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asciilifeform: meanwhile in footshoot olympics: usg.boeing embargos planes / parts to ru. where (like errywhere) most airlines -- lease. so, shortly, to be shipped back (not so much need for'em nomoar) and flood market...
asciilifeform: (alternatively they could simply stop paying & keep'em)
verisimilitude: Russia is still sending gas down the pipeline, right?
mats: yes
crtdaydreams: meanwhile, chumpatronics [re-inventing the wheel for the 6e9th time.]
crtdaydreams: meanwhile, chumpatronics [re-inventing the wheel for the 6e9th time.][https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVsUOuSjvcg]
crtdaydreams: "muh ai" not gon happen if you don't have *affordable* fab. not to mention a sane building block
crtdaydreams: not even a mention of lispm
crtdaydreams: atleast he recognized the von neumann bottleneck, but without acknowledging alternate arch how can you make an arguement "this is the future, deal with it"
crtdaydreams: i bet he goes home to program in rust on his WSL system ontop win11 and thinks "this is fine."
crtdaydreams: prolly uses light mode too.
shinohai: $vwap
busybot: The 24-Hour VWAP for BTC is $ 43757.63 USD
bitbot: Logged on 2022-03-02 09:57:29 crtdaydreams: meanwhile, chumpatronics [re-inventing the wheel for the 6e9th time.][https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVsUOuSjvcg]
asciilifeform: meanwhile, cement testbed at 519k+.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-02 05:07:28 crtdaydreams: atleast he recognized the von neumann bottleneck, but without acknowledging alternate arch how can you make an arguement "this is the future, deal with it"
dulapbot: (trilema) 2016-12-01 asciilifeform: asciilifeform refers to this genre of writing as '10th-dimension', after infamous pseudoscientific b00k/www by same name, which consisted of highly refined 'imponade' (to borrow naggum's) , that is, writing designed to pull the reader's intellectual cock and give a sensation of 'profound insight', 'yes, NAO i UNDERSTAND FIZZZIX!' or similar.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-02#1081802 << hilariously, yes, and effectively for phree (i.e. for paperola which they can't even spend, rather than troo coin)
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-02 00:31:47 verisimilitude: Russia is still sending gas down the pipeline, right?
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 22:28:51 asciilifeform: continuing w/ this pov -- exactly 0 stopped ru from at any pt in past decade demanding btc payment for gas etc
asciilifeform: ... not to mention that the correct time to tighten that noose was 6-8wks ago, rather than nao when winter ending. but see also.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 22:21:08 asciilifeform: mats: asciilifeform's guess is that he's hobbled by traitorous ministers who already reserved villas in miami. is the only half-plausible explanation for over9000 'whys'
asciilifeform: afaik ru still sending e.g. titanium, heavy crude, etc. to usa also.
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 14 nodes...
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.022s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=725556
watchglass: 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.094s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725557 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.088s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725557
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.112s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725557
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.091s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725557 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=725557 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.143s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725557
watchglass: 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.257s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725557
watchglass: 82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.268s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725557
watchglass: 94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.309s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725080
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length!
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
watchglass: 75.106.222.93:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
signpost: asciilifeform: I expect that the "sanctions" are fake on the other end, too.
asciilifeform: signpost: near as can tell, the mpexing was genuine
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 22:14:11 mats: bit stale, but the theft of ru central bank money
signpost: lemme see if I can find the article which was claiming that there were easy routes around the swift ban.
mats: no mirror available yet or id link it
asciilifeform: mats: paste txt ?
asciilifeform: mats: ty
mats: >Changpeng ‘CZ’ Zhao said Binance has complied with international government mandates to restrict sanctioned individuals, but that to expand that further would be “unethical for us to do.” The crypto industry follows the “same rules” as banks, he said.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-01 19:24:58 asciilifeform: ... while the brass ring of 'demand btc for exports' still hanging on the wall for the 1st crowned head with fully working set of balls + brain to grab it
billymg: based on some of the wailing on twitter it looks as though even usg.coinbase hasn't taken any steps to block russian users yet, see also: https://archive.is/Iqbk2
billymg: good fodder for narrative of "bitcoin allows the baddies to skirt sanctions, we must clamp down harder to protect ourdemocracy"
billymg: does seem like they're losing their grip though, as mats' first article mentions, "Dylan Grice, the former Societe Generale strategist who’s since founded Calderwood Capital, described the recent moves as a “weaponization” of money. “You only get to play the card once,” he tweeted. “China will make it a priority to need no USD before going for Taiwan. It’s a
billymg: turning point in monetary history.”"
asciilifeform: billymg: lulzy built-in disinfo btw (for what would ru need 'exchanges' if were to demand btc for all exports ? )
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 22:28:51 asciilifeform: continuing w/ this pov -- exactly 0 stopped ru from at any pt in past decade demanding btc payment for gas etc
asciilifeform: exchanges are of strictly plebe interest
billymg: asciilifeform: maybe they will
billymg: would be epic
asciilifeform: billymg: sadly imho unlikely, for obv. reason as well as the fact that moscow also runs a traditional printer-reich
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 22:21:08 asciilifeform: mats: asciilifeform's guess is that he's hobbled by traitorous ministers who already reserved villas in miami. is the only half-plausible explanation for over9000 'whys'
billymg: i imagine part of the calculations going into that decision is "how much do we thing usg is holding compared to how much we are holding before we send it to the moon"
billymg: think*
billymg: asciilifeform: if putin is hung out to dry, like trump was, would be sad day for the world
verisimilitude: Never weep for a politician.
billymg: i don't give a shit about putin, i care about globohomo losing
verisimilitude: Considering we've not heard about Russian gas chambers and other such things, there's little reason to believe Russia is really out-of-control here.
verisimilitude: Was Donald Trump not controlled by globohomo?
billymg: controlled by or held back by, not sure which, and i guess it makes no difference in the end
billymg: little distinction between "pulls the strings" and "sets the boundaries"
verisimilitude: Sure, but I don't think it really required too much holding back.
billymg: yeah, trump, like all americans, cares too much about his own personal comfort to really risk anything
billymg: and comfort levels in america are still too high it seems
billymg: not sure about putin and russia though. china does not seemed controlled by globohomo
verisimilitude: Not all Americans are like that. Ted Kaczynski and Timothy McVeigh stand out as counterexamples.
billymg: amazing point verisimilitude, i'm sure no one here has heard of those two before
verisimilitude: I would've pointed out more recent and obscure examples, but they would've outed interests of mine.
verisimilitude: China has a new transgender clinic, billymg, but keep on thinking there's no chink in that armor already.
verisimilitude: Oh, and while we're on the topic, don't look into the foreigners who were early members of the Communist Party of China, and who received high honors, billymg.
billymg: verisimilitude: who were they?
verisimilitude: I'd hate to ruin the fun; find out for thyself.
billymg: verisimilitude: if i looked them up i'm sure they'd have many characteristics by which one could choose to describe them. i'm interested to know which of their characteristics make them interesting to you, verisimilitude
thimbronion: shinohai: your pest station appears to be offline according to my address table
verisimilitude: Well, here are three names: Sidney Rittenberg, Israel Epstein, and Sidney Shapiro.
verisimilitude: They've interesting names, right?
billymg: not really
verisimilitude: Tell me more about how China is free from globalist control, billymg.
billymg: tell me more about the connection you see between these three names?
PeterL: why bring them up if you are not going to explain?
billymg: because he like to troll and bait
verisimilitude: How am I trolling by pointing out early foreign influence with the current Chinese government?
billymg: he's waiting for someone to say "hrm, they sound like they could be jewish surnames", to which he would reply "i never said that"
bitbot: Logged on 2021-01-28 14:44:51 verisimilitude: I didn't mention Jews, but this conversation makes me think of a saying I'd thought of and have been saving since.
verisimilitude: I never wrote that.
billymg: never wrote what?
verisimilitude: Exactly.
PeterL: verisimilitude: is there a point you are trying to make or are you just spinning in circles here?
verisimilitude: Well, billymg was rude to me, so I'm being rude to him in-turn.
verisimilitude: I point out two killers and am mocked; I point out something of which he seemed to be unaware, and am again taunted.
verisimilitude: I'd be interested to read what billymg expects to actually do with any of this information.
verisimilitude: What does it really matter, to us, what Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin, compared to more local matters?
verisimilitude: What they do, that is.
billymg: verisimilitude: that last one i can agree with. more important is what we can control. e.g. trb, pestnet, etc.
billymg: verisimilitude: likewise, what does it matter what da jooz do?
verisimilitude: Sans a very personal reason, I suppose it mostly doesn't, billymg.
verisimilitude: Still, when people discuss Football every day, it occasionally matters to point out who own the teams.
verisimilitude: Be they lizards, illumanit, Jews, or aliens, it's more interesting than reading about what the quarterback did to a hooker.
verisimilitude: Illuminati, that is.
billymg: verisimilitude: suppose it was lizards who owned the football teams, and suppose you were also -- a lizard. just not one of The Lizards. would this change things?
verisimilitude: But, no, all my knowledge really does is make me increasingly paranoid and distrustful.
verisimilitude: Sure it would.
billymg: how so?
verisimilitude: Would I care about the plight of the poor were I rich? I probably wouldn't.
billymg: re-read what i wrote
verisimilitude: I'm shaped by my time and circumstances, obviously.
verisimilitude: I thought I understood what was written.
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billymg: in this scenario the football teams are owned by lizards (rich and powerful ones). you are also a lizard (the species) but you are not rich, nor powerful, nor a member of their club.
verisimilitude: I'd resent them as I resent the wealthy now.
verisimilitude: I suppose it wouldn't.
billymg: right, that's the only point i was trying to make
verisimilitude: Before anyone mentions it, I don't secretly seethe at adlai; I actually like him more than some of you.
verisimilitude: I taught myself long ago that it's unreasonable to make broad generalizations about groups of people.
verisimilitude: Groups that aren't people, think machinery or aliens, deserve no such sympathy, however.
mats: chinese and jews have a lot in common
mats: they eat at the same restaurants on christmas
verisimilitude: I've only written one joke about China I currently recall; care to read it?
thimbronion: mats ever read any of Amy Chua's books?
mats: nope
mats: verisimilitude: lay it on us
verisimilitude: Regarding my machine customization or ``ricing'': I rice so little one could confuse me with China's Great Leap Forward.
mats: a fun rice fact many are unaware of is that white rice is a historical luxury
verisimilitude: Brown rice tastes better anyway.
mats: it’s labor intensive to refine and polish, so most chinese ate millet, brown rice, and other grains
verisimilitude: So my joke was that bad, was it?
mats: i tried to be gracious about it, but yes
verisimilitude: It got laughs from all others to whom I've told it.
mats: ha ha, yellow famine
verisimilitude: Care for a different joke?
mats: hard pass
verisimilitude: It's a much better one, but alright.
PeterL: verisimilitude: were they laughing at the joke or laughing at how horrible of a joke it was?
verisimilitude: It was the former.
verisimilitude: Care for a better joke I wrote in the shower, PeterL?
PeterL: can't be any worse than the last one?
verisimilitude: How do we know God likes cryptography?
verisimilitude: He always has plausible deniability.
shinohai: He also has perfect forward secrecy.
shinohai: thimbronion: Ack re: pest station, gonna throw it on the znc server asap
PeterL: verisimilitude: I dun get it?
verisimilitude: No one can prove god exists.
verisimilitude: He has a propertly commonly ascribed to cryptographic systems.
verisimilitude: That's the joke.
verisimilitude: This is a tough channel for jokes, I see. I'll leave this list and be done with it for now.
shinohai: Here's one for you in comic form verisimilitude http://btc.info.gf/uploads/CLISP.jpg
verisimilitude: I recall that one, yes.
thimbronion: verisimilitude: the thing about humor is you have to know your audience
thimbronion: My 11 yo often tells me jokes that her friends find hilarious but don't land with me at all
verisimilitude: I don't know this audience as well as first figured.
verisimilitude: I thought surely the cryptography joke would hit.
verisimilitude: What jokes are the children telling nowadays, thimbronion?
verisimilitude: In news relevant to me, this sucks; I hate large corporations.
verisimilitude: I'll need to finally re-download my collection.
thimbronion: verisimilitude: at the moment all I can recall are the memes she shares which are based usually on visually absurd mashups of meme celebrities like The Rock. The Rock as a floret of Broccoli, etc.
verisimilitude: Alright; I was expecting memes, Fortnite, and that manner of thing.
bonechewer: Ukies ask ICANN to cut off .ru, and RIPE to terminate Russia's BGP link
bonechewer: Encouraging the spread of alternate roots would be good for the world
bonechewer: But I confess I can't quite imagine what things will be like if the internet is no longer fully connected globally at the IP level
bonechewer: That doesn't mean it won't happen, either this war or next one
crtdaydreams: first 1 wrong link
crtdaydreams: eugh couple mistakes
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