ave1: asciilifeform, could you post the contents of ' build/build-x86_64-linux-musl/binutils-2.25.1/build1/config.log'?
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: enjoying the RE hunt posts
ave1: asciilifeform, also what is in the build-ada.sh? the last line on aarch64 should read: ../extra/build-tarballs.sh $PREFIX musl ada aarch64 x86_64
lobbesbot: Logged on 2018-06-04 03:11:12: <lobbesbot> --- end of auction list, 372.264mn total bids ---
lobbes: ^^ reads, but there is a ~1 min lag from when line is spit out until it hits lobbesbot's db (logs and bot are on separate boxen, and the logs feed the bot).
lobbes: On my todo list is prop up an instance of the tmsr logbot on my pizarro rockchip and redo the #eulora logs to be fed from that. I built the #eulora log-o-tron back in 2015, and back then I had just typed 'ls' for the first time in my life, so I wager I can make the whole process much saner this time around.
lobbes: but relatedly to the quote, I am pretty happy to see the auction business booming again :D
lobbes: Best part is that the same cookie can be used for -any- download link from archive.today, and each cookie is good for 5 months, so I didn't even need to automate the scraping bit.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: smoosh footnotes down to the bottom of the page pls
mod6: ben_vulpes: thanks for posting the report for May.
mod6: does '6 x 8GB uSD' mean, 6 x 8GB micro SD cards ?
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: smoosh footnotes down to the bottom of the page pls << Will see what I can do about this
mod6: lol shithub sale to m$
BingoBoingo: Dammit mod6 you scooped the headline by minutes
mod6: paid in m$ stock. bwahaha.
deedbot: alex__c voiced for 30 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-03 04:11 mircea_popescu: phf, what's the limit ?
phf: i'm not sure how practical that makes patch page though, it definitely doesn't open on my x60. i could perhaps introduce some split mode, where patch page only lists the hunk filenames, and you need to click on hunk to see the contents
mircea_popescu: phf, part of the reason i keep having things sit on other things is to find out what the fuck we need to do.
mircea_popescu: is the idea here that code should never be that long, basically ?
a111: Logged on 2018-04-06 21:12 asciilifeform: a 500k-loc ( ignoring even for a moment the far greater heft of 'modern' wonders ) c/cpp proggy is, for all intents and purposes, closed-source, even if every line is published, because it is quite impossible for anyone -- even author -- to get a proper grip on its behaviour space
phf: right, that was the original idea, as evangelized by ascii. btcbase patch viewer is designed with that idea in mind
phf: i can obviously fix btcbase to be more useful (i.e. continue to aid the patch exploration) in cases where a patch is big, but in general a 9mb patch seems to go against the whole fits in head
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: amazing self depth-plumbing butthurt
mircea_popescu: see, it rests in between "here's a blob of strange, 100mb long" and "here's a sane genesis"
mircea_popescu: and we do have some such blobs in the process, so far.
mircea_popescu: how are they to be digested, if we deliberately make the tools we use unable to grab them ?
mircea_popescu: first step of any digestion is, gotta stuff it in the gullet. enzymes afterwards.
mircea_popescu: the alternative process (as displayed by some spiders etc) is very limited.
mircea_popescu: this'd be my reasoning. just because you shouldn't doesn't mean you should couldn't.
phf: mp-wp is 162093 loc, 6062 of which are containered gif/png. so it's not even that base64 blobs are adding to weight. the codebase is massive
mircea_popescu: phf, it also has the advantage that it works, and VERY well. which to my knowledge is not true of any other piece of web software (alf's complaints notwithstanding, phuctor emergent codebase may qualify)
mircea_popescu: will you go as far as to say that writing a general purpose scriptable webatron (apache) and a "separate" (notrly) db system (mysql) is the wrong solution, and one should just write his blog software in c directly ?
mircea_popescu: because it is not directly evident to me what portion of the 162k loc (granted -- insane count) is due to the tower of chairs arrangement.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, this is quite what i'm saying, a web publishing platform we will want, and phf is in a prime posityion to appreciate the gargantuan task of "make it from prime principles", i think.
mircea_popescu: considering his blog still doesn't win any beauty contests mine participates in.
mircea_popescu: to be clear, i'm not for a second disputing that such piles of lines of "code" are a scandal and an outrage before god. but i wish to know what we're to do.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-26 14:28 asciilifeform: recall the gc discussion . 'scripting lang is one where progy dun live long enuff to need gc'
phf: mircea_popescu: oh i'm not suggesting there's folly here, i'm a) thinking of how to better slice the beast and b) pointing out that it's not even a container issue
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's also the 2nd order effect, whereby by interacting with heretics you find out stuff like "hey, i have a memory leak"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, in theory this is a theory, but in practice his comments are still weird looking.
mircea_popescu: the other problem still remains : if it is not republican doctrine to have a scriptable webatron with a separable but not separate dbsystem, then ~what is it~.
phf: just to clarify my blog is mp-wp, i just bastardized the theme to the point of "improvements" being worse than original
mircea_popescu: and if it is, then what's wrong with php, and delineated specifically. or what, we're gonna use lua ?
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as a proper scripting lang in general, though. that's why it even is ~a~ scripting lang, because it's by the task
mircea_popescu: and here we're looking at a html pre-processor scripting lang
mircea_popescu: and we don't even have a formally declared tmsr-html spec.
phf: i think someone else here had a lisp implementation, but that one lacked comments entirely
mircea_popescu: i'm just saying, it's not ~just~ mp-wp that's an eyesore here. in truth it's our whole relationship to the www that's at issue.
mircea_popescu: and i don't believe www is dead tech. it may need some changes, but as such, the convenience is there, girls reading logs on gym exercise machine mounted tablets.
mircea_popescu: the same idiots always enhance cunt the same god damned way, a good dose of the clap.
mircea_popescu: or to quote the unknown russian, "you have disease of capitalist"
mircea_popescu: "you fuck it, it only gets heavy, and you still not hit largest side of barn"
mircea_popescu: man... this is like proposing fucking a slavegirl well is a bad idea, what'll she need you for if you do.
mircea_popescu: from experience, the more solid code delivered, the more demand for further solid code.
mircea_popescu: what, i should write the same god damned thing every six months, like those idiots doing "cms solutions" for "Web development" "tech firms" ?
mircea_popescu: it's symptom of "every biosack has will to live" nonsense. what, they're all gonna be entrepreneurs. pshaw.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, we didn't sell/pay anything this month, did we ?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-03 18:51 diana_coman: will do tomorrow and report back
diana_coman: !!v F0D3BF6C74645C228DA0009E4B47A1E8956EE9308AE21F956F13B504227D9A4F
deedbot: diana_coman updated rating of ave1 from 2 to 3 << made the very useful scripts to compile gnat for various architectures as well as other useful ada & ada+c bits; does a lot and talks a little, always on point though; writes at ave1.org
mircea_popescu: so reading historical qntra or should i say hysterical qntra is quite the fucking riot, but, BingoBoingo or anyone, where\s the article about the moronic french "agents" that texted to their "jihadist" suspect ?
mircea_popescu: "The incident came as France remains under a state of emergency declared after the 2015 Paris terrorist attacks.
mircea_popescu: Some of the emergency measures, notably beefed up police powers, are to be made permanent under a bill that has been approved by the lower house of parliament, the National Assembly.
mircea_popescu: Despite criticism that the legislation risks curtailing civil liberties because it codifies measures such as stop and seizure and house arrest without judicial review, most of the provisions are expected to stand."
BingoBoingo: The texting the Jihadi incident happened during the way too long downtime
mircea_popescu: though it turns out it was during the time of qntra forced silence
a111: Logged on 2018-04-11 15:29 asciilifeform: speaking of which, apparently AS OF TODAY gentoo portage latest ver DEMANDS gpg2.
esthlos: last post 2017/12/30, the WIP Cuntoo installer
ben_vulpes: i see manifest draf, art car parade, and then the cuntoo instapper
mircea_popescu: anyway, likely problem is trinque's blog doesn't neatly redirect changed names ?
esthlos: mircea_popescu: nice, thanks
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: seems to do that as well
mircea_popescu: in other items of little interest, holy shit ben affleck is a repugnant, fucktarded enemy of human civilisation.
mircea_popescu: so he makes this piece of shit thing, "gigli" right ? and it's "mobster" (because he's cool, right ? like, cool kid ?) meets retard and discovers how cool retards really are!!!
mircea_popescu: it could happen to you too! and if it didn't, it's because you're nopt as cool as hebe shit-fleck, doing inept "check me out, mom, i have sex fantasies with harvey keitel" monologues in laundromats.
mircea_popescu: whole fucking pile also incidentally providing a vehicle for that moron dancer girl what's her name, to pretend like a name can possibly be wasted on her dumb ass. "condition of women" holy shit, she's a poor immigrant dancer already.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-04 19:36 asciilifeform: a rockchip cluster under snsa banner , for pizarro, also under construction ( currently still in component search phase ) , construction also planned for this mo
mircea_popescu: how the fuck to these assholes manage to reconstruct stalinism without stalin!
ben_vulpes: i must have missed it, may i have a pointer?
mircea_popescu: anyway, item is going to be delivered below the original estimate you had anyway, from what i gather.
esthlos: doh, I had trinque's ip set to the old in /etc/hosts, from when I tried to follow mircea_popescu 's advice and disable dns lol
mircea_popescu: in other news, toasted almonds, black chocolate and milk coffee ftw.