lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-07#1950085 << I guess what I'm trying to ask is do you want me to release a separate mp-wp patch for the xmlrpc.php fixes before we deploy the bot?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 09:55:07 mircea_popescu: lobbes, the only problem is that e= is unpopulated. i'm currently using
lobbes: just to remind, it was decided that the bot itself would be on the stan logbot tree. And indeed, that is what the current mp-wp-bot.kv.vpatch rests on right now
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-07#1950107 << which relates to this; the above patched bot is still python-powered. (Granted, the flask bits have been removed, along with dependencies on things like the "Requests" library, etc.)
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 10:03:46 mircea_popescu: i don't foresee any future for the current python-powered item.
lobbes: But still, python-istic at the core (which does comply with your original spec).
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/pizarro-liquidation-auction-preview-photos/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Pizarro Liquidation Auction Preview - Photos
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-07#1950130 << I do not. There exist both the irssi2tmsr and znc2tmsr patches to the stanlogger. In said logger, both of them convert logs to a format that is then fed to the postgres database. Conceivable to just make something similar, though, that would feed them into a mysql database
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 11:26:57 mircea_popescu: lobbes, an unexpected point occurs. do you have a chatlog eater tool ?
lobbes: on the subject of "blog-logger" in general, I do see merits. For e.g., as a matter of course the issue of echoing log lines will need to be resolved. If that resolution ends up leveraging the server-side selection, then this opens the door to the quoting articles ~in general~ into IRC
lobbes: another merit being redundancy; if you run a blog, you can run a log.
lobbes: on second thought, I guess redundancy doesn't necessarily follow from "more convenient to run a logger". Okay, I restate my second merit to simply be: "convenience" (for what that is worth)
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-07#1950193 << not necessarily.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-07 21:31:39 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-07#1950085 << I guess what I'm trying to ask is do you want me to release a separate mp-wp patch for the xmlrpc.php fixes before we deploy the bot?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 09:55:07 mircea_popescu: lobbes, the only problem is that e= is unpopulated. i'm currently using
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-07 21:31:42 lobbes: just to remind, it was decided that the bot itself would be on the stan logbot tree. And indeed, that is what the current mp-wp-bot.kv.vpatch rests on right now
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-07#1950196 << it's supposed to be ; the only alternative for pull-style interaction would be... bash, i guess ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-07 21:31:48 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-07#1950107 << which relates to this; the above patched bot is still python-powered. (Granted, the flask bits have been removed, along with dependencies on things like the "Requests" library, etc.)
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 10:03:46 mircea_popescu: i don't foresee any future for the current python-powered item.
mircea_popescu: i guess i didn't make myself very clear. the ~displayer~, python-based as opposed to apache based, has no future.
mircea_popescu: the bot itself, the part that goes into channels and so on, that'll have to be something other than apache.
mircea_popescu: practical candidates being pretty much python or perl, there's no problem with python
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-07#1950200 << i guess i'm just going to write a converter ; which begs the question, how are we to sync our log histories here ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-07 22:02:48 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-07#1950130 << I do not. There exist both the irssi2tmsr and znc2tmsr patches to the stanlogger. In said logger, both of them convert logs to a format that is then fed to the postgres database. Conceivable to just make something similar, though, that would feed them into a mysql database
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 11:26:57 mircea_popescu: lobbes, an unexpected point occurs. do you have a chatlog eater tool ?
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-07#1950202 << this is actually a pretty great idea, bot could echo anything inside a #select-ed <span></span>
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-07 22:09:38 lobbes: on the subject of "blog-logger" in general, I do see merits. For e.g., as a matter of course the issue of echoing log lines will need to be resolved. If that resolution ends up leveraging the server-side selection, then this opens the door to the quoting articles ~in general~ into IRC
mircea_popescu: couldja patch this in ?
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-08#1950213 << aa okay. For whatever reason I didn't take your meaning, but now I get it.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-08 02:45:51 mircea_popescu: i guess i didn't make myself very clear. the ~displayer~, python-based as opposed to apache based, has no future.
lobbes: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-07#1950216 << Is syncing necessary with blog-log though?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-07 22:50:54 mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-07#1950200 << i guess i'm just going to write a converter ; which begs the question, how are we to sync our log histories here ?
lobbes: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-07#1950221 << I don't mind setting out to do so, but I also don't want to delay the bot's deployment (I have found that I am quite slow and inexperienced still). Would you want this patch before deployment?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-07 22:53:05 mircea_popescu: couldja patch this in ?
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1949938 <-- can't say yet whether that'd take 1.5 or 3 months, but... it was my understanding that http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-21#1947274 is a pretty important item. either way, as I've said before, that plan ain't set in stone, any suggestions/guidance on priorities is more than welcome. I [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 12:37:54 mircea_popescu: gawd, spyked, two months of irc bots till the end of the year ? srsly ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 06:15:42 mp_en_viaje: the second, which is the hanging matter, is that i meanwhile specced a new functioning of ratings and voicing, the to-spec execution of which being the very bedrock upon which deedbot payments even work. come april or whatever, i'm not about to do the old style lordship ratings,
spyked: 1947777][did agree] to work on that tho, so would also like to hear from trinque re this
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 12:23:06 diana_coman: takes a note to mirror spyked's sigs too
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1950067 <-- I'd really like to contribute to that, the only reason I didn't do it thus far being that there was always a pile of other shit to do
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 23:46:53 trinque: yeah, I'd be happy to talk to both fellas about the thing.
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1950052 <-- xfce is prolly a rabbit hole, afaik they pull in gtk3 nowadays... and even gtk2 might be difficult to link statically.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 23:17:53 BingoBoingo: trinque: Provided I get it running this time I'll at a minimum try to get up to XFCE. I'll make and rate a BingoCuntooExperimenal key for the purpose of something.
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1950016 <-- the big risk with the latter choice is that "they" (whoever owns ubuntu or w/e nowadays) will happily steer their os towards breaking the unix standard base (ls, cp, etc. system calls, ...) in the future. systemd lies on that line at least
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 22:32:10 mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1949990 << the thing here is, minigame will need to use a os. this means a very simple binary choice : either it uses something made by us, or not. the criteria for the former is that someone's in charge ; the criteria for the latter is that it's convenient.
spyked bbl, will post feedbot spec later today
mircea_popescu: fucking gtk pile of shit has to die.
mircea_popescu: x needs it like empire paris needed the postwar moroccans & contemporary french white trash.
mircea_popescu: "oh, we had to live somewhre... why not here ???" "go live in a fire."
mircea_popescu: in other news, an' in preparation for http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-07#1950131 / part and parcel of my being an engineer, i'm currently restructuring my entire personal archive, which consists of moving / hashing / decrypting / unpacking various 10gb - 100gb files.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-07 07:29:35 mircea_popescu: because i'm thinking... i should probably just import all antique logs, have them in one place finally.
mircea_popescu: it's quite a pleasure to watch otherwise powerful systems bogged down for hours at a time, diligently going through overpoweringly long lists of tasks in their usual, bulldozer-like systematic manner, while one twiddles his thumbs and grins.
mircea_popescu: the formative experience of humanity, i'd say.
mircea_popescu: but, on the good news score : this'll prolly result in the publishing of all sort and manner of historical material, trilema's gonna get red hot in november.
mircea_popescu: lol dorion, nice pile of lulz you got there. diana_coman has the details, but in very general : gotta take it easier, man. it's just... it's the internet, you know ?
mircea_popescu: anon rando tortard's both very abundant and systematically inconsequential, dunno how to best put this... there's nine million cul-de-sac suburban teenager cliques "taking over the world" during that summer before end of schooling and first full time job. it doesn't DO anything.
mircea_popescu: it's a social game, some old bitty bidding three clubs at her bridge club isn't treasonable thereby
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's always a nice feeling to bog down a computer with your own history.
mircea_popescu: ikr!
BingoBoingo: Sure, the computer's normally working for you, but when else do you really get to stress the machine on something satisfying? Games bogging down the computer are frustrating, compiling is... something, but a bunch of tar commands... nice to see something made with nanometer precision and operating at gigahertz need take the time to handle shit that matters.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in ancient lulz, http://archive.is/4jJrs#selection-3112.25-3147.45
BingoBoingo: Ah, Ye Olde "Hurr Durr, Imma keep incrementing version numbers and solicit support for doing so while also not testing to see if I am breaking anything by incrementing version numbers"
BingoBoingo: In a local fuss from earlier this week, derps commissioned some of the murals of the sort they commision here, all of the associated commentary was... "Next week they'll just cover it with either hammers and sickles or their damned graphs"
BingoBoingo: Because part of the local commie election propaganda is... Painting graphs on undefended walls. The sort of bad graphs that ignore inflation happened, etc
BingoBoingo: They then pat each other on the head about how they are some sorta sophisticates for polluting the scenery with bad graphs instead of bad art.
mircea_popescu: building the "empire of science", because what are orcs for, if not to mindlessly parrot whatever lulz mother inca got assraped with.
BingoBoingo: I've been taking a half hour each day to check the Commie melt down in the local papers. Central Committee had to tell their militants to stop calling the opposition "fachos, conservadores, y rosaditos" because it's sinking their own likeability. Now I may be naive, but it seems a large portion of the FA would prefer to throw the presidential race this cycle so they can derp and strike for 5 year and generally parroting the Argentines.
hanbot: BingoBoingo are they supposedly graphs of something in particular (lemmeguess, progre-ss), or just the usual preoccupation with erection-arrows?
BingoBoingo: hanbot: These are graph covering shit like "expenditures per child", "education funding", etc. They graphs are NOT however "education outcomes", because ~5 years ago those sunk below Para-rotary-guay's
BingoBoingo: Despite spending per pupil more than doubling (accounting for inflation)
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2019/11/08/an-appeal-for-enemies/ << Ossa Sepia -- An Appeal for Enemies
hanbot: BingoBoingo frankly i'm surprised they've the wherewithal to label x and y. must be a little less samba north of the river
BingoBoingo: hanbot: Their campaign logo however is a fast forward symbol in "red, white, and blue" because everyone knows those are commit colors. People put that work sticker on their fucking WORK VEHICLES (i.e. delivery motorcycles)
BingoBoingo: hanbot: Historically over here they were proud of high "literacy" rates for dubious definitions of literacy.
BingoBoingo: hanbot: THe graph graffiti is mostly a thing in the transition barrios, a bit around Centro, and incredibly common in the outer barrios. Here in the "go to work" barrios with comemrcial activity they stick mostly to hammers and sickles
hanbot: ahahaha commit colors indeed. kinda interesting that "claim disused public platform" still occurs first, over "make own", even in meatspace. "it's not worth making my own thing for this half-hearted non-message" "so stfu" "can't, i'm an activist"
mircea_popescu: oddly, it never occurs to them that all this time they spend trying to spread their hate could be better spent doing something useful.
mircea_popescu: "oh, our hateful idiocy is not hate" "whynot ?" "because... ours" "but you're nobody" "judge things on their merits!!!"
hanbot: useful is boring. spraypaints have VOCs.
BingoBoingo: Well, the way the coalition is split Partido Communista is blue color workers in State enterprises, Partido Socialist is White Collar workers in State enterprises, Mujica's MPP (the largest block) is pichis and mommies.
mircea_popescu: and everyone's supposed to not notice the miami worship / vhs america theme ? what are they gonna do fi they win, build a time machine and go eat with reagan, the last time the us mattered ?
BingoBoingo: Explicit Miami worship is more of a thing in the old, rather dead Partido Colorado. Uruguay's original take on Tammany Hall.
BingoBoingo: The FA groups do Miami worship while claiming Havana worship
mircea_popescu: practically the same thing
BingoBoingo: Except the Partido Socialista who declares Oslo worship
BingoBoingo: But yes, same thing sloppier labeling
BingoBoingo: The Cubans do the thing here where they send their slave doctors to compete with local medical specialists. The 45,000-ish pesos a month unspecialized primary care physicians make here is more than enough to set the bozo bit on work in the medical field.
BingoBoingo: The hate the country has for the city's eaters here well exceeds the anomisity present in the Chicago/Illinois split
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, in substitute-monroe-actually-delivers news, http://www.celebritying.com/sexypics/jayne-mansfield-pussy/jayne-mansfield-pussy-and-boobs-3.jpg
BingoBoingo: Nice find
BingoBoingo: And now to fire off the auctions:
BingoBoingo: !Xsell 1mn 168 Selling the server formerly known as UY1 no FUCKGOATS, no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
auctionbot: Sell order # 1064 created by BingoBoingo: Selling the server formerly known as UY1 no FUCKGOATS, no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Opening: 1mn ecu Ending: 2019-11-15 21:37:54.887600 UTC (167 hours)
BingoBoingo: !Xsell 5mn 168 Selling the server formerly used for S.MG Testing with FUCKGOATS, no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
auctionbot: Sell order # 1065 created by BingoBoingo: Selling the server formerly used for S.MG Testing with FUCKGOATS, no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Opening: 5mn ecu Ending: 2019-11-15 21:38:11.900525 UTC (167 hours)
BingoBoingo: !Xsell 5mn 168 Selling the server formerly used as S.MG Production with FUCKGOATS, no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
auctionbot: Sell order # 1066 created by BingoBoingo: Selling the server formerly used as S.MG Production with FUCKGOATS, no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Opening: 5mn ecu Ending: 2019-11-15 21:38:28.450290 UTC (167 hours)
BingoBoingo: !Xsell 22mn 168 Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
auctionbot: Sell order # 1067 created by BingoBoingo: Server formerly used for Qntra and DNS, no FG no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Opening: 22mn ecu Ending: 2019-11-15 21:38:38.780227 UTC (167 hours)
BingoBoingo: !Xsell 100 168 Two switches used in the late Pizarro's server rack; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
auctionbot: Sell order # 1068 created by BingoBoingo: Two switches used in the late Pizarro's server rack; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Opening: 100 ecu Ending: 2019-11-15 21:38:56.904013 UTC (167 hours)
BingoBoingo: !Xsell 1mn 168 Former Pizarro RockChip Plant, no used USB drives; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Notes. Tools In photo are included for scale as the plant as configured requires more than one rack unit of height to mount. Pliers not included in plant, but screwdriver is negotiable.
auctionbot: Sell order # 1069 created by BingoBoingo: Former Pizarro RockChip Plant, no used USB drives; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Notes. Tools In photo are included for scale as the plant as configured requires more than one rack unit of height to mount. Pliers not included in plant, but screwdriver is negotiable. Opening: 1mn ecu Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:12.652465 UTC (167 hours)
BingoBoingo: !Xsell 55mn 168 Lot of 5 unused Samsung 1 TB SSDs; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
auctionbot: Sell order # 1070 created by BingoBoingo: Lot of 5 unused Samsung 1 TB SSDs; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Opening: 55mn ecu Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:24.229818 UTC (167 hours)
BingoBoingo: !Xsell 33mn 168 Lot of 2 Unused and 1 lightly used Samsung SSDs; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
auctionbot: Sell order # 1071 created by BingoBoingo: Lot of 2 Unused and 1 lightly used Samsung SSDs; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Opening: 33mn ecu Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:41.809261 UTC (167 hours)
BingoBoingo: !Xsell 1 168 Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
auctionbot: Sell order # 1072 created by BingoBoingo: Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Opening: 1 ecu Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:57.226390 UTC (167 hours)
BingoBoingo: !Xsell 40mn 168 Lot of 4 FUCKGOATS used; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
auctionbot: Sell order # 1073 created by BingoBoingo: Lot of 4 FUCKGOATS used; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Opening: 40mn ecu Ending: 2019-11-15 21:40:16.614209 UTC (167 hours)
BingoBoingo: !Xsell 1mn 168 1U chassis with two servers and one power supply, one unused 6TB WD Red 3.5" HDD; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
auctionbot: Sell order # 1074 created by BingoBoingo: 1U chassis with two servers and one power supply, one unused 6TB WD Red 3.5" HDD; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Opening: 1mn ecu Ending: 2019-11-15 21:40:28.384179 UTC (167 hours)
BingoBoingo: Photo preview of the merchandise, once again lives here
dorion: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-08#1950249 << heh, I half expected that, thanks. I acted on bias to share the lulz and laugh now rather than be silent about something of potential importance and cry later.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-08 06:39:24 mircea_popescu: lol dorion, nice pile of lulz you got there. diana_coman has the details, but in very general : gotta take it easier, man. it's just... it's the internet, you know ?
mircea_popescu: makes sense.
diana_coman: bvt: it occurs to me that you actually added some vpatch(es?) to vtools eg support for files in vtree root ; do you have /mirror the full tree somewhere?
diana_coman: my frozen snapshot in the starter_v is a press only up to vtools_ksum and I think it's time for an updated version really
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/2019/feed-bot-spec-proposal << The Tar Pit -- Feed bot spec proposal
bvt: diana_coman: setting up a mirror with everything is still in TODO for me.
bvt: not that it takes a lot of time, i guess i just never properly noted it down. will do after the measurements
auctionbot: Sell order # 1073: Lot of 4 FUCKGOATS used; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 40mn from jurov. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:40:16.614209 UTC (163 hours 46 mins)
auctionbot: Sell order # 1072: Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 1mn from asciilifeform. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:57.226390 UTC (163 hours 32 mins)
auctionbot: Sell order # 1065: Selling the server formerly used for S.MG Testing with FUCKGOATS, no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 5mn from asciilifeform. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:38:11.900525 UTC (163 hours 29 mins)
auctionbot: Sell order # 1066: Selling the server formerly used as S.MG Production with FUCKGOATS, no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 5mn from asciilifeform. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:38:28.450290 UTC (163 hours 30 mins)
auctionbot: Sell order # 1072: Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 2mn from lobbes outbidding asciilifeform. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:57.226390 UTC (161 hours 44 mins)
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/11/black-colorado-state-student-persecuted-for-blackface-costume/ << Qntra -- Black Colorado State Student Persecuted For Blackface Costume