mats: great new pic on phfs log
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Aerthean: Hi Asciilifeform, I've been a reader of the logs and your website for several years.
Aerthean: There's a decent chance you already came across this, but figured I would mention it on the chance you hadn't.
Aerthean: Thanks for the work you've done on FFA and your other writings.
Aerthean: Sorry, I wasn't sure about the etiquette of leaving a connection open from somewhere or just following up on responses that appeared in the logs
Aerthean: Regarding registering a key with the WoT, does a process exist for updating said key post registration (aside from asking trinque? nicely)
Aerthean: Thanks, I thought that was the case, but better to verify. I could generate a key on my current computer, but I may be better off delaying until I bring something up more stripped down. Even though I've following the logs, and know how to act better security-wise, still often act lazy.
Aerthean: I bought one of the PCEngines APU1 for that purpose
Aerthean: I've also got a few old laptops floating around, I think at least one of them pre-dates the Management Engine
Aerthean: Either way, I'll get something set up, and get a key registered.
Aerthean: Thanks, it's worth setting that up on the apu1 whether I use it for keys or not
Aerthean: I recall you had a strong warning regarding emerging and syncing. Given the rather large changes gcc that you've mentioned ( removing of static linking, etc )
Aerthean: Ah, yeah I followed along with some of the musl work, I put some effort into building a musl-based FreeRTOS system for a Xilinx Zynq
Aerthean: Eventually I gave up as I had other work to do, and didn't have the motivation to find and tear out all the Xilinx'isms that prevented it from building
Aerthean: Yeah, I discovered that, just a bunch of miscellaneous differences
Aerthean: Yes, I use their software for work
Aerthean: I think they have a separate copy of their Place and Route software (or however one would describe it), for every single FPGA instance
Aerthean: With Vivado they pulled out support for most of their older chips
snsabot: Logged on 2020-08-20 17:59:10 asciilifeform: ( incidentally -- trinque , shinohai , et al --
ave1's www seems to be dead nao.. )
Aerthean: For an updated FG, I do a fair amount of work using LYSO + SiPMs for various things
Aerthean: You've mentioned using LYSO in the past in the logs, and I've been curious (in general) what approach you planned on taking
Aerthean: Ah, yeah the decay events tend to get in the way, especially if you're using Na22
Aerthean: So you'd have it sealed and depend solely on the L decay events?
Aerthean: Cost-wise how much were you looking for the electronics in the system?
Aerthean: Not a cheap business, and things always go wrong
Aerthean: I've found PINs good for non-fast pulse related tasks
Aerthean: True. I have some PINs at the lab and some LYSO tiles I'll try to take a look and see what results I get
Aerthean: Have you considered using SiPMs?
Aerthean: Depending on SiPM 40-70ish volts
Aerthean: What did you use for the amplifier circuitry?
Aerthean: You can get fairly good results from using a Sziklai Darlington
Aerthean: MMIC amps work as well, but suck a lot of power
Aerthean: I've run boards with SiPM + LYSO in open air, no shielding with good results
Aerthean: I'm assuming you're trying to keep it from leaking RF everywhere
Aerthean: Hm, it's odd, because I've used SiPM + LYSO and while you have some noise, it's usually worst case the size of the SiPM single-photon or dark pulses
Aerthean: LYSO pulses were much bigger than that
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Up top he has a link to the category he uses for book reviews he has done
Aerthean: Ah! There's the misunderstanding, you want robust against RF attack
Aerthean: Well, I can't say robust against say ham radio next to amp, but I can say doesn't pick up FM stations
shinohai: But anyone with grey matter can do.
Aerthean: In the end, best thing to do is run some tests and post data for others to look at
Aerthean: I remember reading the paper you posted about an RNG that used a Zener I think.
Aerthean: Except they messed up their design by whitening the output
Aerthean: I've found that a truism about many things.
Aerthean: Yes, just because one has a tool doesn't mean one can use it correctly
Aerthean: Thanks for indulging my curiousity.
Aerthean: I downloaded them in the past and read through them. Thought about baking a copy
Aerthean: The parts also don't cost much
Aerthean: As mentioned above, most don't know of its existence. Then of those who do know, most probably don't care enough to build / buy.
Aerthean: Given the amount of money sloshing around these days it's hard to tell
Aerthean: Nth front corporation of some US / other govt. organization
Aerthean: I think one can only do the right thing if one has a robust meat + extended wot
Aerthean: For the record, I don't. So I continue to work my simple technician job.
Aerthean: I suspect if it were becoming a success, then something would happen
Aerthean: True, even natural events can bankrupt you
Aerthean: You depend on a particular IC and the vendor stops building it
Aerthean: I only have small knowledge of the fabrication field, mostly based on researching what you + others wrote about
Aerthean: I've done some work with a company that got some non-silicon analog devices fabricated and I helped with the wafer dicing and testing. This particular product never really worked out
Aerthean: Yes, in our case the yield turned out ok, but the design had other problems.
Aerthean: The company also had their own small fab where they could modify / bake things in very tiny quantities
Aerthean: Probably the only way to do anything cost-effectively
Aerthean: and when you get a couple of $mil, suddenly other things become important
Aerthean: Yes, that or they'd rather spend the money on drugs, whores, houses, boats, cars, etc
Aerthean: I never showed up in trilema as MP started getting very ban happy
Aerthean: I found his writing hit or miss, more miss in the future.
BingoBoingo: Bipeds will appreciate civilized techs to the extent it allows them to dope
BingoBoingo: Ah, that yes. Especially considering those respirators drove a lot of the early mortality during the panic. (mechanical ventilation + inflamed lungs = traumatized and inflamed lungs)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Some do, but dope people do their own sort of inner circle stotting. Same thing drives increasingly elaborate water pipes.
BingoBoingo has been proceeding these past few months as though tourism and entertainment, however anti-socially reconfigured, will return in a way.
Aerthean: BingoBoingo: Aside from water pipes the last time I had contact with the dope subculture vaping? had become popular. Filling a large plastic balloon with smoke and breathing it in.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Border largely closed. Brothels reluctant to formally reopen. Theaters and museums adopted a bunch of weird.
BingoBoingo: Aerthean: Vaping takes rather heavily tariffed tech here. Papers are still the locally dominant smoking tech.
Aerthean: BingoBoingo: Thanks, I'm surprised they would have such high tariffs on it.
BingoBoingo: Aerthean: 400 USD balloon filler turns into 900 USD balloon filler
BingoBoingo: Aerthean: General thing they do to imports here.
BingoBoingo: Computers, pnoHes similarly marked up in the general case.
Aerthean: BingoBoingo: That's a high markup! I was tangentially aware of the tariffs from the Pizarro venture, but in my mind I consider balloon filler fairly low tech
BingoBoingo: Other devices far less expensive, but the balloon filling one still fairly fringe first world thing. Gets tarriff markup and "This is going to take up shop space for a while" markup
Aerthean: Ah, every middle-man wants his cut. I recall first seeing it in the states back in 2010-2012ish.
mats: i have a few fg i wouldn't mind selling for 100usd of btc
shinohai: mats: Will DM you back about that in a few days.
snsabot: Logged on 2020-08-20 17:25:56 Aerthean: Regarding registering a key with the WoT, does a process exist for updating said key post registration (aside from asking trinque? nicely)
snsabot: Logged on 2020-08-20 17:59:10 asciilifeform: ( incidentally -- trinque , shinohai , et al --
ave1's www seems to be dead nao.. )
Aerthean: trinque: Thanks, I will attempt to not have to change my key. Currently going through ascii's dulap instructions, once I get things working I'll generate a key and register it.