vex: fuck. should prlly email the cunt
phf: vex: not protracker enough unless it has the clap and the
phf: "huh" samples
vex: When I heard acdc repeated, I realised you could make the sounds you wanted to hear, rather than whatever comes out
phf: kind of miss the times when everyone had cool "scene" nicknames
vex: it's not like cunt's haven't heard of phf. just have't released a demo in a while
phf: ...oO brought to you by pax, 0dm, aNGLEfLAME, dr.d0x, fx1 wit specl greetz 2 d00m@mskbbs Oo...
vex: fuch yeah
vex: are those real demo scene names? or did you just brain them?
phf: brained them
vex: fuch yeah
vex: got a name for you and me?
vex: some demos were two cunts, even 3
vex: i want it liek -wastegate- but moar '92
vex: hiss for hat and tit for tat
vex: presents rekt.exe
vex: the younger readers should know, that's not how it works
vex: well, i kinda is. but noones got a dosbox
phf: it's literally just a starfield with "u got rekt by vex" traveling along a sinusoid path. in the background it attempts to recursively delete c:\
vex: can I replace clever 3d with some evm stuff?
vex: klf talk about `da groove
vex: maybe i'm too lod
vex didn't do terra. I only have 4 eyes
vex: irie. watcxhing
vex: well that was fucking glorious.
vex: lee perry died not long ago, he was pretty useful
vex: prolly wrote thunderstruck.mod
vex: yfw verisimilitude used to be a girl. what's up with the mammary glands?
vex: get some exercise
vex: cunt's have a vector on your favourite foods
vex: you dont want /me as uncle
vex: ;seen duffer
punkman: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-17#1102795 << fuck them if they can't take a joke
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-17 17:34:58 phf: this is also a reason why i don't participate, "walking on eggshells" and all this. i don't usually go to places like that guns blazing, i end up testing the waters though, and on more than one occasion (happened in both uxn and cat-v) get privmsgs from random people going "i wouldn't say shit like that if i were you, these place is activist heavy"
punkman: I don't mind punks, fags, weirdos and deviants. used to be that these people had much thicker skin, they were funny, etc.
verisimilitude: Well, it's not as if I could've told them ``Don't get your dicks in a knot.'' or variants.
verisimilitude: I think castration probably has a negative effect on them, punkman.
verisimilitude: The base of the issue is that no segmentation is permitted; one is either completely dedicated to it, or is an enemy.
punkman: verisimilitude: I think the castratos and turned-my-cock-into-neovagina folks are very few.
punkman: they mostly just use hormones, put on some tits and other cosmetic surgery
punkman: "extreme body modification" is an interesting topic. I don't care if some guy wants to be a lizard. But you can't take 10 year old that wants to be a lizard seriously and get him a full body green tattoo.
signpost highly suspicious of microplastics here.
signpost: punkman: no, and encouraging kids to do this to themselves is child abuse.
signpost also likes weirdos just fine, but carnies don't get to rule.
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $29188.79
mats: the APEC reverse osmosis system was pretty easy to install
mats: tds meter shows 20ppm now where tap is around 400
mats: hardest part was using a hole saw to put in the faucet
asciilifeform: mats: bought similar one recently, not installed yet
asciilifeform: punkman: lol!yes
thimbronion: Been using a Berkey. Tastes great, at least.
mats: that’s enormous
punkman: "But it hasn’t just been a transformation of Bitcoin into Bitcoin! TM. No, the securitization of Bitcoin into Bitcoin! TM has created an entire ecosystem of yield farming and staking across hundreds if not thousands of crypto coins, an ecosystem that is directly based on Bitcoin! TM as a funding mechanism"
asciilifeform: punkman: kilometres of 'capt.obvious' re shitcoins, but as expected 0 mention of fact that ~actual~ bitcoin still worx exactly like in '09
asciilifeform: or even of the fact that participation in the various ponzis is optional.
asciilifeform: who the fuck cares, and why, what happens to 'luna', or ethertardium, or whatever other mmm.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-18 19:59:07 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-18#1046402 << pretty sure we had at least one 'what does it mean to ask whether bitcoin still works?' thread, and not long ago
verisimilitude: LVNA RVBRA ERAT
verisimilitude: What upset me more than anything, asciilifeform, are the names they give their terrible little schemes. Luna cryptocurrency, Unicorn startups, Alphabet organized crime; it sickens me.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: 'luna' i expect was a simple play on the 'to the mooon!11' meme
asciilifeform: what didja expect they'd call it? 'wallet lightener' ?
shinohai: Rather than be upset, lol @ the fact their "community" called themselves lunatics.
verisimilitude: I'd forgotten the stupid meme.
billymg: https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-use-hardware-wallet-cryptocurrency-ledger-coinbase-ehter-bitcoin-2022-5 << i'm not sure how to feel about things like this, a few days after the heavily publicized "coinbase keeps your coins in the event of bankruptcy" disclosure
billymg: perhaps it's from a similar angle as e.g. keybase.io, corral people into "ledger" rather than old laptop running linux
shinohai: Ledger kinda stupid because does you 0 good without their javashit app.
billymg: shinohai: never tried it but based on who promotes it (like that BI article) i've always assumed it was compromised from the start
billymg: and whenever i meet some boomer who's "into crypto" and self custodies it's always with a ledger
shinohai: Makes sense lol
shinohai: iirc Ledger has capabilities to store "over 9000!" altcoinz
shinohai never holds onto shitcoins long enuf to need dedi device for 'em ...
billymg recently met a smart boomer though who's very much into bitcoin for the right reasons. also uses a ledger but after our discussion he concluded that "i think i've been doing this wrong this whole time"
crtdaydreams: do you guys compile sbcl standalone outside portage, or with it?
shinohai: I usually compile outside of portage personally.
crtdaydreams: can you elaborate a bit more on that? e.g. are you still using portage to manage libs and most of dep hell?
shinohai: crtdaydreams: There really wasn't any dep hell for me, I wrote post on what I did for musl-Gentoo here.
shinohai: But most of the steps sans patches likely the same.
shinohai: (if on a glibc system)
crtdaydreams: oh kewl
crtdaydreams: specifically asking for apps say firefox (if you use boatware)\
crtdaydreams: with over9000 deps
signpost: sbcl is asking for firefox?
crtdaydreams: no lol
crtdaydreams forgets they don't do telepathy in the city
crtdaydreams: dw about it. i'll figure it out eventually
signpost: sbcl ftr does not have 9000 deps.
shinohai: Perfect opportunity to try and `emerge` something and play around with USE flags
signpost: included it in my own distro in an afternoon.
shinohai: Worx a++ btw signpost, was tinkering with scripts in it earlier.
signpost: cool. still think crtdaydreams is best off learning gentoo first, so he knows from where I'm shamelessly lifting good ideas.
crtdaydreams: signpost: lol :P
crtdaydreams: getting weird error with sbcl through portage; "can't find sbcl.core" when I run it
crtdaydreams: I'll try w/ out. I got the full emerge log i'll post in a sec
shinohai: crtdaydreams: betcha it will run if you try `sbcl --core /usr/lib64/sbcl/sbcl.core `
crtdaydreams: shinohai: what begets this wizardry!?!
shinohai: iirc it's a bug in the profile, sourcing `/etc/profile` mite also have worked.
crtdaydreams: nao got (require :asdf nil) throwing an error :|
crtdaydreams: i see
crtdaydreams: yeppers. thankyou muchly
crtdaydreams: is /etc/profile something to do with refreshing envvars?
crtdaydreams: appreciate the help
crtdaydreams: I wonder, is my approach to getting help with problem-solving a little dicky? Should I be more direct with my issue so we're not jumping hoops all the time?
crtdaydreams: I don't want to be resorting to asking peeps all the time "err wat dou here"
shinohai: Well naturally ya need to share as much info as you can, pasting barfs generally helps you get help quicker.
crtdaydreams: right. also doesn't clog logs
shinohai: 99% of time searching Gentoo wiki solved my issues, but I'm more of a "reading" learner.
signpost never faulted anyone not knowing, only refusing to learn.
signpost: gotta fall out of your mother somewhere.
crtdaydreams: shinohai: first instinct is to google, but gets stuck moment has to read anything beyond stackoverflow. probably due for a change lol
crtdaydreams: s/first/my first/
crtdaydreams: signpost: lol. big difference between falling out and getting shot out at mach 2
shinohai: Yeah gonna have to do some spelunking beyond stackoverflow to find the meaty bits sometimes.
crtdaydreams: shinohai: I've considered grinding LFS, which might be a better approach to learning everything *because you have to* then moving back to gentoo to preserve my sanity
shinohai could find almost zero on the interwebs when he wanted to shove a Gentoo chroot onto android for example
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-18 17:56:33 billymg: https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-use-hardware-wallet-cryptocurrency-ledger-coinbase-ehter-bitcoin-2022-5 << i'm not sure how to feel about things like this, a few days after the heavily publicized "coinbase keeps your coins in the event of bankruptcy" disclosure
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-04-21 14:36:23 asciilifeform: however never tried 'ledger', 'trezor', etc. given as these all have asinine design which requires a pc with prb. defeating the entire nominal purpose of the box.
crtdaydreams: signpost: does pentacle use "use flags", "masking" etc. and other ideas lifted from portage?
crtdaydreams must go now
crtdaydreams: thanks all o/
signpost: masking of the kind gentoo uses isn't needed. if you don't want someone's software, don't have them in your wot directory, and don't download their vpatches.
signpost: trust is in authors, not packages.
signpost: I did lift use flags to control optional components and behavior.
shinohai: I support the Ukraine so had to remove asciilifeform from my wot
signpost: I'm gonna get ahead of the game and put some "Free Taiwan!" comments in there.
shinohai: all USE flags in pentacle gonna be national flags of whatever the current thing is.
phf: install sbcl +🇺🇦🇿🇼🇹🇼