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verisimilitude: Well, it works. Now I simply need to refine it.
verisimilitude: I tried to send and receive a packet, but it doesn't get sent back to me properly. This may be my local network setup, however.
verisimilitude: Still, how nice.
verisimilitude: I got frustrated with the Access attribute, so I just started using System.Address instead, as asciilifeform did. I may return and change that later, however.
verisimilitude: Still, my library uses no C language whatsoever, beyond the Ada Interfaces.C mechanism.
crtdaydreams: might have webshit up soon if anyone's interested, currently looking for dyndns provider
verisimilitude: That's nice.
verisimilitude: I use RamNode and Moniker, but have no special appreciation for them.
crtdaydreams: I prefer to self-host.
verisimilitude: Go for it.
crtdaydreams: Just hope I'm boring enough to not get pwned.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-05 17:37:29 billymg: !c trb-status
asciilifeform: << defo worth mirroring, esp. the multi-dvd sets which actually have all the packages
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-05 20:53:11 shinohai: Dunno if useful to any present, but found nifty archive of older linux, might mirror a few of these.
asciilifeform: << cryostat similarly 'no c', i'ma guess you have hardcoded constants similarly tho
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-06 02:30:05 verisimilitude: Still, my library uses no C language whatsoever, beyond the Ada Interfaces.C mechanism.
verisimilitude: Yes, asciilifeform, but only a few.
verisimilitude: I tried to make another comment, spyked, but it was seemingly eaten.
verisimilitude: Some of the type modelling is also hardcoded, such as ssize_t.
asciilifeform: mats: lolcattube already fulla lulzy clips showing behaviour of ukr runaways in europistan
asciilifeform: syrians et al looking rather civilized in comparison
asciilifeform: meanwhile in orc lulz.
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $38684.47
asciilifeform: ^ waterfall alive & well
verisimilitude: That's what I've been telling others, mats. Why care about Ukraine, but not what goes on elsewhere, and all of that.
verisimilitude: I recall when Japan let in similar such refugees, and one raped a woman within the week, asciilifeform.
mats: because they have white skin, isn't that your thing
mats: logically consistent isnt it
verisimilitude: I needn't be logically consistent about anything.
verisimilitude: I'm not a machine.
thimbronion: asciilifeform: if waterfall is working, why isn't btc 3800?
verisimilitude: Articles such as this amuse me.
thimbronion: it's ok not to know exactly why btc has it's current price
billymg: it's funny how at this point you already know the slant of an article/opinion simply by how they spell kiev
verisimilitude: Explain.
billymg: see pediwiki entry: "Kiev is the traditional English name for the city,[25][28][29] but because of its historical derivation from the Russian name, Kiev became disfavored in many Western media outlets after the outbreak of the Russo-Ukrainian War."
billymg: basically to signal allegiance with the regime you better be sure to spell it "Kyiv" which is now its preferred pro^H^H^Hname
billymg: re: btc price, i think some of it is waterfall and some of it is gamblers losing to the house via leverage and alt coins. this hunch makes a lot of sense from a pure self-interest POV. if i were a billionaire and wanted to acquire btc i'd do so otc and occasionally dampen the exchange rate as i continue buying
bitbot: Logged on 2022-03-01 03:25:15 asciilifeform: ( buy, naturally, 'from dark', dump -- on public goxes )
verisimilitude: That explains the Kyiv jokes I've seen, then.
verisimilitude: I appreciate it, billymg.
billymg: verisimilitude: np
billymg just went to press a new patch for the crawler and realized there's a typo in the root directory, will have to regrind the first two
verisimilitude: ``Deprecation is an essential part of language and SDK maintenance. If you find a programming language that hasn’t done it, you’ve found a trivial or dead language. (Or one that’s just gone ahead and removed the features without any warning.)''
verisimilitude: I've noticed an odd Wordpress flaw twice now. Sometimes my first comment in a long while is eaten.
asciilifeform: << would if could. lizard strat aint 'drive it to 1$' tho, but to dump as much as needed to keep btc-usd from obviously trashing reich.paper 'investments' quarter after quarter
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-06 15:25:30 thimbronion: asciilifeform: if waterfall is working, why isn't btc 3800?
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-22 13:23:33 asciilifeform: ( the lizard strategy is interesting imho: to mask the inflation shelter aspect of btc by artificially pumping it up and 'burying' the rise with paperola)
asciilifeform: so far working.
asciilifeform: objective, can suppose, is simply to keep the idjit hill climbers from going all-out into btc.
asciilifeform suspects that waterfall dumps are normally triggered by leveraged positions at goxes going over some threshhold of mass/vulnerability, given as enemy has access to ~all gox positions in realtime
dulapbot: Logged on 2020-05-05 19:59:44 asciilifeform: as a rule, they're entirely happy to buy promisecoin, so can 'leverage' and 'play'.
billymg: asciilifeform: what does 'hill climbers' mean in this context?
thimbronion: exchanges can't not be colluding to crash, knowing exacactly when every trader moron is gonna be liquidated
mats: thats a tall claim, implying every exchange incl binance has opened their order books to the reich
thimbronion: mats: I'm specifically not making that claim, to clarify, although I believe asciilifeform is.
mats: causing crashes dries up orders, which costs them fees
thimbronion: mats also works for short squeezes, I would assume
mats: sure
mats: im more inclined to believe that goxes are compliant to the extent regulators can pressure them, but giving crown representatives accounts with unlimited balances for waterfalls is just not plausible anymore
mats: goxes wont even shut out all russian nationals despite reich attempts to do so
mats: the reich needs legislative remedies to make it stick
mats: they are weak and exchanges defect whenever possible
vex: karpeles sure seemed to enjoy funny business when gox was ~only game in town
mats: maybe the reich had this power before mp drowned, but it doesnt look it anymore
verisimilitude: What's so great about Binance, mats?
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-21 15:40:05 mats:
mats: bitcoins are too big to be pushed around by national sovereigns
verisimilitude: Is that article supposed to make me think Binance is cool?
vex: shit, 1trilly per month?
verisimilitude: Doesn't government regulation directly oppose what Bitcoin was intended to be?
verisimilitude: ``I want to send coins to this wallet.'' ``No.''
mats: thats your fault for buying gox coin and asking them to send to a prohibited address
mats: doesnt have anything to do with bitcoins
mats: if that friction persists, i expect goxcoins to trade at a mild discount compared to realcoin
mats: like eurodollars have a premium
billymg: mats: already do. if you want to buy from an ATM there's usually a +10-12% spread
mats: thats the reverse effect
verisimilitude: What's so great about Binance, mats?
billymg: yes, so you could argue the gox coins are at a discount compared to the ATM coins
mats: no, the atm coins are discounted
billymg: because they don't carry the markup
mats: ok, i follow now, but its not exactly the same thing
billymg: really? pretty sure they're discounted when *selling*
mats: the atm operators are extracting a premium to make markets
billymg: sure, but the net effect is "pay premium for non gox coins" i.e. gox coins essentially have a discount
asciilifeform: << 'people' who behave amoebically (i.e. follow gradient of 'tastier right there right now'). and see also.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-06 17:41:44 billymg: asciilifeform: what does 'hill climbers' mean in this context?
mats: kyc free atms in usa are going away by end of year anyway
mats: my surveys indicate theyve been evaporating in advance of the mandate
billymg: mats: yeah, kyc free everything seems to be drying up
asciilifeform never seen a non-kyc 'btc atm'
mats: it was always gonna happen, the magic is it lasted more than ten years
verisimilitude: A lot of things can boil down to ``lacks aesthetic tastes'', asciilifeform.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: what's that to do with it?
mats: verisimilitude: read the logs
verisimilitude: A lot of things can boil down to ``lacks aesthetic tastes'', asciilifeform.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-06 18:58:50 asciilifeform: << 'people' who behave amoebically (i.e. follow gradient of 'tastier right there right now'). and see also.
billymg: asciilifeform: can search for them here: (dunno how accurate/up-to-date their data is though)
mats: filter by my nick, its all in there
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: it has 0 to do with aesthetics. simply that hill-climbing algo for e.g. staying dry would have you sit in a phone booth until rain stops, rather than going home, even if home is across street
asciilifeform: 'investor' scum behave (at least collectively) in exactly this way
verisimilitude: A lot of unintelligent behaviour can boil down to ``lacks aesthetic tastes'', asciilifeform.
verisimilitude: That's how I start this article; intelligent and good taste are linked.
verisimilitude: Good taste has a man step back from such strategies, because they taste wrong.
verisimilitude: A man with good taste won't generally act like an amoeba.
asciilifeform: arguably, excess of 'taste' can be exactly how one ends up in that phone booth
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-06 20:45:05 verisimilitude: Part of why I don't write much, is I want perfection or nothing, and something that can't be ideal may not be worth trying.
verisimilitude: Ah, I've been struck, and rightfully.
vex: mat's, is there an expectation that binance will work towards regulatory compliance? sounds a bit like uber, shunning `da rules' until market share is good
vex: Seemingly, that box would be tickable, they probably have a unique desk for most whales on rock 3 already
mats: read the logs
vex: Oh, is that not a new insight?
mats: it does look like that's the plan
mats: evade the law, get bigger, shape legislation to benefit when the moment arrives
vex: Those otc relationships could possibly continue unencumbered.
vex: I get the waterfall idea inasmuch as these businesses can't run out of coin
mats: if it was me, who had the crown dispensation to waterfall, i'd find some pals to take the other sides of these bets and soak the reich for their coins
mats: and one day the dispensation will dissipate and my friends will reimburse me for cheap coins
vex: that's kinda the game right?
mats: if my opsec is good, i don't spend the proceeds lavishly, those on the other side can take these bets in opaque order books on other exchanges, and it would just be another loss in a list of endless losses
mats: i don't think this is a difficult conclusion and also why the waterfall doesn't make sense anymore
vex: if you had a view on binance orderbooks, dyareckon you could increase your stack?
mats: maybe
vex: same
crtdaydreams: bnbusdt ez mone
vex: lol
crtdaydreams: vex: haven't been flooded?
vex: nah mate, I'm highter than the sun
crtdaydreams: high on life eh?
vex: you?
crtdaydreams: icarus be jelly
crtdaydreams: bit boggy, but we're harvesting
crtdaydreams: gotta get it off asap
vex: I think alfie was asking the other day if anyone else uses self driving other than teslas. HArvesters do it
crtdaydreams: yeah nah yeah it's not really self driving
crtdaydreams: teslas i think have control over acc and braking, headers don't (at least none I've driven)
crtdaydreams: It's just row correction to keep feeding along the rows, planters use em too
vex: So it'll keep a straight line?
vex: still gotta make the turn?
crtdaydreams: til you get to the end of the row, then you've gotta disengage to make a turn
vex: seems legit
crtdaydreams: a guy a couple blocks over has completely autonomous sprayers, feeding into monsanto's pockets.
crtdaydreams: i'd like to get away from farming, far too much chemical.
vex: mate it's the best game to be in. food isn't getting cheaper
crtdaydreams: not crop farming.
crtdaydreams: cattle is where the $$$ is at
crtdaydreams: count for inflation and all the bullshit taxes for cow farts and chemical reliance and the farmers bottom line is what gets cut into
vex: my word
vex: gina sold off a bit
crtdaydreams: best time to sell cars and shit aswell
crtdaydreams: if you gotta house, banger time to sell, dumbfuck time to buy
vex: true dat
crtdaydreams: but then you gotta weigh your opts because if you don't buy something b4 crash those 600k dollarydoos worth nothin'
vex: gotta stay somewhere
crtdaydreams: and to buy errythin' gonna cost more buy the time you can actually buy from the sell time
crtdaydreams: economy's fucked. wat dou?
vex: keep on truckin mate
crtdaydreams trucks 30ton load of wheat down border
crtdaydreams trucks 30ton load of wheat back
vex: dafaq?
crtdaydreams: literally what's happening
vex: whats that all about?
crtdaydreams: get more $$$ to sell interstate the exact same amount of the exact same grain
crtdaydreams: so truckies are carting back and forth the exact same grain loads interstate
vex: worth putting in silos?
vex: I still don't get it
vex: so you sell there, buy another load?
crtdaydreams: so say farmer A in NSW wants to sell grain, in NSW he might get $180/ton but in QLD he'll get $200/ton
crtdaydreams: so he sells to QLD
crtdaydreams: now farmer B in QLD also wants to sell exact same kind of grain, but in QLD he might get $175/ton, in NSW he can get $190/ton so he sells to NSW
crtdaydreams: so you end up with truckies trucking the same amount and kind of grain back and forth interstate
crtdaydreams: *not the exact same load of grain
vex: fuck, why the discrepency?
crtdaydreams: idk, markets fucked lol
crtdaydreams: that and taxes
vex: sneak it off to iraq. isn't that what the wheat board was doing?
crtdaydreams: pretty sure they're still paying off that fuckup
vex: Diesoleum ain't cheap either
crtdaydreams: fyi for any readers, the wheat board sold a fuck tonne of grain overseas to iraq b4 middle east war, it was all seed grain aswell, pickled and errythin' and they fucking ate it.
crtdaydreams: they are still paying farmers all across australia a measly $70~ something a year for grain that was sold and eaten years decades ago
crtdaydreams: saw petrol prices in brisy up to $2.13~ a few weeks ago before floods.
crtdaydreams: dunno abt diesel, stations cost ~20% moar than bulk buying to farms
crtdaydreams: << correction, $7~ something every couple of years, they're not even paying inflation.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-06 21:09:53 crtdaydreams: they are still paying farmers all across australia a measly $70~ something a year for grain that was sold and eaten years decades ago
verisimilitude: Well, my UDP binding works now. I was improperly specifying a Sockaddr parameter as in, not in out, and so the changes wouldn't necessarily propagate.
verisimilitude: Expect it to be refined and published within the month.
whaack back at the terminal
whaack: <--- wow, i am stoked to hear that it took you only 12 days, I am going to go through the record in the logs to see if I can find clues as to where my trb node was when i started syncing trbexplorer, but i had indeed thought that trbexplorer would take 4 months ontop of trbexplorer
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 10:58:57 billymg: whaack: dunno if you tested that, but i think it would be fair for you to list the sync time as ~12 days provided one starts with a fully synced trb. i don't think it's fair to trbexplorer to have to include trb's slow sync time
vex: wb whaack
whaack: asciilifeform: i rented out a server in NZ , i will try your cement patch as well
whaack: and re billymg's point , i'll have an opportunity to test the trbsync + trbexplorer sync
whaack: ty vex
vex: not really my place, but I haven't sen you in a bit
vex: ever bin nz whaack?
vex: shit's wild
vex: so many fullface tattos in the pub
vex felt like a food group
vex: ragalns is like a nine minute ride on agood day too
vex: it's never that smol
vex: it was double overhead when I saw it. Didn't have a board. forgettable
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