mod6: Lords and Laides of The Most Serene Republic: I'd like to announce that in addition to looking for a new manager for Pizarro, we are also looking someone to fill the role of Treasurer. Please let us know if interested in either role. Thanks!
mod6: Lords and Ladies of The Most Serene Republic: The Bitcoin Foundation presents - The State Of Bitcoin Address for June: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-July/000303.html
asciilifeform: speaking of dar-al-islam, asciilifeform had nfi, but the nao-defunkt republic of ichkeria had perhaps the most aggressively oddball national anthem : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXNI0v3o6K0
mircea_popescu: stone age tribe unknown to mankind, lost in the endless wastes of today's "Sakha Republic" and stone age tribe unknown to mankind, lost in the guarani lands in south america all agree, 3+5 = 11.
mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Republic, if anyone has any updates or changes to the list of Advertised Republican Nodes, please let me know as soon as possible. Thanks in advance.
PeterL: speaking of eaten comments, ben_vulpes I tried to put a comment on http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system but that appears to have been eaten as well
asciilifeform: Mocky: imho the best intro text re vtronics is still ben_vulpes's , http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system
mircea_popescu: aging in the republic, contrarywise, is the process whereby the cardinal of L and the length of some Ts shrinks, so as to remove as many Ts and T elements as possible.
mircea_popescu: by now they cost more in storage than they cost to acquire, even though patriotic republicans' have been eating the cost for us.
asciilifeform: i mean this is one possible approach, when encountering a mine field that the current republicans + slavegurlz can't clear, to say 'eh it dun need clearing'
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, if you represent the republic, do me a favour and hire a half dozen strippers to be mostly naked, will you.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 23:54 danielpbarron: they have some app exibitors can use to promote where they'll be and what they are serving (i reserved a vendor campsite specifically for the purpose of provoking conversation about the Bible) -- i also mention in my "profile" that i'm a lord in the most serene republic of Bitcoin, which mysteriously gets removed. I add it again, removed again. They apparently don't mind a religious "cult" but not
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> "The incident came as France remains under a state of emergency declared after the 2015 Paris terrorist attacks. << http://qntra.net/2016/02/nth-french-republic-officially-dumps-freedom/ And http://qntra.net/2016/05/nth-french-republic-raids-local-google-outpost/
lobbes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-5-31#366191 << You know, I was still going to rate you positively on the basis of your service to the republic, but then I thought "why?". You decide that on your way out the door you'll try and casually attack my reputation on the basis of... what exactly? Yeah, I made those comments. But then I sat, thought, came to my senses, left kako to rot, joined #t, built an auction bot, built an archive process, lea
mod6: Lords and Ladies of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation presents The State of Bitcoin Address : http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-June/000301.html
mircea_popescu: note that i was talking to jurov. considering he's intelligent and seems maybe interested (hard to tell, he's so quiet), and considering he's not currently doing anything, the marginal cost in republican terms is 0.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819444 << and that's exactly the problem -- he was participating EARNESTLY. he actually tried to do well, and had the wherewithal to do well. he was, if you will, a republican lost in empire.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/republican-thesaurus/ << revised, added aspie and the zone. comments as always welcome. rhymes cost extra.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 19:46 spyked: mircea_popescu, it's good timing, since I've been doing some reading ircbot code and comparing with my own implementation. I've actually been contemplating http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-26#1786288 and rolling my own was not a wholly useless endeavour, i.e. http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/#selection-322.0-322.5 so I'll document the whole thing on the blog.
mircea_popescu: but removing the perceived positive value of fit (such as, by publicly burning "consensus" as in the imperial facade, as the republic has done) seems a large step in the right direction.
BingoBoingo: It could do with more links to "how to" pages including the most current Republican GPG setup guide
ben_vulpes: on a scale of useless bullshit to practical for republican shared hosting, how useless are cgroups?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 19:22 mircea_popescu: lobbes, sure ; though it's iffier there, in that caesar and then espeically augustus actually attempted a restart of the proper republic out of the ashes of the shit it had ended up in. caesar in this sense is the polar opposite of lincoln, ie, attempted to manipulate the overwhelming pantsuit into the extinction-or-sanity dilemma, rather than being manipulated by the underwhelming pantsuit into internecine warfare.
mircea_popescu: lobbes, sure ; though it's iffier there, in that caesar and then espeically augustus actually attempted a restart of the proper republic out of the ashes of the shit it had ended up in. caesar in this sense is the polar opposite of lincoln, ie, attempted to manipulate the overwhelming pantsuit into the extinction-or-sanity dilemma, rather than being manipulated by the underwhelming pantsuit into internecine warfare.
mircea_popescu: what gpg tried to do is somehow kludge a whole working republic into their early prototype key "ecosystem". it didn't work in practice, but that aside, it's not actually useful.
ben_vulpes: i'm half of a mind to take offense at the implication i'd impose email on anybody in the republic
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is the currency of the most serene republic, the world's only sovereign.
ben_vulpes: and lo, isn't it interesting that as the barrier for lordship goes up and the bar for defrocking goes down, the pantsuit imitate to their detriment while the republic purges dross?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-06 15:58 mircea_popescu: i basically hope we keep losing it. seems the more indermeddling, the stronger the republic.
mircea_popescu: i basically hope we keep losing it. seems the more indermeddling, the stronger the republic.
mircea_popescu: mpex offered options for a long, long time, but mostly because the nascent republic required its currency protected in those early days ; back when i was personaly large enough to maintain some vague semblance of discipline in the marketplace singlehandedly. it's meanwhile wel loutgrown me and so...
phf: mircea_popescu: well, we have examples of diana_coman etc. who manages to do republican work while "raising a baby and having a day time job". presumably this shit can somehow be scheduled and managed better, i.e. the fact that those things even need to be communicated is an organizational failure. some progress could be made.
mod6: Lords and Ladies of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation presenets the STATE OF BITCOIN ADDRESS for the month of April, 2018: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-May/000299.html
mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-April/000298.html << Lords & Ladies of The Most Serene Republic, enclosed is a defect I found in existing TRB, it's analysis, and fix.
diana_coman: did anyone publish a compilation recipe for adacore's gnat on republican gentoo? searching the logs returned only various troubles and otherwise mod6's attempt as most recent from what I can tell: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685215
mircea_popescu: basically, people whose heads work have the "choice" such as it is : republic, or man-alone.
trinque: ckang: http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system << read up
mircea_popescu: sandi3, no, really, "You have reached the public forum of The Most Serene Republic, a terrorist organisation dedicated to the creation of a safe space for the elites to productively defect to, leaving the pantsuit stranded behind."
lobbes: It is an honor to receive this privilege. I will continue to position my feet to support well-placed strikes to the Inca with the katana the Republic has helped me to sharpen >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1802081
mircea_popescu: it all comes down to WHAT is the special purpose. mind that the direction the bitcoin node os is taking is towards ~special purpose hardware~. this is very fucking different, whether you have special purpose hardware run by general purpose osen, or whether you have ibm at clone consumershit emulated into republican sanity by usg's flaour of special purpose os.
deedbot: mod6 updated rating of mircea_popescu from 6 to 6 << Met IRL. MPEx, Trilema, S.NSA, S.MG: Father of The Most Serene Republic.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, tmsr, the most serene republic, this thing. gossipd, lessee.... there's http://trilema.com/2016/gossipd-design-document/ and http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=gossipd and not much else. it's vaporware for now.
mircea_popescu: phf, there's been this ancient grudge between "mysql people" and "php people" in the following sense : in the 90s, the "foss community" consisted of a sad indeology-lite republic that still had enough people to get shit done. they needed an egine for their "revolution" which was to be centered around "the web", a shoddy, ill conceived can of mostly "make it easy for people to participate AND IT WILL TAKE OVER THE WORLD [of pe
BingoBoingo: http://trilema.com/2016/cia-factbook-the-most-serene-republic/ << Maybe the people and society section needs updating? Maybe it doesn't? Glories of no formal surveys!
trinque: I was gonna link http://trilema.com/2016/cia-factbook-the-most-serene-republic/
asciilifeform: cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system << likbez
lobbes: I certainly wasn't planning on it being a long-term solution, but I see what you mean. Plus, if I'm burning time anyways on this I may as well just learn some lisp and use the trinquebot. Have an actual republican item out of the effort rather than another pile of stapled dildos >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1796013
mircea_popescu: course nerdy girls possibly have a better chance of making a future for themselves in the republic, but it's not that cut and dried.
mircea_popescu: MDude things you've done is a point of interest. places you've been... unless you have naked chicks in the streets of the czech republic / parks of buenos aires / dunes of egypt etc, no.
trinque: asciilifeform: in general you're probably right, though in general not most are persistent enough to join the republic.
mircea_popescu: * mircea_popescu has changed the topic to: You have reached the public forum of The Most Serene Republic, a terrorist organisation dedicated to the creation of a safe space for the elites to productively defect to, leaving the pantsuit stranded behind. If you'd like to help see http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/ . This channel is logged.
spyked: mircea_popescu, it's good timing, since I've been doing some reading ircbot code and comparing with my own implementation. I've actually been contemplating http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-26#1786288 and rolling my own was not a wholly useless endeavour, i.e. http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/#selection-322.0-322.5 so I'll document the whole thing on the blog.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the question of lisp standardization, soon to be visited upon our fair republic, will be one helluva burning flame.
mod6: Lords and Ladies of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation presents The State of Bitcoin Address for the month of March: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-April/000294.html
mircea_popescu: the whole point, not just of the "write a v" task, but of the republic altogether, is to make this sort of non-thinking you're going for both ridiculous and impossible.
mod6: Lords and Ladies of the Republic, here's my "blog" post on the UTF-8 character found in genesis.vpatch, please review:
a111: Logged on 2018-03-08 16:13 mircea_popescu: (this team-up disparity, incidentally, can readily be explained in republican terms ; it all revolves around http://trilema.com/2017/the-practical-costs-of-hallucinated-freedom/ -- specifically, thinking people need a much larger sunken cost to evaluate their choices and come to the correct conclusion they got none. this is a lot more evident to idiots. as this disparity flows from the definitions of terms...)
mircea_popescu: (this team-up disparity, incidentally, can readily be explained in republican terms ; it all revolves around http://trilema.com/2017/the-practical-costs-of-hallucinated-freedom/ -- specifically, thinking people need a much larger sunken cost to evaluate their choices and come to the correct conclusion they got none. this is a lot more evident to idiots. as this disparity flows from the definitions of terms...)
lobbes: m going to be a proper Lord of the Republic, I need to be able to wield the most fundamental of Republican tools
mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation presents The State of Bitcoin Address for February: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-March/000292.html
ben_vulpes: that box is hosting both qntra and pizarro's web presence, and then on top of that it's splitting a 1u with another piece of hardware (right BingoBoingo ?), so something hilarious like .003 btc this month? i was planning to host it as a service to the republic tbh, especially since the machine it's on is running pizarro's website as well
mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation - State of Bitcoin Address will be delayed maybe a few days -- however it will be published by March 5th, regardless.
pinochle: long time log eater, taking steps a la http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/
a111: Logged on 2018-02-23 16:03 BingoBoingo: One benefit of prolongued Republican exposure: Every now and then you come across a coy newsy thing that dances around a fact, when the fact really should have been the headline.
BingoBoingo: One benefit of prolongued Republican exposure: Every now and then you come across a coy newsy thing that dances around a fact, when the fact really should have been the headline.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-18 05:57 trinque: probably plenty of ways to improve their process from here, yet the thing was dead in the water, republic declared dead without hosting, and some folks came together against that.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 19:15 mod6: Upon the failure of bbisp, and Mr. Popescu's leaving TMSR, The Bitcoin Foundation, in a last-ditch effort to save the ISventure and the Republic (http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-13#1783471), has chosen to try to determine how / if it can do this without any outside interference.
trinque: probably plenty of ways to improve their process from here, yet the thing was dead in the water, republic declared dead without hosting, and some folks came together against that.
hanbot: trinque i'm not asking to be told anything. i'm asking why there were "discussions" over the course of several days that haven't been made public. this isn't to gripe at anyone, this is an attempt to preserve what's possibly the most useful tool of the republic, i.e. logging.
mod6: Upon the failure of bbisp, and Mr. Popescu's leaving TMSR, The Bitcoin Foundation, in a last-ditch effort to save the ISventure and the Republic (http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-13#1783471), has chosen to try to determine how / if it can do this without any outside interference.
mircea_popescu: whoa, so it turns out that besides http://trilema.com/2016/republican-thesaurus-with-vocabulary-and-dictionary there actually existed all along a http://trilema.com/2017/the-new-and-improved-republican-glossaurus/ !
BingoBoingo: As I put this post togther the one redeeming though that keeps floating to the top of my mind is that this place is small enough that if The Republic is going to start subjugating, this is a rather small and defenseless sandbox to practice on.
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/07/photos-from-a-republican-rack/ << Bingo Blog - Photos From A Republican Rack
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/09/preet-reduced-to-panhandling-disc-jockey-again-demonstrating-costs-of-opposing-republic/ << Qntra - Preet Reduced To Panhandling Disc Jockey, Again Demonstrating Costs Of Opposing Republic
phf: ben_vulpes: republican matters is like reading leaves, i'm trying to figure out dimensions and who's sending what first. fwiw shipping a rack full (as opposed to ascii's original "2 machines") is going to run up the bill just on the oversized charges with airline
asciilifeform: xahlee: intro reading -- http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/
BingoBoingo: <trinque> BingoBoingo: when do you anticipate having a final number for 1U of space, and when do you plan on beginning to rack customer machines? << I am putting out solicitations for hardware again to the local shops today. Will squeeze in a pricing post today for the Republic's consideration.
mod6: <+BingoBoingo> Attention Lords And Ladies of The Republic: You may add 161.0.121.253 to your hosts file as Qntra.net << congrats BingoBoingo!
BingoBoingo: Attention Lords And Ladies of The Republic: You may add 161.0.121.253 to your hosts file as Qntra.net
mod6: Lords and Ladies of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation presents The State of Bitcoin Addresshttp://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-February/000288.html
mp_en_viaje: heck, whole republic is nigh on predicated on it, "observe item almost work, invite it to genesis".
mod6: Lords and Ladies of The Most Serene Republic, I present to you a pre-patched *EXPERIMENTAL* version of my vtron (99993), along with a patch to show changes from V (99994): http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-January/000287.html
mod6: Lords and Ladies of The Most Serene Republic: Please let me know if you have any updates for your Advertised Republican Nodes to conclude the month of January.
ben_vulpes: there's also http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system
mod6: I'd like to see the Republic continue to expand the number of trb nodes we have available this year. There are activities currently afoot that immensly support that. Getting FFA vetted and used as a base lib really will help get the ball rolling for any proposed trbi.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776478 << in the "journal of negative results", china thing went ~nowhere, i had some 6-7 notional meatsacks try to use irc, one managed to reg a key and then fell off the map; now waiting for bisp to come online to host on republican terms
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> here's one example : he calls it "the most serene republic of bitcoin", which was the style at the time. but in practice we omit the bitcoin part most often than not don't we. << If I recall there was a moment somewhere involving miner retardation where there was a discussion of the necessary subordination of Bitcoin to the Republic. Bitcoin's need of a republic is not necessarily reciprocated and all.
mircea_popescu: here's one example : he calls it "the most serene republic of bitcoin", which was the style at the time. but in practice we omit the bitcoin part most often than not don't we.
asciilifeform: http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system << item
mircea_popescu: !!rate nanotube -1 took the blue pill at some point prior to the republic, chasing the tenure dream somewhere lost in the imperial wastes.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 07:12 mircea_popescu: tsk. the republic uses v, http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system
mircea_popescu: tsk. the republic uses v, http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system
mircea_popescu: notreally ; republic mostly despises the sv-powered "tech" ; you'll find pmarca's notion of "the web" doesn't carry much water, or interest, among actually competent computer folk.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-13 21:52 mod6: Lords and Ladies of The Most Serene Republic, I have created a blog post outlining the behavior changes in 99993. Please take a look and consider these changes. Let me know if you have any comments or questions! Thanks in advance. http://www.mod6.net/2018/99993/99993-changes.html
shinohai: mod6: Butterin is close to full mental collapse. I'll bet the Republic could troll him into: http://archive.is/DiPMq
mod6: Lords and Ladies of The Most Serene Republic, I have created a blog post outlining the behavior changes in 99993. Please take a look and consider these changes. Let me know if you have any comments or questions! Thanks in advance. http://www.mod6.net/2018/99993/99993-changes.html
BingoBoingo: Hopefully the next one has the sense to defect to the republic before thumbing nose at old handlers
shinohai: http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/#selection-155.2-159.18
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/ << reviewed this yet again, mostly to include / fix ben_vulpes links and some changes to structure (merged irc bot, v impl and following the guides (which was in red before?!) all into section V, orange.)
diana_coman: Swant, the tl;dr is in the chan's topic, no? Topic for #trilema is: You have reached The Most Serene Republic, the world's only sovereign.
mircea_popescu: get a grip man, you have this strange reactive mr hyde portion, thoroughly anxiety driven, as if you honestly believe, with the deep fiber of your 5yo being, that whenever something happens chulhu will come fuck your plushies. one can almost measure the velocity of republic on the basis of alf-insanity-odometer as measured from the logs, are you aware ? correlate of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1763554 is directly above.
ben_vulpes: and familiarize yourself with v ( http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system ), read logs for six months...
BingoBoingo: Seriously, this is politically controversial here, how QUAINT! http://www.republica.com.uy/rossi-defendio-la-construccion-de-una-terminal-de-pasajeros-en-la-zona-del-dique-maua/
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> why the fuck. everything is better with explosions ? << Well, what's the next Republican holiday? Gotta challenge the Latino Christmasen.
mircea_popescu: ah, nm, it was apparently in http://trilema.com/2016/cia-factbook-the-most-serene-republic/#footnote_2_68314
mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation presents The State of Bitcoin Address: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-January/000285.html
zineKing: Not much might be written by him, but he is the founder.. Therefore he should be respected, just like I believe the founder of The Most Serene Republic ought to be respected.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-12 16:48 mircea_popescu: well, reading through what ? #trilema is the forum of the most serene republic, a terrorist organisation dedicated to the dissolution of all fiat sovereigns and the permanent barring of such nonsense in the future.
mod6: im at ~500351 -- getting close to full-sync. hoping to get it there so can have mine on the republican list. will let you know how it goes with 'aggression'
mircea_popescu: under the authority of the republic ; not trying to enact selves out of the well threadbare wizard cloak of satoshi.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-12 16:48 mircea_popescu: well, reading through what ? #trilema is the forum of the most serene republic, a terrorist organisation dedicated to the dissolution of all fiat sovereigns and the permanent barring of such nonsense in the future.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-12 16:48 mircea_popescu: well, reading through what ? #trilema is the forum of the most serene republic, a terrorist organisation dedicated to the dissolution of all fiat sovereigns and the permanent barring of such nonsense in the future.
BingoBoingo probably ought to bake a blog post on the past week's learnings por otro gingos de la republica
mircea_popescu: lmao watching BingoBoingo spanish is amusing. los republica ? how many of it are there!
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 15:21 danielpbarron: glad i replaced them but to be perfectly honest i'd have been better off keeping both the bitcoin spent while also buying the re-up. I justify it as a hedge against possible bitcoin price decrease and as a public service for the republic
BingoBoingo: What kind of hardware are you building those with? As ISP develops would be nice to know what a republican box builder is offering.
esthlos: mircea_popescu: alright. I've been thinking of writing a v implementation following http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/
a111: Logged on 2017-12-01 21:17 mod6: ben_vulpes: you may want to update the link to my V in this blog post (http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system) as it's old. This is the latest: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-March/000260.html
a111: Logged on 2017-12-16 20:27 PeterL: http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system was the page where I went to the ml with the dead links, ben_vulpes maybe that should be updated?
PeterL: http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system was the page where I went to the ml with the dead links, ben_vulpes maybe that should be updated?
mircea_popescu: the whole "reward intelligence", ie the positive republican value, is entirely unheard of in empire lands
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/the-new-and-improved-republican-glossaurus/ << updated, for great justice. comments welcome.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-02#1745676 << if you mean http://trilema.com/2016/btmsr-block-cipher-competition/ the point of it was specifically so as to have a tmsr item to put into http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-18#1726131 ; as that failed and we decided to go with serpent, the only possible closure to that offer is that the republic failed to deliver.
mircea_popescu: he takes the sentence "i am rich here as i'd be anywhere ; and i can't buy anything for it here unlike anywhere else" and turns it into "i am rich here because usg made me rich ; and i can't buy anything here or anywhere else because non-usg". whether he verbalizes that "non-usg" as "the most serene republic" or "black people" or "islam" or "patriarchy" or what have you, it's still what it is.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: item XI in http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic refers to i suspect an unrenumbered X
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/ << updated. including delicious V<sup>v</sup> itam.
mod6: ben_vulpes: you may want to update the link to my V in this blog post (http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system) as it's old. This is the latest: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-March/000260.html
mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation's STATE OF BITCOIN ADDRESS: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-December/000278.html
mquander: oh hi. i don't know much about this channel/project/republic, i joined because it got a shoutout in my RSS (http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1762) so i came to see what's up
mircea_popescu: and turn it as i might, i can't separate the former from the hallucination of self-determination. rural "king of the world" in decayed to death sicily, dying british empire, romania throughout and recently the us cultural space imagines himself... in a position to... MAKE DECISIONS!!! has options! may at his leisure obey republic or not. and so on.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-24 14:14 mircea_popescu: and speaking of ^, does http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/ need revising ?
mircea_popescu: and speaking of ^, does http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/ need revising ?
Ingolfr_Arnarson: I was trying to find information on gossipd, followed the 'how to participate in the affairst of the republic' link on the channel automatic text you get when you enter and reached the gossipd design document.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> trinque better idea is that we have to figure out what boards/etc we're buying. a "standard box of the republic". << AHA, this is why cost of dedi box hosting not yet spec'd
mircea_popescu: other lulz, same source : https://blog.josefsson.org/2017/08/03/vikings-d16-server-first-impressions/ (apparently there's an entire kanzure 's wanker club dedicated to republican hosting ; vikings.net and whatnot. doesn't seem to be actually working though, but i did join their irc, see what happens.
mircea_popescu: that final "all the better" being the republic part. they failed to construct this system whereby extreme violence applied to everyone else was a net positive, in and of itself, for no other reason.
mircea_popescu: well, reading through what ? #trilema is the forum of the most serene republic, a terrorist organisation dedicated to the dissolution of all fiat sovereigns and the permanent barring of such nonsense in the future.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735842 << substantially different. you could have also won. they -- CAN NOT. it's not "oh, i have a choice between republic and mundane life". there is no possible result from mundane life.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 18:32 mircea_popescu: ang-st there's a matter of scope here, your => 4652.00 (total en moyenne mensuelle) is 2/3 or so of the random advance pushed out to one purveyor of eventual tmsr.isp. the republic is indeed mighty in this sense ; meanwhile there's also an ideological rub, the republic is dedicatedly elitist whereas from what i see the whole point of this tetaneutral thing is to support specifically those-who-should-not-be-permitted-online,
mircea_popescu: ang-st there's a matter of scope here, your => 4652.00 (total en moyenne mensuelle) is 2/3 or so of the random advance pushed out to one purveyor of eventual tmsr.isp. the republic is indeed mighty in this sense ; meanwhile there's also an ideological rub, the republic is dedicatedly elitist whereas from what i see the whole point of this tetaneutral thing is to support specifically those-who-should-not-be-permitted-online,
mircea_popescu was rather toying with the idea of standarizing ben_vulpes 's identifier thing across teh republic.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-08 03:37 mod6: Mr. Popescu, Lords, and General Assembly: Today, I'd like to take a moment to observe and congratulate The Most Serene Republic on it's Third Independence Day!
a111: Logged on 2017-11-08 03:37 mod6: Mr. Popescu, Lords, and General Assembly: Today, I'd like to take a moment to observe and congratulate The Most Serene Republic on it's Third Independence Day!
mod6: Mr. Popescu, Lords, and General Assembly: Today, I'd like to take a moment to observe and congratulate The Most Serene Republic on it's Third Independence Day!
mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation's: State of Bitcoin Address: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-November/000277.html
mircea_popescu: this is exactly the idiotic "make it count" argument. and it should be obvious that ALL IT DOES is a) actually enact the "less important" enemy nonsense, such as "jaywalking laws" and b) fundamentally corrupt the republican opposition, because if you won't naturally jaywalk, hoiw would you naturally shoot obama in the face ? one needs the other, like tree needs roots.
mircea_popescu: incidentally re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-18#1726309 : i suppose it's obvious that teh republic, between wot, forum and the new deedbot beats silicon valley way the fuck out of the water. what angel list, what y combinator, why would i, or any thinking man, bother.
mircea_popescu: anyway, here's the proposal : be it proposed that it is actually cheaper to explain to the brighter among the reality winners what exactly they never learned of history and theory, so that they renounce on their own power the assorted bundle of idiocy and sheer nonsense that constitutes the difference between republican and pantsuit or ultrapantsuit ideology,
mircea_popescu: "there will be a moscow exhibition of arts by over 100 sculptors and painters of the soviet republics. these were executed over the past five years."
a111: Logged on 2017-09-29 23:46 mircea_popescu: somehow, and i have yuet to pierce this mystery, people on the side of pantsuit always assume they own the world, natively. whereas people on the side of the republic, at least verbally, always assume the opposite, and start derping about how i've to prove shit and so on.
trinque: in the longstanding tradition of republican payments, deedbot thanks you for your donation. or put more kindly, I don't want to keep a list of names and people's addresses; deposit amounts are meant to identify a person only at a point in time.
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Qntra is down until The Republic has one or more ISP providers, latest hoster commited mortal sin of using USG.MS.EmailProvider
BingoBoingo did swab thing back in pre-Republican before time when more bold than paranoid, supposedly has polyorphism. Responded with "Fuck you genes, I do what I want" ran until
mircea_popescu: somehow, and i have yuet to pierce this mystery, people on the side of pantsuit always assume they own the world, natively. whereas people on the side of the republic, at least verbally, always assume the opposite, and start derping about how i've to prove shit and so on.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/09/preet-reduced-to-panhandling-disc-jockey-again-demonstrating-costs-of-opposing-republic/ << Qntra - Preet Reduced To Panhandling Disc Jockey, Again Demonstrating Costs Of Opposing Republic
mircea_popescu: and in other "Did we ever do"s https://20805.blogspot.com/2016/08/bitcoin-most-serene-republic.html
mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation presents: The State of Bitcoin Address: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-September/000272.html
mircea_popescu: there may not be such a thing as the lincoln-roosevelt republic, and an end to life on earth is not sufficient cause to maintain it.
mircea_popescu: certainly. but no, sometyhing, anything. "in the past nine years while the republic choked the remnants of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-10#1696459 we at the soviet biolabs have a) deployed ten thousand chips in the back yard resulting in three different bactins ; and have this microscope that spit out 10k gifs.
shinohai thinks "Phucked" might be an honourable mention for http://trilema.com/2017/the-new-and-improved-republican-glossaurus/
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-new-and-improved-republican-glossaurus/ << Trilema - The New and Improved Republican Glossaurus
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/the-new-and-improved-republican-glossaurus/ << if anyone wanna either contribute items or ask for items to be included lemme know.
mircea_popescu: mod6 done : http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/#selection-115.56-119.1 ; though the header could prolly go to "The Real Bitcoin public node list" or something.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 16:54 mircea_popescu: hmm, not putting it in topic, putting it in http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/ once i get that thing online again.
mircea_popescu: hmm, not putting it in topic, putting it in http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/ once i get that thing online again.
mircea_popescu: it's important to find out, after all most fiat unis/tech corps/whatever actually to this day harbor the managerial delusion that they can in fact compete with the republic on a flesh basis.
mircea_popescu: fortunately, there's no kako-nubbins party to argue that hey, as btc price is chiefly supported by the republic, which has a lot to do with mp, it is therefore mp's job to idemnify "the users" as imagined by kako-nubbins for "this loss" resulting from his you know, unauthorized use of resources for purposes not priorly reported to the almightyly important kako-nubbins party!
mircea_popescu: in other words, the republican model significantly reduces costs and, incredibly enough, introduces a new revenue stream.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-04 06:37 mircea_popescu: what the shit is this pile of batshit insane nonsense even supposed to mean, besides "o shit, the republic is taking over, quick! pretend like we';re doing soemthing"
mircea_popescu: what the shit is this pile of batshit insane nonsense even supposed to mean, besides "o shit, the republic is taking over, quick! pretend like we';re doing soemthing"
mircea_popescu: also, funny item re hetzner : back in 2014, there was a large demonstration in novosibirsk in favour of you know, russia losing siberia. the russian govt pressured everyone to not discuss the matter, including bbc. the ukrainians at the time didn't feel inclined to comply, so hetzner took glavcom.ua and others offline, because hey, unlicensed republic.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 00:03 mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation's ``State Of Bitcoin Address'': http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-August/000270.html
mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation's ``State Of Bitcoin Address'': http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-August/000270.html
a111: Logged on 2014-01-14 10:51 mircea_popescu: and also my country, teh most serene republic of bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: (and yes, latin philosophy of the time was 60% by mass "women, unbridled, will doom the republic". hence ~porcius~ cato for instance.)
mircea_popescu: "at the time (october 2006) i was spending a lot of time jacking off to stuff i downloaded from the piratebay and i saw their hilariously republican blog ; so i figured... hey, i'm an american and therefore worse that a shitstain in a paki's undershorts. how could i possibly try and run off with as much of that as possible to sell to my nigger masters for some mountain dew ???"
mircea_popescu: let's wonder whether the most serene republic can actuallty dictate us policy and let's not wonder whether our "groups" of 3 idiots including the speaker and the "leader" are worth the mention. hurr durr and gtfo already.
mircea_popescu: why do you expect you'd be invested in persistence ? and why is it not obvious, "getting my kids (ie, specified moo moos) to stay interested in republic persistently is extraordinary pain for no gain"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1687960 << hey, smartass dood too busy importantly nosebreathing about "how he doesn't like manele" / "evil banana republic" instead of queuing up in the recruitment strip clubs.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-19 18:59 mircea_popescu: some actual review and by-hand rewrite of those roots would actually benefit the republic immensely.
mircea_popescu: some actual review and by-hand rewrite of those roots would actually benefit the republic immensely.
mircea_popescu: yes, the ample towers and bridges of the most serene republic's capitol may take a while to mentally unwrap.
asciilifeform: floog: see also http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system .
mircea_popescu: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2016/02/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system.html
BingoBoingo: Then, maybe http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/
shinohai: Well http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/ should explain the goal of this chan
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is more complicated. original church was very much republic, much like original us presidency. then the socialistards got roosevelt in and broke it. similarily to how empire meant something, before napoleon.
mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation Presents: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-July/000268.html
mircea_popescu: Framedragger see now you're being useful. because the republican notion of "those people" is gendercomits for comments.
mircea_popescu: obviously not. just, you realise, it's a republican artefact, "1st pcap of an early gossipd attempt"
mod6: sina: there's a snippet of its use in asciilifeform's V, detailed in ben_vulpes's blog: http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system
asciilifeform: erlehmann: or at least read ben_vulpes's classic article re subj, http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system
trinque: the republic's forum is not "I will posture on whichever topics don't make me uncomfortable"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you'll note that the losers took the republican position, imaginary higher ground, bullshit like that
ben_vulpes: http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system
asciilifeform: it was tricky enough to make 'republican rng', an item closer in order of complexity, to a knife or a fork, than to a comp
mircea_popescu: "The bill introduced in [Omaha City] Council, for the abolition of slavery in this Territory, was called up yesterday, and its further consideration postponed for two weeks. A strong effort will be made among the Republicans to secure its passage; we think, however, it will fail. The farce certainly cannot be enacted if the Democrats do their duty." << 1859.
erlehmann: so was that all? if not, what could i do more? the instructions seem to end here http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/#footnote_2_68942
erlehmann: phf your patch visualizer linked here http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system is apparently gone
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-01#1664318 << this naive belief that the detritus of human horde existence has specific value per quanta is how most old jews (ie, nonstupiud, nonpoor, alone republicans, see http://trilema.com/the-pawnbroker ) finally spend (ie, return to the socialist empire) their accumulated capital.
BingoBoingo: Wigginton refused to take a Breathalyzer, according to the report. He posted $100 bail and was released. Wigginton resigned as U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Illinois on Nov. 24, 2015, to work for a private law firm. Wigginton became U.S. attorney in August 2010 after former U.S. President Barack Obama nominated him to serve as the top prosecutor in the states southern 38 counties. Wigginton, a Democrat, replaced Republica
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/#footnote_2_68942 << there we go, updated.
trinque: whole matter came down to that, most recently. whole republican structure is a machine out of which flows truth, meaning, what have you
a111: Logged on 2017-03-05 18:20 BingoBoingo: shinohai: Have you considered starting a something to get some editorial experience? Perhaps you can be the publisher of "The Most Serene Republic's Journal Of Gardening And Whoreticulture"?
asciilifeform: as for the cr photos -- i gotta admit, buenos aires looked like a civilized city, esp in contrast. whereas cr looks moar like what asciilifeform imagined 'banana republic' when reading as a child.
mircea_popescu: somehow the fact aristotle is a major source of quotes today in europe, but fukantothmoth or w/e her name was isn't a source of anything for "the great nation of africa" idem dun bother. why the fuck is it that i can recide names of ancient members of the republic of letters to fill an orthodox pomelnik for a full mass, and nobody can name three fucking egyptian authors he likes. supposedly they taught our barbarians magic an
shinohai: See http://trilema.com/2016/cia-factbook-the-most-serene-republic/ for further details! >.>
BingoBoingo: Alcoholism, Bitcoin, and the timeless infant republic saved BingoBoingo from possible Sam-ism
asciilifeform: 'There is a revision system out in the wild called v. It defines source code, or other data under version control, as a function of patches and their authorship, as sealed. Being a product of the Most Serene Republic, it is Spartan, manual, and instructive to Urbit's aspirations.'
mircea_popescu: there's a difference across the atlantic, conservative/republican aren't ~same, so on.
mircea_popescu: "In its early years the Group produced a few carefully researched papers, which the Conservative Party really had to take notice of because no-one else in the Party gave the impression of doing any thinking at all." << he's talking of the republican party in the 80s, ie, that supposed golden age of reaganism. and he's not right, either.
mircea_popescu: republican party has not this peroblem at all : the trump side is 30yos who want to curb stomp faggots, pussies and people from SV ; the remainder is people over 70. nature resolves that problem all by itself.
mircea_popescu: btw ben_vulpes consider changing the reference point to #trilema in your seminal and widely quoted http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system ?
asciilifeform: in other lulz, http://www.oregonlive.com/rosefest/index.ssf/2017/04/organizers_cancel_82nd_avenue.html >> '"You have seen how much power we have downtown and that the police cannot stop us from shutting down roads so please consider your decision wisely," the anonymous email said, telling organizers they could cancel the Republican group's registration or else face action from protesters. "This is non-negotiable."'
mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of The Most Serene Republic: My Second Offline Eatblock Sync Test is complete (with DB Read Wait Stats): http://www.mod6.net/eatblock-test/
mircea_popescu: See http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/ is there for a reason. there's NO OTHERR WAY to learn.
mircea_popescu: in order for item to go into lab, item must first pass maturity exam. become man as opposed to child. See http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/ is there for a reason.
pete_dushenski: damn znort987... there was no way he was going to make his 86btc back at 1 or 2% margins was there. roi approached infinity as bitbet lost broader republican usage and support. shame.
mircea_popescu: which'd be ~why~ specific republican artefacts (above approximated as firehose) result in the "educational split" so to speak.
mod6: The thinking was, now I can diagram the things, post an image, have the other republicans look it over, and agree/disagree. Then it can become part of the ticket that gets entered, or at least linked in the notes section.
mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of The Most Serene Republic: I have published a new version of V (99994 K), submitted here: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-March/000260.html
mircea_popescu: in other lelz, aparently trilema ranks for "the forums of the most serene republic". with the right article, too.