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(pest) asciilifeform: adj'd for usd printolade flood, exchrate not substantially moved in... 4y?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: lol! not even a shitcoin 'bank', eh, but regular printolade warehouse ??
(pest) asciilifeform: (why, when running own kingdom on printolade precisely like washington does)
(pest) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-11-08 14:21:22 asciilifeform: on the rare occasions when > n, for some n, folx show up to demand actual btc rather than yellow printolade -- 'ohnoez, we got hacked' etc
(pest) bitbot[asciilifeform]: (asciilifeform) 2020-03-12 asciilifeform: pretty interesting, imho. usd prints $tril of fresh printolade, and folx... buy it
(pest) asciilifeform: on the rare occasions when > n, for some n, folx show up to demand actual btc rather than yellow printolade -- 'ohnoez, we got hacked' etc
(pest) asciilifeform: moron goes to gox, hands in some green printolade in exch for some 'yellow' printolade.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: and not simple matter of 'they ordered' -- reich cannot operate w/out printolade; printer cannot operate w/out the 'kinetic' component of fiatola hegemony
(pest) asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-09-13#1012816 << a, except that most printolade is handed not to humans to buy mcphood, but to 'investors', to prop up 'markets' (and + to maintain the titled barons )
(pest) PeterL[asciilifeform]: signpost: printolade distributed to people, they use it to buy btc, bitcoin prices rise?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: phf: lolnope. tho the basic 'seekrit' aint any kinda seekrit at all -- when the pro gamblers lose a bet, generally cover with nearly-phree credit (which on acct of printolade becomes payable off with future winnings)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: 2nd-order amplifier -- if rumour that printolade gravy train might be late or thin in given interval, panic sells, margin calls, etc. if opposite -- bubble reinflation. rinse, repeat.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-24#1080427 << afaik 'stonks' naodays ~100% made of and correlated w/ printolade production, rather than of anyffin else whatsoever
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: the folx printing printolade aint out to 'end up with moar fiat or btc'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: billymg: not only not holds same purchasing power, but as the destruction of the industrial economy carries on (by, among other means, printolade-flooding) the purchasing power drops nonlinearly
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-30#1070296 << in actuality wealth aint printolade, or even btc, but goods/services; from this pov, 'btc's share of pie' (i.e. goods/services buyable directly with actual btc) is microscopic
(asciilifeform) billymg: switch to monthly candles to see the longterm history, shows quite clearly the exchange rate relative to the amount of printolade never left the 2017 range
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: i.e. 'ordinary gambling nao outpaced by printolade over9000, let's gamble x9000 ?'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: i'm curious how you think the low interest could possibly be 'separate thing' from printolade. ( where are the low-interest bitcoin loans, for instance ? )
(asciilifeform) mats: qe (printolade?) is a separate thing from low interest rates
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: where it is the ~low~ interest loans (of fresh printolade, naturally, what the fuck ~else~ could be lent at low interest to ~allcomers) which inflate prices into stratosphere, and make participation just about mandatory
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-08-02 18:52:13 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-02#1049949 << what does a 14th c fella have to do with the printolade-elite of postww2?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-02#1049949 << what does a 14th c fella have to do with the printolade-elite of postww2?
(asciilifeform) billymg: asciilifeform: i guess even so, if exchange rate tanks, and 21M limit stays intact, and printolade continues to be printed (because of course it will be), then number eventually goes up again
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: mats: wasn't supposing they would cooperate; rather, got the picture that in mats's cosmography, they reverse roles (e.g. cn prints printolade, usa supplies cheap slave labour)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: q is whether the printolade-fueled usury 'industry' will succeed in doing to bitcoin what ibmµshit succeeded in doing to linux.
(alethepedia) asciilifeform: billymg: modern version is moar subtle (i.e. reich attempts to ensure that printolade ends up 'where supposed to', inflating financial instruments, real estate, etc. which can then be taxed for 'gains', effectively confiscating a chunk in favour of the crown, and rinse & repeat, 'goto 10') rather than uncontrolled corkscrew
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: trinque: entirely, imho, possible that simply existence of printolade-usd fully accounts for the visible givens
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( all of this rather orthogonal to the subj of 'when does it even make sense to trade btc for printolade, at all' )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: afaik the july $2T printolade dump is driving.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: whereas in shitholes that retained 'ancient egyptian' algo of formally conscripted corvee labor -- e.g. north kr -- ~0 substantial inflation, the printolade aint needed
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: thimbronion: inflation has two ends -- the shortages end , and the uncontrolled-printolade-emission end, which i suspect is the 1 yer thinking of;
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: pretty interesting, imho. usd prints $tril of fresh printolade, and folx... buy it
(ossasepia) jfw: come to think of it, the "problem with the fed was its restraint" quip isn't technically accurate. The issue was more about what the printolade gets spent on; they wanted the emphasis on big infrastructure projects, Science, Education, space programs and such.
(trilema) asciilifeform: trinque: imho the moar printolade flowed 'through' $proggy, tends to be the moar of a turd it is
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2019-07-31 00:24 asciilifeform: imho actually a mistake to think of e.g. f35 as 'product' that 'has a price', as if it were toyota -- what instead is that the parasitic toad at any given time demands x %% of the printolade, and produces/pretends to produce certain # of golden toilets, and x / # is then 'price'
(trilema) asciilifeform: imho actually a mistake to think of e.g. f35 as 'product' that 'has a price', as if it were toyota -- what instead is that the parasitic toad at any given time demands x %% of the printolade, and produces/pretends to produce certain # of golden toilets, and x / # is then 'price'
(trilema) asciilifeform: i.e. can't buy it with the printolade or pyramid would topple ?
(trilema) mp_en_viaje: cuz everyone's a lawyer and lotta printolade.
(trilema) asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-11#1912396 << at the core, it's a scheme to get derps to buy new cars, on ruinous credit. the 'cabbies' paid out of 'investor' printolade, but i suspect the car vendors pay kickback to the orig scammer, and 1 day will be found precisely how
(trilema) asciilifeform: ( usd printolade press birthed not only 100k auto that's 90% plastic , but even this is not enuff to make their manufacture +ev , they gotta nao also turn'em into chump milking machines by ~design~ )
(trilema) asciilifeform: the mice dun learn either, witness the mass-migration to shithub ( ~exactly same thing, but with moar printolade to prop it up )
(trilema) asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-20#1898163 << could be quite interesting read. didjaknow, for instance, that the javatards got showered with enuff printolade that they baked chips ? and that none of these were in any sense commercial success ?
(trilema) asciilifeform: it is even rumoured that usg is pouring printolade into fischer-tropsch , a la the ~prev~ reich
(trilema) asciilifeform: aha, gets buckets of printolade and dresses up as 'income', like other usg.tbtf.corps.*
(trilema) asciilifeform: if not for massive printolade infusions, would have died at roughly same time as commodore co.
(trilema) asciilifeform: (today there's an inner core of printolade-purchased glass boxes, outside of it - 1890s construction, some of it still with faded e.g. 'fine imported furst' stencil print on the smog-coloured walls )
(trilema) asciilifeform: ( i suppose they work a+++ for the intended purpose -- printolade vacuum , dissertation mint )
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily enuff, google et al already 'offer' 150k and moar of 'really, we promise' printolade.
(trilema) asciilifeform: google is a big bag of printolade, is all.
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: occasionally folks do break things. presently they're stuck 1) publishing, and it gets patched within a day by enemy 2) the enemy's bounties, paid in printolade
(trilema) asciilifeform: (i.e. snarfing up that delish printolade like there's no tomorrow )
(trilema) trinque: asciilifeform: what volume of printolade does pizarro need per month?
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to be fair , pizarro dun necessarily need usd-flavour printolade, comceivably other flavours would suffice
(trilema) asciilifeform: prolly because ibm and oracle won't dispense fresh, thick greens of printolade for uttering heresies ?
(trilema) asciilifeform: that being said, afaik folx-with-money in usa prefer whiskey bottle, rather than 'joint' ; but this could change, already recent piles of printolade are distributed in the west, to 'joint' folx, in preference of east cost whiskeyists.
(trilema) asciilifeform also wonders whether there isn't a hidden symbiosis between the usg.corp derps who prolly ship ~100% of the rackable comps ever before shipped to UY, and the 'we want a cut of that printolade you print' bridgetrolls
(trilema) asciilifeform: potentially interesting, i did not to date consider it. dun forget tho that they get ~infinite pile of printolade from lockheed, boeing, et al.
(trilema) asciilifeform: not substantially different from other american 'incomes', e.g. lockheed's , ( i.e. usg prints printolade, sends straight to $designateds )
(trilema) shinohai: http://archive.is/5mr7c <<< In printolade news "Tether printed MORE USD than US government in 2018"
(trilema) asciilifeform: ~they~ print. and use the printolade to organize massive pyramid-building projects (e.g. the infamous 'battleship' that clogged the panama canal last year) and breed armies of idiots.
(trilema) asciilifeform: printolade is a device for 'bloodless', quiet remote theft.
(trilema) ReadErr: printolade is a finite resource then ?
(trilema) ReadErr: not gonna lie, im lost as to what printolade is
(trilema) asciilifeform: !#s printolade
(trilema) asciilifeform: anyway, some starting points : there are two types of money. bitcoin, and printolade
(trilema) asciilifeform: that's, what, 100m in modern printolade neh
(trilema) asciilifeform: 100% printolade-powered, today.
(trilema) asciilifeform: dunno that it makes sense to give any particular printolade-bubble overseer the distinction of a name and attributed agency. it's not unlike pinning the black plague on a particular, named rat
(trilema) asciilifeform: and noshit it isn't as if they pay in btc or gold, 100% printolade-powered item
(trilema) asciilifeform: for so long as it is verboten to include the screamingly obvious printolade-via-fractionalreserve thing, yes, can have as many epicycles as they feel like
(trilema) asciilifeform: dunno that they need any such thing as 'savings to plunder' -- just printolade
(trilema) mod6: sometimes its a tmsr-ism like 'printolade'
(trilema) asciilifeform: the evaporation of the buying power of said printolade, also nuked the immune systems of the chumps,
(trilema) asciilifeform: printolade has this effect, where idiots are awash in >subsistence moneys. prick'em and they bleed it -- like ground once gushed with delicious petro without so much as proper drilling in 19th c
(trilema) pete_dushenski wonders what was etymology of 'printolade'. it's a great term!1
(trilema) pete_dushenski: !~google printolade
(trilema) mod6: yah, usgprintolade => eth
(trilema) asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: it's called printolade for a reason...
(trilema) Framedragger: (not sure what "good philosopher" would even mean these days, most of "modern philosophy" is same ol' "research journal" printolade anyway)
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2017-05-17 20:48 asciilifeform: not only this: the very same ratshack actually died once (i went to the same liquidation sales, bought the furniture, etc) and then somehow came BACK from the grave, (no prizes for guessing how -- printolade) undead, to live for another 3y
(trilema) asciilifeform: not only this: the very same ratshack actually died once (i went to the same liquidation sales, bought the furniture, etc) and then somehow came BACK from the grave, (no prizes for guessing how -- printolade) undead, to live for another 3y
(trilema) asciilifeform: a very selected 'they', and - naturally - with fresh printolade
(trilema) asciilifeform: pretty lulzy inversion of the usual corporate dynamic, where there are shareholders and they want growing profits; instead there is a printolade supplier, who wants manageable (or -- optimistically -- slowing!) bleed
(trilema) asciilifeform: the miracle of printolade.
(trilema) asciilifeform: how is printolade ( the last time asciilifeform bought postage stamps, they came out of an INKJET PRINTER i shit thee not, right in the vending machine) a hedge of any sort ?
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: or how 'create wealth' means 'drill into the printolade pipeline'
(trilema) asciilifeform: and 'i want to not have printolade exist' and 'i want not to have to buy new hdd every year' is such a pair.
(trilema) asciilifeform: if you cannot show a coinbase origin for EVERY coin that ever existed, you have printolade.
(trilema) asciilifeform: valid also means 'nobody gets to printolade'
(trilema) asciilifeform: funnily enough it was approx 2k of 2016-printolade's worth.
(trilema) asciilifeform: 2 or 3 missed printolade boats and argentina could , in theory, convert to egypt
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "you know, if you can squeeze a tenth of a percent of a performance increase out of their chips over the course of your career there, you'll be sitting pretty with that dumptruck of printolade showing up at your house every two weeks!"
(trilema) asciilifeform: though no shortage of printolade
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no individual may be credited with leaking printolade. it -- leaks.
(trilema) asciilifeform: no idiots with massive leaking bags of printolade -- no herokus.
(trilema) adlai: thestringpuller: if your net worth's center of gravity lies close to the printolade axis, it's negative on hard currency scales
(trilema) asciilifeform: eh they already know how to 'energy from ether', it is called printolade
(trilema) mircea_popescu: Bugpowder seems it has some chance to become the next usg-sponsored wanna-be bitcoin thingee. that's usually good for a ride, fed still has a lot of printolade to spread around.
(trilema) asciilifeform: (~where~ they get the printolade, whether from redditcard or from turning tricks, i do not know, but there is never such a time that the shops are not packed)
(trilema) asciilifeform: if somehow (dun ask me how!) folks stop buyin' the pnoje - it'll be run on pure synthetic printolade oil, like, e.g., ford.
(trilema) asciilifeform: most of the printolade, at least in so far as is visible to public naked eye, went into real estate racket
(trilema) asciilifeform: the printolade press - pays.
(trilema) asciilifeform: if it were 50000 - would be 50000-epsilon. and after a few rounds of printolade, probably will.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: what will they spend on ? upkeeping roads ? "social justice" ? building really REALLY large cyclotron much better option than anything the us did with its set of printolade in the same interval.
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: neh, they should not have 'given the money to me!11111' but NOT GIVEN OUT BARRELS OF PRINTOLADE
(trilema) asciilifeform: dunno that the folks at the printolade shop got the memo yet tho
(trilema) asciilifeform: eh, the american variant (where sc4mz0rz stow imaginary printolade in faux 'havens', where their accounts get promptly zeroed out upon discovery) is scarcely an improvement
(trilema) asciilifeform: every tinpot dictator with his own printolade printer thinks 'independent'
(trilema) asciilifeform: printolade by the bucket - sure.
(trilema) ascii_deadfiber: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-22#1486702 << this is where i ???. what exactly have they lost? check out, they sent crate of printolade, pumped air right back into ethercrud, etc.
(trilema) asciilifeform: literally a bladder in which to temporarily store printolade while it cools down ?
(trilema) asciilifeform: in other nyooz, jp about to drop $100B of printolade.
(trilema) asciilifeform: hand out printolade to favourite sons, who are now 'legit owners' of x,y,z
(trilema) asciilifeform: unheard-of marvels will be seen, e.g., minerz paid in megatonnes of fresh printolade, thread, & broken glass, not to mine
(trilema) asciilifeform: miners will receive as much printolade as it takes. the ones who refuse - 'have problems' etc.
(trilema) asciilifeform: the other observation is that the house-builders and title-holding banks do not need anyone to actually live in the property to make their printolade.
(trilema) asciilifeform: too many americans spreading printolade ?
(trilema) asciilifeform: ^ usg says 'ty mp, have moar fine fresh printolade'
(trilema) mircea_popescu: but you're right, they won't. and you're right, ofcourse - printolade. which also happens to be EXACTLY what mr engineer is paind in, anyway. which is EXACTLY why he won't.
(trilema) asciilifeform: and doubtless mircea_popescu knows that they aren't spending tax receipts, but printolade.