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(pest) bitbot[asciilifeform]: (asciilifeform) 2020-07-26 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: 0 chance of portability on unixlikes w/out the c bindings, cuz the built-in structs actually vary in size & layout b/w not only irons (endianism etc) but even particular os
(pest) dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2021-05-18 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: it isn't even simply about the cert authorities, but rather a multi-layered shit sandwich, with multi-kilogram 'standards' documents, mandatory null ciphers, ~impossible to implement w/out subtle bugs, regular 'upgrades', and many more
(pest) unpx[asciilifeform]: asciilifeform I think verisimilitudes is writing his own pest client
(pest) asciilifeform: unpx: at 1 time we had an apl aficionado here; if yer deeply into the subj, may want to write to him
(pest) dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-07-03 phf: verisimilitude: go fuck yourself
(pest) crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: relue: fwiw the mod for lainchins' programming board is verisimilitude, he might have his own wot+pestnet but no clue, you'd have to ask him. he vanished from here a little while after getting [http:
(pest) dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-03-28 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: we're talking about a 'red/black' separator in iron, where 0 secrets travel in/outta 1 of the jacks, tho
(pest) dulapbot: Logged on 2023-09-26 11:28:51 asciilifeform: he ( who? wasn't cleaar from thrd, verisimilitude? or was phf? ) not needs to ask asciilifeform & co for blessing before running a net, or making whatever own riff on protocol, or whatnot.
(pest) asciilifeform: he ( who? wasn't cleaar from thrd, verisimilitude? or was phf? ) not needs to ask asciilifeform & co for blessing before running a net, or making whatever own riff on protocol, or whatnot.
(pest) dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2020-12-31 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: imho it is a not unimportant detail, that the agitprop comes from folx whose actual aim is to drive functional, publicly-available crypto into extinction (and in fact largely achieved this)
(pest) dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2020-06-08 verisimilitude: Say, asciilifeform, what's the opinion on this: https://ngnghm.github.io
(pest) dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-03-17 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: see e.g. dope threads.
(pest) dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-03-31 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: there's an ukr joak, 'one ukr -- is a fine fella. two ukrs -- best buds. three ukrs -- is a partizan brigade with a traitor'
(pest) signpost[cgra]: in which we learn verisimilitude was a high endurance jonsykkel troll
(pest) asciilifeform not intended 'verisimilitude flavour'
(pest) asciilifeform fwiw not 'indifferent to people-talking', hence wai put effort into trying to come up with tooling for subj, rather than disappearing into a verisimilitude-esque walk into some abstraction
(pest) crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: I can't find the thread, but the one good thing that came out of verisimilitude was along the lines of "I don't make mistakes anymore"
(pest) dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-03-17 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: doin' dope 'correctly' is as much a skill as e.g. running a table saw or flying a 'cessna'
(pest) dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2021-05-27 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: it's no solution at all : if i can't cut/paste to/from $item and www browser on every major os, it's worthless to me
(pest) dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2021-01-20 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: good # of'em want to 'look' 'clever' to 'make tenure' etc
(pest) dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-05-09 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-09#1100745 << may encourage verisimilitude to realize that it aint in fact run 'with money'. oligarchs aint oligarchs 'because have money', they are simply deputies of the reich (typically, tho not always, 'titled nobility') to whom freshly-printed dough is simply issued
(asciilifeform) juche: First learned about this place from verisimilitudes on his IRC server when I was in high-school. I've got some book smarts, but most the virtues of the Republic are WIP for me, including works.
(asciilifeform) adlai: so, uh, if you rely upon the search function to shorten your reading... verisimilitude, read and respond, please !
(asciilifeform) scoopbot: New article on A Syndication of Verisimilitudes: An Ada UDP POSIX Sockets Binding
(pest) dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-06-14 phf: verisimilitude: but i'm wrong, i didn't actually know what neet means. i thought it was another slang for hiki, but it's more precise than that
(pest) phf[asciilifeform]: i'm again misusing the term, we've had this conversation with verisimilitude. i mean hikikomori, but it's longer to type
(pest) phf[asciilifeform]: if you're being verisimilitude pedantic with your taxonomy, then you ought to be aware that the transition from LISP to Lisp happened as the scope of the ideas covered by lisp concept expanded beyond the initial. the use of acronym LISP tends to imply a focus on traditional lisp subjects like pure sexp asts, metacircular e
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-01 14:28:09 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: per pest conception, you wanna be able to ensure unfraggedness even if pesting from moving truck and wardriving, which precludes 'clever' path mtu discovery etc
(asciilifeform) gregorynyssa: speaking of which, this might interest "asciilifeform" or "verisimilitude:" https://i.imgur.com/NcGcAx2.jpg
(asciilifeform) shinohai: >in b4 verisimilitudes shows up to correct gregorynyssa's Latin ......
(pest) dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-03-31 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: there's an ukr joak, 'one ukr -- is a fine fella. two ukrs -- best buds. three ukrs -- is a partizan brigade with a traitor'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: no one ever said 'i wish i had spent moar time in #a and less working'
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-03 22:43:53 verisimilitude: I dislike sweet things, generally.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-03 21:26:11 verisimilitude: What's ``AK''?
(asciilifeform) vex: I love .vn style verisimilitude.
(asciilifeform) vex: how does verisimilitude take is coffee, are you acreful with the grind and all that?
(asciilifeform) vex: I know verisimilitude
(asciilifeform) vex: AK verisimilitude
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-03 02:46:15 crtdaydreams: verisimilitude: this is the point where you don't vocalize it in chat and you drop it for another day
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-03 15:35:22 verisimilitude: Well, I was disconnecting for a few hours today, anyway, and that's plenty of time for you to discuss it amongst yourselves.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-03 02:14:13 phf: you can't solve social with technological, and the experience of trying to ignore verisimilitude basically demonstrated for me that you can't have naive ignore in a chat as a solution
(asciilifeform) shinohai: Oh it's just a verisimilitude ping, no need to stop the Sunday afternoon orgy ....
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-03 02:42:24 phf: verisimilitude: that's fine, but you know, there's no other resolution to this other then us not talking to each other
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-03 02:14:13 phf: you can't solve social with technological, and the experience of trying to ignore verisimilitude basically demonstrated for me that you can't have naive ignore in a chat as a solution
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-03 02:45:49 verisimilitude: It's a shame, since the language is so interesting; I recently learned about the supine of a verb.
(asciilifeform) shinohai thinks had nothing to do with "safety" but rather verisimilitude's tired alliterations that went on for hours and into the next day.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-03 02:30:52 verisimilitude: This is no different than giving me the negative rating only after shinohai did, because he made it safe to do, right?
(asciilifeform) crtdaydreams: verisimilitude: this is the point where you don't vocalize it in chat and you drop it for another day
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-03 02:28:08 verisimilitude: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110421 So, when I point out something about Latin, that's trivial and senseless, but when phf makes this obvious point, it's just fine and dandy. I've made these same points several times, phf, it's naught special.
(asciilifeform) phf: verisimilitude: that's fine, but you know, there's no other resolution to this other then us not talking to each other
(asciilifeform) phf: verisimilitude: you can inject yourself wherever you fucking want to _by the mechanism of the medium_, but that doesn't make you part of it
(asciilifeform) crtdaydreams: verisimilitude: A conversation implies a dialogue. Not a monologue.
(asciilifeform) phf: verisimilitude: i don't give a fuck, you're still a redditor
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-03 02:28:08 verisimilitude: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110421 So, when I point out something about Latin, that's trivial and senseless, but when phf makes this obvious point, it's just fine and dandy. I've made these same points several times, phf, it's naught special.
(asciilifeform) phf: verisimilitude: go fuck yourself
(asciilifeform) phf: because the trickiest use case is the part where verisimilitude is particularly annoying: you're having a conversation with somebody interesting, and then verisimilitude pipes in with "i have a latin dictionary and CANIS means dog", so your counterparty decides to engage that point, and suddenly you have this complicated merge, where a single response semantically belongs to both ignored and not ignored categories
(asciilifeform) phf: you can't solve social with technological, and the experience of trying to ignore verisimilitude basically demonstrated for me that you can't have naive ignore in a chat as a solution
(asciilifeform) phf: most of the time can just filter it out "oh, asciilifeform is talking to verisimilitude", but that still brings the person back in awareness
(asciilifeform) crtdaydreams: phf: not the point, was going to write a quick script to block all class="logline verisimilitude" and be done with it
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-03 01:29:47 asciilifeform: still wonders whether verisimilitude's trolol was a master stroke of demented genius, rather than mere fermentation product. simply seems too perfect of a trololol
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-02 21:36:55 verisimilitude: The portable method is to avoid these line functions and use character functions or, likely, work solely with octets.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform still wonders whether verisimilitude's trolol was a master stroke of demented genius, rather than mere fermentation product. simply seems too perfect of a trololol
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-03 01:03:58 verisimilitude: I don't have an account with some social media nonsense, I don't obsess over nonsense either, and I'm generally a different manner of person than the human-shaped animals walking about the world.
(asciilifeform) phf: verisimilitude: nice use of "ostensibly". i am for the record not letting it stand. you're not _so bad_ you're just utterly _meh_, but the reason i'm angry is because i'm exposed to you, or for that matter to your ilk. the bulk of what one is exposed to is some form of verisimilitude, so you're a kind of stand it for a general deformity, in this case, rather than a specific individual.
(asciilifeform) phf: verisimilitude: you can go fuck yourself whenever you feel like it, i mean i'm not keeping you. i'm just fucking still mad at how fucking idiotic your advice is, and your general reddit tier contribution. to conversation, or to life.
(asciilifeform) phf: oh appealing to authority are we, i thought only verisimilitude solutions are proper solutions and everything else is junk
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-02 21:57:24 verisimilitude: Anyway, if this is just fiddling in the REPL and not something for release, just read in lines normally and mind the ending carriage return.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-03 00:27:59 verisimilitude: I don't think I'll offer any advice to thee from now on, no.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-03 00:26:44 verisimilitude: I tried to offer advice, drawing from my previous works, to get this in return.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-03 00:03:54 verisimilitude: It's a tad surprising to me that the issue is with me, and not some of the others here; I don't spout nonsense as at least one other here does. Do I simply pass the barrier from obvious nonsense at a glance is all?
(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: I exude verisimilitude.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-03 00:08:05 verisimilitude: I'm outside of the range of normal human behaviour, to an extent not one of you is truly aware, and this makes me deranged. I'm not sorry.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-03 00:06:30 verisimilitude: Now, asciilifeform has compared me to Terry Davis, but I prefer to think of myself as more coherent, most of the time.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-03 00:20:01 verisimilitude: Should we continue wasting key strokes on this topic?
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-03 00:14:53 verisimilitude: It wouldn't've been kind had I responded so in turn.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-02 22:38:16 verisimilitude: Believe it or not, I do irritate others at times, unawares; I'm aware I've perhaps a problem, at the least.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-02 22:33:12 verisimilitude: Listen, phf, I'm obviously touched in the head, so I'm never going to ``fuck off'' and we know that.
(asciilifeform) phf: verisimilitude: you weren't claiming anything, you're just a fucking markov chain generator, fuck off.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-02 21:56:32 verisimilitude: Sure, but Common Lisp wasn't designed that way; Ada's much better for this manner of thing, generally.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: have you considered becoming embroiled with women ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: proposed an arse nail chair and doubled down, trololol
(asciilifeform) phf: verisimilitude: go. fuck. yourself.
(asciilifeform) phf: verisimilitude: you're full of shit
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: got a 100% impl. of it yet ? intend to bake one ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: there ainta 'real common lisp', there's a buncha variously rusty pc impls
(asciilifeform) phf: verisimilitude: go fuck yourself, don't ever fucking talk to me again
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-02 21:56:32 verisimilitude: Sure, but Common Lisp wasn't designed that way; Ada's much better for this manner of thing, generally.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: that's an arse-nail chair tho.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-02 21:36:55 verisimilitude: The portable method is to avoid these line functions and use character functions or, likely, work solely with octets.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-07-01 01:29:59 verisimilitude: Joking aside, wouldn't the real scientists who pass through that filter wind up killed anyway?
(asciilifeform) vex: I wonder if verisimilitude really wants to battle to be the second most useless cunt. Dude we could just sign adlai up to every boooze subscription and both win.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-30 19:25:45 verisimilitude: One can accept meaninglessness and still work in spite of it.
(asciilifeform) signpost: verisimilitude: footprints it looks like. til
(asciilifeform) signpost: verisimilitude: what is a concise statement of what problem you're trying to solve?
(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: I'd ask it to compute a function such as this, which has characteristics making verification particularly simple, compared to checking the sorted numbers against the questioned numbers.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-30 15:27:03 signpost: verisimilitude: and I don't expect you to say, but you behave like you're in your late 20s.
(asciilifeform) signpost: verisimilitude: and I don't expect you to say, but you behave like you're in your late 20s.
(asciilifeform) phf: asciilifeform: you mean like the last conversation on apl where verisimilitude literally just restated my original point?
(asciilifeform) phf: verisimilitude, that's all
(asciilifeform) signpost: not sure on which side verisimilitude falls, but it's a continuum and gets worse the younger they are.
(asciilifeform) phf: signpost: have you *ever* had constructive conversations with verisimilitude, why is he still not on your ignore? that's not a rhetorical question, i'm just curious
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform not chargin' folx per byte, verisimilitude free to as verbose as he likes
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-30 14:47:30 verisimilitude: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-30#1109807 I don't recall having this problem, and I'm more inundated with it than anyone else here. Using anonymous forums doesn't require adopting the social protocol.
(asciilifeform) signpost: verisimilitude: do you not see irony in dismissing the value of human relationship *to others*?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: a bit hightech for barbarians neh
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-30 13:35:30 shinohai: Why does dribbling mercury through a bronze straw into dick sound like something verisimilitude would do "because the Romans might have done it that way" ?
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-17 15:14:46 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: doin' dope 'correctly' is as much a skill as e.g. running a table saw or flying a 'cessna'
(asciilifeform) shinohai: Why does dribbling mercury through a bronze straw into dick sound like something verisimilitude would do "because the Romans might have done it that way" ?
(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: It's interesting to refresh myself on CDR-coding and then think of this. The Lisp machines used the most obvious option to terminate a CDR-coded list, a simple NIL state.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform evidently misparsed verisimilitude's orig sentence
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: iirc we had this thread. why the fuck wouldja store dupe packets.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: with no intention to rain on yer parade, still gotta note that 0 of these are any kinda noose to folx who know 2-3 eurolangs
(pest) awt[asciilifeform]: I might have to move here permanently. For whatever reason verisimilitude both bores the hell out of me and drives me nuts
(asciilifeform) phf: verisimilitude: i knew you're going to correct that one, but it's a joke see: victorians liked to invent new words, that were typically badly constructed, that's when we got most of our latin-greek chimera words. latinologist by analogy with egyptologist which was a popular pastime among various encyclopedists, and equally amateurish :}
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-24 15:39:37 verisimilitude: Has asciilifeform tried to write this in TempleOS before now?
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-24 15:06:25 verisimilitude: s/head/toilet/
(asciilifeform) PeterL: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-24#1109049 << where we see that verisimilitude is not familiar with naval terminology
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: in erry place where asciilifeform ever brought it up, response always ~identical : 'why are you doing that, have you considered doing something entirely else? and also emacs' etc
(asciilifeform) phf: verisimilitude: i keep almost traditional lab notebook, almost exclusively in long hand, for each variety of project
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: wat in your pov is the diff?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: if you (or the other folx) have any kinda substantial net presence, is kinda obv
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: is traditional in some industries. but if it aint there, you can usually pencil it in
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: folx dun typically 'kiss&tell' re commercial worx
(asciilifeform) phf: verisimilitude: i'd rather not tie previous conversation to it in logs for anti-search purposes. i've described some obv impl details, that were apropos, but it wasn't really my place
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: lol wheredja think it came from?!
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: laff, verisimilitude , but d00d was consistent. 'who said 'a', must say 'b''(tm)(r)(lenin)
(asciilifeform) phf: verisimilitude's actual considered point (because he wrote some apl, isn't just talking out of his ass like on other subj) is that apl is particularly suited for vectorization, is also unsurprisingly how the fucking conversation started.
(asciilifeform) phf: this was a grownup conversation until verisimilitude joined. luckily i left to get sandwiches, and i no longer care, but damn
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: wasn't attempting to justify cmachine braindamage, lol
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: was never aimed to be
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: lulzy enuff it does -- or rather the 'wintel' beast does. doesn't actually 'win' from $accelerator-of-the-day as microshit is stuck supporting 10-20y of junkyard
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: can infer from what verisimilitude said earlier that in apltron could, say, force array to align on 128bits or similar
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: paste plox, seems to have mangled
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: got example handy ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: similar to the fill in cl neh
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: elaborate ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: for instance, asciilifeform was expecting verisimilitude to say e.g. 'if the cpu vendors simply shipped fpga core that runs at main clock speed, wouldn't need magick instructions'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: asciilifeform strongly recs to at least once 'get hands dirty' before 'aa, idjits, they dun know the magic pill'
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-20 16:56:21 phf: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-20#1107706 << you're such an insuffarable cunt, i'm prepared to defend php just to not be in the same camp with you. shit basic on altair is a superior system to the idea system that only exists in verisimilitude's head. did you know that in my system there are no flaws? did you also know that i've solved all practical problems by never doing anything practical? fuck. you.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: there aint a sought answer, lol
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: automatically?
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-24 12:52:26 verisimilitude: Ada enables one to make such changes about as easily as it gets.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-24 12:58:41 verisimilitude: The programmer can just add such manually, if he really needs it, by writing the routine in machine code.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i gotta bite; how wouldja've 'smartly' baked kernel so that can somehow use arbitrary oddball new cpu pheatures w/ minimal effort ?
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-24 00:40:33 verisimilitude: He's also involved in covering up a fake suicide.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-22 19:41:45 verisimilitude: I'll admit it took a few minutes for me to recall how to do long-division properly; I usually use ratios, so I've probably not done it in years; does this make me stupid?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-22#1108550 << problem aint when verisimilitude fughets how to do long division; problem is when you get to the point where ~nobody even thinks is at all relevant how anyffin worx, because 'has always worked, use $library, will always work errywhere'
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2020-12-02 14:56:27 asciilifeform: btw verisimilitude , this leads naturally into question : pcb routing is ideal fit for machine optimizer. constraints are easily expressed ('don't cross wires'; 'make'em all as short as possible'; 'reduce layers') and 0 intrinsic text involved. pcb routing is still hell. and 0 movement on this front in
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-22 19:28:34 verisimilitude: Besides, in a purely formal domain, machines truly are better than men in almost every conceivable way.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-22 18:06:11 asciilifeform: for a sane take on what verisimilitude (might be) angling at, see also 'hashlife' ( e.g. )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform highly recs to verisimilitude to read gosper's piece. and try w/ own hands
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: for a sane take on what verisimilitude (might be) angling at, see also 'hashlife' ( e.g. )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: sadly very few things in fact decompose into e.g. 'fetch from this-here 256 #s'
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-17 17:10:23 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: if you see yerself as involved in pure mathematics, rather than aiming to actually solve sumthing in physical reality w/ a comp on sumthing resembling human timescale -- the machine is arguably a distraction, and you oughta be working w/ pen & paper
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: it makes as much sense as this 'computer' lol
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: ftr it remains a mystery to asciilifeform how the linked piece re 'tabular' might lead to above
(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: So, I've been thinking about Tabular Programming constantly, really, and I think it would be feasible to have the little language asciilifeform wants by building something around the approach.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: concept is, approx, that one in fact can win from following in a tradition, and, similarly, build taller ladder for future folx to climb by doing so
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-22 17:07:55 verisimilitude: Common Lisp is less consistent, but more practical.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: and betcha it aint simply because they fit better on yer screen, lol
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-22 00:45:54 verisimilitude: We can liken this to those who enjoy the C programming language.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-22 01:01:02 verisimilitude: FRĪGĒSNE, Beaureguard?
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-22 00:49:52 verisimilitude: So we're the mutants, right phf?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: didja read the b00kz re which thrd, or unrelated point ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: or any other p2p net
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: see also e.g.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: how much, outta curiosity, weighs e.g. google's front pg ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: at a certain point, cpu & tcp state liquishit table exhaustion; but this takes moar 'popularity' than 'redditus wave' (tho not rate in even small-time organized ddos)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: helps, aha, if static, no photos, no warez, no isos, no user-submittable forms , as on verisimilitude's www
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: well, remember that they're externalizing the waste to ~other~. ( they've all the bw they could possibly use, 'too cheap to meter' etc)
(asciilifeform) crtdaydreams: verisimilitude: is the point of this format specifically for your hand-coding with the visual metaprogrammer?
(asciilifeform) crtdaydreams: verisimilitude: what did you use to make it?
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-21 01:40:07 verisimilitude: I'll make it easier.
(asciilifeform) adlai|text: plot twist: verisimilitude moonlights as a professor of gender studies at berkley.
(asciilifeform) adlai|text: verisimilitude: I have no graphical browser handy this minute, yet will probably use one within the hour... thank you for the headsup.
(asciilifeform) adlai|text: it is beyond my pay grade to determine whether conversations between Vexual and verisimilitude are a milestone of intelligibility for one, tolerance of unintelligibility by the other... possibly both.
(asciilifeform) adlai|text: holy crap, vexual and verisimilitude having a conversation
(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: Here vex, my 404 page temporarily has some mammaries: http://verisimilitudes.net/error
(asciilifeform) vex: how many years in university for you verisimilitude?
(asciilifeform) vex: I'd agree verisimilitude. although I'd much rather read latin that whatver a kanadian karen konkockted
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-20 20:05:37 verisimilitude: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-20#1107753 This was a horrifying read.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: likely even 1um is smallenuff (2um was good enuff for bolix) ; but it aint as if the old processes somehow cheap
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-18 16:10:51 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: picture a bus w/ 4 brake and 4 gas pedals. 1 per wheel.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: until 'recently' , iron div/mul was rare, and these were normally implemented by users
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: you know how programmer doesn't expect to be able to change how ADD, SUB, DIV, MUL work ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: when you bake sumthing in physical world, you'll prolly start getting'em , for all the good it does
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: didja need'em for sumthing, lol
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: chinese-professionally lol
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: massive bottleneck (in both time & space)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: not merely 'locked down' but ungranular
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform ~decade ago and formerly used to often get 'fan mail' of similar angle to phf's to verisimilitude -- 'stfu about notional systems that only in yer head!' ; naodays not gets these anymoar, but sometimes 'why aintcha writing about lispms! write about lispms!' now, lol
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: phf: imho verisimilitude runs a very serious risk of ending up as an 'why won't they read my elementary proof of fermat's' fella
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-20 16:31:51 verisimilitude: Erik Naggum wrote that, and it also applies to Plan 9.
(asciilifeform) phf: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-20#1107706 << you're such an insuffarable cunt, i'm prepared to defend php just to not be in the same camp with you. shit basic on altair is a superior system to the idea system that only exists in verisimilitude's head. did you know that in my system there are no flaws? did you also know that i've solved all practical problems by never doing anything practical? fuck. you.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: its was 'a unix' in so far as asciilifeform concerned.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i rec to see whether still unconvinced once you've tried revving up nic/disk/vga on x86/64 from bare iron and seen what's involved and how in particular brittle
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: asciilifeform strongly convinced that anyffin one could write for x86 (and similar 'c-machine' iron) will end up effectively 'a unix', like in the old su joak where 'i take home parts from sewing machine factory erryday, but evrything i assemble always ends up being a maxim mg'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: for verisimilitude's purposes, asciilifeform suspects, phf's plan9 is 'a unix'
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-17 17:10:23 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: if you see yerself as involved in pure mathematics, rather than aiming to actually solve sumthing in physical reality w/ a comp on sumthing resembling human timescale -- the machine is arguably a distraction, and you oughta be working w/ pen & paper
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( can, e.g., throw out the comp entirely, but presumably wasn't what verisimilitude meant )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: reminiscent of legendary reply of brit war ministry to churchill's 'how do we get rid of german uboats?' -- 'most immediately -- if could boil the ocean'
(asciilifeform) adlai|text may have misunderstood what verisimilitude meant by 'geographical'
(asciilifeform) adlai|text: verisimilitude: search around for "instant exchange", these spring up like weeds. obviously they have counterparty risk, they always work in the way most favorable to their operators, rather than actually using scripts to make the two payments mutually continguent.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: what means here 'escape hatch' ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: in re bitcoin in particular -- most of the time when you aint txing, worst thing a broken/sabotaged client can do to you is lie re fact of whether you've been paid
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: the interesting bit is that most not even attempt any such thing
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: picture a bus w/ 4 brake and 4 gas pedals. 1 per wheel.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: same excuse also from morons who lost half their fingers in table saw, what of it
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: stalin & mao have own places
(asciilifeform) scoopbot: New article on A Syndication of Verisimilitudes: Reflections on lon nimi
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: feel free to continue, asciilifeform must bbl
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: hm wait , thought verisimilitude was going for 100% compat. w/ classical rome, what 'capitalization'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: approx as interesting as a hypothetical 1950s idjit, transplanted to vlsi era , asking 'if i can't unscrew individual transistor in ic, how can i swap it like a triode when it burns out?'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: sure. see phf's link from last wk tho, a notbad piece on what happens when folx dismiss the physicality of the machine
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: it's stuck waiting on access to ic fab ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: if you see yerself as involved in pure mathematics, rather than aiming to actually solve sumthing in physical reality w/ a comp on sumthing resembling human timescale -- the machine is arguably a distraction, and you oughta be working w/ pen & paper
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: and when you want to go back and change sumthing ? thenwat
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: good % of it came from precisely this style of premature optimization.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-17 15:45:47 verisimilitude: !abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789_
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: attempts to run entirely away from the fact that yer on a physical machine, with elements of given physical size -- are doomed to comical failure
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: incidentally can't 'prevent by construction' given that not all 7bit chars valid in handles
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-17 15:13:59 verisimilitude: Make the field twenty-eight octets, and encode thirty-two characters all the same.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-17 01:21:16 verisimilitude: How should a client handle a slightly-belligerent peer? Ignoring the message is no option, due to the chain, requiring the client at least remember to not attempt to get it.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: ohnoez 9th bit costs $!1111
(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: Eventually, the processor doesn't even implement its model, because it is so broken that they haphazardly restrict it. I call this quality Omnipresent Mismatch.
(asciilifeform) shinohai: I'll know I've fucked up when verisimilitude tries to start conversing entirely in emojis.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-16 00:58:17 scoopbot: New article on A Syndication of Verisimilitudes: A Review of ``Out of Their Minds'' by Dennis Shasha and Cathy Lazere
(asciilifeform) vex: do you know swahili verisimilitude ?
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-15 22:25:32 verisimilitude: I didn't create toki pona, a Canadian woman did.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-26 15:15:42 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: why would they do that ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: on some days nobody speaks, believe or not has happened before. logotron cleanly skips over these when flipping pages.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-09 17:42:27 verisimilitude: I could continue on this sexual topic, but it would reveal a deeply unusual nature, so let's not.
(asciilifeform) phf: verisimilitude: he's certainly in good company
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: sufficiently rich bag of transforms should getcha to 666 within 1% in reasonable # of steps, i'd suspect
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: there was a notbad numerological calculator on www at one pt, which would list the steps needed to reduce $input to 666
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