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mod6: BingoBoingo: Hey, sorry I never followed up on this before, but I didn't want to bug you; you've got a lot on your plate with accounting stuff.
mod6: But, can you fill me in on the details around the temporary blog spot?
mod6: I'm reposting all of my posts in raw form on mod6.net (in the process of it now), but wouldn't hurt to actually have a mpwp spot as a temporary measure in the mean time.
mod6: Ok thanks, will read.
BingoBoingo: It's not a Pizarro thing but a courtesy I've been extending to customers who ask for it.
BingoBoingo: mod6: While you're active, could you did up some loglinks to what exactly is the disposition of TBF's bond or whatever it is that was offered, extended to Pizarro
mod6: Sure, might be a few minutes tho. Is that ok?
mod6: ok, not minutes, maybe couple of hours.
mod6: Will start digging.
BingoBoingo: A few hours is fine.
mod6: Ok, I'm into the part no on 2018-02-18 where it's being discussed a bit with MP. I'm gonna keep reading though to find where exactly the definitive part is at. Might be a bit more time here.
mod6: also, there might be some important comments (maybe not, I don't know), but the page is down for http://pizarroisp.net/?p=3&cpage=1#comment-3
mod6: Here's where I'm currently reading...
mod6: I'll keep reading here though, but need to run a quick errand. bbs.
BingoBoingo: ty, I'll probably end up resurecting the site in a bit instead of searching pages in archive.is
mod6 looks
mod6: Ok. Well that was a proposal at one point...
mod6: Here's what I dug up from jurov 's Foundation accounting of the Month of February 2018: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/2018-March/000291.html
asciilifeform: mod6: my recollection ( dun have the log linx handy atm ) is that initially 5 from tbf, but then mod6 bought out its share w/ own steam.
asciilifeform: 2nd refuel was 5 from mod6 , and 3 + 1 fiatola dc refill from asciilifeform .
mod6: So it seems from the TBF statement, and I seem to recall this: That there was:
mod6: The Foundation provided bridge loan of 3.30072833 BTC to PizarroISP
mod6: which was used as following:
mod6: 1.0 Loan to PizarroISP convertible to equity
mod6: 0.36578855 Foundation bought 2 1U servers (8 cores 2.66 GHz, 48 GB RAM and 3 TB of SSD storage each)
mod6: 0.00072832 Transaction fees
mod6: 1.93421146 Funds returned to The Foundation
mod6: Where 1.93421146 was returned to The Foundation (noted as incoming at the top of the statement).
asciilifeform: if it's in BingoBoingo's books, then it goes, afaik they are accurate .
mod6: So the Foundation owns 2 servers. And a 1.0 BTC Loan to Pizarro.
mod6: And I believe that I have put in, two different times 5 BTC each time for a total of 10 BTC.
asciilifeform: ^ this defo
mod6: But I'll need to do some more log digging etc.
mod6: Anyway, hang tight, will post what I find.
snsabot: (trilema) 2019-03-29 BingoBoingo: <deedbot> Invoiced asciilifeform 3 << Pizarro Second Round pt 1, 4th and 5th pending << Slipped the !!v in the other window
asciilifeform: loox correct. ( tho mod6 , these are all era2, could plox use 1 of the echoing loggers ? anyone's ? )
mod6: does your logger have piz & trilema history back to this time?
asciilifeform: mod6: it does, as you can see from above link, for #t . i dun recall whether has entire piz tho
mod6: BingoBoingo: I don't suppose you have these two links available to archive do you? http://pizarroisp.net/?p=3
mod6: asciilifeform: ok let me repost them.
asciilifeform: mod6: all the deedbot mechanics lived in #t tho, so oughta suffice
asciilifeform: ( and not necessary to use mine, if you dun want, they're in diana_coman's and lobbes's likewise )
asciilifeform: mod6: i expect BingoBoingo has a complete copy of piz www, will retrieve when wakes up.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho might be good idea to stuff last known piz www copy into your temp box
BingoBoingo: Alright, I'll bring the whole www up in a bit. Anyways, the archive.is submission box is also a search box
asciilifeform: rather than rely on a.is
asciilifeform: btw in case anyone not noticed, diana_coman's bot is no longer here. mine and lobbes's are the only 1s presently logging this thrd.
mod6: asciilifeform: nothing found here: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pizarro/2018-02-18
mod6: BingoBoingo: thanks
asciilifeform: mod6: then it wasn't imported, apparently. ( iirc i asked for ben's #p dump but never got an answer )
asciilifeform bbl:meat
mod6: alright, well, no problem. it seems that diana_coman's doesnt have it either: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2018-02-18
mod6: BingoBoingo: ok from what I gather from the February 2018 Foundation Financial Report http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/2018-March/000291.html and http://archive.is/iMk3t this page (are there any newer versions?) that indeed, The Bitcoin Foundation loaned Pizarro 1.0 BTC.
mod6: This might be why it was not specifically placed in the charter. Anyway, remains a good question. I suspect early blog-posts from pizarroisp.net and finance statements may have further details on that. But as it stands, my memory of what TBF was owed, correctly aligns with what I'm finding in the documents.
mod6: Anyway, meanwhile, I'll keep digging for any further info.
mod6: BingoBoingo: archive page request, plz: http://pizarroisp.net/?p=19
mod6: Here's the BTF Refernce to the 1.0 BTC "Bridge Loan", see section 0x031: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/2018-March/000292.html
mod6: Also should note, the most current TBF Monthly Finance Report (September 2019) http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/2019-October/000340.html also states:
mod6: PizarroISP convertible loan BTC
mod6: 1.0 1.0 0
mod6: Under 'Intangibles'
mod6 looks
mod6: Ok great, this says the same thing 'loan (Foundation) 1.00000000'
mod6: So does it make sense that this loan is a liability on the books and needs to be repaid as well?
mod6: I'm a bit unsure on this question. Might be one for MP.
mod6: Or I suppose when you're done with the pre-closing statement, we can ask. Depends on how much more you have to do there.
mod6: Thoughts?
mod6: Oh yeah, I missed something... in this link from the first Pizarro statement... you'll see that in the Liabilities table an entry for "The Bitcoin Foundation 1.00000000".
mod6: Which seems to me, it goes right in to the same category as the (now) 0.9 BTC owed to S.NSA.
mod6: (Could be wrong, still tho.)
mod6: asciilifeform: also, if you want the historical logging info that goes way back, can get from phf somehow? (iirc he had some mechinism to download the database of the log... might have mis-remembered that tho)
mod6: BingoBoingo: Does this help at all, do you need more info from me?
mod6: (at least, for now?)
asciilifeform: mod6: phf never logged #p .
mod6: oh, nm. ok.
BingoBoingo: mod6: It helps a lot, ty.
BingoBoingo: ATM, just gotta continue the compiling, mathing, and re-mathing.
mod6: Ok, cool, np BingoBoingo
mod6: just holler if you need anything else.
BingoBoingo: mod6: Site should be coming back up once the dns is propagated.
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