all they encounter.
signpost: "there is nothing to do but decide who will be butchered" and there's a practically infinite universe to expand into.
verisimilitude: Were I suicidal, I'd have killed myself already.
verisimilitude: I chose to learn and create, instead.
asciilifeform: PeterL: in 1900s, as inescapable consequence of industrialization planet3 was carved up into totalitarian reichs. these have gone and will continue to go by various names, issue costumes.
signpost: for example, men who were not cowards would've immediately sought alliance with the dissolved USSR.
signpost: Putin asked Clinton about joining NATO. this was the correct move.
signpost: even from the perspective of ultimate solipsistic selfishness.
signpost: consider the achievement of the ISS; that was done as *enemies*
PeterL: so is there a difference between reich of Putin and reich of Biden, other than the color of the uniforms?
verisimilitude: Putin is cooler.
verisimilitude: He's also not senile, right?
PeterL: Biden has non-senile pushing the buttons, I assume
PeterL: s/non-senilte people
PeterL: bah, can't type today
signpost: asciilifeform: entirely possible that orwell's wrong about one bit, the stability of the machine.
signpost: looks to be ratcheting into use of the bombs.
signpost: PeterL: I don't think it matters, because much of the counter-attack for any button press is automated.
signpost: when one reads the history of the cold war, it's clear we survived entirely by accident.
verisimilitude: I agree that space is cooler and a better pursuit; where do I sign up, signpost?
verisimilitude: Should I pull myself into space by my bootstraps?
verisimilitude: I do what I can.
signpost: listen arguing with you isn't total condemnation.
signpost: but yeah, most you can do is have kids so your great grandkids might have a shot.
signpost: you and I are most likely going to live through war. the empire will be saying it'll stay provincial until it doesn't.
signpost: well, most likely die through war, lol.
verisimilitude: Who knows. Maybe the lizards will finally show us the aliens instead.
PeterL: you think more likely somebody invades US or US devolves into civil war?
signpost: a friend of mine and I have an ongoing humorous thread about humans being a client species.
verisimilitude: Explain, signpost.
verisimilitude: I've read WWIII will be started before USCWII.
PeterL: *citation needed
verisimilitude: The reasoning is the USG would survive the former, but not the latter.
signpost: verisimilitude: such as.. all our messianic and "end of days" myths are loosening us up for their arrival.
signpost: side note, it'd entertain the hell out of me if whatever objects zipping around turned out to be actual non-human machinery, *and* they haven't even noticed we're here.
signpost: we're just that uninteresting.
signpost: they pop by to refuel on water, and depart a seemingly uninhabited planet.
verisimilitude: Oh, so this is more Lovecraftian is it?
signpost: former is, latter is how I think it'd actually work.
signpost: humans rounding to chimps by any lasting measure of civilization.
signpost: imagine how easy it would be for an external adversary, should one exist, to cause total destruction on earth given that all of earth's weapons are aimed at one's own head.
verisimilitude: There have been many jokes to that effect, yes.
asciilifeform: << 'die not the straw death'(tm)(r)(allfather odin). fwiw asciilifeform likes to mention to locals 'washington real estate expensive cuz errybody wants to live on the bull's eye, not worry about fallout'
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 15:24:11 signpost: well, most likely die through war, lol.
asciilifeform: ( moscow real estate fwiw costs similarly. )
verisimilitude: That's amusing.
asciilifeform: sadly not literally factual -- e.g. highest bull's eye density in usa in fact north dakota, and iirc still pretty cheap.
PeterL: why would you target north dakota?
asciilifeform: PeterL: silos
asciilifeform: PeterL: almost all nukes traditionally aimed at the supposed location of other nukes
signpost: I figure ports too.
PeterL: I've heard that my town is a decent target if somebody wanted to disrupt production of e.g. consumer plastics, I'm not sure how true though
asciilifeform: signpost: ports + errything else strictly 2ndary
signpost: probably the fragility of supply chains ranks far above nuclear attack, though even if we're talking about nukes only hitting other launchers, I'd expect substantial fallout. taking those out isn't going to involve detonation at altitude.
signpost: re: supply chains and infrastructure, texas may even crumble at the next chilly day, needs no cyber-attacker.
verisimilitude: It's amazing how multiple countries have nuclear missiles, but LSI semiconductor manufacturing is increasingly concentrated; that shows how much more natural nuclear weapons are than computers.
verisimilitude: Well, VLSI.
asciilifeform: '40s tech moar distributed than '90s -- noose at 11
asciilifeform: meanwhile... cement testbed at 500+k.
asciilifeform does not recall if at that height most blox already 'heavy', may yet walk even slower than previously if notyet
signpost: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $43275.48
signpost: still truckin.
asciilifeform: well, in circles, lol. but truckin
verisimilitude: Running in circles is a sign of life, at least unless it be an ant death-spiral.
thimbronion: 200 day moving average is roughly 20k
thimbronion: er, hm, I meant week
thimbronion: moves up only
thimbronion formally requests from shinohai 200 wma stat from busybot
shinohai: $mabtc
shinohai: $mabtc
shinohai: well I tried thimbronion lol
thimbronion: shinohai: lol
shinohai: $mabtc
busybot: The 200 day moving avg. for BTC is 45,556.47 USD
shinohai: ^ thimbronion
thimbronion: shinohai: Ah actually was wanting the 200 week moving average. Sorry for the confusion:
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 19:12:54 thimbronion: er, hm, I meant week
thimbronion: 200 day is still pretty volatile
shinohai: Hmm might hafta dig a bit to find source for the 200 wk data.
verisimilitude: No, I use Moniker; I'm not paying attention very well.
verisimilitude: I see the price for is $3,493.75, I figure due to me.
mats: rip ukr
mats: putin took one for the team; now the whole world knows without a doubt that dollars are not fungible
asciilifeform: mats: this in re ukrowank overall, or specific event today ?
mats: bit stale, but the theft of ru central bank money
mats: the so-called rules based international order will not respect property rights
asciilifeform: quite the mpexing eh
mats: ofac has gone quite a bit further than just robbing a bunch of muslim charities, the odd casino in macau, a rando chinese corp that washed money into north korea
asciilifeform: wai putin didn't ~start~ with selling off his mpex^H^H^H^Hreichsbank holdings (or for that matter wai to do all of this nao rather than in '14) remains mystery
mats: could've traded it all for rmb
mats: painting the man into a corner makes the risk of tactical nuking of a ukr city so much more plausible now
asciilifeform: mats: asciilifeform's guess is that he's hobbled by traitorous ministers who already reserved villas in miami. is the only half-plausible explanation for over9000 'whys'
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 12:15:17 asciilifeform: fwiw if ru had its shit together (i.e. had been fully de-eltsinized) there'd be no ukrs, the latter would've been rm -rf'd no later than '14
asciilifeform: ( historians scratching heads re 'stalin purges' -- scratch no moar, here's wathappens when yer 'soft' and refrain )
mats: at least we'll have bitcorns to eat
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $42986.83
asciilifeform: ^ lol just the usual atmospheric hiss
mats: the one escape from all this totalitarian shite
asciilifeform: mats: will be lulzy if the pinched dough goes straight to 'buy up btc to dump'
asciilifeform: ( buy, naturally, 'from dark', dump -- on public goxes )
asciilifeform: continuing w/ this pov -- exactly 0 stopped ru from at any pt in past decade demanding btc payment for gas etc
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 22:21:08 asciilifeform: mats: asciilifeform's guess is that he's hobbled by traitorous ministers who already reserved villas in miami. is the only half-plausible explanation for over9000 'whys'
asciilifeform: nuffin except miamiism.
verisimilitude: So many people are going to commit suicide when SHA256 is broken.
verisimilitude: Imagine an alien watching that, watching bloodlines end because of a mathematical discovery.
asciilifeform: 'pssst... p==np' ... wagner,cyanide
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: subj has loong history in log btw, if yer curious.
dulapbot: (trilema) 2016-10-20 asciilifeform: you - yes, me - yes ; fella with the sha2 pill - ~0.
dulapbot: Logged on 2020-05-10 21:34:28 asciilifeform: *sha2
asciilifeform: ( see also various thrds re 'rsa pill', for completeness )
asciilifeform: << lulzy. asciilifeform has coupla reichdns parked there, but still not kicked out! (where to complain?? or must suppose, asciilifeform's street creds as 'putler stooge' are weak..)
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 19:55:00 verisimilitude: I use Namecheap, how wonderful:
asciilifeform: funnily enuff orig. went to it from mp's rec.
asciilifeform: apropos, his www currently sitting in ukristan (formerly moscow, iirc last yr sumbody moved it)
verisimilitude: One would think a name like Stanislav would be dedicated even with their poor heuristic methods.
verisimilitude: s/dedicated/detected/
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: could just as readily be an upstanding ukr or polack tho
asciilifeform in fact per usg considered, shit thee not, an ukr
verisimilitude: People were complaining about such methods in the discussion, in any case.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: seems that they banned folx who (at some pt) hosted in ru
asciilifeform funnily enuff made # of (failed) attempts to find sane hoster in ru (& elsewhere)
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 22:18:26 mats: painting the man into a corner makes the risk of tactical nuking of a ukr city so much more plausible now
dulapbot: (trilema) 2016-08-13 asciilifeform: 'kick the dog till it bites, then shoot it' is standard anglo approach, from boer war, to ww2 japan, to every poor motherfucker like the one in link
asciilifeform: in light of the man having no hands of his own not impossible dream tho.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 22:21:08 asciilifeform: mats: asciilifeform's guess is that he's hobbled by traitorous ministers who already reserved villas in miami. is the only half-plausible explanation for over9000 'whys'
signpost falls into a well of 2016 threads.
signpost: verisimilitude: looks like namecheap's CTO is from ukr.
signpost: probably one of these populist uprisings inside a tech company like keep happening (see also: joe rogan and spotify)
asciilifeform: hm thought whole thing was an ukr co?
signpost: apparently "based in phoenix", so probably outsources all the real work to ukraine.
asciilifeform: not uncommon. cheaper fwiw than india
signpost: pretty sure a contractor we hired one time was based in ukr, great guy, did good work.
signpost: needed some windows crapware built and nobody on team wanted to.
asciilifeform served time in a usg chemical wea^H^H^Hdefense lab, where ~100% of organic synthesis outsourced to ukrs
asciilifeform: as in neighbouring shitholes, over9000 folx there with 'classical' (i.e. su-era) education, entirely 1st rate when can find foreign bidder
signpost: afaik this is how approx 100% of american science is being done, either by importing the meat, or ^
verisimilitude: It's certainly convenient when someone else's society falls.
verisimilitude: Fortunately, the quality of US education means we won't be predated on in the same way.
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