a111: Logged on 2018-02-04 16:12 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes : i just spent 10 minutes clicking like a madman through the dates of your logs of trilema-trinque trilema-mod6 etc. could it be a feature that if one month contains less than 2k lines of log then it is presented as a month by month rather than as a day by day thing ?
ben_vulpes: i want to do something to surface the dates of conversations, also the "next" button on the monthly view lets one page forward into infinity, but i'm going to let it sit for now
a111: Logged on 2018-02-04 22:36 b41e209ccc264812: the books guy is back
a111: Logged on 2018-02-04 22:40 b41e209ccc264812: ugly i know
a111: Logged on 2018-02-04 22:37 asciilifeform: then i regret to inform b41e209ccc264812 that there are no new b00kz
a111: Logged on 2017-03-15 13:55 b41e209ccc264812: thanks Pete. I am still doing trilema.com for now.
mircea_popescu: and is it me or are these three point log combos becoming ever more frequent
mircea_popescu: we'll consider disgrace rewrite was before he declared his interest and therefore known to him ; this still leaves us EIGHT books, what do you mean "no".
a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 17:16 asciilifeform: ( and lol, this has gotta be the 1st time i hear mircea_popescu refer to a hardcopy of sumthing..? )
a111: Logged on 2018-02-04 22:45 b41e209ccc264812: I am the Mario guy and a kind of fan of Munguia
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781159 << for the record, "ut pondus sic tensio" doesn't mean "the weight is equal to the tension", as commonly translated by primitive north american orc minds. it says "as upon the weight, so [upon] the tension", meaning that changes of tension are proportional (and not equal) to changes applied to load.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 00:08 a111: Logged on 2015-03-17 03:29 asciilifeform: ;;google cediinnoopsssttuu
mircea_popescu: this sort of difference, "subtle" if you're born to do dishes, is both the bread and butter of science as well as the fundamental pillar of human language.
mircea_popescu: two important items, to belabour this point : pondus is load, not "weight". proportion, not "equality", is rendered by the ut/sic ~nonverbal~ construction.
mircea_popescu: (the ancient "εἴτε τὰ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς εἴτε τὰ ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς" that then yielded in the orthodox rite "precum in cer asa si pe pamint" etcetera, ie a retroversion to the original egyptian mysticologies that originated the whole pile, is the box in which this sleeps.)
a111: Logged on 2018-02-03 00:13 asciilifeform: the whole 'dynamic pages' thing is a terrifying hack on classical http
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 02:33 ben_vulpes: you haven't noticed that bitcoin isn't the toplevel topic here more often than not?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 04:31 hanbot: and on other people's planes, emotional support peacocks are a thing up there now?!
http://archive.is/azMke
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 04:57 trinque: "you look just like your mother did at your age!"
mircea_popescu: basically i'm looking to better guarantees that my clicking has an effect. "it will give you previous day" is a great thing on #trilema, where you fucking know a day is going to take like... a day to go through, especially if you check references / think about what's said etc. but if the channel is lower volume, it may well be meaningless, "thank you for your click, here's a WHOLE NEW empty field to replace your previous empt
mircea_popescu: y field". so logically, "how about i can scroll a month at a time instead".
mircea_popescu: aaand, after having dumped 42 lines of talking to himself, mircea_popescu shall now retire, but not before wishing everyone a very good morning!
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 08:49 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781159 << for the record, "ut pondus sic tensio" doesn't mean "the weight is equal to the tension", as commonly translated by primitive north american orc minds. it says "as upon the weight, so [upon] the tension", meaning that changes of tension are proportional (and not equal) to changes applied to load.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 08:51 mircea_popescu: two important items, to belabour this point : pondus is load, not "weight". proportion, not "equality", is rendered by the ut/sic ~nonverbal~ construction.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 09:15 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781214 << this, by the way, is a major result of
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-03#1780490 ; and a fine proof of their importance. at issue isn't "give me file x", like in classical fs-addressing "static"
http, to which the answer may be "here it is" or "no such thing". the semantic content is "give me the item that is like this", which results in ONE resource that satisfies the criterion gi
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 09:22 mircea_popescu: y field". so logically, "how about i can scroll a month at a time instead".
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phf: that's accidentally btcbase behavior, next and previous buttons figure out next date by looking at next message's in sequence timestamp
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Durante los temors, cuando el ano de Buterin està momentos antes de la penetracìon del fin.
phf: asciilifeform: by the way, freebsd's ports system (i tried it on a machine that can actually compile things, unlike x60) is a little bit more configurable than pkgsrc/openbsd, so you can actually disable dbus in emacs or firefox! but the lulz of lulz, firefox depends on gtk3, where you can't configure out dbus, so presumably it gets pulled anyway.
phf: ah that would make sense
phf: tell me again how you don't want a sat solver in your build system
a111: Logged on 2017-12-29 19:14 asciilifeform: lol in this sense an adder is 'specialcase of satsolver'
a111: Logged on 2017-11-23 16:20 phf: re upstack, there's been a resurgence of sorts of gopher protocol, various hipsters spinning up personal websites, etc. whether the resurgence was shortlived or i'm just late to the game, but there's already a community of wreckers (one of them groups is coming from this federated twitter platform, mastodon) discussing all the various ways that they want to "improve" gopher, tls, utf-8, markdown renderer, "minimal subset of html", etc. but at the same
phf: vereshyagin, uhodi s barkasa
BingoBoingo: Do you know what is a really hard word to spell en Ingles para mi hoy? Bicycle
mircea_popescu: check that out, bbpisp realised like 40 bitcent financial gains on the latest round of financing
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Everyone here talks about their bici's which few people actually ride. Thusly there's a cognitive bump in my head as I compose a piece on the latest pantsuit premonition.
BingoBoingo: Eh, there isn't enought to qntra outta the headline I wanted. Apparently the pantsuits are pushing bici to vehicle transponders as a way of ensuring bicicletist safety in a self driving car world. What isn't stated by the pantsuits is a lol, but not enough of one.
mircea_popescu: it is both obscene and a sign of complete abandonment of one's humanity to permit his harem slaves to go about with dirty hair, or on "bici"s.
mircea_popescu: let the poor women die painfully in abject poverty for the glorification of the select few.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I am assuming the bicicletists are allowed to terrorize self driving cars with impunity.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: These pieces are from pantsuit outlets in old country
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 09:22 mircea_popescu: y field". so logically, "how about i can scroll a month at a time instead".
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes but... i find it suspicious the dates for all lines are from the last day of the month ?
ben_vulpes: yeah, artifact of the link being to .#<anchor>
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 06:22 ben_vulpes: i want to do something to surface the dates of conversations, also the "next" button on the monthly view lets one page forward into infinity, but i'm going to let it sit for now
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 14:36 asciilifeform: who the fuck wants to flip through 9000 empties.
mircea_popescu: empower the alt-reality fictions of worthless "precious" cuntlet, so devoid of any value or impoirtance she couldn't even fdind clerical employment in her home country.
mircea_popescu: so yes, wanna-be "hipsters" from south america (pro tip : you CAN NOT be a hipster there, fakers!) are, irrespective of their hallucinated "wealth", pushing the usg official catechism-for-the-poor. what of it.
mircea_popescu: not differtent disease at all. it's just that in libertard worldview, king of myanmar is a step down for widow of indistinct army colonel.
mircea_popescu: and the axe handles in orcistan tend to [be selected by their] promote the idiocy.
mircea_popescu: in fact, the difference between "functioning democracy" and "evil authoritarian regime" in the cia fictionbook is whether the local elite takes the above view or the mp view of "everything you do here, you pay, and you pay to find out how much to pay, and pray it doesn't change further".
mircea_popescu: then they gotta "fight corruption" in the sense of, get the local elite replaced with more malleable turds.
mircea_popescu: elisa estevez is the direction to understand this, the "magical orc touched by the vorlons".
mircea_popescu: in my view, orc biciclist is virtue-signalling, exactly like entirely worthless zek that goes about yakking "civil rights" as if the clitler version of this were a thing.
mircea_popescu: and what he's virtue signalling is one of two things : either "i am ready to be elevated into a criminology beca at spaceship" or else "i am ready to be given a precious cuntlet you no longer need to rule all things around me".
mircea_popescu: no. there was about as much biciclism there as in colombia/uruguay/whatever, but these looked like mobility solutions rather than "hope in a better future".
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: i assumed, possibly naively, that the orcistani ones simply can't afford a motor. << There is another contingent that believes, or says they believe motocicletas are UNSAFE!!!
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> what i was thinking of, is sorta like the diff b/w usa motorcyclist and orc : the ameritard buys 'harley' on credit, because he saw some movies once; the orc has old zundapp simply because that's all the petrol he can afford , and all the parking that's to be had in his goat shed << Nah, they do not ride zundapps. They ride a lot of Yumbos and other chinese imports.
mircea_popescu: they are at that. you should see the retards here. 0 lights, on highway. weaving in like nobody's business. so what if it's night, you should be able to sense their presence.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no monroe doctrine for egypt. no ubiquitous "smart"phone to carry the message of the imams of the cult of the dead clitler.
BingoBoingo: Here most of the motocicletists seem to be delivery folk. Behave like scared rabbits. Do shit like coast with motor off downhill on sidewalks.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise yes, your intuition is fundamentally correct, the scum is universally responsive, they could produce however millions of "human rights" and "democracy" and the rest of the fake bullshit if anyone gave them the time of day.
BingoBoingo: They do have pnojes! To order deliveries made en motocicleta
mircea_popescu: logically, if you don't step on their face, they're going to go about "having ideas" and "making choices" and so on.
BingoBoingo: awaits phf's more traveled assessment of traffic and transportation in Montevideo.
mircea_popescu: sure. tons of various kinds, i spent years pissing on them in ro while they were "upset" and "trilema doesn't exist because it pisses on us from the balcony".
mircea_popescu: rather like today's usgistani reaction, at that. great times.
mircea_popescu: hanbot hey, remember when trilema was declared "illegal" because i had an ocean of stickers put up in the vein of
http://trilema.com/2016/pizdi/ and they a) had never thought of it and b) couldn't afford the coupla benjies even if they had thought of it, so massive butthurt ensued ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform at any rate, i'd say about 1/3 of pre-2012 trilema consists pretty much of this, "corner ro toporisk, erape them, publish the results".
mircea_popescu: "they" in the sense that there was some evident central structure, prolly driven by us embassy on a tight budget, and there was a lot of faking audience numbers and so on.
mircea_popescu: somehow even if given the chance, usg-influence agent orc will NOT cut the usg idiocy out with hot shears.
mircea_popescu: would rather keep paying the personal cost of the lie than admit to it being dumb.
mircea_popescu: so you know, to alf's absolute standard, "she never suffered the consequences", i guess.
mircea_popescu: they're just items. can you imagine a chair taking revenge ?
mircea_popescu: this is like saying "chair knows enough to roll down a grade". mmkay ?
hanbot: mircea_popescu sure i remember, was one of the more hysterical objections i'd ever heard. and iirc it wasn't just that *trilema* was "illegal"; *you* were lol
mircea_popescu: if you're willing to say the "pay me what i say for me to do what i think i should do" class is more like gnats than chairs, in the end it makes no difference, mechanisms are still not people.
hanbot: to its credit, chair never threw itself into my wine, to have to be fished out.
mircea_popescu: btw, speaking of the pizdi thing : can you even for a second believe thant 100% (that is, ONE HUNDRED PERCENT) of respondents were MALE, penning items in the vein of "well... maybe you need help fucking the herd you already got ? you never know ? hm ?"
mircea_popescu: local beer drinkin' gals (and the beer here is terryfying swill) think my fine rum (which is indeed finest in the world) is no good.
mircea_popescu: the thing with food is that if you're used to crap, good food tastes dubious at best to you.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i've met a bunch of "vegetarian" gals that are no longer ; much like i actually fuck about half-lesbians by headcount these days. if you don't know how $item is, easy enough to "give it up"
mircea_popescu: in retrospect, that 50% may be severely understated -- i can't think of a girl that actually likes boys. even if not gay, the selection on tap is such that... well...
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 14:34 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781218 << laugh, but until today i had nfi that this mistranslation existed ! and it is still not clear to me how it was possible to come up with it while knowing that the orig referred to springs ( where the correct orig statement is true, and the bastardized -- elementarily -- not )
mircea_popescu: has this sad, and ever saddening, tendency to check "references as available to young lass" whenever item of young lass interest pops in.
mircea_popescu: anyway, quoted object is first result on a search, at least on the network i looked at.
mircea_popescu: anywa. as to how it is possible... equality, alf. they stuff it in everywhere.
mircea_popescu: like an alcoholic going about replacing words so room reads rum and vine reads wine, so a libertard, "equality" this and "democracy" that.
mircea_popescu: and if that theory dun satisfy you, i have no better one.
mircea_popescu: one harem amusement is, girls propose batshit insane anti-engineering devices. such as, for example, a car made out of poured concrete. then they proceed to defend it as best they can.
mircea_popescu: well, they soon will, of course. but i hadn't mentioned either.
mircea_popescu: (note, btw, the old link still resolves. and will, till the end of time. at no cost to me.)
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 15:11 phf: that's accidentally btcbase behavior, next and previous buttons figure out next date by looking at next message's in sequence timestamp
mircea_popescu: massively easy to implement than build a whole day/month state machine.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 15:20 phf: asciilifeform: by the way, freebsd's ports system (i tried it on a machine that can actually compile things, unlike x60) is a little bit more configurable than pkgsrc/openbsd, so you can actually disable dbus in emacs or firefox! but the lulz of lulz, firefox depends on gtk3, where you can't configure out dbus, so presumably it gets pulled anyway.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 15:21 asciilifeform: still something that imho a respectable ports collection oughta be able to auto-disgorge, e.g. 'give me last ff that didn't demand gtk3'
mircea_popescu: yes but build should not die simply because of nominal concerns, "imperial-catamite put $x in list of requirements".
mircea_popescu: they don't. they just put the right words in the makefile.
mircea_popescu: even though this is true, still no reason to permit them to name things.
mircea_popescu: first let the build fail, then look at whether yo ucan be arsed to fix, then call it dead.
mircea_popescu: you'd be surprised how often the "requirements" can simply be trampled with nary a shit given as to whose hopes and aspirations this rapes and how badly.
mircea_popescu: not mechanical, no. just the principle of the thing -- jwz's indications of "required" are worth exactly as much as jwz itself.
mircea_popescu: (the true problem is that you end up with approximable programs, that do who knows what ; so not fit for running en serio)
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 16:19 hanbot: to its credit, chair never threw itself into my wine, to have to be fished out.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 16:24 mircea_popescu: local beer drinkin' gals (and the beer here is terryfying swill) think my fine rum (which is indeed finest in the world) is no good.
mircea_popescu: cotor => book spine, the tough part of cabbage, more generally a hard core of things
mircea_popescu: anyway, the metonimy there suggests "to harden them up chemically", ie implant (like silicone implants) but of hardness not of bigness.
mircea_popescu: (this -- much more common problem for usgistan than ever admitted, or even realised. most ro good wines are not exported ; similarly not french, nor etcetera.)
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 22:54 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731544 << everyone is, as a result of usg militant tardation. i can just drive into brazil. you -- can not. they "banned" turkish visitors, as if anyone from turkey could be arsed to go to the us ; turkey reciprocated, meaning about 70% of classical antiquity is now off limits to what in english passes for "the civilised world".
mircea_popescu: for a country that produces nothing and has nothing, the us manages to isolate itself from all markets worth the mention with admirable abandon.
trinque: "Oh yeah? We still produce RST packets!" said the agent, before losing his gaze in a cup of Folgers.
mircea_popescu: ah, speaking of trains, here's a story i wanted to tell!
mircea_popescu: so, the ~reason~ north america ended up speaking english is two fold, and has nothing to do with anglotards.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-12 02:13 asciilifeform: the one with 'rich folx live in space station nao'
mircea_popescu: 1. when presented the steam engine, napoleon failed to see what's so great about it, resulting in no french steamboats. 2. once the english started using the steam engine in land mobility applications, the french incredibly idiotically made their railroads state property, thus ensuring they had no technology and no experts on hand.
mircea_popescu: because the english had the railroad private, by the time they were ~done with it and the us was starting, they exported (unintentionally) a lot of the "mature" technology across the ocean. the united states was built atop the railroad, and consequently imported english like it imported
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-10#1723584
a111: Logged on 2017-10-10 01:45 mircea_popescu: used anything there was a significant chance to break a wheel in the road, as all the trails were built by 1435 mm wheels. but why were they ? because when the romans originally landed, they used 1435 mm wide wheelbases, which they had originally specified because it is what two average horses asses cover.
mircea_popescu: had the french had the sense to ironclad in 1799 and to private railroad in 1820, likely us rail system would have started from st louis and new orleans rather than new york and philadelphia, and as a result the 1860 dispute would have been a case of "tiny english east being shaken off humongous french colonial empire".
mircea_popescu: ie, english would have been spoken in america the way french is spoken in canada.
mircea_popescu: it's a fabulous case to illustrate what a) personal failure in divine leader coupled with b) state always ruins all opportunities can produce in a short century.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's my considered oppinion that had napoleon switched the fleet to ironclads and had the french state not been permitted to operate any railroads, they'd have rebounded.
mircea_popescu: of course, not in any meaningful sense -- england itself is still a shithole today, with that as it'd have been without that (holland, or portugal work as baseline)
mircea_popescu: but anyway, spencer correctly points out the state-run french railways were a joke mid 1800s.
mircea_popescu: the importance of this, however, afaik went unnoticed. it makes a fucking difference to not have sluts ready to go on an adventure.
mircea_popescu: <div class="notice_bar"><div class="ac">Unfortunately, creating new messages is currently broken. We are looking into it. Sorry. :(</div><a href="#" class="xxs un tdn i hide_notice" style="position: absolute; top: 10px; right: 10px">close</a></div> << the added element.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: broke the messages table!
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 19:56 mircea_popescu: it's deeply retarded, because it's algorithmic. sleep $[ ( $RANDOM % x ) + y evidently kills it.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-14 03:16 asciilifeform: tell the folx expropriated by usg-cum-'private'railroads ( live <10mile of new tracks ? lose land ) about 'property right' , etc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no 1800s rail development involved expropriation.
mircea_popescu: (for the curious : 40k/track mile was a generous-ishj appropriation for rail back then)
mircea_popescu: it's about 100mn currently, which implies a 2500x devaluation in the interval.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 2500 ^ (1/150) = 1.0535446192793132
mircea_popescu: yes ? the above "40k/track mile" is congress appropriations also.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 16:16 hanbot: mircea_popescu sure i remember, was one of the more hysterical objections i'd ever heard. and iirc it wasn't just that *trilema* was "illegal"; *you* were lol
mircea_popescu: i think the way the socialist empires work, everything they do decays over time.
mircea_popescu: you gotta understand what "capitalism" meant. you could, and often people DID, walk on premises of say farm, make cash offer to owner, and he'd be out in a week.
mircea_popescu: try this in "civilised" europe, people hurr durr about "their ancestors" wtf batshit nonsense.
mircea_popescu: america was great specifically because it didn't have that kind of people.
mircea_popescu: "say one dollar more over its fair value and it's yours. the woman will get used to it."
mircea_popescu: so i have little trouble believing, as clemens describes, "mark spot for depoit, buy the land from farmer, sell later at profit"
mircea_popescu: just because michael moore of 1800s ranted about "robber barons" don't mean jack.
mircea_popescu: back to teh fetlife lulz : the amusing part, at least toi me, is that friend-adding still works! i'm the happy owner of an account with 7890 of them. which i expect is the site record.
a111: Logged on 2015-02-06 19:45 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 2) client companies of the state wish to be important. the market tells them to stuff it 3) government steps in... <<< see also the famous example of syntex corp. in mexico (carl djerassi!) - first mass-production of synthetic progestins, then nationalized, then gone - 'bad luck!'
mircea_popescu: much like landgrants in the new world were generally seen, for a long time.
mircea_popescu: (in fact, difference between new york and buenos aires wrt their relative impacts on countryside is probably MOSTLY explained by taxation)
a111: Logged on 2014-08-13 14:40 asciilifeform: 'They tend to show up late at parties because they figure they can always steal the cake anyway, so why bother go early ? Let the suckers figure out first - on their own dime - where the good cakes are, then just swoop in and collect... This means the only way they can get in is if you let them get in. Dont let them get in for cheap - they have no business here.' (mp's
http://trilema.com/2014/people-us-dollar
mircea_popescu: imagine what'd have happened to a body that spent $2k to buy 200 pizza's ie 2mn bitcoin back in 2009 if he paid "tax" on his stash every year.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 18:35 mircea_popescu: america was great specifically because it didn't have that kind of people.
mircea_popescu: 2mn halved every year for a decade ain't come to much.
mircea_popescu: this is what culture is, the contents of the ashtray in which the above was smoked.
mircea_popescu: i do not believe it is "never recovered from mongol therapy", i believe it's "And they were such retarded pantsuits, not even the mongols could help them"
mircea_popescu: just because one manages to die in spite of penicillin doesn't mean antibiotics aren't the end of transmissible disease.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 6920.0, vol: 37210.95668405 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 7024.9, vol: 117719.01503665 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 6899.3, vol: 16384.84235 | Volume-weighted last average: 6990.10227636
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform isn't it lulzy how there's EXACTLY the same "volume" going on the fiat fansites irrespective ?
trinque: usg wants to sell me sub $1k coin, that's just fine by me. lets go
trinque: bitcoin's dead everyone, nothing to see here.
mircea_popescu: last: 6920.0, vol: 37210.95668405 ; last 9962.0, vol: 43036.01398257 ; last: 13681.37, vol: 10706.72692343 ; last: 16607.0, vol: 32318.56936603 and so following.
mircea_popescu: basically, usg got what, 3-5k bitcoin, which it keeps sloshing back and forth to itself on closed "exchange" tripod websites ?
mircea_popescu: who paid for, eg, the actual coins i got selling their bch thing, santa ?
mircea_popescu: being the empire in this game very much has a cost, by heller und pfenning. erry day they gotta pay.
mircea_popescu: and if nothing else, the abandonment of the pretense to picking winners in the space, "this is the official usg altcoin" bullshit seems to me sufficient proof they're ~out of steam.
mircea_popescu: oh, where are ye bluestate.doge, mit.ethereum, orcistan.bch... it was such nice knowing ye...
mircea_popescu: it is also possible average crack whore has a pile of microsoft stock she's not selling.
mircea_popescu: heh. this oddly reminds me of my expensive imported coasters
a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 20:39 mircea_popescu: here's the problems with "expensive, upscale" coasters : they're not a square of cut up cork, like you'd expect if they were you know, uncivilised, unglamorous, un-internet-of-things orcfare. no. they're a thin strip of cork glued to cardboard with some shiny drawings on top.
ben_vulpes: real stuff is expensive, nyooz at ereven
mircea_popescu: and in today's "engineering's not my calling" : i have some nice thick candles, which no longer burn because the thread-thin wicks they came with aren't strong enough to melt the whole thickness and as a result they get drowned in melted wax.
mircea_popescu: but, think i, i've this nice cm thick natural linen rope for the girls, how about i use knife to cut new hole and replace mm wick with cm wick ?
mircea_popescu: well... turns out that they burn great, in the medieval sense : they smoke now. entirely unusable in dainty 21th century "colonial style" house awash in whitewash.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they dun wanna DO anything ; they just wanna LOOK A CERTAIN WAY.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you managed to sell 4 out of 25 cents somehow ?
BingoBoingo: So far, the other people advertising on local BTC last I checked were skittish. Will try to make some more trade dates, but the OKcupid thing pre-mike_c seemed like an easier way to meet people
a111: Logged on 2018-01-21 15:25 mircea_popescu: !!pay BingoBoingo 0.25
a111: Logged on 2018-01-20 15:05 jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 12681.11, vol: 12028.04435018 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 12592.0, vol: 46503.75514921 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 12688.9, vol: 5237.5615253 | Volume-weighted last average: 12616.7664195
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 17:19 BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
BingoBoingo: Right now I am waiting and still asking people if they want coffee
mircea_popescu: so was this basically a case of a) you figured you'll play at teh FX speculator and it didn't work out for you or b) you misjudged
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-11#1769068 capacity of the place to such a degree, all it could actually absorb was a measly 500 ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-11 17:02 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so what's the plan here, drop upon the dc with brown paper bag fulla cash ?
BingoBoingo: I misjudged the capacity that doesn't involve taking the boat to Buenos Aires.
BingoBoingo: One person could summon $500 and the others on prodding would have been lucky to summon twice that in pesos.
mircea_popescu: aite, well, you'll have to survive on the fiat you have, i dun see selling at these joek prices as sane.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 22:37 mircea_popescu: aite, well, you'll have to survive on the fiat you have, i dun see selling at these joek prices as sane.
mircea_popescu: sell as little as you need within 10% of the ath and you'll be fine.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in operation enduring lulzmine, fetlife still beastforum'd. 5 hours.
mircea_popescu: JohnBaku: devilheart Sorry everyone for this, big booboo on our side! :-( No excuses.
mircea_popescu: hey, i'm not saying they're credible, or at least competent at lying. you asked for the #.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw did i miss a sunday night post of yours or what happened ?
mircea_popescu: are you going to push me into missing phf's deadline here ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo in the end, did you get prices from anyone that weren't utterly ridiculous, 2x internets ?
mircea_popescu: aww poor bb lost weight! how you holding up down there ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo in the end, did you get prices from anyone that weren't utterly ridiculous, 2x internets ? << Not for shit that isn't lowest common denominator consumer boxes. The datacenter forwarded a spreadsheet SuperMicro sent them with prices for two boxes in quantities up to 20 a piece today. Missing was any information on what the fuck the boxes were. Super Micro included model numbers that don't resolve to anything
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> aww poor bb lost weight! how you holding up down there ? << It beats the US, but the better my spanish gets the less impressed I am with the locals.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> btw BingoBoingo , what's a 'CoWork' ? << An office arrangement where they set you up with an address suitable for local fiscal reporting. Lotta outsourced remote workers here, many of the better locals I have encountered. Place to do actual work, the hostel isn't equiped to accomodate that.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i figure should prolly enact an expense account for you, looking through these ledgers. how's 20 bux a day sound ?
mircea_popescu: aite, count it for feb, that gives you like a benjie headstart.
BingoBoingo: !~later tell shinohai Got any Qntra stories baking yet?
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: Soon, BingoBoingo .... I have a relapse of the flu curse wafting around here.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Everything that comes in Fedex/DHL seems to get inspected at customs here. Customs here seems to focus on how things enter the country. If it is fedex/dhl they figure it is prolly a local they can tax on their amazon purchase. If it is in a suitcase it is assumed to be the holy relic of a sacred tourist and thusly undisturbed.
BingoBoingo: Only so much of the population is capable of working as a pinoy+, the competent authorities here are keenly aware that everything they have here is because of tourist expenditures.
BingoBoingo: This country between December and March hosts more tourists than it has people living here.
deedbot: jawbone2 voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: jawbone2: Who is your daddy and what does he do?
ben_vulpes: hah mircea_popescu did break the messages table!
jawbone2: Howdy my dad is dead, so I suppose he does what dead people do.
jawbone2: I live in Florida. A sunny place for shady people
a111: Logged on 2017-12-30 20:14 jawbone2: My name is Jim Weaver I live in Florida. I do not keep a blog yet. That is coming with my webserver project
BingoBoingo: I have not been there, but how many disks are you going to fit in an envelope before it starts looking like a package?
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: 1200/100 = 12
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: get a read on how they calculate tax for items in opened envelopes yet?
mircea_popescu: what the fuck happened to the blog post motherfucking hell
mircea_popescu: you're like, untalkable to. "do you need pictures ?" "no, i said spec" "ok, ima dump it in chan" "NO I SAID DO NOT DUMP IT IN FUCKING CHAN"
mircea_popescu: how exactly is this miswired mess of a nonbrain work ?
mircea_popescu: i tell you to do x, you do non-x, then whine about not being in the loop. then learn nothing from the experience, ready to do it all over again
mircea_popescu: here, chew on this doozy : i will not use any of your shit now.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: If the paper declaring it an import with a value isn't there at least another 50% on top of the 22% VAT. Looking at the advertisements here
https://listado.mercadolibre.com.uy/samsung-ssd#D[A:samsung ssd] it appears there is a brisk business of people doing the suitcase thing.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 18:45 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-14#1751463 << it does exactly one fucking job. this one : diana_coman please don't talk to asciilifeform or take any further advice from him. total timewaste.
mircea_popescu: so, people who ~aren't~ asciilifeform : phf still needs a pile of gear for his flight ; BingoBoingo can't produce it locally. i'm looking for system suggestions.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: he can't provide you a fucking quote on my airfare, what the fuck's wrong with you.
mircea_popescu: how about you stop doing dumb shit instead of running around trying to fix the dumb shit you already did.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 21:40 mircea_popescu: just make that post will you!
mircea_popescu: in order to be useful you must actually communicate. this "ima just do whatever the fuck occurs to me" dun cut it. never has, never will.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 21:40 asciilifeform: i'ma have to uncrate and photo then, later this weekend.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 21:40 mircea_popescu: not even necessarily photo, a simple "here is what we have, COMPLETE specs ; and what we probably might want to ~EVER~ get".
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 01:42 mircea_popescu: in order to be useful you must actually communicate. this "ima just do whatever the fuck occurs to me" dun cut it. never has, never will.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo phf trinque diana_coman so i'm thinking of basically getting a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ? i thinkl that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron can you get a coupla dozen FGs shipped to phf in wash dc ? how much ?
deedbot: juhoitse voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo incidentally, this rack is 19 inch or 23 inch ?
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, yes, how much money? i don't know exactly
danielpbarron: i can invoice afterwards, what speed shipping should i do?
mircea_popescu: he leaves on 13th, so if you send them say tomorrow they can't possibly be late i dun think ?
danielpbarron: also, should i unbox them to reduce the size/cost?
hanbot: <asciilifeform> picture this, i even took the photos, and cropped, etc. and got stuck trying to satisfy mircea_popescu's earlier item << fwiw, i suspect organizational trouble rather'n deliberate anti-delivery here. i'll say: i spent years imagining i.e. deliberate, detailed scheduling, writing "bullet points" etc was for dumb people, and that naturally i didn't need it. and i got by for various definitions of gettin', but didn't wash in mp's com
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, let me know the address? i'll send them tomorrow
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nothing in particular, they can just sit and wait. you can write a letter to the shareholders explaining how you fucked up delivery if you wish.
hanbot: anyway i humbly suggest breaking out the day by day calendar etc when met with surprises as above.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes dude. you were to produce a blog article detailing the items sunday night, you dumped random lines in log monday night isntead. this is what fucking up delivery is.
mircea_popescu: at some point, maybe, if we're lucky, s.nsa will get another chance to have its iron delivered. until then, there it sits.
hanbot: asciilifeform i don't doubt it, but my tidbit is solely re what i quoted from you, ie got stuck trying to satisfy earlier item, and so hadn't produced other item by deadline that prolly didn't even seem like one
mircea_popescu: and as an added bonus, you now get to go about looking for lords willing to bring your ideas about republican iron to the table, because i'm not further looking for your input on the topic just as i'm not further looking for your input on eucrypt topic.
mircea_popescu: you wanna participate, you gotta participate, not fuck up people's work for them.
mircea_popescu: nothing besides next fucking time do post whatever's required as required and naught else.
hanbot: (calendar. srsly. it sounds stupid, i promise it's not.)
deedbot: 4A19ED232D579FF2F00153ED16DCDF81A0FE0B92 registered as juhoitse.
hanbot: asciilifeform are you basically arguing that the reaction is disproportionate?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 23:52 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'ma uncrate things, take pics, expect a roundup sunday night.
mircea_popescu: why. because it never was "hey, re-tell me what i already know", it was "hey, try and apply your knowledge to producing a list of what we want to buy"/
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 01:57 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo phf trinque diana_coman so i'm thinking of basically getting a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ? i thinkl that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the fucking problem is exactly the "partial info". i'd rather have none.
mircea_popescu: hey. the job is reading and understanding what's said. nobody else can, or will do it for you.
danielpbarron: trinque, what is the fee charged for deedbot withdraw? is there a way to check pre-emptively?
mircea_popescu: if one sentence's insufficient however many more are available upon request. PRIOR rather than POST failure.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 21:40 mircea_popescu: not even necessarily photo, a simple "here is what we have, COMPLETE specs ; and what we probably might want to ~EVER~ get".
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 01:31 mircea_popescu: here, chew on this doozy : i will not use any of your shit now.
mircea_popescu: you had your take, fucked it up, maybe at some point you get more. that's it.
mircea_popescu: you realise this is the definition of tilt, yes ? "i know better than mp" etc.
trinque: danielpbarron: "reasonable based on market conditions"
trinque: and nah, I'm not quoting them ahead of time
trinque: because consider, I automatically quote you a fee, and then the mempool fills up. now what
danielpbarron: trinque, ok so should he try to withdraw the full amount and then it'll say.. ?
trinque: danielpbarron: if somebody withdraws entire balance, I subtract the tx fee from that amount.
juhoitse: !!withdraw 0.01 14EuLaLmKLZcSPjwekzDEYSm7HFx7dXYAV
juhoitse: !!v FA38C1D31C274146E0EC6131057E53C894CBE18F69E53CC16E6BEED121B9731C
mod6: I srsly doubt anyone thinks you're an idiot. I certainly do not. Maybe just take an irc break for a few hours. Stop your converyor belt, go and write blog post about boxen; even if too late. Ask forgiveness. Who knows, maybe Mr. Popescu changes his mind. Maybe not. But eitherway, lesson learned 'eh?
mod6: I'm not here to tell you what to do.
mod6: I'm certain that I don't know all of what was discussed between yourself and mircea_popescu - even in this very chamber.
mircea_popescu: trinque i suspect his whole thing was "how much under "all" must i withdraw to get it through". but in any case, how hard would it be to have a !!fee that reports "past week avg fee : x (y txn)" "past month avg fee" etc.
trinque: not hard at all; I'm of course recording it all
trinque: we might even get to the point where I *am* willing to quote fees ahead of time
mircea_popescu: well, exposing history is prolly 90% of the job anyway. give people a feel for it.
mircea_popescu: independently interesting from a statistical perspective anyway.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: why are you not rolling VAT into this pricing scheme?
trinque: not stating an explicit price per U is going to make the folks who aren't independently wealthy hesitant to dive in headfirst.
trinque: not "here's our cost model" plus whatever margin and maybe we find there are other costs later, or something
trinque: "my name is BingoBoingo and a U costs X, the end." pls&ty
trinque: is probably not the only person who is going to be aggressively buying bitcoin now that the blowoff happened.
trinque: so, my finances are going to stay taught as teenaged pussy in 2018
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 01:57 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo phf trinque diana_coman so i'm thinking of basically getting a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ? i thinkl that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ?
mircea_popescu: trinque thinking about it, dozen boards, dozen cpus, two dozen hdds, ram, fgs... i doubt he can actually carry this much.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo does the dc provide the racking boxes at least ? or does sheer metal have to be carried from overseas also ?
trinque: if I'm reading this correctly, 26.8 + 5.90 funnybux / wk, which is notbad.jpg
trinque: original estimate was iirc something like 270/mo
trinque: ftr BingoBoingo it would've been clearer to just leave vat (and any other line items) in the calculation for U/wk
trinque: knows BingoBoingo is *not* trying to omit things, just sets off allergies I developed dealing with other folks
trinque: it's a lovely thing to deal with people who will even tell you how they came to the price.
mircea_popescu: trinque do you actually like weekly pricing for colocation for some reason ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, i can say outright BingoBoingo 's prices are not correct. i ended up paying a little over 7k for 2 months' of the thing ; that's 3.6k or such post tax / 3k pre-tax not 2323.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 0.58441904 * 14915.6671703 = 8716.999888626242
trinque: ah well, that was all of it, I guess. welcome back, qntra
a111: Logged on 2018-01-25 00:35 mircea_popescu: !~calc 7150 / 11312.7937668
