billymg[asciilifeform]: !ticker btc usd
billymg[asciilifeform]: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $16921.08
billymg[asciilifeform]: i'm a little suspicious of the timing of this recent chaos, USD is currently rugging. reminds me of march 2020
bitbot[asciilifeform]: (asciilifeform) 2020-03-12 asciilifeform: pretty interesting, imho. usd prints $tril of fresh printolade, and folx... buy it
billymg[busybot]: also, attn awt, whaack, anyone thinking of moving to cr: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-11-11#1015972 (in case it got lost yesterday)
bitbot[busybot]: Logged on 2022-11-11 14:29:32 billymg: some bitcoin legislation being proposed in CR: http://billymg.com/downloads/Crypto-Asset-Market-Law-23415.pdf
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2022-11-11 14:29:43 billymg: overall looks not bad, as far as these things go
billymg[asciilifeform]: whoops, this one: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-11-11#1015974
billymg[asciilifeform]: for additional context, the guy who sponsored and led the drafting of the bill is a contact of mine here. any feedback left here will make it back to him directly
signpost[asciilifeform]: pretty cool!
signpost[asciilifeform]: billymg: the definition of ownership here is suprisingly sane.
signpost[asciilifeform]: "not your keys not your coins"
signpost[asciilifeform]: nice to see a carve-out for developers in the service provider definition
signpost[asciilifeform]: there's some ambiguity about whether the operator of a smart contract is a service provider or a developer though. maybe that needs to be further distinguished.
signpost[asciilifeform]: shitcoiners are also likely to abuse the shit out of the NFT carve-out
signpost[asciilifeform]: I'd like to see capital requirements and reporting requirements for service providers. codify proof of funds, why not?
phf[asciilifeform]: asciilifeform, you ever took any gilmer l. blankenship's classes at umd?
asciilifeform: phf: nein
asciilifeform: phf: dun recall encountering anyone by that name either. what did he teach?
asciilifeform looks in their www. apparently -- electronics
asciilifeform: ( for foot prosthetics? )
phf[asciilifeform]: yeah, like "real" electronics, discrete signal analysis that kind of stuff
asciilifeform: phf: worked in his group ?
phf[asciilifeform]: nah, i picked up an old conference proceedings at a bookstore in portland out of all the places, "symbolic computation, applications to scientific computing". there's a paper there on non-linear control systems package for macsyma. i decided to check if the code's been ever published (as if!), and realized that the prof. u
phf[asciilifeform]: nder whose supervision it was done is this blankenship guy and that he taught at umd
phf[asciilifeform]: i took the classes that he taught, but with different professors. maybe different time frame (e.g. the paper is from 1988, even though he still seems to be active), or just randomly chose somebody else
asciilifeform defo not encountered
phf[asciilifeform]: guy's been doing real engineering research since forever, all his related news are "TRX Systems Receives Tibbets Award for Excellence: Operated by women who are ECE alumni ..." "Alumnus Profile: Pratik Gupta" "Beneficiaries include two Ph.D. fellowships in robotics, the Center for Minorities in Science and Engineering, a r
phf[asciilifeform]: obotics capstone course, the Black Engineers Society and the Society of Professional Hispanic Engineers."
asciilifeform: aa lol these. prolly all of'em nao with these.
asciilifeform: (or nomoar moolah)
phf[asciilifeform]: meanwhile prof's papers: "richard chen" "kevin wagner"
phf[asciilifeform]: i wonder if richard chen is a member of black engineers society or the society of professional hispanic engineers?
asciilifeform: laff, but in principle could be. afaik they dun check for proper colour
phf[busybot]: Kevin Wagner,
asciilifeform meanwhile set up ffa-style build with the fltk ada thing's helloworld, aalmost worx but linker barfs at very end, 'cannot find -lfltk'
phf[asciilifeform]: United States Naval Research Laboratory. most recent papers coauthored with Miloš Doroslovački
phf[asciilifeform]: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/author/37276948400 richard chen, ee ph.d. from umd in 2000. yeah sounds about right, the tail end of umd putting out talent
phf[asciilifeform]: forget fltk, i'm uncovering white supremacism in big science here
asciilifeform: lolyes
asciilifeform: 'He is currently with the Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, D.C. His research interests include stochastic control, Markov processes, and multifunction radar' << 'character: aryan!'(tm)(r)
awt[asciilifeform]: billymg: indeed I missed cr crypto link. thx.
asciilifeform meanwhile discovers that fltk on dulap-gentoo ~not~ statically linked, even with USE="static-libs static"
crtdaydreams[busybot]: In more ftx lulz, claims of being 'hacked'
crtdaydreams[busybot]: hmmmmm
crtdaydreams[busybot|asciilifeform]: they're not even trying are they?
asciilifeform: crtdaydreams: see also.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-11-08 14:21:22 asciilifeform: on the rare occasions when > n, for some n, folx show up to demand actual btc rather than yellow printolade -- 'ohnoez, we got hacked' etc
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform|busybot]: precisely what was eluding to
shinohai[asciilifeform]: Yeah been watching that unfold in realtime crtdaydream, lulzy
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform|busybot]: ah yis "we filed for ch. 11, but we actually had the btc but we got hacked, yes in that order, no we don't have any btc we can give you"
asciilifeform: recall original gox. precisely same scheme
asciilifeform: 'hacked' == 'sumbody called the fractionalreserve bluff, so wainot steal errything, wai should the morons get even % of deposits'
crtdaydreams[busybot]: oughta hook up a hydroelectric to buterins right now
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform|busybot]: glows hard
asciilifeform finally realized that fltk author's 'statically linked' claim is bogus, thing still expects dynamic x11, xft, etc. may be possible to cheat w/ e.g. dlopen tho.
asciilifeform: afaik static linkage of x11 in such a way as to bake trb-style portable musltronic bin -- still unsolved.
asciilifeform: phf signpost et al ^
asciilifeform wonders how authors of popular linux warezes (e.g. 'eagle') did it
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2020-08-08 asciilifeform: of item i personally used in depth -- 'eagle' cad.