BingoBoingo: today did pick up one pair of shoes without steel toes, so can board aircraft
lobbes: what, tsa banning shoe classifications now?
BingoBoingo: Of all the chances to not take with an indeterminate machine, that seems like an easy one to avoid
BingoBoingo: plans to pick up real shoes in Montevideo once real shoes are earned
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Gotta earn boat ride to Buenos Aires.
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mircea_popescu: dude should be given a shotgun, free buckshot and free airplane fares.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-19 13:55 mircea_popescu: scroll down to where it says CTO : mike_c
ben_vulpes: why is this so surprising? he hasn't been involved in republican affairs since some time after wol wound down
ben_vulpes: the hyenas of the empire lurk, waiting to pick us off one by one if they can
ben_vulpes: these slime are un-ticking ~every box. and i guess this is unsurprising because socialism clouds memetic space until nobody even remembers, however many years later /what the fuck was so cool about bitcoin in the first place/
ben_vulpes: whole thing devolves into 'i r wrote software and then the bad thing happened because of bad people!'
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: look when there's actual even halfway sorta (((cryptocurrency))) involved, no responsible disclosure will ever happen
ben_vulpes: hilarious indictment of value of us citizen "information", "servers"
ben_vulpes: bullshit made up deliberately hamstrung cryptocurrencies it turns out are way better than anything dear usg has to offer
ben_vulpes: this is a hilarious curveball to throw civvies: "but i thought you were so virulently anti-altcoin?" "no man," long drag on cigarette, "you gotta realize that even the dipshittiest, hilariously self-critting piece of nonsense like the thing that self-advertised as usgcoin /is still a better buy than usg fictions like the 'roth ira'"
BingoBoingo: Still, if buying into the IRA/401k dream, gotta go to Roth
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> the hyenas of the empire lurk, waiting to pick us off one by one if they can << Hynenas of empires, slugs of ownbrain, particuly adorable yet hungry excretions from girl you've become fond of. Many hazards to republic
mircea_popescu: lol ben_vulpes . "the title of hyena of the empire and a cash prize of 500 botswanan pula is hereby bestowed upon joe schmoe."
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it's dangerous, that shit, esp in a country where the only style of maintenance is "is it broken y/n".
mircea_popescu: "Tether issuances have not been affected by this attack, and all Tether tokens remain fully backed by assets in the Tether reserve." lmao what TEH FUCK is this supposed to mean! they just announced that a) tether issuances have been affected and b) tether tokens no longer backed.
mircea_popescu: "oh you know what ? let's now STEAL THE HAVING STOLEN, too!!11". dorks.
mircea_popescu: "will provide further updates AS THEY become available". disavowal overdrive, what the fuck, THE UPDATES are the agent here ? they make themselves avaoilable like elliott's girlfriends ?
mircea_popescu: "rectify the situation in the best possible manner to everyone's benefit" in the sense of an everyone*, specially defined, niggers-fatties-and-jews=everyone* ?
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 07:13 ben_vulpes: this is a hilarious curveball to throw civvies: "but i thought you were so virulently anti-altcoin?" "no man," long drag on cigarette, "you gotta realize that even the dipshittiest, hilariously self-critting piece of nonsense like the thing that self-advertised as usgcoin /is still a better buy than usg fictions like the 'roth ira'"
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-21#1741576 << this being, of course, why the "no updates" thing is such a thorn in the side of the fiatist mind. if we DID updates, (NO MATTER WHICH!!!! even if we only did the reasonable ones!) then there'd be the sort of ~continuity~ that's the paramount ingredient in socialist reconstructions of the world, whereby "progress" and "i can't understand what those women of like... more than 20 yea
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 07:07 ben_vulpes: these slime are un-ticking ~every box. and i guess this is unsurprising because socialism clouds memetic space until nobody even remembers, however many years later /what the fuck was so cool about bitcoin in the first place/
mircea_popescu: rs ago EVEN LIVED, what do you mean they had it way better than me."
spyked: I'll get back to the "working cli/tui js browser" problem later, back to adalisp for now.
shinohai: Appears on r/buttcoin this morning someone sent 500k in btcrash to a segwit addy by accident.
shinohai: But I'm not sure how BCH could be sent to addy on another network in the first place.
mircea_popescu: correct statement is "dood sent bch to an address he didn't control that he came up with by copy/pasting something he didn't understant"
jurov: shinohai: yes, the addresses are the same, For Improved Headache.
jurov: also, there's "bitvoin gold" pump going too, apparently it's possible to exchange for BTC the same way as BCH, will be looking into it
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 13:51 shinohai: Appears on r/buttcoin this morning someone sent 500k in btcrash to a segwit addy by accident.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, just what we said was gonna happen ?
mircea_popescu: basically, they had all the lohtron ready and oiled, sadly no sheep went that way, trying to get as much as possible out of its functionings anyway ?
mircea_popescu: they're terrible at planning, if the constant strategic superiority saga wasn't suggesting it.
mircea_popescu: unbeaten kids can't plan, is the truth of the matter. they get too wrapped up in their narcissistic desires and then before you know it newton sits down to discover the theory of how right they are.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-12 21:08 rothbart: I've been trying to grok the segwit "theft" incentive - as the bounty grows, so does the PoW defending it - doesn't this keep the segwit outputs safe?
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 14:32 asciilifeform: 'the first SegWit address whose funds were recovered'
mircea_popescu: and can you believe the utter schmucktard still hasn't posted nude pics with appology scribbled in his own blood where his ballsac/eyes/etc used to be ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you have this very strange "man is entirely made of extrinsic motivation" outlook.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck does the sofa enter into any discussion of morals ?
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure which exact schmucktard we're talking of, there were a bunch.
mircea_popescu: original comment applies equally well to the whole agitcamp.
mircea_popescu: public or private, what fucking difference does it make that you were wrong ~privately~ ? still wrong, still gotta fix etc.
a111: Logged on 2014-08-16 21:38 asciilifeform: it went entirely like the tale of gorbachev and andropov
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 15:34 asciilifeform: incidentally, anybody bother lately to add up how much anyonecanspendolade in typical block ?
deedbot: cruciform voiced for 30 minutes.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ever see "daisies", 1966 ?
scriba: Logged on 2017-11-21: [14:05:15] <jurov> also, there's "bitvoin gold" pump going too, apparently it's possible to exchange for BTC the same way as BCH, will be looking into it
pete_dushenski: "Bitcoin Gold Core is a full Bitcoin Gold client and builds the backbone of the network. It offers high levels of security, privacy, and stability. However, it has fewer features and it takes a lot of space and memory.
deedbot: mircea_popescu has not rated cruciform.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 16:53 cruciform: people posted their unswept BTC privkeys into it; lost their BTC
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo it's dangerous, that shit, esp in a country where the only style of maintenance is "is it broken y/n". << Quiero sus escalara de winch, no. Quiero mis escalera de winch, si.
BingoBoingo: This happens. I see idea executed dangerously and poorly. Then "What if maintained and done better?" Often for many idiot things right means unreasonable, and then there is la escalara de winch.
ben_vulpes: semi-relatedly, i went to build an extension cord for my dryer, ~all the old women at the hardwarestoremegachain insisted that i simply could not do what i was going to do
ben_vulpes: leprosy cheese on the shit sandwich of american products is that the dryer power cable was not trivially replaceable, had to be extended.
ben_vulpes: 'trivially', did not want to start gentooing dryers as well
ben_vulpes: oh also receptacle is very high on the wall, extending made it a guaranteed fit, replacing woulda been tight borderline not-workable.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: and move dryer, and and and all sorts of unknowns, vs just buy receptacle while also buying pigtail.
ben_vulpes: well it's a rated pigtail, copper through and through
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 17:54 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: buy the plug, the actual-copper 30amp 4conductor cable, and make new cord, then attach to the internal bolts.
mircea_popescu: even "high quality" commercial couplings will heat up.
mod6: inline triples it 'eh
mod6: you were saying as much yesterday iirc
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 12:19 spyked:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737923 <-- also, spyked's adalisp is missing more fundamental things, such as closures. it's an early prototype, barely usable, but > 0. interning is of course considered, but not added yet. anyway, phf, consider the following point: built-in symbols (car, cons, etc.) still have to point *somewhere*, and that somewhere must not be addressed in a C-machine style! symbols should point to Lisp memory (via
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741280 << it doesn't, logotron necessarily has to interpret the nature of bytes (because the display layer is explicitly encoded). so the log collection and storage is 8 bit clean, but display makes assumpetions for rendering purpose. specifically i assume that log is utf8, but if utf8 decoder fails on line, i fall back to latin-1 (this is a traditional irc mechanism, details of which have been discussed)
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 14:57 asciilifeform: pretty sure his ( and others ) give back the bytes that were put in ( which imho is correct behaviour )
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741179 << you can just ignore the whole "string" question in first version, McCarthy's lisp used symbols instead of strings (that's why early nlp code, like eliza all come out as DOG SAID, HELLO) and the only operation you could do at some point was read and eq.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 12:21 spyked:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737956 <-- but lists are sequences too, and strings can be represented as lists. this becomes problematic when O(1) random accesses are needed. if/when that happens, I will have to implement arrays, but until then... strings are lists-of-characters.
phf: strings as lists of character is a schemist wankery anyway along the "our cpu uses church numerals!1"
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1740959 << i think i said that in logs before, but sexp is a poor data exchange format. read operation relies on current state of *readtable* and traditionally readtable is customized to specific operator needs. there's a default *readtable*, but it's too unconstrained to be used for deserialization of untrusted data, since it, for example, supports arbitrary code execution, circular structures, etc.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 01:15 mircea_popescu: let's also see if phf wants to add nething.
phf: we can of course specify our own subset of sexp that we use for interchange (along the lines of what
http://www.islisp.info/ did) but that comes with all the "specify our own interchange format" caveats
phf: (read-from-string "#.(format t \"hello, world~%\")")
phf: there's no such thing as a standard sexps. sure (foo "bar" 1.2) but #\abc or #x123 exist in the same realm as #.(...)
trinque: *read-eval* nil << not enough?
phf: trinque: the point is about exchange standard, rather than effect. we can also follow eran gatt's approach and specify a *safe-readtable*
phf: as they say in russia, флаг в руки
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 19:57 asciilifeform: phf: programmable readtables belong in the harem.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 20:07 asciilifeform: and noshit gotta specify own format. using readtable with #. in it is lunacy
phf: also probably want to not have #s because that requires a state of the environment
phf: you also want to have a custom symbol reader, because reading cl::foo is going to explode with a "locked package" error
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 19:56 phf: we can of course specify our own subset of sexp that we use for interchange (along the lines of what
http://www.islisp.info/ did) but that comes with all the "specify our own interchange format" caveats
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deedbot: whaack rated ben_vulpes 2 << friendly and helpful republican with knowledge of the sewers of the web
whaack:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-21#1741626 << From my cursory understanding of the segwit system there's no way to know if coins are in a segwit address until it is spent. It is effectively of the nature where you must know x in h(x) for the coins to be spent, so a miner cannot snag the coins until the segwitter tries to spend.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 15:34 asciilifeform: incidentally, anybody bother lately to add up how much anyonecanspendolade in typical block ?
ben_vulpes: > two attackers accessed a private GitHub coding site used by Uber software engineers and then used login credentials they obtained there to access data stored on an Amazon Web Services account that handled computing tasks for the company...Later, they emailed Uber asking for money.
ben_vulpes: > the founders series roadster will cost buyers a 250K down payment even though it's not coming for more than two years
ben_vulpes: fucking 'founders series' vehicle by a company trading on the public markets, give me a breka
BingoBoingo: has today acquired place to office through December $311 bezzel bucks and place to sleep $400 through December 26th.
BingoBoingo: Office comes with 24/7 access, lockable storage, and fiscal address acceptable for corporationing. All locations within 10 minute walk of building with rack.
ben_vulpes: facebook builds ad platforms that lets you target people based on skin color and income among a zillion other things, this is all great until people start advertising housing to whites
a111: Logged on 2015-02-24 03:47 asciilifeform: housing and discrimination etc << the bans on 'asking wrong question' were enthusiastically pushed by the real estate racket, who were all too happy to have price become the one and only legal selector
a111: Logged on 2014-05-09 19:48 asciilifeform: one other thing about housing in usa - that is rarely spoken of in the open literature - is that the americans switched to housing price as a means of putting the '60-70s race wars on hold
a111: Logged on 2014-05-09 19:51 asciilifeform: the reason why no experiment whatsoever with cheap housing en-masse is possible in usa, is that any locale with such becomes 'infested' overnight
mircea_popescu: recall when they started bussing kids to school lest you know, family ties survive or some such
trinque: heh, I was sent to a black elementary school under some kind of diversity program.
trinque: and look, I turned out fine
trinque: recalibrates his sarcasm emitter
trinque: I mean, they wanted me to have a cultural experience outside my own, and... did.
trinque: I even got almost expelled for racis
trinque: beat the fuck out of some kid that stole my recess hat, threw to friend
trinque: I guess in the movie, kid goes and runs to friend to get the hat
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> lifetime vaccine against equalism. << AHA, I ad to get vaccinated later at college for that
mircea_popescu: trinque the theory isn't that it actually does anything ; the idea is that the ~reason~ they thought they're doing it was pretty dumb.
mircea_popescu: the most amusing example being that in 1817, back when "miscegenation" was a serious offence, and in 2017, when "bbc" is kinda fashionable, the prevalence of black-white mixed kids born was ~same. cuz exogamy is a behaviour and society is a blather, guess which comes later.
mircea_popescu: trinque> I just beat his face in << better strategy. "bitch, by the time i'm done with you, your mom's gonna be begging to bring me my hat in her snatch every weekend after nine."
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 18:36 asciilifeform: in other noose, ffa elf on x86-64 with no inlinings and stripped .a , is ~50kB
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 19:38 phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741179 << you can just ignore the whole "string" question in first version, McCarthy's lisp used symbols instead of strings (that's why early nlp code, like eliza all come out as DOG SAID, HELLO) and the only operation you could do at some point was read and eq.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 20:03 phf: trinque: the point is about exchange standard, rather than effect. we can also follow eran gatt's approach and specify a *safe-readtable*
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 20:17 phf: tits
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 22:50 ben_vulpes: > the founders series roadster will cost buyers a 250K down payment even though it's not coming for more than two years
mircea_popescu: i tell the girls stories, you know, "to get a car in the 80s you had to deposit 80k lei in this so and so account, and then 8 to 18 months later they'd call you TO THE PLANT and you'd get, mostly, a car. of whatever color they had available and maybe with all the parts. there were no fucking showrooms or anything, people drove the car home 500 kms.
mircea_popescu: and you showed up like for the draft, paper in hand and specified comcast-style times. "between 8 and 17". people fucking camped at the plant.
mircea_popescu: proportionally 10x than the ru things, because smaller pop.
mircea_popescu: made to the tune of 1,5k a day or such, respectable altogether.
mircea_popescu: depends. 80s were insufferable (but, according to eg stanculescu, still better than ru). 70s were supposedly great. 60s ro was ahead of the post-war pack, but still... europe. even the french had malnutrition.
mircea_popescu: but take this forinstance : thorouyghly hated politician active these days MADE his own fucking ARO (70s romanian SUV). OUT OF PARTS. WHICH HE BOUGTH.
mircea_popescu: people did that sort of thing, back then. and all the fuckbook tards who paint the dude (rightfully or not, i don't give a shit) as the summum malum never as much as put together a fucking lego box.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cuz head of the reds, ie, vaguely left-centrists. but rather, because somewhat opposite to usg party.
mircea_popescu: then the romanians added 10% hp / 10% speed etc five years later. then added 15% more five years later. and so on
mircea_popescu: eventually late 70s incarnations looked exactly like the early nissan suvs. of the 90s.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 23:05 BingoBoingo has today acquired place to office through December $311 bezzel bucks and place to sleep $400 through December 26th.
BingoBoingo: Just about, in a hostel, during high tourist season.
BingoBoingo: Sometime late february to March price goes down substantially
mircea_popescu: not bad start. find a shared apt deal among the students after, will be cheaper in the sense of paying for itself via roommates.
mircea_popescu: "rent is 100 but i don't have to spend 150 to get language lessons, o noes, im 50 in the green here"
BingoBoingo: Right. This arrangement comes with roommates through accident of having booked bed at same place. Also comes with breakfast.
BingoBoingo: Next nearest place with similar setup is on other side of Pocitos neightborhood, while this one is across street and around block from World Trade Center
BingoBoingo: The co working space is a block still further. The mall is a block to the north. The Pocitos and Buceo playas are equidistant.
mircea_popescu: so i go into shop that has you know, coffee toaster and a buncha nuts etc, and go "camarron ?" and the woman looks at me befuddled, so i'm like "semillas de camarron!" and she's eyeing me like wtf then realises. "maranon ?"
BingoBoingo: Anyways, explaining to normal ordinary people in meatspace who Mircea Popescu is, is surprisingly simple.
mircea_popescu: oh, in other lulz : costa rica failed to send anyone to miss universe competition (some indian midget won in china). on the basis of observed data... this is correct.
BingoBoingo: "He's a Romanian living in Costa Rica" "Why? Because he can. You would if you could too."
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo *you would if you could import the fresh tuna.
BingoBoingo: "How did he make his money?" "Communism fell, there was money running porn studios in the 1990's, and now he alternately builds and unbuilds empires"
mircea_popescu: bathroom in most us places works as dark room, screw in red light plug the window if it exists.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform used to be reactives were expensive. no more. proper bath, listen to me.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what reasoning would impel a sane fellow to use fucking polaroids auto-paper, when a bit of film would have about 9k x resolution ?
mircea_popescu: if you're gonna do it like this, why not use a fridge.
mircea_popescu: roll some rexona on the chip and throw it against the wall.
mircea_popescu: (all the proposed definitions are at least somewhat reasonable)
mircea_popescu: (to keep form it has to be always feminine anyway, so this works surprisingly well)
BingoBoingo: to sober time, will likely blog update progress upon return
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cut up cardboard, coupla inches larger than window, duct-tape on.
mircea_popescu: holy shit turns out i know a lot about field developing.
mircea_popescu: ~only utility for those is "baby's first naked pic" back when they didn't shave, didn't suck cock and didn't habitually strip naked in company.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-22 01:24 asciilifeform picks 'Se referă la o femeie enervantă care pune prea multe întrebări, deşi nu va înţelege niciodată vreun răspuns.'
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BingoBoingo: OMG Crashing, this is bullish for SegCrash
