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(ossasepia) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (128h37) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(agriculturalsupremacy) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (128h37) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(pizarro) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (128h38) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(asciilifeform) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (128h38) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(ossasepia) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (133h37) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(pizarro) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (133h38) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(agriculturalsupremacy) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (133h38) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(asciilifeform) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (133h38) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(pizarro) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (137h37) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(agriculturalsupremacy) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (137h37) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(ossasepia) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (137h38) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(asciilifeform) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (137h38) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(pizarro) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (142h37) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(asciilifeform) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (142h37) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(ossasepia) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (142h38) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(agriculturalsupremacy) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (142h38) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(pizarro) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (147h37) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(ossasepia) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (147h38) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(agriculturalsupremacy) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (147h38) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(asciilifeform) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (147h38) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(agriculturalsupremacy) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (152h37) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(ossasepia) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (152h38) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(pizarro) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (152h38) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(asciilifeform) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (152h38) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(agriculturalsupremacy) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (157h37) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(asciilifeform) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (157h37) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(ossasepia) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (157h38) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(pizarro) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (157h38) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(pizarro) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (161h37) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(ossasepia) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (161h37) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(asciilifeform) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (161h38) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(agriculturalsupremacy) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (161h38) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(pizarro) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (166h37) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(ossasepia) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (166h37) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(asciilifeform) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (166h38) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(agriculturalsupremacy) auctionbot: S#1067 O=22mn LB=None E=2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 (166h38) >>> Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(trilema) auctionbot: Sell order # 1067 created by BingoBoingo: Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Opening: 22mn ecu Ending: 2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 UTC (167 hours)
(trilema) BingoBoingo: !Xsell 22mn 168 Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
(pizarro) BingoBoingo: mod6: Site should be coming back up once the dns is propagated.
(ossasepia) billymg: wait, no, that's BingoBoingo's box that it lives on but he provided me with another for my dns record. one sec...
(asciilifeform) BingoBoingo: The former Qntra/DNS box is probably more useful racked than on a desk, but I'm inclined to shove some more fans in the chassis and plug it in somewhere outside the wire.
(trilema) mp_en_viaje: i mean financed. eg when i logged into dns thing a few days back at BingoBoingo 's request discovered i have like 1k usd rotting in there. and that place takes bitcoin, too.
(trilema) BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I don't know about moving blogs right away, but I am interested in a something to spread out the DNS record serving
(trilema) ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 11:06:29 asciilifeform: (speaking as almost complete ignoramus re subj) : mp_en_viaje do you know how 'well-behaved' is arin ? i.e. do they routinely confiscate ip blox from 'undesirables' the way the dns people do ?
(trilema) asciilifeform: (speaking as almost complete ignoramus re subj) : mp_en_viaje do you know how 'well-behaved' is arin ? i.e. do they routinely confiscate ip blox from 'undesirables' the way the dns people do ?
(trilema) BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: ty. Once more friendly boxes start getting stood up I'd like to start meaningfully speading the DNS around. Different c-blocks, different continents, etc.
(trilema) ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-14 00:13:11 lobbes: my guess is that logs.minigame.biz is using qntra dns maybe? Also, don't forget to use ".biz" and not ".bz"
(trilema) BingoBoingo moving on to dns daemon setup. This time once its set up it should probably get replicated to actual diverse boxes and locations.
(trilema) lobbes: my guess is that logs.minigame.biz is using qntra dns maybe? Also, don't forget to use ".biz" and not ".bz"
(trilema) mp_en_viaje: meanwhile i moved the bimbo from fetlife work to instagram work yest, on the groudns that "what the fuck, all these uppity gorgons, go talk to pretty girls at least"
(trilema) BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It came out in duffel run. Was on tiny box I flew in that held first pizarro www and dns server along with first pizarro trb node
(trilema) BingoBoingo: asciilifeform and everyone else: All disks are out of the rack with the exception of the RockChip kernel SD cards. Maybe a couple of unused RK spare are hiding in the bilge box. A variety of miscellaneous was recovered as well including the KVM, a couple handfuls of USD ttyls, the unsealed FUCKGOATs that were plugged into RockChips, and for sentimental value the Qntra/DNS server I flew into the country with because it's tiny ass fit in
(trilema) BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: For the next three extractions I am leaning towards taking mod6/BTF, trinque, and the shared leaving Qntra/DNS, Rockchip plant, S.NSA vacant, switch, and the bilge box to be extracted
(trilema) mp_en_viaje: ooooh i see, dns is down, page saved by i see , i see. doh.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: thimbronion, shrysr, lobbes use the IP directly for younghands.club (ie 161.0.121.247 ) as the DNS server's IP for the site is currently down
(trilema) BingoBoingo: diana_coman: The DNS server IPs are now both down. Shared server is still up.
(pizarro) dorion: therefore, reporting that the IP for dorion-mode.com was/is public in DNS records and not included in the range. I don't know how much this information actually helps, but it's information I have to share.
(trilema) asciilifeform abolishing the use of the dnsistic rotator in his bot. recommends to others to do same, and actually use the bot's rotator w/ known-good fleanode noads (granted there aint many)
(ossasepia) ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-23 18:50:41 whaack: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-23#1003635 << ztkfg.com was based on http://trilema.com/2014/why-everything-you-think-you-know-about-dns-is-entirely-wrong/ and grabbing a small character count. but i will consider switching to whaacked
(ossasepia) whaack: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-23#1003635 << ztkfg.com was based on http://trilema.com/2014/why-everything-you-think-you-know-about-dns-is-entirely-wrong/ and grabbing a small character count. but i will consider switching to whaacked
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re glibc -- iirc subj of inquiry was re the 'nss' thing, which i found to be the sublib that drags in dynamicism, dns, etc
(trilema) snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 15:25:52 bvt: hello. seems that dns/http of p.bvulpes.com fell off -> deedbot can't produce OTPs
(asciilifeform) bvt: hello. seems that dns/http of p.bvulpes.com fell off -> deedbot can't produce OTPs
(trilema) asciilifeform: they ~would~ like to turn it into something resembling dns.
(trilema) girlattorney: is not like DNS where there is a precise hierarchy, correct?
(trilema) girlattorney: so as long as trb doesn't care about the peers, and there isn't a single point of failure (aka DNS and root servers) we are sound, correct?
(trilema) girlattorney: btw, after stripping out DNS on my important applications (such as TRB) my question now was about IP space assigned from IANA, could this be in the future an attack vector?
(trilema) asciilifeform: diana_coman: observe btw that the bot config allows to put ~list~ of fleanode endpoints. so it is not necessary to use the default rotation dnsism, can in fact do like mp_en_viaje does and put list of favourites
(trilema) asciilifeform: the logger does not depend on dnsism to work ( can set the domain in /etc/hosts like e.g. mp does )
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: head over to http://younghands.club and tell me if you see the blog (so not just "it works") as the dns changes should have propagated by now
(trilema) BingoBoingo: Anyways if it isn't one thing with the internet of shit it is another. Packet weather's one thing. But for all the derp about encrypting the DNS... routers routinely eat unsigned route batches
(trilema) BingoBoingo: The .247 address will be getting unblackholed at some point. In the interim I have put skeleton DNS entries for sites not previously using our DNS server in place. Using ns1.qntra.net and ns2.qntra.net will allow restoring public access to sites more quickly in the event a DDoS is mitigated.
(trilema) BingoBoingo: And the DNS server has been populated with entries for every site on Pizarro shared hosting. bvt mocky cruciform trinque mats whaack The new IP address for the shared hosting server UY1 is 161.0.121.240
(trilema) mircea_popescu: this is nonsense. "idempotent" my foot. if it has a domain name, it has a domain name. if it has an ip instead, has an ip. if it uses a dns round robin, now there's the dns.
(trilema) mp_en_viaje: there's a list of ("independent") fixations. even if patient finds way out of one (thereby becoming ballas' "single issue independent"), the rest still remain.
(trilema) mp_en_viaje: "Real user monitoring data drives all aspects of Citrix Intelligent Traffic Management Citrix collects information from across more than 50,000 networks daily. Over 130 Clouds, CDNs and Datacenters are measured daily. Hundreds of millions of clients generate over 14 billion RUM data points every day."
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2019-05-03 08:18 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-03#1910992 << what exactly can possibly prevent you from keeping retarded dns if that;s what you want ? i mean, just because i'm not stuck editing /etc/hosts by hand all the time does it mean anything about that ?
(trilema) asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-03#1911006 << imho the correct use, given working gns, for errybody's stockpile of heathen dns names, is to park gateways
(trilema) mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-03#1910992 << what exactly can possibly prevent you from keeping retarded dns if that;s what you want ? i mean, just because i'm not stuck editing /etc/hosts by hand all the time does it mean anything about that ?
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2019-05-03 04:27 Mocky: I see embrace and extinguish as more appropriate for dns destruction (ala a dnsmasq-esque approach) than isolated bunkers. I mean, i could have joined up with republic prime instead, but they already completed work on gns prime, and maybe they passed out ip based links for a while, but eventually pulled up the ladders to their tree forts and now they can't even be found. So who knows if republic prime or double prime even exists.
(trilema) mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-03#1910987 > i haven't used civillian dns for what, two years now. i dont' care to, either. this usecase is massively more important than "fetlife slut". for one thing, fetlife slut ain't reading anything anyway ; for the other thing, nothing forces you to limit yourself to gns if you don't want to.
(trilema) diana_coman: Mocky: isn't the "right one" dns client you're talking about simply a bridge? i.e. sure, have as many bridges as you want, too, what exactly is the problem?
(trilema) Mocky: i would prefer, 'that link to mocky.istheshit/proof doesn't work? you must have a shitty dns client, here's the right one...'
(trilema) Mocky: I see embrace and extinguish as more appropriate for dns destruction (ala a dnsmasq-esque approach) than isolated bunkers. I mean, i could have joined up with republic prime instead, but they already completed work on gns prime, and maybe they passed out ip based links for a while, but eventually pulled up the ladders to their tree forts and now they can't even be found. So who knows if republic prime or double prime even exists.
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2019-05-01 07:44 mp_en_viaje: who wants to do the tmsr dns ? jurov ? mod6 ? Mocky maybe ? mats ?
(trilema) asciilifeform: granted , rk worx fine for 'traditional' soft, e.g. mp's wp ; but let's say 'tmsr dns' or other adatronic proggy becomes part of typical use, then wat.
(trilema) asciilifeform: ( or -- alternatively -- 'gateway' www , where e.g., http://foo.bar/btcbase.org/log , and hook all of our heathen dns records to point to said box, or a constellation of same ? )
(trilema) mp_en_viaje: who wants to do the tmsr dns ? jurov ? mod6 ? Mocky maybe ? mats ?
(trilema) mp_en_viaje: it's high fucking time we got off ass ; why is republican primary dns system something we're paying money to empire for ? why is the correct alternative in teh minority ?
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2016-11-14 12:58 mircea_popescu: (likely the patch will come in the shape of a dnsmasq clone, which will handle stuff like "tld" as well as things like http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-12#1566482 via settings etc)
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 14:25 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910215 << iirc it is actually possible for unauthenticated third party to renew dnsisms (provided the record is unchanged) . (anyone recall how ? and did i dream this? )
(trilema) asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910215 << iirc it is actually possible for unauthenticated third party to renew dnsisms (provided the record is unchanged) . (anyone recall how ? and did i dream this? )
(trilema) mp_en_viaje: phf, ok, but this is just some random connection with random dns. seems nobody knows the new one ? how do i get it ?
(trilema) asciilifeform: PeterL: phf slept through his dns expiry. http://104.131.72.249/log worx for nao.
(trilema) asciilifeform: incidentally, the dnsism -- Updated Date: 2019-04-29T08:52:01Z
(trilema) mp_en_viaje: to restate the point : there's no substantial difference between a) using dns/ntp ; b) running windows and c) writing your own code to run on your own hardware and interface with say dram.
(trilema) mp_en_viaje: i said i don't think so, and held them out for his inspection. he thanked me for my kindnss, i explained it's not so much kindness as duty, and we parted amicably.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other items of possible interest, http://freedns.afraid.org/domain/registry/
(trilema) mircea_popescu: asciilifeform at first i thought you went through the list of old dns responses/old servers and fished out one inexplicably not on mine
(trilema) mircea_popescu: dawg, check out their new dns!
(trilema) diana_coman: in other things, re http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1894896 -> this should now be fully sorted i.e. IP change for dianacoman.com propagated as far as I can see + redirection working fine for any link so please let me know if you still encounter trouble with any dead links; if you use only hosts (no DNS) then simply adding dianacoman.com on same IP as ossasepia should work seamlessly
(trilema) phf: if any log reader is getting a 404 not found, even if intermittent, please let me know. i was just getting it for a couple of minutes, but i can't figure out if that's the actual situation on the machine or some russian dns problem
(trilema) mircea_popescu: wasn't he here last year with the "media company" with no dns resolvers ?
(trilema) BingoBoingo: The anglophone press is saying sophisticated SSL fuckery is involved in the block rather than the usual DNS shennanigans
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm anticipating the whiners where 'you ~said~ you sell uncensored host, but they pulled my godaddy dns omfg!11' item
(trilema) asciilifeform: nao if they could also be persuaded to part with usg.dns... but i'd be satisfied to teach 'wash hands' , smallpox vaccination can happen after
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2019-01-03 23:21 jurov: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-03#1884230 << perhaps someone is avoiding DNS and has stale static IP entry in hosts.txt ?
(trilema) jurov: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-03#1884230 << perhaps someone is avoiding DNS and has stale static IP entry in hosts.txt ?
(trilema) trinque: afaik they're just displaying the rdns in deedbot's case, isn't a cloak
(trilema) mircea_popescu: those morons, cuz it's really not worth calling the http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/#footnote_6_65060 set people, are ~also~ approximately the barney sandals crowd, and the guy fawkes crowd.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: in fact, pretty much every single pantsuit mental cockroach can be deduced from a+b above, ~including~ the strictly contradictory bits, and also including the psychotic nonsednse that allows them to maintain contradictory beliefs.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-27#1875133 << it's not clear to me why we have ssl AT ALL. the idea is to replace that whole pile with straight rsa, much like we're taking out dns (and touched upon in same piece)
(trilema) mircea_popescu: if it has no dns servers it'll just do hosts and that's it.
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, trinque -- i'm not even certain dnsism exists on os level, aside from /etc/hosts -- possibly it is just in libc
(trilema) asciilifeform: ( ftr asciilifeform does not have a stable of slaves, like rms, or knuth, or mircea_popescu , to whom can order 'go fetch this from www for me' so that i can pretend i'm not using dns , email, ssl, etc. while still using when want )
(trilema) mircea_popescu: you want a dns record, you put it in.
(trilema) asciilifeform: i'd at least like ~variant~ where can switch off dns. ( sadly will prolly never be able to run entire fleet like this, i do quite a bit of interaction with heathen material as part of not only daily bread but research for tmsr works, interface with vendors, etc ) but even ~option~ is moar than what we had historically.
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2018-11-24 19:40 trinque: the libc's the guy doing all the dns-ism
(trilema) mircea_popescu: cracking dns, replacing with gns, makes the world fucking work already.
(trilema) trinque: no newfangled tmsr local dns server required
(trilema) trinque: yeah, I think what you're asking for is mostly a bunch of deletes. absent w/e upstream DNS lookup it can still snarf the /etc/hosts and nobody else in userland will care
(trilema) mircea_popescu: or w/e, drop-in replace dnscache if you're using djb's package ? or w/e it is ?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: of course this means i dunno, w/e downstream program, curl say, can STILL do dns the wrong way.
(trilema) trinque: so it reads only hosts file and doesn't know how to use remote DNS servers
(trilema) mircea_popescu: ok. currently cuntoo has some mechanisms to do dns, yes ?
(trilema) trinque: the libc's the guy doing all the dns-ism
(trilema) trinque: removing and cauterizing the dns mechanism in the libc is probably the thing, then. leaves no hole for it to return. if folks can also tolerate their local box always being called "localhost" no need for two, or alternatively they make room for local patches in their v workflow.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: ie, current dns system is simply lying as to the cost.
(trilema) trinque: I'll need to read up on how DNS resolution works in musl to recommend something strongly, but might be as simple as having it read a second hosts file. I don't know of any support for including one hosts file in another in either musl or glibc.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: trinque if i sign a genesis for republican dns, specifically, "here's ips and domain names, one set per line, that my lordship recognizes", are you willing to replace dns resolution in cuntoo with pressing that tree (according to the users' key dir, of course) ?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: (really should NOT "dns request" for mpex servers plox. or ~anything, really, but these especially. hosts file costs you nothing folks, wake up to this already. usg.dns costs you not merely your own life, but everyone else's along with it, as well as the very possibility of a world worth living)
(trilema) mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo some kinda dns issue, looking.
(trilema) trinque: it is, and I think it's a fool that tries to chase them into the "one moar magical DNS value" or misc other will make it work.
(trilema) asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: potentially interesting, but i suspect that it wont do much for the idjit heathens , who dun grasp even most basic step of hygiene , i.e. letting go of dnsism
(trilema) asciilifeform: dns is a decorative thing, e.g. asciilifeform , mircea_popescu , have dns names for www , but really ought to remember that it is decorative .
(trilema) asciilifeform: billymg: ( trb, for instance, doesn't even support dns lookup. i cut it with own hands; eats bare ip. )
(trilema) asciilifeform: billymg: most folx here use hand-curated /etc/hosts ; dns is largely for giving links to heathens
(trilema) jurov: Hi all thebitcoin.foundation is being switched to new server, not just the A record but whole DNS changed, there might be issues next few hours.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: "this salami costs as much as that cheese, ERGO THIS SALAMI IS THAT CHEESE". and this phone thing dns, and so on.
(trilema) asciilifeform: i suspect it's a dns-style racket, they purchase the #s somewhere & resell
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2018-09-22 21:17 asciilifeform: in unrelated lulz, 35.198.33.239 - - [22/Sep/2018:17:30:05 -0400] "GET /dnscfg.cgi?dnsPrimary=139.60.162.188&dnsSecondary=139.60.162.201&dnsDynamic=0&dnsRefresh=1 HTTP/1.1" 301 185 "-" "curl/7.52.1" "-"
(trilema) phf: Mocky: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/gmsRV/?raw=true you could set these options in firefox's about:config (there's probably a way to do it through gui), they are self explanatory. the last one ensures that dns is routed through socks. the first one can be either 1 or 0. i usually just go into about:config and toggle that to 1 when i need socks (there are probably extensions, etc. etc.)
(trilema) asciilifeform: the only commonplace heathen uses i'm aware of , use tiny packets (e.g. dns, iirc, 512)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: those reluctant to diddle /etc/hosts without seeing signed material first may: curl --header 'Host: cascadianhacker.com' 216.151.13.77/dns_update.txt
(trilema) asciilifeform: Run Moar dns...
(trilema) asciilifeform: ^ somebody's lolbot goes around and tries to find (some unknown to me) type of konsoomer lulzrouter, to reset dns root of
(trilema) asciilifeform: in unrelated lulz, 35.198.33.239 - - [22/Sep/2018:17:30:05 -0400] "GET /dnscfg.cgi?dnsPrimary=139.60.162.188&dnsSecondary=139.60.162.201&dnsDynamic=0&dnsRefresh=1 HTTP/1.1" 301 185 "-" "curl/7.52.1" "-"
(trilema) asciilifeform: diana_coman: observe, my lib is somewhat unorthodox, it tries to abstract entirely over the os socket, nails down a fixed packet length, ipv4 4evah, no 'nonblockisms' - who wants these, can implement via ada task; no dnsism supported at all, etc
(trilema) asciilifeform: sorta like glibc does with dns.
(trilema) asciilifeform: 'we already have box that stays up, but how will you make our dns stay'
(trilema) asciilifeform: 'bbut dns!111'
(trilema) mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-09#1840435 << useful in more than one way, actually ; we've had cases before where people dig'd by hand to see whether dns problem local or what.
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2018-08-09 14:29 jurov: yes, extra dns resolution could prove useful
(trilema) asciilifeform: 'Mozilla wants to override any configured DNS server with Cloudflare' << pretty lulzy
(trilema) jurov: yes, extra dns resolution could prove useful
(trilema) spyked: jurov, thanks for the idea! sbcl's resolver (sb-bsd-sockets:get-host-by-name) returns both addresses on my machine, but querying each of them for the banner might break the one-response-per-command rule (I could try to string them all together in one response, but I find that ugly). so maybe I could add DNS resolution as a separate command?
(trilema) jurov: spyked: when querying via DNS, perhaps show the IP address, too?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: thereby freeing me from a) the need to dns-check and b) the need to communicate my kyc history every time i pay ?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: it's not "apple". it's google, it's "fiat bonds". what, you're gonna issue fiat bonds, well, "gotta import this here 2mn loc of inane bs / assorted strange". it will include "gotta use ssh/dns/tor/etc" just as it will include "gotta http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-27#1830007 code of conduct" and so forth.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (of all wacky dns entries)
(trilema) mircea_popescu: otherwise... what ? STRICTLY only way to tell "do not load foreign pages" to "modern" browser is to turn off the dns port.
(trilema) Mocky: was cured first time i saw 'yeah this dns exploit reveals everything' immediately saw whole things as crock of shit
(trilema) mircea_popescu: see http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/ to get an idea where the republic's coming from re all this "convenience" and web n.0 bs.
(trilema) esthlos: doh, I had trinque's ip set to the old in /etc/hosts, from when I tried to follow mircea_popescu 's advice and disable dns lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wonder if your dns is hosed?
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2018-05-30 19:12 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-30#1819882 << i'll bet you it's the "absolutely must have" dns resolver.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-30#1819882 << i'll bet you it's the "absolutely must have" dns resolver.
(trilema) asciilifeform: ( if anyone forgot -- this is the weev crackpottery, that somehow oh-we-must-use-dns etc )
(trilema) asciilifeform: ssh useragent; ssl cert comment; if www host -- title of pg; if dns reverse lookupable - it also.
(trilema) asciilifeform: just nao with usg.dns
(trilema) mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, notice that the "headcount is the only criterion" is baked very deeply in their cvasi-brains. which is why the recent lulz with dns and http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756992
(trilema) mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, they fuck your dns zones for you.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: and meaning is still predicated on a structure of authority, and that structure WILL always be present ; the pretense to its absence is just that, a conceit. exactly like socrates' "everyone has a philosophy", if you "have no authority" backing your structure of meaning, you simply have the dumbest one, like the http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/#selection-711.0-711.610 idiots. it'
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the only interesting part is actually trinque-generated : the reverse-dns'd hostname of the ip ( e.g. olivetti.it )
(trilema) deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/501EDD3762C7C292208E0349D5CDFDD04D05E56ED6F086FA029EFC3746DC05E1 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1430...5939 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '200.89.73.15 (ssh-rsa key from 200.89.73.15 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (dns1.fen.uchile.cl. CL RM)
(trilema) deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/BF68CC2DF8423681620ECD62FD36DE95F5954AA271CC56E593D670EE2707DEEE << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1398...2773 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '88.80.200.14 (ssh-rsa key from 88.80.200.14 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (vcvps1578.vcdns.de. DE NW)
(trilema) mircea_popescu: managing yet-another-ad-hoc-dns... meh.
(trilema) trinque: deedbot is also providing the reverse DNS and geolocation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: diana_coman: website appears up to me, although that may just be /etc/hosts, i'm not up to speed on dns propagation yet
(trilema) mircea_popescu: i have nfi how this is even fucking possible, but my dns zone is currently ns1 ns2.minigame.bz EXCEPT the domain is .biz
(trilema) BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Do you need any DNS records other than one pointing to your slice?
(trilema) asciilifeform: trinque: and getting booted from heathen.dns, lol
(trilema) danielpbarron: heh, so the dns is working ok on your end?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: .126s without dns
(trilema) mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes do you realise the 0.5 is measured through dns and all that ? did you do same with nginx ?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: i don't believe it's either apache or mysql. i expect is unhappy interaction between your ad-hoc dns mapping and mp-wp.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so let me get this straight BigTexasBingo the daily derper can't rely on its people to catch up to new ip addresses but it can get the word of mouth out on new dns records?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: trinque there's two layers here. layer 1 : there's a lot of flexibility in letting it be rss ; i can have a rss reader read it for me rather than put all failure points in freenode-dns.
(trilema) BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: "no resolve" sounds like a side effect of the DNS settings allowing NFS to do its thing not pointing at an NFS doing its thing as advertised
(trilema) asciilifeform: because if so, their refusal to answer call to rereg it is iirc a violation of their imperial dns charter
(trilema) mircea_popescu: the disadvantage, of course, is that you have to now police a private, hand-cobbled dns, because ips change.
(trilema) asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-21#1788357 << it is 'broken' like this : you don't get a box (or even virtual box) with a particular ip, on nfs co, but rather a thing reminiscent of crapflare (but built ~20yrs prior) where the dns resolves as ip x for some loads, ip y for others, etc. so as to spread the ddosolade around. ( somewhat surprisingly, it actually worx -- eats multi-GB without coughing )
(trilema) mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo updated ; hopefully this time correctly. apparently they had a different process to register these than i thought, the edit dns zone tool dun do it.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: there's a manage dns for this domain on the right and a change nameservers on the top, and neither have an option for it.
(trilema) BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> hmm qntra heathendns still dun resolve? << Whois is still showing the same information
(trilema) asciilifeform: hmm qntra heathendns still dun resolve?
(trilema) asciilifeform: if it e.g. sends random page of ram as a coded dns packet every full moon, it will do this regardless of whether anyone photographed it, lol
(trilema) asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if it's supposed to already resolve on heathendns , it dun yet
(trilema) asciilifeform: considering the 'escape from dnsism' thing we have going, this actually matters
(trilema) caaddr: instead we have... what do we have? we have the blockchain but we're still using dns. we have common lisp but we're still using scheme, or, worse, clojure. we have ada but we're using rust. "we" being "we the people", as in the redditoid masses
(trilema) mircea_popescu: in the first place, what fucking browser, they're multiple, and closed turd vendor crap pushed by utter pantsuit like mozilla, a sort of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-13#1770138 samovar. in the second place, the interface is TERRIBLE, and i don't just mean "what javascript" but also "what ssl, what pki, what dns, what the fuck". and then "what html soup, why did it crash, holy hell why does it leak secret data" and on and ON
(trilema) mircea_popescu: the problem is not SIMPLY a bunch of fucktards who shop for price only. the cause they shop for price only is that a) http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/#selection-711.0-711.610 ie they hallucinate themselves in a position of authority from whence they can make choices in the first place and THEN b) because the position is fictive rather than actual, they need some sort of substitut
(trilema) BingoBoingo: In still other "run moar DNS" home routers are suffering own goals when running Google home shit because when one piece sleeps the others flood DNS "keep alive" packets
(trilema) shinohai: In the department of "run moar DNS" : http://archive.is/VkRZN
(trilema) asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-07#1766691 << it's not wholly unlike the old mpex.xyz dnsolade that today points to 'buy cardanocoin NAO!' etc
(trilema) mircea_popescu: the correct solution is http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/ and so on, ie -- no multiuser box. yank "ssh", yank the rest of the empire-on-your-box crapola and ignore the "problem" that dun exist.
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2017-12-30 21:38 esthlos: jawbone2: my 2cents: get a linode with a static ip for $5/mo. for a dynamic dns, run a cron sending your local ip to the linode, and a cron to edit your dns record accordingly on the remote. for the web server, either preroute remote's 80 to some local port, or just run it on non-80
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2017-12-30 20:11 ben_vulpes: a useful patch for folks in jawbone2 's position would update the results of getinfo to indicate whether trb considered a connection 'inbound' or 'outbound' so that you could determine if your dyndns hacks were working
(trilema) esthlos: jawbone2: my 2cents: get a linode with a static ip for $5/mo. for a dynamic dns, run a cron sending your local ip to the linode, and a cron to edit your dns record accordingly on the remote. for the web server, either preroute remote's 80 to some local port, or just run it on non-80
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a useful patch for folks in jawbone2 's position would update the results of getinfo to indicate whether trb considered a connection 'inbound' or 'outbound' so that you could determine if your dyndns hacks were working
(trilema) jawbone2: If I used Dynamic DNS to get a static IP would that get around this problem?
(trilema) jawbone2: Got it. Then I can just use Dynamic DNS to give me a permanent IP address right?
(trilema) asciilifeform: i should not need to look for a meta-document (with own sig, presumably) to know which group of patchons constitutes e.g. 'asciilifeform_dns_thermonyukyoolar_kleansing' .
(trilema) trinque: weevlos: thread was more that DNS is and will always be in the hands of the enemy.
(trilema) shinohai: http://archive.is/dz72r .... Something, something moar DNS .....
(trilema) mircea_popescu: does gentoo bake dns into the kernel, debian style ?
(trilema) asciilifeform: what's the charcount cap for dnsolade anyway
(trilema) mircea_popescu: wtf nonsense dns do these people use ? dig doesn't produce an ip ?!
(trilema) trinque: lobbes: that is probably hung up in dns purgatory. my hop from namecheap to namesilo just took, and namesilo didn't slurp all the old records.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: aye, on a heathen dnsulated thing
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2016-02-16 15:59 asciilifeform: 'The glibc DNS client side resolver is vulnerable to a stack-based buffer overflow when the getaddrinfo() library function is used. Software using this function may be exploited with attacker-controlled domain names, attacker-controlled DNS servers, or through a man-in-the-middle attack.'
(trilema) mircea_popescu: and STILL will not speak of how optional dns is.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nobody cares about dns records anymore apparently
(trilema) Ingolfr_Arnarson: I am just curious because I mentioned the idea of getting rid of dns and someone who actually reads the logs sent me a link to the article about draining the DNS Swamp.
(trilema) BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> may take some finagleing, usg.dns decided to be a bitch about ips so as to force ipv6 uptake. << Either way LACNIC is cheaper/(less competition for space) than APNIC
(trilema) mircea_popescu: may take some finagleing, usg.dns decided to be a bitch about ips so as to force ipv6 uptake.
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 19:39 asciilifeform: meanwhile in entomologies, http://yahozna.dyndns.org/scratch/loser.gif
(trilema) jhvh1: asciilifeform: Re: More Service Detection notes: HTTP, FTP, DNS, etc: <http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/2006/q2/207>; AppleTV & nmap -sV - Black Hills Information Security: <https://www.blackhillsinfosec.com/appletv-nmap-sv/>; linux - Rsyslogd Log entry about attack created by unknown ...: <https://superuser.com/questions/1091351/rsyslogd-log-entry-about-attack-created-by-unknown-application>
(trilema) asciilifeform: in other olds, http://yahozna.dyndns.org/scratch/genera/distribution/sys/sys2/bignum.lisp << ( and yes it is on the cd ) >> quite sad bignum stack imho
(trilema) asciilifeform: ( http://yahozna.dyndns.org/scratch/ quite interesting find, incl. massive symbolics lm pile . phf , do you know who he is ? )
(trilema) ang-st: look a bit more than dns
(trilema) shinohai: i on;y haz subdomain, need true dns 4 2 yrs
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2017-10-18 14:19 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-18#1726087 << mp’s wp worx on nfsco BUT not the comments spamfilter ( it relies on static ip ). nfsco is also incompatible with mp-style pill against dnsism ( 1980s hand-curated /etc/hosts ), see also http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-10#1654113 thread
(trilema) asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-18#1726087 << mp’s wp worx on nfsco BUT not the comments spamfilter ( it relies on static ip ). nfsco is also incompatible with mp-style pill against dnsism ( 1980s hand-curated /etc/hosts ), see also http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-10#1654113 thread

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