deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/12/10/why-cme-and-cboe-bitcoin-futures-arent-important-and-dont-matter/ << Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Why CME and CBOE bitcoin futures arent important and dont matter.
RagnarDanneskjol: nice one Pete
RagnarDanneskjol: mircea_popescu I have a couple of translators sorting out their IRCs today and should be present within the next 24 hrs or so. I've only done some basic screening - they are all native Chinese, speak English well enough and are available to do translation work. Besides speaking to them, I have NOT gone through any further process of elimination - ie. collected writing samples to have compared, etc.
RagnarDanneskjol: Don't know if you already have anyone in place for comparing/assessing outputs.. In the past I've used colleagues in Beijing to help screen candidate writing samples (cause I don't read or speak Ornamental). I'm happy to have someone do the same if it helps. Otherwise, will just let you take over from here.
BingoBoingo: <deedbot> http://trilema.com/2017/of-ducks-and-lameness/ << Trilema - Of ducks and lameness << Awe, mircea_popescu tries BingoBoingo style exploration
BingoBoingo: Mega pictures incoming
shinohai: Buenas Dias Sr. BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: Buen dia shinohai
BingoBoingo: Que tal?
BingoBoingo: So, on Sundays Montevideo does get very sleepy. Except for the ferias!
shinohai: Glad Bb is adjusting to his new climes.
shinohai: Please to check out http://divas.com.uy/es/sex-clubs.html and let me know if worth visiting.
BingoBoingo: In time. I am still map building my local environment and extending it out of Pocitos and Buceo. These boots were made for walking.
asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform found the seekrit of realtek nic init
asciilifeform: !#s realtek
a111: 41 results for "realtek", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=realtek
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2017/12/11/el-primero-domingo-en-montevideo-for-the-midwestern-rube/ << Bingo Blog - El Primero Domingo En Montevideo For The Midwestern Rube
BingoBoingo: So, as I intensify the abogado search, are there any lord who would like to take on the responsibility of handling TBI responsibilities should something "nailgun" happen to El Gringo Bingo? mircea_popescu? shinohai? ben_vulpes? Anyone else in L1?
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol cool.
shinohai: BingoBoingo: TBI ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what's tbi ?
shinohai: [desire to know intensifies]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform o wow!
mircea_popescu: dude, the more you get oppressed, the more you get productive. ima hire pro dommes to come to your house and insult your manhood.
mircea_popescu: circle the block in those silly slut jeeps, cropped tops and loudspeakers.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo what's tbi ? << The working name of The Boingo ISP
mircea_popescu: aaand in other "curse of the ukr chick" news, temp here dropped to a very cool 15 over the past coupla days. HOW DO YOU LIKE MY MILD NAO, BEOTCH!
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you have this newfound penchant for vagueness. NOT "is there anyone willing to be involved in transactions" but YES "can anyone lend me five bux".
mircea_popescu: NOT "did you ever consider venera's wings could take a turn most material" but YES "wanna come back to my place ?"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: If USG.blue were to off me, is there anyone who would want to take over or wind down the venture, or is this not the time to discuss continuity?
mircea_popescu: nobody's fucking offing you.
mircea_popescu: even cheap bullets are like 50 cents each. http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-29#1473356 is like $15 a pop.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-29 20:10 mircea_popescu: still, stuff like the raufoss mk211 is the exact pill for "oh, we're armored". orly ? well done, so the round won't blow clear through you! enjoy zirconium fire in your spleen!
BingoBoingo: I suspected as much when I made it to Montevideo instead of Guantanamo.
shinohai: Careful BingoBoingo it may be a carefully crafted 3-D simulation.
BingoBoingo: I don't think USG can simulate the smell of cannabis smoke, however the Brazilians here for the "expo cannabis" are departing either for home or Punta del Este
BingoBoingo: In other news, the Brazilians at the hostel are easily impressed. One of the guys staying there was local actor with an IMDB profile, but el gringo had the ability to enjoy the cool night air shirtless.
mircea_popescu: not like making an imdb profile takes more than ten minutes.
asciilifeform: wasn't ben_vulpes's chix a 'imdb-profiled' notable ?
BingoBoingo: Eh, there were some film credits there. The German girl was impressed by the credits, but did not look as good as the Brazilain girls. Maybe if the German girl was from 10-20 years ago she could compete against the locals and the Brazillians? Today, no.
mircea_popescu: on the strength of http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ all rthose chicks are imdb-notable.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749334 << found, to be clear, archaeologically, from the rdos thing, rather han from clever reversing
a111: Logged on 2017-12-11 13:29 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform o wow!
asciilifeform: *than from
asciilifeform: so nao canhaz e.g. 'packet processor in asm on pcengines' and similar items from old threads.
asciilifeform: ( pcengines apu1 is ~the~ x86 fiddling platform as it has the magic sage port )
BingoBoingo: Also anyone want to come to Montevideo and hang out, drop off some servers? Apparently you have until March before the weather turns London-esque.
asciilifeform: in other noose, turned up that the pilot opterons in asciilifeform's torture room have a disappointing onboard raid that supports only sata2 (3Gb/s). upgrading'em with sata3 raidtrons (6Gb/s)
mats: you have to pay to get on imdb anyways
mats: asciilifeform: what sata3 raid card are you using?
asciilifeform: mats: 3ware . ( afaik nobody else has ever made an iron raid that worked half a shit's worth )
mats: has anyone documented it?
asciilifeform: mats: more specifically ?
mats: the 3ware sata3 card
asciilifeform: document means what ? i've been using'em in gentoo boxes for decade+, fwiw.
asciilifeform: or is mats asking whether anyone's reversed the thing down to transistor ? or wat
asciilifeform: afaik not it, and not any other disk controller either
asciilifeform: or for that matter disk
asciilifeform: or southbridge. or or or.
mats: ok ok
asciilifeform: nobody's properly reversed damn near anything
asciilifeform: ( not, at any rate, publicly . )
mats: do you have a gentoo recipe for apu1?
asciilifeform: mats: not specifically. it's a standard opteron, with the exception of no vga. ( use serial console. )
asciilifeform: and given as it uses linuxbios (coreboot) exclusively ( there was in fact no turdware bios afaik ever released for'em at all ) it makes it inviting to stuff the kernel into rom
asciilifeform: but it isn't mandatory.
asciilifeform: unless yer kernel is monstrously fat ( and why would it be ) -- it'll sit down in the rom.
mats: any reading materials on how i can do that?
asciilifeform: do which
mats: stuffing kernel into rom
asciilifeform: there is ( or was ? ) a tarball on the vendor's www.
asciilifeform: oh hah it's gone innit.
asciilifeform: i'ma have to clean up and genesis mine. pretty heavy chore, it is full of extraneous matter.
asciilifeform: if yer getting an apu1, mats , go straight for the apu1d4 .
asciilifeform: and ideally get several, they are getting scarce.
mats: i have two on my desk, been toying with centos on it
asciilifeform: http://pcengines.ch/howto.htm#coreboot << found it.
asciilifeform: mats: didja solder in the sage header ?
mats: its on the to-do list
mats: i have two gizmo1 kits also
asciilifeform: those are usable out-of-the-box
asciilifeform: ( you gotta cure the probes, naturally, with sage_pill . but no soldering needed )
mats: lots going on for mats, i'm trying to make my way to .tw within a year, then hk. futzing with student visa right now
shinohai: neat mats :)\
BingoBoingo: mats: Do you know where you DON'T need a visa?
mats: BingoBoingo: .uy ?
danielpbarron: !!withdraw 0.5 19d9wv2iKiMZMDkFMbeLg1SwC7nQNoxnHd
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Gm25F/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: mats: Si
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 16300.0, vol: 16236.10809696 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 16317.0, vol: 82186.68268852 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 16500.0, vol: 4624.69923118 | Volume-weighted last average: 16322.5344009
BingoBoingo: And the crashing resumes
asciilifeform: in related lulz, https://archive.is/B8lQp << >> http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-08#1193376
a111: Logged on 2015-07-08 17:08 mircea_popescu: mod6 "our free market is this thing you can only buy!!1"
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Ack, good luck and best wishes
BingoBoingo: In other annecdotes people The most popular 1st guess of my nationalty by the locals is Brazilian which is followed by English.
BingoBoingo: Usually I have to volunteer Soy de estados unidos. Most locals appear to be unfamiliar with the term estadounidense
BingoBoingo: But recognize estados unidos
shinohai: Throw in a few hue's and br's to confuse them.
phf: BingoBoingo: you just need to wear one of those texan cowboy hats
BingoBoingo: Brazilian seems to be their default guess for foreigners that aren't obviously Argentine
BingoBoingo: phf: They may confuse it with a panama hat. For a nominally latin country I am somehow more tan on the exposed areas of my skin than many of the local adult males.
phf: same with me, like most slavs, after about a week of sun, i bronze
BingoBoingo: I redden and then it shifts to brown
BingoBoingo: The local men range from ghastly pale to light brown with some outliers at the african end of the spectrum. The local women range from olive or slightly tanned to medium roast coffee with fairly even gradient distribution so far observed.
BingoBoingo: The closest site to US urbania so far were some terrified dominican tourists and their scared ~10 year old child decked out in "thug chainz"
BingoBoingo: For other gringos contemplating travel to Montevideo, so far in my experience voseo has not been a big deal. However my ears are still adjusting to yeshimo.
lobbes: Mientras tanto en Nueva York: https://archive.is/w0qpH
lobbes: And in archive news, Archivierungsprozess chugs on, albiet slowly. roughly 30k historical urls zipped so far. In addition, everything posted in chan since nov 8 has also been zipped
trinque: pretty cool lobbes
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749425 << I have always been envious of "normal" skin like this. I'm a ginger, so my skin has only two states: ultra-white and "lobster"
a111: Logged on 2017-12-11 17:03 BingoBoingo: I redden and then it shifts to brown
lobbes when 18, visited DR with Dominican co-workers at the time. Forgot to reapply sunscreen after entering ocean one afternoon. Skin was peeling and oozing for ~2 weeks afterwards
BingoBoingo: Mine rarely gets that bad, worst case it stays red longer before brownshift. Except for the solar concentrator that appears to be my nose. That can blister.
lobbes: Oya. Nose and ear-tips. For some reason my forearms can take more solar abuse. Closest thing to 'tan' I can achieve is on arms
BingoBoingo: Lol, yeah. The shirt covered area is still pale, but it did not detract from how impressed the Brazilian girls of were with my magic gringo power of tolerating ~15 C temperatures on the bare skin
shinohai: "Discovered" http://archive.is/oflnp
asciilifeform: shinohai: see also http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-11#1654582
a111: Logged on 2017-05-11 17:35 asciilifeform: meanwhile, https://archive.is/83lMS >> HP winblowz boxen, turns out, ship with keylogger in sound card driver.
asciilifeform: not that 1 more, or 1 less trojan is particularly meaningful on a microshit box
asciilifeform: ( see also http://btcbase.org/log/2015-08-15#1238626 and elsewhere. subj beaten entirely to death. )
a111: Logged on 2015-08-15 15:31 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-08-2015#1238595 << when boiling the proverbial frog, when it gets cooked enough you can just turn up the heat to whatever. srsly, they included a keylogger and admitted to it. why should they not also rape you in every other possible hole, and drill new ones as desired ?
shinohai: The tireless potcoin advocate, perhaps the US' only hope to avoid total nuclear annihilation http://archive.is/jKcNb
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749365 << ya but it's like twennybux
a111: Logged on 2017-12-11 15:17 mats: you have to pay to get on imdb anyways
BingoBoingo: That's like 2 something awfuls!!!
mircea_popescu: lol. about what it's worth too
mats: the page blurb i read about ‘imdb pro’ suggested 150/yr
mats: not bad i guess
mircea_popescu: a miliwife.
mircea_popescu: you know, like milimorts. except in terms of pointless expenditure.
asciilifeform: 'that battleship! 500GWives'
BingoBoingo: In other news, the locals in my immediate meatspace are lagging on lists of sane abogados. However, contact with local accounting firms is yeilding replies.
mircea_popescu: cut through the gringo fleecing zone, and the quicker the better.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749400 << are they of the people who actually give a shit ?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-11 15:42 mats: lots going on for mats, i'm trying to make my way to .tw within a year, then hk. futzing with student visa right now
BingoBoingo: Meeting up with some venezualan girls tonight who also do the small business thing.
BingoBoingo: Also for spanish lessons from my fellow economic refugees.
BingoBoingo: Hopefully the end of the "expo cannabis" means more interesting travelers begin passing through the hostel.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749414 << in related lulz, CBOE scores just around bitcointalk-level "entreprise", entirely unmatcing mpex historical performance.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-11 16:04 asciilifeform: in related lulz, https://archive.is/B8lQp << >> http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-08#1193376
mircea_popescu: not that they perceive their obligation to actually come here on hands and knees after this utter failure to mean or matter.
mircea_popescu: anyway, prong two of that poisoned caltrop, where "but wait, futures AGAINST WHAT PRICE SIGNAL" hasn't even landed yet.
mircea_popescu: i bet 100% of those involved with promoting the idiocy are lawyers, because watch out when the suing starts.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749421 << then they'll think he's jackychanense
a111: Logged on 2017-12-11 17:00 phf: BingoBoingo: you just need to wear one of those texan cowboy hats
BingoBoingo ended up getting a local style maybeleather/maybevinyl hat
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as far as i can see , linked turd is entirely 'hey let's try and make paper-btc the way we did paper-au' usg gambit
BingoBoingo will probably end up slicing it up for flame testing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform evidently.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: surely you can tell leather from vinyl with naked eye / finger
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo dumbass hat went away from me today. so i ran after it and fucking stomped it. bitch.
mircea_popescu: i guess ima be buying a new hat.
asciilifeform: today we learn mircea_popescu does not wear a chapeau claque!111
mircea_popescu: i do not wear mechanisms on my head.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: One would think, superficial observation suggests thing leather, but the price anywhere else in the world suggest vinyl
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: asciilifeform came back from ro with some astonishingly decent fur hats.
asciilifeform: ( from what animal ? who can say. but -- natural product. )
mircea_popescu: why astonishing ? they do furs well.
asciilifeform: astonishing price.
mircea_popescu: ah. nah, fair.
mircea_popescu: furs are only expensive if the pantsuits are trying to sell their polyester.
asciilifeform: let's say, 2-3x cheaper than similar item in usa, supposing one knew where in usa one could even find it.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, ffa series has been very, very, well... loaded? ( 'read' is not the word, i have nfi if anybody other than apeloyee read it )
asciilifeform: incidentally folx: each of you who considers himself 'graduate' of an ffa chapter, consider signing
mircea_popescu: what's to read, it's just code, right ?
BingoBoingo slowly working on read, but each read is likely to take ~100 loads
asciilifeform: read, nitpick aggressively, build and run
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo don't do that, you have shit to do.
asciilifeform: do the exercises ( where i marked 'if you do not fully get this, get out a notebook and pencil ' etc 0
asciilifeform is addressing this mainly to folx who ~already~ took the time.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Slowly in this context means read title, skim, and scribble reminder that post exists in next year's calendar
BingoBoingo: reading mostly limited atm to logs, Trilema proper, informaccion de Uruguay, y mas material en Espanol.
mats: oh yeah, small island nation
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749431 << this live anywhere, or not jetzt ?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-11 17:34 lobbes: And in archive news, Archivierungsprozess chugs on, albiet slowly. roughly 30k historical urls zipped so far. In addition, everything posted in chan since nov 8 has also been zipped
BingoBoingo: <mats> oh yeah, small island nation << Also azn, so they care about trivia. Latinos however only care about pretense of the trivia and stand down when ignored.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749435 << this is because you have no souls!
a111: Logged on 2017-12-11 17:58 lobbes when 18, visited DR with Dominican co-workers at the time. Forgot to reapply sunscreen after entering ocean one afternoon. Skin was peeling and oozing for ~2 weeks afterwards
diana_coman: asciilifeform, fwiw I read it as in went through it line by line and with pencil and paper; ran it too at the end, played a bit around with tests and that; and since we are at this, nitpick: in FZ_Swap why T:=X if already initialised at declaration or what am I missing of Ada in there?
asciilifeform: oh hey diana_coman
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lulz of all time, a while back : cop pulls over, asks driver if she knows what the speed limit is. before she can answer i ask him if he knows the way to so and so, which he proceeds to explain. we... leave.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: you're quite right!!
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the useless line will be thrown out, and diana_coman will be credited in the next mailbag.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I have given so many people directions over the weekend. Primarily... Delivery drivers.
asciilifeform: eagle eye.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this is why it's mighty great when folx actually read
BingoBoingo: Typically moto with rubbermaid storage container strapped to the back pulls up, hails me from a clearly not thief distance and requests directions.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749438 << dis guy.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-11 18:07 BingoBoingo: Lol, yeah. The shirt covered area is still pale, but it did not detract from how impressed the Brazilian girls of were with my magic gringo power of tolerating ~15 C temperatures on the bare skin
mircea_popescu: next time, tell 'em a girl can't be cold if her concha's functioning properly.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, glad to help, even this tiny bit
mircea_popescu: taking a line out is the largest non-tiny bit ; after taking two lines out.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: a useless line cut out, is not a small bit, it is a serious contribution .
mircea_popescu: TOOLATE :D
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has it.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'll have to try that the next windy night
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in trilemalottery, http://trilema.com/2014/the-complexity-of-life-a-triad/#comment-123868
mircea_popescu: trilema articles. ARE ETERNAL.
asciilifeform: sorta the point of writing, neh
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749440 << saw a civillian windows machine earlier today, it was a show! two different antiviri, firefox took ~5 minutes to load a page, went dark 5 times in the interval, it was something else.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-11 18:11 asciilifeform: shinohai: see also http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-11#1654582
asciilifeform: sounds typical
asciilifeform: betcha every keypress sprouts packets, too
mircea_popescu: oh in other lulz : so the whole "$metoo" charade finally came to conclusion, now that us needs un to mediate korea suddenly usg.blue main gal at un is derping about how "$metoo was all about trying to get trump" ?
asciilifeform: !#s metoo
a111: 14 results for "metoo", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=metoo
mircea_popescu: you know, usg politruks trying to abuse the legal system to harass males for no reason.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he has a point, FZ_Neg is nonsense.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: definitely point. it's getting renamed in next ch.
mircea_popescu: v fucking rocks dunnit.
asciilifeform: ffa series is as much a course in vtronics, as in arithmetics.
asciilifeform: ( i deliberately made no effort to help vless savages , this time, with ready-made tarballs or the like )
asciilifeform: relatedly, https://archive.is/Wnavt << heathen comments preserved in amber.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749504 << not yet. My current idea is to post a plaintext list of all zipped urls on my www. People can curl/grep what they are interested in and submit either a list of urls or a single url to lobbesbot via !Qarchive and then be sent a download link.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-11 19:59 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749431 << this live anywhere, or not jetzt ?
lobbes: I'll add the aggregate 'filesize' of the zips requested to their 'tab' and work out payment later on down the line. Probably will be the '1 satoshi per Mb' rate to be called once past a certain threshold
mircea_popescu: lobbes ideally should have it queriable. like say !Qhas https://soandso
mircea_popescu: oh, speaking of which!
lobbes: I can make that happen
mircea_popescu: !QAuction 1 168 The very notebook displayed in http://trilema.com/2017/of-ducks-and-lameness/ ! Free shipping anywhere in the world included.
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 163 STARTED by mircea_popescu: The very notebook displayed in http://trilema.com/2017/of-ducks-and-lameness/ ! Free shipping anywhere in the world included. Opening: 1 coppers Ending: 2017-12-18 20:43:32 UTC (168 hours)
mircea_popescu: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 17123.07, vol: 18431.67105555 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 17126.0, vol: 86326.20598473 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 17300.0, vol: 4923.59607879 | Volume-weighted last average: 17133.3184732
mircea_popescu: so if it's fiddy bux to ship, and 1e9 ECu to the Bitcoin, it then follows anything under 3mn is actually a loss.
mircea_popescu is curious
lobbes: !Qbid 163 1
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 163: The very notebook displayed in http://trilema.com/2017/of-ducks-and-lameness/ ! Free shipping anywhere in the world included. Heard: 1 from lobbes Ending: 2017-12-18 20:43:32 UTC (167 hours 57 mins)
mircea_popescu: lobbes o wait, it's going to do hourly announcements here too because called here ?
lobbes: Lol. Still some kinks to work out for it to work in #trilema it seems
lobbes: Op maybe not
mircea_popescu: hm ?
lobbes: Or actually. I'ma have to check. It may be limited to only announce in #eulora still
lobbes Will review teh code again tonight.
mircea_popescu: that's how it should be.
mircea_popescu: ppl want to follow its auction list can just join there.
lobbes: Yup. #eulora only
mircea_popescu: this is a pretty great set-up!
mircea_popescu: i can sell my art!!!1
shinohai: Now take same notebook, have slave girl wipe ass on single sheet. Put up for auction on reddit or a chan. Pretty sure some degenerate will pay $100+ for a waifu notebook with poop in it.
mircea_popescu: my girls tend to be as described in http://trilema.com/2017/tute/ ; very opposite of waifu.
diana_coman: ugh, that cover
mircea_popescu: diana_coman now imagine me with the beard buyinbg it
diana_coman: funnier still walking around with it; fwiw the text reads though as if it actually starts somewhere in the 4th paragraph
mircea_popescu: well yes, 3rd page
mircea_popescu: aaanyway, so i'm standing here on balcony perched up on this hillside while the winds gust all around bending the palms almost to the ground. the sky is mostly clear, with beautiful cloud coloring work.
mircea_popescu: TIME TO CACKLE MENACINGLY AT THE FREE WORLD!!111
asciilifeform did picture mircea_popescu as having a dedicated 'muhahahahaha' balcony
mircea_popescu: (the wind power plant still unmoved. they missed out on like 30% of all the power they're ever gonna generate this year, because of this lulz. i do not believe it's a genuine technological item anymore.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: was it one of those affairs where the windmills swivel ?
asciilifeform: they won't swivel ( or eventually, for that matter , turn ) if not lubricated. and mircea_popescu did find that monkeystani folx dun believe in maintenance..
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to round out the mental image, smoked salmon, grana padano, pepper slices and pinot grigio (delle venezie, igt) spritzed with san pelegrino and ice.
danielpbarron: !QAuction 10000000 72 First Generation FUCKGOATS Hardware Random Number Generator Unit #50 plus free S.NSA t-shirt -- free international shipping
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 164 STARTED by danielpbarron: First Generation FUCKGOATS Hardware Random Number Generator Unit #50 plus free S.NSA t-shirt -- free international shipping Opening: 10000000 coppers Ending: 2017-12-14 21:14:15 UTC (72 hours)
danielpbarron: let's see what's more popular: ebay or lobbesbot :D
mircea_popescu: o damn, have i forgot to mention the slave-made bread ?
mircea_popescu: i guess i did, at that. poor slavegirls, how they slave, literally, over a hot stove only to be taken for granted.
mircea_popescu: down with teh patriarchy.
mircea_popescu: who was the guy who wanted one ?
mircea_popescu: !~later tell izabera http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749592
a111: Logged on 2017-12-11 21:14 danielpbarron: !QAuction 10000000 72 First Generation FUCKGOATS Hardware Random Number Generator Unit #50 plus free S.NSA t-shirt -- free international shipping
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron rather, lets see what happens first, 3 days pass or 10mn ECu become worth more than a car.
trinque: this is pretty damned cool lobbes.
danielpbarron: and while we're on the topic, i also have a non-auction listing on ebay where people can buy multiple or make me an offer
shinohai: I like the door facades in that house mircea_popescu ... what does kitchen look like/consist of ?
mircea_popescu: trinque word! /me is like actually looking around the house for more shit to sell!
mircea_popescu: shinohai us style fridge, electric stove, a double sink and countertops. or how do you mean ?
shinohai: I was hoping perhaps it contained massive, old-world kitchen.
danielpbarron: !Qbid 163 1mn
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 163: The very notebook displayed in http://trilema.com/2017/of-ducks-and-lameness/ ! Free shipping anywhere in the world included. Heard: 1mn from danielpbarron overbidding lobbes Ending: 2017-12-18 20:43:32 UTC (167 hours 22 mins)
trinque: !!v 9D0F6680D2E67509050EE11D105CFC0C77CE89F7DBE1E411023A543E627F1BCA
deedbot: trinque rated lobbes 2
lobbes bows at trinque
lobbes: For people in #t who may not be aware. (The fees only apply to those who start an auction. Bids are always phree): http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-09-11.log.html#t01:43:33
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-09-11 01:43:33: <lobbes> New fees are now as follows: 2000 ECu per hour for auctions ending with a sale, 10000 ECu per/hr for auctions ending in no sale
lobbes: Collected every quarter. Can be paid via eulora or deedbot
mircea_popescu: shinohai nah. BUT! i did encounter a massive old world item, which i will presently show. though other thinjhs in queue. so after that.
mircea_popescu: lobbes you might want to reconsider thouse ; iirc they were pegged back when btc was 1k or so.
lobbes: Alternatively, there's always the traditional % off of sale. But iirc the fees were introduced to curb spamming in channel of 'derp' auctions
lobbes: Which flat per hour makes moar sense
lobbes: I got some noodling to do it seemz
mircea_popescu: what's this come too, lessee
mircea_popescu: !~calc 17133.3184732 * 168 * 1e5 / 1e9
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 17133.3184732 * 168 * 1e5 / 1e9 = 287.83975034976004
mircea_popescu: so it's gonna cost me... 300 bucks if this auction ends up unbidden ?
lobbes: Yeahh... hm
mircea_popescu: seems like... two degrees of magnitude off. unless i'm fucking the math up.
mircea_popescu: which i think it must be because it was never this expensive.
lobbes: Ah, wait. Shouldn't it be: 17133.3184732 * 168 * 1e4 / 1e9 ?
mircea_popescu: yes, it should.
mircea_popescu: and yet... it STILL seems two degrees of magnitude off.
mircea_popescu: the principal consideration here being that if you charge more than maybe a quarter or so, you're basically paying for someone to make a competitor.
mircea_popescu: which is imo kinda wasteful at this stage.
danielpbarron: heh, my early adopter privilege blinded me to this
lobbes: Makes sense. Yeah, should prolly only cost you roughly 3 bux if no sale using sane fees
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i know, right ?
mircea_popescu: lobbes also bear in mind teh http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746620
mircea_popescu: tis wise to undershoot early and keep the loot for later.
lobbes: Ok, I can see this reasoning. I'm thinking I'll reduce fees to: 100 ecu per hour no sale, 20 per hour if sale
mircea_popescu: that moment when there's three different singlet earrings on your coffee table and you can't find your spare camera battery among them
lobbes: Ftr, these reduced fees will be applied retroactively for all Q4 billz. For next year, I'm thinking I may switch to the "only pay once you hit certain hour threshold" model.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> incidentally folx: each of you who considers himself 'graduate' of an ffa chapter, consider signing << fwiw, I have held back signing on ch1 since I can not still build it out of the box, successfully.
mircea_popescu: lobbes remind me to give you a chetty stick next we meet ; for greater glory.
mircea_popescu: not even sure what they;'re worth by now, but prolly a benji or so.
mircea_popescu: mod6 what croaks ?
mod6: There was some commenting out of the Restrictions that I needed to do. If/when I get a successful environment to build it, then will sign.
trinque: would probably be useful to say which restrictions.
trinque: could point to platform limitations, or wreckers in particular ada version, or...
mod6: this was supposidly because im running 2015 adacore. which i can buy. but have had even less success with Adacore 2016 and 2017. not to say that I won't get the incantaiton correct at somepoint, but for now, I can't build it successfully.
mod6: <+trinque> would probably be useful to say which restrictions. << it's in the logs.
trinque: ah k
danielpbarron: lobbes, i think i still owe you from a previous quarter and you should price that based on whatever it was back then
mod6: I only mention this again simply because this is the 2nd time I've seen alf ask for sigs.
mod6: And I'm taking the time to explain why I have not.
lobbes: danielpbarron, sounds like a plan. Lemme know if you wanna settle via eulora vs deedbot. Either way I'm in the mines atm, I can settle stuff tonight though
lobbes: mircea_popescu, deal!
danielpbarron: whichever you want. i'm available in eulora right now
danielpbarron: oh in the mines doesn't mean in game lol
mircea_popescu: this discussion spurred me to realise that eg my 4k pile of high-quality coarse cordage is thereby worth like... 50mn ECu or so, nominally ? leaving how it would prolly sell for more than 100% (duh), that's likle... a toyota's worth of IMAGINARY coarse cordage ?
mircea_popescu: im not even sure there exist that many shops which keep that much cordage around altogether.
mircea_popescu: including any marina outfitter i ever saw. 8k dollars would be like what, a roomfull ?
danielpbarron: by my math a 100 USD chetty stick would come out to 5mn quality. you have these??
mircea_popescu: o it would ?
mircea_popescu: lesee since i brought it up
danielpbarron: i have several hundred 200k quality from before the split, which i guess are worth more than 3 USD a pop
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i have 367k ones ; they were 36k and then the float happ[ened
mircea_popescu: i guess i was off by a zero again ?
mircea_popescu: bitcoin plays right into my peculiar form of mathslexia ; i am thoroughly and forever degree of magnitude confused.
asciilifeform: oh hey the auction thing is interesting
mircea_popescu: now if only we had a bitbet to lose our shit betting on what eventual price the shit ends up sold at...
mircea_popescu: INFINITE POWER
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: maybe at some point we auction prototype rng ( asciilifeform has a few , mircea_popescu also, and somebody else i think )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im not selling mine ; but you can yes. tho prolly too soon.
mircea_popescu: anyway. republican autarky progressing nicely / intensifies.
asciilifeform: i have 2x a 'массово габаритный макет' if you will , of the FG pcb , also prolly auctionfodder candidate
mircea_popescu: i propose in a decade or two we all retire and live off the auctioning of memorabilia.
mircea_popescu: you know, exactly like the ww2 generation did.
asciilifeform: !!up fromloper
deedbot: fromloper voiced for 30 minutes.
fromloper: asciilifeform, have you read this? http://www.textfiles.com/bitsavers/pdf/symbolics/I_Machine/
fromloper: this seems to be Symbolics' internal docs for the Ivory. are they sufficient to develop a clone? I've tried to find previous discussions of this particular subset of docs in the logs but didn't find anything.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: not only read, but have the dead tree
asciilifeform: and nope, sadly nowhere near sufficient.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron it just means in a different kind of game. a very sad one. like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSK7KWye0n0&feature=youtu.be
fromloper: the macroinstruction set doc was actually published as a dead tree book?
asciilifeform: fromloper: it is part of the reason why the snap* emulators don't properly work
asciilifeform: fromloper: not published as such. but was in my docs pile next to the actual docs.
asciilifeform: !#s ivory
a111: 90 results for "ivory", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=ivory
asciilifeform: fromloper ^ start here
fromloper: I see. I was trying to reverse-engineer snap4 from the source code but postponed it due to lack of time.
mircea_popescu: fromloper consider getting a name ?
fromloper: I had a registered nickname on freenode a while ago, I'll try to remember the password
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749644 << mod6 didja ever describe this ??
a111: Logged on 2017-12-11 21:56 mod6: <+asciilifeform> incidentally folx: each of you who considers himself 'graduate' of an ffa chapter, consider signing << fwiw, I have held back signing on ch1 since I can not still build it out of the box, successfully.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749651 << fwiw i test on 2016
a111: Logged on 2017-12-11 21:58 mod6: this was supposidly because im running 2015 adacore. which i can buy. but have had even less success with Adacore 2016 and 2017. not to say that I won't get the incantaiton correct at somepoint, but for now, I can't build it successfully.
mod6: ya. it's in the logs. i can dig it up if needed. but i believe my problem to be environmental and somehow to related to adacore.
mod6: i'll keep workin on it.
asciilifeform: i tested on both adacore and gnuist
asciilifeform: ( for bonus, also on crapple )
mod6: sure. i'll im just looking for the correct way to set up an environment.
mod6: bah. s/i'll//
mod6: so it seems it may somehow be related to ben_vulpes's issue
mod6: i'll keep digging in and report back
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/medley/ << Trilema - Medley.
ben_vulpes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/ryan-lizza-of-the-new-yorker-fired-for-improper-sexual-contact/2017/12/11/3d7da174-deb7-11e7-8679-a9728984779c_story.html << the vigorous contestations begin!
asciilifeform: 'He also unwittingly became caught up in the news in 2013 when he attempted to sign up for health insurance on HealthCare.gov, the then-new website for Obamacare. He described the experience in a series of tweets, noting at first that he was successful in setting up an account. But then he ran into problems in completing the sign up, mirroring the experience of millions of users, who faced glitches in the site’s earliest days. The
asciilifeform: Obama White House tweeted out his earliest tweets, however, conveying the false impression that signing up was easy ...'
mircea_popescu: the very notion of PROPER sexual contact.
mircea_popescu: protege domine.
mircea_popescu: [plebem tuam per signum sanctae crucis ab obnibus insidiis inimiucorum omnium]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 16413.0, vol: 16683.29327574 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 16643.95894003, vol: 78223.52808399 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 16522.4, vol: 4555.0776512 | Volume-weighted last average: 16599.6518618
mats: i keep seeing 'traumatic brain injury' in your statements, BingoBoingo
mircea_popescu: so i re-watched la grande belezza for like the twelfth time. it's possibly the greatest film ever made. or maybe i'm just slow -- for instance, only now did it finally occur to me that the giulio moneta, "uno dei dieci latitanti piu ricercati del mondo" was in fact a straight reference to m m denaro.
mircea_popescu: aaand here's a bit for trinque 's humanities studies : "Dies irae, dias illa solved saeculum in favilla teste David cum Sibylla ; quantus tremor est futurus quando Judex est venturus cuncta stricte discussurus!"
lobbes: I wonder if this has to do with: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-08#1734399
a111: Logged on 2017-11-08 21:13 lobbes: and yeah, I overlooked that I apparently had to also remove expiration on the sub -explicitly- (via gpg --edit-key). Even though it was showing the sub as 'expiration: none' after I had removed expiration on the pub way back when
mircea_popescu: i guess his is shorter
trinque: lobbes: oh yeah, that machine is quite likely to have your old key
trinque will also look into what floppy lispism resulted in that URL
lobbes: word. I'm in no real rush either way (and I think I only had around 0.001 on there)
trinque: lobbes: give it another pull
lobbes: and confirmed: balance matches
trinque: mircea_popescu: will put that in the study queue. something about visions of angry, loosened/secularized days, maybe? gotta cram more tenses into my skull.
mircea_popescu: sibylla, yes ? and david ?
mircea_popescu: it's like... a 900 year old text about cryptoconcerns.
trinque: http://www.preces-latinae.org/thesaurus/Hymni/DiesIrae.html << neat, found full text
mircea_popescu: the 1800s anglican englishversion is not bad, either.
trinque: is the "illa" there not "they" or "those", as in referring to the subjects at end of the first line?
trinque: can't tell if the translation is just macroexpanding "dies irae" with the "dreadful day" or if there's another "illa"
trinque: could see the former, "look kid, your language takes saying it twice to understand irae"
mircea_popescu: i suspect twice may be an understatement
mircea_popescu: "nobody could have predicted", after all.
mod6: asciilifeform: ok I got it working with gnat-2016. somehow i had a corrupted install i believe. http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/AOIKx/?raw=true
asciilifeform: oh hey hey hey lbj
asciilifeform: congrats mod6
asciilifeform: trinque: i've wondered for some time , is the thing where your walletron throws pgpciphered matter into the greater void, as in e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749739 , without the addressee's name in the line -- deliberate design choice ?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 02:21 deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/DEZG5/?raw=true
asciilifeform: and if so -- why
asciilifeform: often the link pops up hour or moar after the invocation, and i end up clicking, expecting traditional (i.e. plaintext) deedbot material
mod6: <+asciilifeform> congrats mod6 << thanks for the blog posts!
asciilifeform: yw mod6
lobbes: !!invoice danielpbarron 0.00024 http://deedbot.org/deed-473777-3.txt
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/GOX2n/?raw=true
lobbes: !!v C9851BC0DF6A2F6FB5A32CE817F6A8A8CC3205513F80DB14D8A5AE9C72F897E3
deedbot: Invoiced danielpbarron 0.00024 << http://deedbot.org/deed-473777-3.txt
mircea_popescu: !~calc 0.00024 * 17133.3184732
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 0.00024 * 17133.3184732 = 4.111996433568001
mircea_popescu: seems so improbable.
danielpbarron: !!pay-invoice lobbes 1
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/yEGl4/?raw=true
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: if you're talking about http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-09#1749036 my guess is that's a block inclusion receipt
a111: Logged on 2017-12-09 02:28 deedbot: hanbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/zHdaA/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: no, without a name
ben_vulpes: the linked one is not one of those "hours later" instances tho
mircea_popescu: yeah. possibly though rule to always put addressee name in line when sending encrypted matter may be useful nevertheless.
ben_vulpes: well shit now someone has to build a gpg-gram adressee grepulator
mircea_popescu: why ?
mircea_popescu: he knows he's encrypting to x
ben_vulpes: i kid, i kid
mircea_popescu: your kids scare me.
ben_vulpes: not scary yet, can't recognize more than 80% of the alphabet or get safeties off firearms
mircea_popescu: aaand in other ancient trilemas, http://trilema.com/2009/de-mogulibus/
mircea_popescu: at least at teh time, the definitive work on romania.
trinque: lobbes: that is probably hung up in dns purgatory. my hop from namecheap to namesilo just took, and namesilo didn't slurp all the old records.
mircea_popescu: pretty cool interface btw, wouldn't you say ?
trinque: looks like deeds was the only thing that cared.
trinque: yep, I approve so far. no bullshit, very straightforward.
trinque: and can deposit btc
mircea_popescu: lol i think i deposited a btc back when it was a few hundy
deedbot: accepted: 1