shinohai: Reading Ch. 6 now asciilifeform ... nifty gnupg patch there.
snsabot: Logged on 2020-02-11 03:15:57 asciilifeform: shinohai: arguably that kludge is obsoleted by the pgpturd-eater in ch20
snsabot: Logged on 2020-02-11 03:21:26 asciilifeform: shinohai: unrelatedly : sad to hear that you
set bozo bit on qntra. imho qntra is 1 of the few good things going atm.
adlai holds off bloviating further about the ring of nonnegatives before reviewing terminology
adlai: ~the~ "ring of nonnegatives" is the multiplicative structure of the whole numbers, including zero; each prime number (2, 3, etc) can be multiplied arbitrarily to yield other nonnegative rings, each entirely contained within the outermost one.
adlai: my impression is that a serious attempt to generate broken moduli that seem to be a product of two similarly-sized primes would be performed using a bunch of similarly-sized primes, bunched around the cuberoot of the target modulus bitlength
adlai: the best way of choosing distinct triples from such a set of ~consecutive~ primes, and why they have to be consecutive, is left as an exercise for the wreckers
Apocalyptic: adlai, if you did that you lose the plausible deniability
Apocalyptic: you have to keep the prime distribution of the p's and q's close to that of a random number of such bitlength
adlai: Apocalyptic: ok, so hypothetical 2nd person singular wants plausible deniability of quite an expensive attack? much easier to optimize attack efficiency by punting plausible deniability to the legal dept., and doing both mathematics and arithmetic efficiently.
Apocalyptic: well my method is quite efficient too, you lose only a few seconds per key at most
adlai: the method being one using only a single high-entropy ring, or alternating between a small set of high-entropy rings from likely-nonconsecutive units?
adlai: (using only a single ring will quickly cause the phuctor approach to have a noisy day)
adlai sees no tangible value in any one of the three hypothetical weakenings; much effort expended over ... what exactly? if you want people using broken cryptosystems, why not have the system itself be a broken one, instead of trying to worm weakening keys into a stronger system?
adlai will need to review some of the literature before considering practical ramifications of such idiocies
adlai: how did the ivory design sidestep that gnarl?
snsabot: Logged on 2020-02-11 16:27:30 adlai: will need to review some of the literature before considering practical ramifications of such idiocies
snsabot: (trilema) 2016-07-07 asciilifeform: re earlier, i never quite grasped why every 'classy' diddled crypto peddler has to move to geneva. just because nsa-operated crypto AG corp. is there ?
shinohai: lol read that earlier, was quite lulzy
adlai: looks like CADR and 3600 were as much products of 'junkyard wars' as the 'cardano' could've been, had the accelerator been properly glued to the floorboards
Apocalyptic: "The Post was able to read all of the documents, but the source of the material insisted that only excerpts be published." hopefully someone leaks the whole archive somewhere
BingoBoingo: May be an intentional leak. Thing doesn't seem to be doing anything for them anymore. Might as well advertise the existence of the seekrit blackmail files before everyone in them dies of old age.
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, no I meant why none of those 'selected' people thought it might be a good idea to upload the whole bunch after a while
Apocalyptic: if you don't need to sell physical products to select official dudes anymore, why bother
Apocalyptic: "Two companies purchased most of Crypto’s assets. The first, CyOne Security, was created as part of a management buyout and now sells security systems exclusively to the Swiss government."
Apocalyptic: " CyOne has more substantial links to the now-dissolved Crypto, including that the the new company’s chief executive held the same position at Crypto for nearly two decades of CIA ownership."
Apocalyptic: they didn't even bother changing key people
snsabot: (trilema) 2016-12-15 asciilifeform: iirc we had a 'crypto-lordosis' thread
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, to me that comment is quite clear. He fears it would damage BingoBoingo's standing in the "republic"
snsabot: (trilema) 2020-01-25 BingoBoingo: Give me one month to try to shed the alfisms, and make a hard outreach push to break the 'Qntra looks a whole like like BingoBoingo's other blog' appearance. I'll include a day by day in the weekly recaps, and if material improvement isn't showing in a month... I'll pledge to #ossasepia or #trilema-hanbot if they'll have me in their castles.
shinohai: The Stockholm syndrome too strong there. He'll pledge to ask diana_coman for permission to write before long.
shinohai: "I'll pledge to #ossasepia or #trilema-hanbot if they'll have me in their castles."
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btcinfobot: 2. Nature Will Castigate Those Who Don't Masticate - Puppy Out ...
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shinohai: ./ddg nature will castigate those who don't masticate
btcinfobot: Horace Fletcher (August 10, 1849 - 1919) was an American food faddist who earned the nickname "The Great Masticator", by arguing that food should be chewed thoroughly until liquefied before swallowing: "Nature will castigate those who don't masticate."He made elaborate justifications for his claim.
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btcinfobot: My goal is to help you better understand one of the simplest things that can be done to improve your overall health. Simply chew more. Even if you don't change what it is you are putting in your mouth, change what you do once it's in there and time will take care of the rest.
btcinfobot: 3. Chew on This: More Mastication Cuts Calorie Intake by 12 ...
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shinohai: nb.(uses drakma for requests) Will see what I can do about blank lines.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Is something going in with the pipe to your rack?
shinohai: I am convinced by now that most DC's are operated by troglodytes.