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gregorynyssa: at the time I had no idea why they treated me so badly. I kept thinking (very reminiscent of Confucian & Muslim mindset) that if I
billymg: if on non-musl, it goes more like: spin up dulap/pentacle chroot -> build static bin
billymg: you will be able to build and run trb though, see http://billymg.com/2022/01/building-trb-on-a-2022-vintage-musl-gentoo/
signpost: imho the muslims got this one right. you're permitted to lie to your enemies under duress, including blasphemy.
asciilifeform been to boston exactly 1ce, in late '90s to visit family phriendz, walked past mit like muslim walks in mecca past the kaaba, 'believed'
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-23 11:49:34 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in misc. finds: 'zig cc' , c/cpp compiler, '45MB tarball', claims musl support.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in misc. finds: 'zig cc' , c/cpp compiler, '45MB tarball', claims musl support.
shinohai: crtdaydreams: There really wasn't any dep hell for me, I wrote post on what I did for musl-Gentoo here.
signpost: this is in /lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-musl/4.9.4/adalib/s-widcha.ali rather than a file in the gcc build process
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-21 00:00:52 signpost: meanwhile upgraded to gnat-2017, because this didn't require any patching to target musl. removed a shitload of nasty patch cruft I'd accumulated tilting at the gnat-2016 windmill.
signpost: (aside that the one in which builds occur has the obvious dependencies, gnat, vtools, musl, posix shell, etc)
signpost meanwhile upgraded to gnat-2017, because this didn't require any patching to target musl. removed a shitload of nasty patch cruft I'd accumulated tilting at the gnat-2016 windmill.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-27 05:13:32 crtdaydreams: does mp-wp run with anything other than mysql?
signpost: ah, apparently finland has a "don't offend the muslims" law, like much of conquered yurp.
signpost: you might've raised "look at muslim inbreeding" habits for example, or any number of objections. vicious debate is the sound of the group world model updating itself.
signpost: happy to have collaborators too. at present I've got all deps in their own vpatches, and modifications to work with musl in separate vpatches.
mats: just could not resist weaponising the dollar, having pushed that button so many other times for muslims
mats: ofac has gone quite a bit further than just robbing a bunch of muslim charities, the odd casino in macau, a rando chinese corp that washed money into north korea
signpost: I think "sabotage" came up in my research on which distros had musl patches, unless I'm mistaken.
signpost: "run the gcc pbuild, install to /opt/gcc-musl-mips, build with 16 processes, enable 'shared' use flag (not pictured in ebuild, but can imagine adding it with default off)"
signpost: e.g. USE=shared /src/pbuild install gcc -d /opt/gcc-musl-mips -j16
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-30 19:21:00 asciilifeform: on a musltronic gentoo, one oughta be able to , theoretically, build exactly same thing as rotor's output, but w/out the 'buildroot' liquishit in the process
asciilifeform: on a musltronic gentoo, one oughta be able to , theoretically, build exactly same thing as rotor's output, but w/out the 'buildroot' liquishit in the process
signpost: speaking of musl-lolz, user-mode linux has a ptrace b00g on it, doesn't work.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-18 13:17:22 signpost: not yet to X on the new item; however, historically I've dug up musl patches in either Alpine Linux APKBUILDs or gentoo's musl overlay git repo.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-18#1073819 << x took 4evah (and wasn't even on a musl), asciilifeform blew last yr just about an entire 3wk vacation on just x
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-18 11:28:59 billymg: shinohai: aha, found a binary ff yanked from KISS in this overlay, will give this a shot
signpost: not yet to X on the new item; however, historically I've dug up musl patches in either Alpine Linux APKBUILDs or gentoo's musl overlay git repo.
signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-18#1073741 << my gentoo x11+musl stack of chairs hasn't been tended in a bit, shifted to building up another from iron when I hit tilt on the number of things I had to cut and cauterize.
shinohai: But iirc KISS linux use musl, there might be a FF recipe published by them though dunno tbh.
billymg: does anyone here know how to get a firefox built and running on a musl system? wasn't anticipating this hiccup
billymg: i've also been busy these last coupla days setting up a new gentoo build on a laptop i have, trying the musl approach this time and documenting each step/pitfall along the way
asciilifeform: in fleanode lulz. apparently claims to still operate, nao with 'Officially become digital territory of the Joseon Empire' and 'Replace Services Authentication with Fiat, Decentralized Blockchain Based Authentication'. didjaknow.
mats: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2019-12-24#1004333 << modi has successfully turned the rage inwards, with raping of muslims etc, but the day might come soon when this rage is directed outwards
billymg: gentoo still hosts up-to-date musl stage 3 tarballs on their downloads page
billymg: i perhaps could've started this build as a musl build and that might've saved a lot of headache with some things
asciilifeform: billymg: nonrotor build on a non-musl system is a roulette; is wai asciilifeform baked rotor to begin with
shinohai: billymg: I had to build from sources, followed this recipe: http://btc.info.gf/blog/wip-a-static-gnat-with-musl-nosuchlabs-edition.html
asciilifeform: billymg: unless you went to special lengths to get a musltronic gentoo, yea it's glibc
billymg: signpost, asciilifeform: i believe my system is glibc currently rather than musl
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-03-24 13:52:26 asciilifeform: dpb: the 1 i use for ffa since ch.11 inclusive was baked using ave1's recipe and builds self (on x64.)
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-09-01 15:13:48 billymg: asciilifeform, shinohai: this version of chromium finally built on my dbus/systemd-free gentoo. the solution was to comment out the musl related patches in the ebuild and set the -system-icu USE flag. i'm a bit embarrassed that i didn't try commenting out the musl patches sooner since i'm not on a musl build but
billymg: asciilifeform, shinohai: this version of chromium finally built on my dbus/systemd-free gentoo. the solution was to comment out the musl related patches in the ebuild and set the -system-icu USE flag. i'm a bit embarrassed that i didn't try commenting out the musl patches sooner since i'm not on a musl build but
signpost: thing gives you a vintage musltronic gentoo with lilo as bootloader, no dbus, etc etc
adlai: which is exactly why my example-rock is "a book explaining", rather than 'trb', 'stator', 'musl', or even "metafont version algebraic-number-suchandsuch"
gregory4: Muslim and Hindu children have their thoughts partly shaped by their ethnic religion. yellows seem to learn everything from either school or Evangelical church.
mats: asians know how to assimilate, unlike muslims (and this isnt a value judgment)
shinohai: I'd simply patch self likely, like did for sbcl so could use it with a musl profile.
asciilifeform: both musl-based
magnus: was his the musl-based gentoo variant?>
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: was draft name for trinque's 1st attempt at a musl-based gentoo.
asciilifeform: dpb: for the vtron, aha. try shinohai's recipe, afaik is the quickest way. i will be back later tonight and answer q's if you get stuck.
asciilifeform: dpb: the 1 i use for ffa since ch.11 inclusive was baked using ave1's recipe and builds self (on x64.)
shinohai: dpb: I got it working like so: http://btc.info.gf/blog/wip-a-static-gnat-with-musl-nosuchlabs-edition.html
snsabot: Logged on 2020-09-07 19:30:13 trinque: asciilifeform and shinohai, find instructions to build the musltron here http://trinque.org/src/bootstrap.txt
cgra: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-12-16#1026187 << asciilifeform, wasn't aware of exact details when, but i assumed musl-based, yeah. also, personally already had to drop a handful of ffa's restrictions, and tweak a ffa build param, because so far i've been using the gnat in ubuntu 16.04, which is older than the adacore 2016
snsabot: Logged on 2020-09-07 19:30:13 trinque: asciilifeform and shinohai, find instructions to build the musltron here http://trinque.org/src/bootstrap.txt
cgra: the course i'm now attending for my sane computing curriculum, is binary auditability. atm i'm carving out the glibc bloat and trinque's musl bootstrap seemed like a suitable ingredient. i just finished building it and came to report the results so far
snsabot: Logged on 2020-09-07 14:17:58 asciilifeform: trinque: seems like if trinquetronic linux requires a working musl-based item to bootstrap, might make sense to distribute a dulap-style canned image to do so from
asciilifeform: trinque: lemme know if in fact i'm thick and the 'bootstrap' can actually be booted as-given somehow, w/out already having a working musltronic x64 linux somewhere
trinque: I've included a "bootstrap" fs to make things easy, but the same instructions can be used on any musl linux with ave1's gnat handy.
trinque: asciilifeform and shinohai, find instructions to build the musltron here http://trinque.org/src/bootstrap.txt
asciilifeform: trinque: seems like if trinquetronic linux requires a working musl-based item to bootstrap, might make sense to distribute a dulap-style canned image to do so from
asciilifeform: this is still nifty tho, asciilifeform genuinely had nfi how to bring up emacs on musltronic
trinque: the problem is that my old muslwad isn't formalized at all, just carried forward in tarballs
trinque: https://www.openwall.com/lists/musl/2015/02/05/1 << yep, iirc I used the method described here
asciilifeform: iirc that was the 1 tough nut in muslism
asciilifeform: trinque: am i right then to suppose you have a musl-compat. emacs ?
trinque: I've been living on musl systems for a half-decade by now
asciilifeform: hmm i thought that trinque had a 'rotor'-style bootstrapper that goes from trad linux to musl
asciilifeform only ever had musltronic 'miniature' linuxen, e.g. the 1 on 'pogo', the mips linux for 'M', and coupla similars
asciilifeform: Aerthean: building a musl-based gcc toolchain is not so hard; the harder thing is getting 100% of proggies to actually build in it (for some, trivial, for others -- e.g. emacs -- yet-unsolved afaik , some of'em use glibcisms specifically )
Aerthean: Ah, yeah I followed along with some of the musl work, I put some effort into building a musl-based FreeRTOS system for a Xilinx Zynq
asciilifeform: Aerthean: trinque is working on a purely musl-based linux & toolchain.
asciilifeform: Aerthean: actually this gentoo still based on traditional glibc. static linking in it still has to be done by building a separate gcc + toolchain, or using ave1's gnat , or similar.
asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: libc is retarded, primarily because requires the 20GB of ????? liquishit to even bootstrap. even the ultracompact musl.
asciilifeform: whether ye olde pieceofshit glibc, or the moar compact musl, ultimately all work same way.
asciilifeform: for yet-further ref -- glibcistic gnat rts weighs ~1MB; musltronic -- 300k; a theoretically minimal (per ffa) one would weight coupla kB.
asciilifeform: gnat, unlike standard gcc, allows substitution of the standard lib when compiling. this way is possible to cut out the stock rts (which is massively bloated, and in fact rolls in libc -- in ave1's series of gnats, musl) and replace with, e.g., a simplified lib which invokes syscalls via asm, or in fact able to sit on raw irons, etc
asciilifeform: i.e. to replace it with compact and ~100% compat. libc 'musl'. (1st requires building gcc, bintools, etc. ~under~ musl, because gcc that has been contaminated with glibc can ~only~ build w/ glibc.. )
asciilifeform: this is a traditional (i.e. not musltronic) gentoo .
mats: maybe this will be the year hindu divisions sate themselves on the blood of hui and pakistani muslims
shinohai: Ironically I didn't have to carve out texinfo from gpg until I switched to musl.
trinque: their thing is fine as a collection of musl patches; I happily cribbed a few
asciilifeform: shinohai: i gotta ask, how didja persuade shitcoinists to give a rat's arse re musl etc ?
shinohai: asciilifeform: Latest job for me is updating a coin based off LTC so will build under musl on alpine. Array overflow occurs in scrypt.cpp because of "scratchpad" size. https://github.com/FredKSchott/litecoin/blob/exp-0.8-backports/src/scrypt.cpp
asciilifeform: it aint 'ecologically clean' (i.e. not musltronic, or especially compact) but at very least free of poettering/gcc5.
feedbot: http://btc.info.gf/blog/yet-another-musl-trb-build-instructional.html << btcinfo -- Yet another musl trb build instructional
feedbot: http://btc.info.gf/blog/wip-a-static-gnat-with-musl-nosuchlabs-edition.html << btcinfo -- WIP: A static GNAT with musl, NoSuchLabs Edition.
shinohai: Welp for fun thought I'd try ave1's gnat builder from here but appears better part of the links no longer work. *sigh*
asciilifeform: bin/x86_64-linux-musl/bin/x86_64-linux-musl-gcc: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, not stripped
asciilifeform: $ file bin/x86_64-linux-musl/bin/x86_64-linux-musl-gcc
asciilifeform: bin/x86_64-linux-musl/bin/x86_64-linux-musl-gnat: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, not stripped
asciilifeform: $ file bin/x86_64-linux-musl/bin/x86_64-linux-musl-gnat
asciilifeform: shinohai: it was where i originally deployed musl
shinohai: Oh yeah? Haven't tried doing any musl things on pogo, mainly because such a pita to do *anything* on it.
asciilifeform: for that matter i had one on musl 'pogo' in '15
asciilifeform: iirc trinque had a musl gpg for yrs nao
shinohai: (A side project has been building static gpg1.4.10 using musl)
asciilifeform: ( recall, 1st builds gcc, then builds musl-gcc , then $target )
PeterL: does musl not build on "modern" Linux?
shinohai: Nope. I suggested using musl, but then mining pools bitch because they can't use African linux to build it like everything else they do.
asciilifeform: when i was baking kernel+musl+trb for pogo , did end up 1 time using serial recover. it was a bitch, and afterwards decided 'these are too cheap to be worth spending whole hour to repair', but did not thereafter brick any moar
asciilifeform: shinohai: what of the musl thing ?
shinohai: Careful, she's fuming! (/me read teh log, which was hilarious yesterday re: the musl guy)
mats: meanwhile i wonder whether this'll be the century when muslims stop fighting each other long enough to choose a strong caliph and reassert themselves in some manner remniscent of the past
mats: anyway, its a good time to rebalance while mainland is still rising, same old story, canto/mando south/north huaren/mainland culture war. other vulns for cn might include usa chokehold on the dollar based financial system, hk may still induce malignant protests in guangdong/the south, and the xinzhuang issue is being used by political opposition to resist chinese influence in places like muslim majority indonesia and
shinohai: I think I recall doing *something* to clisp and emerging by hand http://btc.info.gf/blog/essential-kit-items-building-sbcl-on-gentoo-with-musl.html
mats: modi seems to be struggling to stay in power, with hindu populations in decline and muslims on the rise, the run on kashmir is interesting and idk enough about india to understand what his big picture, if any, looks like
shinohai: I successfully built sbcl for musl btw, though took a lot of patching. (The alpine folks had it covered)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-12-08 21:29:21 shinohai: ave1 had a gcc build? Might have saved me some headeaches when doing my musl build a few weeks ago.
shinohai: ave1 had a gcc build? Might have saved me some headeaches when doing my musl build a few weeks ago.