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(pest) dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2020-07-26 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-26#1017239 << there's ~6 years of history here ( and that's simply from asciilifeform's pov, other folx struggled longer. ) in '15, found that glibc project has been operated by wreckers, for years. and deliberately sneaks dyn. loads into 'static' builds. after some work, found cure -- to throw glibc the fuck out.

(pest) phf[asciilifeform]: g new code, and old code got shoehorned into all kinds of weird use-cases by wreckers

(pest) dulapbot: (trilema) 2016-04-12 phf: freedesktop strategy is to create an abstraction layer on top of base tools that makes things "simpler", and then transparently switch the base. in this case value of gtk & sdl to wreckers is that they both operate on wayland already. sdl seems somewhat sane but i wouldn't be surprised if gnome deprecates their X support at some point

(pest) asciilifeform: difficult to deny that emacs was 'stolen by wreckers' but also must note, 'felt slow'(tm) even before, imho

(pest) phf[asciilifeform]: emacs got hit by wreckers, like everything else. i dropped out around the time when they “deprecated cl package!11” in favor of modern™ and modular™ cl-lib. main improvement of cl-lib is that all the cl symbols are mandatory prefixed by cl-

(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: Really GuixSD and OpenBSD avoid many of the issues with modern GNU/Linux, but with Manjaro I can effectively see the wreckers fucking up everything.

(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2021-10-11 20:21:45 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-11#1061087 << trb 100% ignores all liquishit 'added' to the protocol by the nsa wreckers (gavin, hearn, et al.) and this is exactly how it oughta be. if it 'happened' after 2014, 100% pissed on.

(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-11#1061087 << trb 100% ignores all liquishit 'added' to the protocol by the nsa wreckers (gavin, hearn, et al.) and this is exactly how it oughta be. if it 'happened' after 2014, 100% pissed on.

(asciilifeform) apeloyee: suppose the wreckers interfering with you connection

(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-03#1035280 << the unfortunate thing is that, to 100% grasp that the wreckers -- are wreckers, requires to read and grasp the src. and have good model of classical bitcoin in yer head. something that most users did not and prolly will not rise to.

(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: it refers to the 'official' client post-2012ish, when project was hijacked by wreckers

(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-02-21 18:04:19 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-21#1032061 << curious how in this same cosmology some are wreckers, while others (patent trolls, etc) are doing god's work.

(asciilifeform) trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-21#1032061 << curious how in this same cosmology some are wreckers, while others (patent trolls, etc) are doing god's work.

(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: generally not difficult to predict what prb's wreckers did on a particular question. if $knob simplifies audit of network shenanigans -- can bet they'll snip it out

(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: there is a concept of 'downward pressure' that slows down and mostly prevents breakage at low level by wreckers.

(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-26#1017239 << there's ~6 years of history here ( and that's simply from asciilifeform's pov, other folx struggled longer. ) in '15, found that glibc project has been operated by wreckers, for years. and deliberately sneaks dyn. loads into 'static' builds. after some work, found cure -- to throw glibc the fuck out.

(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: certainly the 'disk space' excuse of the 'let's lose the 'obsolete' tarballs' wreckers, dun fly.

(asciilifeform) adlai: the best way of choosing distinct triples from such a set of ~consecutive~ primes, and why they have to be consecutive, is left as an exercise for the wreckers

(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: new, exciting era, of geological-time algos w/ multi-GB inputs. and no 'wreckers' to prevent this glory. how can not cheer ?

(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: '3rd dud harvest in a row' 'let's shoot more wreckers' '4th dud harvest...' 'shoot more wreckers' etc

(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: all of this heavily argues in favour of posix committee being an instrument of wreckers ( similar to common lisp committee ) , pushing ~deliberately~ for crippled 'standard' which the constituent vendors can then 'embrace & extend'

(trilema) BingoBoingo: Whatever the hell GCC wreckers were doing while they iterated their first digit up to 9 as Stallman mushroomed, there is no fucking way it can be considered improvement.

(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: shinohai: i've been reading in recent months, protocols from stalin's processes against 'wreckers'. they're quite like this, and vyshynsky was -- genius. entirely on par w/ mp. erry q contained subtle presumptions of 'buying in' to prosecution's pov, the accused was nailed no matter what said. ( the folx who got the '3rd degree' treatment -- were the 1s who refused to go on stage entirely )

(trilema) asciilifeform: ( not to mention, even when relaying actual bitcoin blocks & tx, blows gigatonnes of bandwidth on nonsense inserted by wreckers as prelude to their bigblockism scheme of '15 , e.g. bloomism )

(trilema) asciilifeform: wreckers must've wrecked the fireworks, instead of the usual decent ones, mostly puffs of smoke.

(trilema) BingoBoingo: In continued labor flaffing, drivers for Uruguay's petrol company about to stop driving petrol to Petrobras service stations, wreckers at PIT-CNT sure if they thrash enough "puestos de trabajo" can be saved and "Why do they want to leave anyways?" https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/fancap-cortara-suministro-de-combustibles-a-petrobras-20195611243

(trilema) asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: evidently enuff wreckers were left over for older, smaller things, even tho bitcoin.

(trilema) BingoBoingo: Testament to the additive destruction of the wreckers.

(trilema) asciilifeform: https://archive.is/kcoqj << meanwhile in heathen lulz : public list of (certain species of) wreckers in linux. ( author appears to have irc presence -- possibly can be persuaded to visit ? )

(trilema) mircea_popescu: the evil wreckers of the 90s were systematic in their dedication to destruction (called "democracy" and "humanism" whatevber bla bla in-universe)

(trilema) asciilifeform: ( and the thing, as detailed at length in prev threads, is groaning under the weight of actual wreckers, who poettering-'obsoleted' the working, useful plugins and replaced with ruby, etc 'kraft cheese', e.g.,

(trilema) asciilifeform: i'm not even convinced that billing's 'britain run by fags' thing were untrue. but the part where it is 'from german wreckers' is pretty rich

(trilema) a111: Logged on 2018-05-24 16:13 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-24#1818018 << i'm quite certain that they will have a show trial or two for 'putin's wreckers' who 'manipulated the price upward'

(trilema) asciilifeform: it was designed by wreckers

(trilema) asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-24#1818018 << i'm quite certain that they will have a show trial or two for 'putin's wreckers' who 'manipulated the price upward'

(trilema) a111: Logged on 2018-05-12 21:57 mod6: We need exactly that, but something that yields an actual working box. I was unaware that since apparently last year, the wreckers junked us.

(trilema) mod6: We need exactly that, but something that yields an actual working box. I was unaware that since apparently last year, the wreckers junked us.

(trilema) asciilifeform: i suspect that swapping only even exists as a possibility in current day os because of wreckers.

(trilema) mircea_popescu: well, i guess we'll have to have a terminology standard then. how about this : fsf = "a little coven of pantsuit retards defined by loyalty to rms and no further characteristics", ie fsf is about on the level of importance of "starslatecodex" ; gnu = "symbol with no concrete reference, sometimes used as g- or gnu- prefix by marketeers exacly like the string 'super-'" ; open = "group of usg wreckers working on perpetuating the

(trilema) a111: Logged on 2017-11-23 16:20 phf: re upstack, there's been a resurgence of sorts of gopher protocol, various hipsters spinning up personal websites, etc. whether the resurgence was shortlived or i'm just late to the game, but there's already a community of wreckers (one of them groups is coming from this federated twitter platform, mastodon) discussing all the various ways that they want to "improve" gopher, tls, utf-8, markdown renderer, "minimal subset of html", etc. but at the same

(trilema) a111: Logged on 2018-01-22 14:19 asciilifeform: and also i think at this point i will declare gpl-gnat to be a work of wreckers. it has zero upsides over adacore's, and a million breakages , large and small.

(trilema) asciilifeform: and also i think at this point i will declare gpl-gnat to be a work of wreckers. it has zero upsides over adacore's, and a million breakages , large and small.

(trilema) apeloyee: then why "it gets nuked by No_Implicit_Conditionals."? wreckers (tm)?

(trilema) mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1770914 << classic or not classic, the wreckers set it so the bot no longer archives it. orig : https://archive.is/https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/transcriptions/EWD10xx/EWD1036.html

(trilema) asciilifeform: presently i suspect that gpl-gnat has succumbed to the work of wreckers. ~100% of the barfology to date, has been from gpl-gnat users with astonishingly variously rotted carcasses in place of a working compiler

(trilema) BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Likely by recognizing the damaging effect of wreckers and the despicable kind of theif. Pic unrelated, features the honorable kind of thief http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/P1000070-1-768x576.jpg

(trilema) trinque: could point to platform limitations, or wreckers in particular ada version, or...

(trilema) asciilifeform: of course W_ZeroP only works the way it does because compilers are sad , in turn because people were idiots in 1970s and did not shoot the wreckers who so much as suggested to call a thing without overlow and zero flags, a cpu

(trilema) asciilifeform: meanwhile, trotskyite and buharinite wreckers on trial, https://archive.is/Hc6QT >> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/kPHNg/?raw=true >> 'A former U.S. National Security Agency employee pleaded guilty on Friday to illegally taking classified information outside the spy agency that an intelligence official said was later stolen from his home computer by Russian hackers' etc

(trilema) mircea_popescu: in that if you don't have one, you have the wreckers'.

(trilema) a111: Logged on 2017-11-23 16:20 phf: re upstack, there's been a resurgence of sorts of gopher protocol, various hipsters spinning up personal websites, etc. whether the resurgence was shortlived or i'm just late to the game, but there's already a community of wreckers (one of them groups is coming from this federated twitter platform, mastodon) discussing all the various ways that they want to "improve" gopher, tls, utf-8, markdown renderer, "minimal subset of html", etc. but at the same

(trilema) phf: re upstack, there's been a resurgence of sorts of gopher protocol, various hipsters spinning up personal websites, etc. whether the resurgence was shortlived or i'm just late to the game, but there's already a community of wreckers (one of them groups is coming from this federated twitter platform, mastodon) discussing all the various ways that they want to "improve" gopher, tls, utf-8, markdown renderer, "minimal subset of html", etc. but at the same

(trilema) asciilifeform: and gotta luvv folx who see 'hefty bit of bytes, but dust' and then ask for proofier proof when presented with 'miners are wreckers'

(trilema) asciilifeform: consider how much more feasible a Troo Dictionary would be, on a hypertexttron that wasn't built by newjersey wreckers, with the idiot unidirectional links, each of which results in loading whole new file, and cannot meaningfully point to a section thereof, and the retarded anchors , and could go on for a week

(trilema) asciilifeform: why wreckers wreck ?

(trilema) asciilifeform: the wreckers DELIBERATELY, unabashedly wrecked bignum performance for all time on their idiot shitiron

(trilema) a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 16:41 apeloyee: risc-v wreckers specified no carry flag, for instance

(trilema) apeloyee: risc-v wreckers specified no carry flag, for instance

(trilema) a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 15:03 asciilifeform: gcc offers a built-in rotate 'illicitly', but not a portable access to carry flag. because ALSO run by wreckers.

(trilema) asciilifeform: gcc offers a built-in rotate 'illicitly', but not a portable access to carry flag. because ALSO run by wreckers.

(trilema) a111: Logged on 2017-11-15 20:54 asciilifeform: but rather confiscation of the whole shebang from the wreckers.

(trilema) asciilifeform: but rather confiscation of the whole shebang from the wreckers.

(trilema) asciilifeform: plain and simple wreckers, with no asterisks.

(trilema) phf: "shinmera" is part of the new school of common lispers who put out reams of code that's basically ffi to c world. nothing wrong with it per se, but from traditional lisp perspective they are prime wreckers

(trilema) asciilifeform: gcc5 was made by wreckers.

(trilema) mircea_popescu: self-declared "alternatives to x" because "x was wrecked" are much more likely to be the self-same wreckers than some third party.

(trilema) mircea_popescu: the t1 wreckers may yell all they want this "is not right". but in bitcoin longest chain prevails, and so the story ends

(trilema) mircea_popescu: let's drop the math for a moment and delve. at time t0, bitcoin works. at time t1, some wreckers under "public pressure" as discussed well in http://trilema.com/2013/digging-through-archives-yields-gold/ attempt to attack this bitcoin that works, by producing an alt-bitcoin, that does not work. the specific way in which the alt-bitcoin thatr does not work "works" is by deeding (exactly like deedbot) some strings into the bitc

(trilema) asciilifeform: infuriating rubbish, made by wreckers.

(trilema) phf: i went reading slime/swank pull request conversations on github (i know my mistake!) and it's all the usual wreckers there.

(trilema) phf: so this possibly invalidates my original thesis of "wreckers in sbcl!11" i just haven't spent as much time there as i have under other implementations

(trilema) asciilifeform: it is no accident that the gcc wreckers are now removing support for it

(trilema) deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/05/lazy-wreckers-actually-dare-to-name-their-thing-etherdoge/ << Qntra - Lazy Wreckers Actually Dare To Name Their Thing "EtherDoge"

(trilema) asciilifeform: ( though , unlike locklin, i will not rule out wreckers as the explanation )

(trilema) asciilifeform: ^ lulzily, phuctor was wedged may 5 - may 10 on account of having been rebooted by unknown wreckers such that it left the werker lock file on.

(trilema) asciilifeform: i'm half-convinced that just about all commonplace linux fonts were specially made by wreckers in '90s.

(trilema) asciilifeform: why -- ask the wreckers, not me.

(trilema) asciilifeform: because the CORRECT answer is a sane db that isn't written by motherfucking wreckers

(trilema) trinque: "are you secret wreckers" ?

(trilema) asciilifeform: but in re: 'timing issue', we had a thread where i brought up 'two(+) d00dz form a cycle, who do we negrate' and specifically stated that deedbot-for-vpatches is necessary, and that any two+ folx who insist on issuing patches into same blocktime, and end up being part of a loop, are ~both~ idiots/wreckers

(trilema) phf: ben_vulpes: like clockwork. i will do the tmsr thing and claim that wreckers are blackholing teh server

(trilema) phf: obviously can't do this in a company with HR, wreckers, etc.

(trilema) a111: Logged on 2016-04-12 23:01 phf: freedesktop strategy is to create an abstraction layer on top of base tools that makes things "simpler", and then transparently switch the base. in this case value of gtk & sdl to wreckers is that they both operate on wayland already. sdl seems somewhat sane but i wouldn't be surprised if gnome deprecates their X support at some point

(trilema) phf: in the end wreckers ended up being much more effective against rms than esr's oss

(trilema) phf: freedesktop strategy is to create an abstraction layer on top of base tools that makes things "simpler", and then transparently switch the base. in this case value of gtk & sdl to wreckers is that they both operate on wayland already. sdl seems somewhat sane but i wouldn't be surprised if gnome deprecates their X support at some point

(trilema) phf: gpgme in homebrew goes out of its way to build with gpg2 with that same mantra that tech wreckers use everywhere, it's deprecated. don't question it, morty, it's deprecated. the community deprecated it. yep.

(trilema) phf: ftr i've worked with female programmers, on average not better or worse then males, who would've thought. i've also briefly worked with "women in javascript" and they are predominantly wreckers

(trilema) phf: of course fact that emacs supports dbus but not a generic ffi goes back to thread about rms and wreckers

(trilema) mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-12-2015#1356966 << alf has a theory that all these low effort "law breaking" things exist as usg-run operations to find and document wreckers.

(trilema) mircea_popescu: "nobody wanted the visual of website failing while the President is learning to code BECAUSE what it might conceivably be seen to mean [by racists and wreckers] is that perhaps random bureaucrat should drop his droning and help put out the fire ? INCONCEIVABLE. he'll document the fire! on paper!"

(trilema) pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303764 << i bet that cisco box contains shrunken heads of usg wreckers

(trilema) asciilifeform: shitgnome wreckers on one hand, 'but my legacy crud broke!!1111111' on the other

(trilema) asciilifeform: sometimes i wonder if 'freedos' is actually run by wreckers

(trilema) asciilifeform: ben_vulpes knows full well that it'll be blamed on 'wreckers'

(trilema) shinohai: 13-06-2015 00:30:49 <asciilifeform> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-06-2015#1162846 << gotta love usg. always 'chinese wreckers stole,' never 'microshit turdows spilled' (agrees)

(trilema) asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-06-2015#1162846 << gotta love usg. always 'chinese wreckers stole,' never 'microshit turdows spilled'

(trilema) ben_vulpes: buenos dias, wreckers

(trilema) jurov: there were millions of 'evil wreckers' in ussr?

(trilema) asciilifeform: lol, nobody kills 'own people.' you kill 'evil wreckers', dontcha know!

(trilema) asciilifeform: iran authoritarian << poor country, and, afaik, run by populistic idiots generously helped by foreign wreckers from half the globe

(trilema) asciilifeform: ^ 'wreckery', 'by way of the wreckers'

(trilema) decimation: hehe yeah exactly. And the wreckers (kulaks, rednecks, red-staters, etc) are all the same 'round the world

(trilema) asciilifeform: decimation: wreckers << brought up because of brits blaming russian agents for 'discounting our wonderful renewable energy potential'

(trilema) decimation: re: wreckers - sounds like a good description of the environmental lobby to me. bring back RSFSR penal code article 58

(trilema) benkay: wreckers?

(trilema) asciilifeform: 'Perhaps the Russians are worried about our huge wind and solar potential, and have infiltrated the UK Government.' << lol. wreckers.

(trilema) asciilifeform: re: 'wreckers' - correct. since the entire raison d'etre of the u.s. security apparatus is now 'terrorism' - well, the fireman, absent a fire, buys a box of matches.

(trilema) asciilifeform: nah, they'll just say 'wreckers' (or some suitably anglicised equivalent) and be done with it.