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BingoBoingo: In other news, some sort of Derp about Vzla meeting in town today. Going to be popping in and out of Datacenter just to be seen and watch the glory of the blinkenlights
BingoBoingo: Also in local news the police apparently raided the wrong house yesterday and a lulzy tape of herps hammering for minutes on the mundane for here front door gate before entering is lulzy tape.
asciilifeform: guten morgen BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: Mornin'
asciilifeform: in other cuntooisms : if anyone is short a x64 box to test-fire cuntoo with, asciilifeform has a surplus disposable box, 'lenovo s10-3' , with that same chipset as in x60 etc period ( ) , if anyone in l1 wants, it's yours for the cost of postage ( has a mechanical hdd in it, i fughet of what size )
asciilifeform: ( cpu is intel , 'N455', 1 of their earliest 64bit lappy product )
BingoBoingo: !Xview 1037
auctionbot: Buy order # 1037: 2k Wired Filthy Fiats (WU esta bien) Opening: 610mn ecu Leading Bid: None Ending: 2019-02-08 02:11:49.889189 UTC (20 hours 48 mins)
BingoBoingo: ^ Just under 21 hours left to bid in the Pizarro fiat buying auction
feedbot: << Qntra -- France Withdraws Ambassador From Rome Over Macron's Opposition To Italian Support For French Democracy
BingoBoingo: BTC/USD price implied by the opening offer is 3278.69 USD/BTC
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: s/participate diplomacy/participate in diplomacy/
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: ty, fxd
BingoBoingo: !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.03542500 hanbot AMD64 playground
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the everlulz, Cisza 21F sub 3h "Don't you know what lesbian means? fuck you" LordMPofTMSR "Lmao. I should know, I'm sure I fucked more than you."
mircea_popescu: very much truth, btw, i don't know there exist three girls alive that've fucked more lesbians than you truly.
trinque: sorry about that ^
trinque: BingoBoingo: you'll have to re-run.
asciilifeform: guten tag trinque , mircea_popescu
trinque: now that we're at something of a cuntoo interude while folks are testing, I'll find some time to figure out what deedbot gags on time to time re: reconnecting
trinque: hola asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: trinque iirc spyked was sorta chasing the same bug.
mircea_popescu: can just as well eat something else off plate.\
mircea_popescu: dat trilemalotto, such wins in gems and goldbricks.
BingoBoingo: !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.03542500 hanbot AMD64 playground
BingoBoingo: ty trinque
mircea_popescu: three-an-a-half tits!
BingoBoingo: !!v 20D69B251E0AE308BC6F1FC96C91FE2BB5C9385B3E9F8D624E063793A34A97B4
mircea_popescu: 0.01 bitcoin, also known as a titspot.
deedbot: Invoiced mircea_popescu 0.03542500 << hanbot AMD64 playground
BingoBoingo: Titspots indeed
mircea_popescu goes to write the last month;'s report. which was going to get done sooner if we didn't end up drinking a lot of sangrias an' partying with the hooters waitresses.
asciilifeform: !!later tell diana_coman: finally dug up the item ( believe or not, '98 disk reads a++ ) : . you'll need 'arj' but that ought not to be problem on dos box.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-03 17:42 asciilifeform: diana_coman: it's on a mitsumi gold cd thing, i'ma excavate it tomorrow morning
asciilifeform: ( ~700MB , and cannot guarantee that all items will work on emulator, some of'em did require fiddling w/ config.sys etc in the olden days.. )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if you can get hold of actual dos box with e.g. 'soundblaster', most of what's in there oughta work, in principle.
diana_coman: thanks asciilifeform! I'm downloading it
asciilifeform: diana_coman: np. lemme know which flavours the kid ended up liking, i may have moar in the depths of the warez chests along those lines.
diana_coman: atm he's struggling to become finger-agile enough for supaplex-proficiency so it might take a while
diana_coman: he still has restriction on too much screen time so there is that factor too
asciilifeform: i played good chunk of those back when was same size as him and at elder brother's mercy for cpu cycles, lol, also
BingoBoingo: In other olds, the present live version of this archived url shows nothing but EU General Derp Protection Act redaction notice
diana_coman: iirc I was a bit older actually; at 6-7 it was only Basic and casette loading stuff, I think I was more like 10-12 for supaplex
asciilifeform: ah hm i may have overestimated the size
mircea_popescu: diana_coman not as long as you think, i recall the same exact summer i went from fearing the forks in june to playing with them for sport in august.
mircea_popescu: (i am right in thinking the "move just as it approaches so it turns around" trick is common knowledge yes ?)
diana_coman: heh, yes; he still gets caught at "run down chased by stuff and turn sharply left/right"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can't picture one'd get far in supa w/out knowing that, yea
mircea_popescu: i think i was more like 7 than 5
mircea_popescu: btw, if anyone cares -- i never had "screentime restrictions" besides a purely oral "would you be reasonable!!!" ; doesn't seem to have done me any harm.
mircea_popescu: the high level i suppose is disputable ; but when getting down to practicals, i was still reading the bottom line on the eye chart at time-and-a-half the distance when we fitted bimbo for glasses.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I never had screen restriction either but for one thing, I did not start at 4 and for the other there is plenty other stuff (including sleep!) that needs to fit it so...
mircea_popescu: sleep is for later, when he goes to bed with girls. ALL THE TIME FOR SLEEP IN THE WORLD THEN!
asciilifeform didnt have 'restriction' as such, but when was single-digit y.o. shared what was left of the day's cpu after brother had eaten
mircea_popescu: now computers, that's important.
asciilifeform: arguably both asciilifeform & brother had 'too much screen' , given as both grew to program for bread, life of sin.
mircea_popescu: the sad truth of the matter being, that with the machines in the shit our simpler brothers (whom jahweh still awaits in his special place in his kingdom) it's much easier for children than for adults to maintain interest in the damned things.
mircea_popescu: too much shit to annoy and irritate once one's past his prime.
diana_coman: hm, I'm not even sure he doesn't disagree on that already given that he was at his happiest when among 3 sisters
mircea_popescu: did he splash 'em ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a greybeard once told asciilifeform , 'you dun know it, but you got finite # loc in you, once you've written them will stand the machine no moar and have to move to forest and eat bark'. i'm not even convinced that it was joke.
diana_coman: no idea but according to reports he "looked totally like a satisfied cat and didn't want to leave"
mircea_popescu: now you see why i save.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, q being though ...what's wrong with moving to the forest anyway?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the moar loc, the less i see wrong w/bark, lol
mircea_popescu: his appreciation for culinary virtues of treebark isn't fully developed yet.
asciilifeform: it develops as the odometer rolls.
diana_coman: well, just choose some forest with...mushrooms at least!
mircea_popescu: who knows, maybe you end up reinventing java then.
asciilifeform: the idea , i think, is to stop before the fungus sets in an' you start producing those.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-07 19:18 mircea_popescu: the high level i suppose is disputable ; but when getting down to practicals, i was still reading the bottom line on the eye chart at time-and-a-half the distance when we fitted bimbo for glasses.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 01:24 feedbot: << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of June, July and August, 1715. - Account of Books - II.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ftr, ~each~ memo line for the ~same machine~ during the past 4 billings reads differently.
mircea_popescu: why not just pick something and go with it ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Will do
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho oughta formulate as ' $machine ; $interval ; $ cost '
BingoBoingo: Will make sure all that information is included
BingoBoingo: In other wild finds relating to See: Pinned Tweet Charlie Shrem Verified account @CharlieShrem 20 Feb 2017: Watch me go from CEO to Dishwasher in "Disrupting Money" (derpurl)
asciilifeform: lol 'surprised by wealth'(tm)(r)(esr)
mircea_popescu: guy was always a dishwasher.
asciilifeform: i expect will soon write megab00k, 'how to lose friends and infuriate people'
mircea_popescu: it's a wonder nobody ever "figures out" the grand usgistani preoccupation with "youth" is entirely built out of a solid bedrock of "you will disapoint" certainty.
mircea_popescu: is this format irritating actually ?
asciilifeform: imho this is great format ( tho phf hasn't baked the eater of it yet )
mircea_popescu: kinda seems to me the alternative of unanchored urls even more infuriating
asciilifeform: if he finds how to make the eater survive broken lines , will be double win
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun find the [] irritating at all
asciilifeform: think, could actually ~use~ hypertext...
deedbot: accepted: 1
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the usg.'youth' eagerly and w/out much massage swallow the 'you have Great Ideas!11' idjicy ( where reality is 'yer a not-yet-dry lemon to squeeze' )
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu had a piece where described this algo, on which errything from hollywood to softwaretardism has been running for ~100y
asciilifeform: koschei economy.
mircea_popescu: the problem is the breakdown of the fambly. father should have craked skull let all the goange & gargauni out long before 18th bday.
asciilifeform: hm i thought it was 'gargauni & barzauni'
mircea_popescu: also. many kinds.
asciilifeform: ( on asciilifeform's home planet typically folx say simply тараканы , i.e. cockroaches , in skull )
mircea_popescu: romanians imply various subtle distinction. eg, "gargaun" would be the sort of skittering beetle that digs unseen and ruins structures, like termite or weevil (the folk name of which, "gargarita", very much model for name)
asciilifeform: nifty, descriptive.
mircea_popescu: whereas barzaun would be loudly and ineptly flying item, like various carabidae
mircea_popescu: so in this sense, inept shit like "o guys, i'm bitcoin jizzus" very much barzaun, whereas inept idiocy like "oh, why should i read log, i am busyman", gargaun.
mircea_popescu: goange more generic name, and i fear the implication is that female headspace not worthy of such distinctions, to be described generically.
mircea_popescu: hence why "goange & gargauni" implies a gender-balanced population, whereas the other'd go better with eg gunnery sgt hartman's job.
mircea_popescu: (in the direct, barzaun is the euro hornet, vespa crabro)
asciilifeform: sadly seems that father can not only remove these , but insert.
mircea_popescu: there's a reason maga's but a dream.
asciilifeform: y'know , sorta like how zoologists found iirc that hedgehog (the most flea-infested known , afaik, beast) can be de-flea'd, and breed similarly clean hedgehog
asciilifeform: but erry known specimen from wild carries multiple grams of flea
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't want to play any computer games hedgehogs made.
asciilifeform: ( incidentally afaik hedgehog is not found in the americas. and i do not know specifically why, gotta presume that ~someone~ must've set some loose at some point -- but they cannot live here )
mircea_popescu: possibly raccoon eats ?
asciilifeform: could be
asciilifeform: if can eat hive of hornets whole, and even drywall -- wainot hedgehog.
asciilifeform bbl,meats
feedbot: << Trilema -- MiniGame (S.MG), January 2019 Statement
diana_coman: I'll add to gargauni, goange and barzauni the "fluturi" as one might have those too!
diana_coman: since fluturi are butterflies, they are obviously lighter and not loud but also without much substance and not long lived
diana_coman: sort of day-dreaming stuff
mircea_popescu: arguably least harmful variety.
mircea_popescu: fwih esl gals only get them in the stomach.
mircea_popescu: a more practical-minded culture, aka "numa' la foale ti-i gindu', sa le-ndopi!"
diana_coman: well yes, less harmful, perhaps even pretty for a bit (until one remembers that they are anyway just flying worms of sorts)
mircea_popescu: sa scoatem untul din fluturi, tovarasi!
diana_coman: sometimes I wonder if practical-minded is not the polite way of saying unimaginative but anyways
diana_coman: daca-i cu tovarasi e cu margarina, nu cu unt!!
mircea_popescu: well... what comes out lol
feedbot: << Ossasepia -- Seppuku Job Market: Minimal Dynamic Tasking in Ada
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mircea_popescu: it is actually a word.
asciilifeform reads diana_coman's opus..
asciilifeform: a++ title btw.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 1 immediate q : why do the worker jobs have to be terminated & rebirthed ( rather than having N , 1 per cpu, and 4evah infinite loop of plucking work from queue & placing in finishedworx queue when done ) ?
mircea_popescu: because there's potentially more types of jobs than cores.
mircea_popescu: if you go "job is the player", then you'll trivially want to support more than 1 player/core. if you go "job is crafting or w/e", you will have 50 cores doing "crafting" one time and 5 another time depending and so on.
mircea_popescu: ie, you can't really have static jobs.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'workers' are specialized for particular type of job ? ( i haven't read the proggy yet -- but seems to me that if that's the case, oughta specialize'em by case selector inside 'worker', rather than eating the overhead of rebirthing thread 9000/sec )
asciilifeform: anyways i'ma only say moar after read proggy.
mircea_popescu: i find apache an excellent model for the problem here. the concept of "worker" as used there specifically.
asciilifeform has not used ada threadism yet, so quite interested to see what diana_coman made of it
mircea_popescu: i actually quite like the encapsulation she calls "sjm"
asciilifeform: << possibly i mentioned this prev., but asciilifeform avoids secondarystack not because it doesn't work reliably , but because it makes audit of binary moar difficult. i dunno if this concern is really applicable to items other than ffa.
mircea_popescu: it is most wise to start restricted and push out as need be, no sooner.
asciilifeform does not disagree
a111: Logged on 2019-01-22 22:35 asciilifeform: this is done with a standard ada feature called 'controlled limited type'. which i found that, for no documented reason, dunwork in gnat's static lib.
asciilifeform: i'm betting that it will work , cuz the type aint exported.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: << dun seem like diana_coman's mechanism specialized by creating different 'species' of 'worker' -- but by using case selector, as i expected it would. therefore it remains a puzzle to me why to terminate an' rebirth'em ( to save a few kB of ram when machine load is light ?? )
mircea_popescu: it's just wireframe!
mircea_popescu: you can't go "it doesn't seem to me this architectural model is very strong, seems made of polystyrene". yes, the model's made of polystyrene.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was nitpicking re the algo, rather than the draft coad per se
mircea_popescu: "i was nitpicking re strength, not the model per se". wth, it's not necessary the model airplane used to test out the worker hive's going to contain the sort of seating inside you can ~rely on~ to see in the finished item.
asciilifeform: fair'nuff
asciilifeform: << (again given that i haven't used the threadtron) interested to learn the answr to 'what do they weigh'
asciilifeform: ( as i understand, it could only happen if there is catastrophic error in the logic ? )
mircea_popescu: well no, it couyld happen because hardware is shit, software is shit, electromagnetism, you name it.
mircea_popescu: why did your rk reboot ?
asciilifeform: lol rk crashed and ate own shit, not reboot, yer thinking of the x64
asciilifeform: but yea
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have similar pieces , in .
a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 14:49 asciilifeform: on that subj, attentive ffa reader will notice in certain places asciilifeform marked in comment 'cosmic ray resistance' . this indicates mechanisms where there are two or more separate pieces that ensure a correct computation (or death with alarm bells) if somehow bit flips , when this is inexpensive.
asciilifeform intends eventually to actually try ffa on a micro with deliberately-glitchy environment, e.g. inside that xray oven, and see how this goes in real life
asciilifeform: the tricky bit with experiments like that, is that if you fry it enuff you get sram cells that go metastable, rather than simply flip, and then all bets off
asciilifeform: sorta why people still occasionally bother to bake 'si on saphire' etc rather than 'hey let's tandem 9000 konsoomer z80'
asciilifeform: will note tho, that if yer machine aint actually intended to fly on a rocket, placing it in a pb bottle is cheaper than baking saphire ic.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu may also find interesting , that apparently ~soft~ xray is 'glitchier' than hard ( the latter tends to penetrate w/out transferring energy )
mircea_popescu: certainly.
asciilifeform: in that light the oven oughta make a good ic frier, has adjustable voltage.
asciilifeform: << as a very small boy, asciilifeform had this toy, where little rocket with two plastic cosmonauts inside, and they were molded in such a way that they only had torso/arms/head, were whole with the cockpit; and took it, as 3-4y.o. might, quite literally, 'in the dark fyootoor man will be grown into ship, live an' die together'
a111: Logged on 2019-02-08 00:10 mircea_popescu: "i was nitpicking re strength, not the model per se". wth, it's not necessary the model airplane used to test out the worker hive's going to contain the sort of seating inside you can ~rely on~ to see in the finished item.
asciilifeform: later actually encountered this trope in fiction and thought of the toy.
mircea_popescu: you might've not been the only one, seen a lot of these
mircea_popescu: tho it's more usually woman-spider than man-starship.
asciilifeform: i dun think i had a woman-spider single-mold tentaclerape scene as toy. ( maybe in jp they do ? )
asciilifeform: oddly enuff i did not have this reaction to e.g. tin soldier molded in permanent pose with rifle, or similar .
asciilifeform: the rocket pilots specifically looked as if intended to suggest this thought.
mircea_popescu: reportedly centroamericans had same thought when presented with equestrian tin toys.
mircea_popescu: "manhorse!!!"
asciilifeform: oh ha, apparently ~errything~ is sitting on teh net somewhere, << subj, behold.
asciilifeform: << apparently other variants were even moar depressing, this poor fucker has only head
mircea_popescu: this might be the first tracked spaceship i ever saw.
mircea_popescu goes away whistling "a mudslide to paradise"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i misremembered, item was a 'moon buggy'
asciilifeform: tho could've sworn also were rocket etc with similar 'feature'.
asciilifeform: i recall pulling the magnets from the motors ( 2!111 of'em ) of that thing.
mircea_popescu: what else is an honest toy motor for!
mircea_popescu: it got so bad in mini-mp household, my father got me a stack of superalloy things. "how can you give that to a child ? you realise what can happen if he swallows one ?" (they were these thin tiny discs with hole in middle, enameled)
mircea_popescu: "do you realise what happens if he keeps mining $50 toys for 35 cent magnets ?"
asciilifeform: i dun think we had neodymium magnet in my orcistan
mircea_popescu: was the only way -- they had to be better, i wouldn't lower myself to mine inferior stuff.
asciilifeform: i mean at all. i dun think even in actual rocket su had'em.
mircea_popescu: i suspect might've been cobalt-nickel or w/e.
asciilifeform: these -- possib
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : "Chinese manufacturers have become a dominant force in neodymium magnet production, based on their control of much of the world's sources of rare earth mines. The United States Department of Energy has identified a need to find substitutes for rare earth metals in permanent magnet technology, and has begun funding such research. The Advanced Research Projects Agency-Energy has sponsored a Rare Earth Alternativ
mircea_popescu: es in Critical Technologies (REACT) program, to develop alternative materials. In 2011, ARPA-E awarded 31.6 million dollars to fund Rare-Earth Substitute projects."
mircea_popescu: the sheer pomposity of these morons.
asciilifeform: lol substitutes ?!!
asciilifeform: 'spreading -- works'
mircea_popescu: the sheer unmitigated gall to announce "they identified and sponsored". what the fuck's it supposed to do, i identified a need for more sluts and sponsored the creation thereof at two bits a titpair. what, usg,dea is better than me or something, is the hallucination here ?
mircea_popescu: leaving aside how the 2011 thread seems to never have return to nobody's concern. coulda baked some quantum computing magnets for the same money.
mircea_popescu: in fact, pressed shitboard supermagnet just as likely as 3d-printed quantum computer or whatever the fuck else. they get all the amateur twerps to pretend like pressed shitboard made houses are 100% true and real houses, what's keeping the imaginary magnets and imaginary computers i wish to know ?
asciilifeform: i suppose in 1 sense 'succeeded', iirc principal eater of nd magnet was ye olde mech hdd. tho i dunthink the rise of ssd had any to do with usg idjicy, only w/ korean coolies slaving in 4 shifts
mircea_popescu: the us could be producing supermagnets out of discarded starbucks cups just as well as it makes "bridges" or "college graduates" or whatever else they supposedly make.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform still no way to have high performance electric engine without high performance magnet. which is all the lulzier considering usgistani "innovation" in "how to go three miles to the galon by first turning it into a large lithium battery"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: small ones certainly
asciilifeform: ( large motors include 0 magnet, i suspect mircea_popescu knew this )
mircea_popescu: large electric engines also ~useless.
asciilifeform: y'know , lifts, submarines, etc
mircea_popescu: sure, and trains.
asciilifeform: it's a bitch to make e.g. small stepper w/out magnet.
mircea_popescu: except the us has no train infrastructure to speak of still, and instead of fixing that obvious problem blew wad on anti-car ; and the sligtht advantage submarine had historically is mostly gone, by now sub and ship equally detecvtable.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pretty sure even ~these~ they buy from siemens.
asciilifeform: amerisads forgot long ago how to make even such thing as electric motor.
mircea_popescu: well, it'd be unfair to women of color or some shit to make them.
asciilifeform: i expect there will be plenty of attempted-'substitute' lulz, a la the wooden spokes in wheels of late imperial jp trucks.
asciilifeform: it is even rumoured that usg is pouring printolade into fischer-tropsch , a la the ~prev~ reich
mircea_popescu: already in full swing. the one response when getting $item for enslaved usgistani girly is "o wow this is the best $item i ever had".
asciilifeform: ( coal is moar or less the 1 mineral resource left in north a in any substantial qty )
mircea_popescu: which is so su it screams, except of course it dun scream audibly enough to penetrate the us moron shell.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: verily. see also e.g.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-02 02:40 asciilifeform: asciilifeform's pet , ~erry day at breakfast : 'when can i eat apple that tastes like apple again'
asciilifeform: see, they haven't found how to make a jonathan apple from anthracite just yet. Moar Studies Needed (tm)(r)
mircea_popescu: a need to not fucking starve was identified, and the ministry of idle pomp and spurious circumstance has issued a raft of confetty with scribblings on them in this general direction!
asciilifeform: in su there were always legends of d00d who keeps cow in city flat and feeds to it 'pravda'
asciilifeform: but usg moar 'modern', goin' 'paperless' supposedly.
asciilifeform: so won't work here.
mircea_popescu: that's not even so much the problem, rather us unlike su very dedicated to feeding moron's vanity, consequently lots of sheer cheek.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-07 18:20 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the everlulz, Cisza 21F sub 3h "Don't you know what lesbian means? fuck you" LordMPofTMSR "Lmao. I should know, I'm sure I fucked more than you."
mircea_popescu: famously, a hungarian was defined cca 1890s, as that species of moron who would rather eat soap wrapped in paper painted his coutnry's flag than french cheese in a plain wrapper.
mircea_popescu: the ustard is that species of moron who imagines anything outside his shithole doesn't, properly speaking, exist.
BingoBoingo: Blog post incoming, an Indula in one of the giant, ancient concrete human warehouses on the Rambla is engulfed in flame. Rest of the building looked ok.
BingoBoingo: 1 fire truck and 4 bombaderos on their motocicletas were on their way down the street when I finished my rubbernecking
mircea_popescu: they have fire bicycles in uy ?!
BingoBoingo: I did not see fat powered fire bikes
BingoBoingo: Smell of burning chicom plastic carried a few blocks. Have a handful of usable pictures.
BingoBoingo: The motos however did not get sirens, only the apparatus
feedbot: << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Fire In Montevideo
BingoBoingo: Apparently I beat the local news to this too
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wtf is even flammable in these.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The plastic grocery bags they hoard
BingoBoingo: also apparently this unit had plastic window trim
BingoBoingo: Also multi 10kg gas cylinders are popular for stoves
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