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diana_coman: so uhm, basically it has to be a different mp-wp installation for logtron specifically?
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, how appealing does the following sound to you : 1. run an instance of logbot, feeding the log into your mp-wp db, so that each day is publishd as a new post ; 2. have a special category for these, such as "logs" or w/e ; add a special search page, such that if one introduces a term is fed a list of days that include it, with the term preselected in the page by url.
asciilifeform not eaten mp-wp, does not know whether it includes enableable public search function somewhere, and if so whether can be easily repurposed for by-line srch
mp_en_viaje: mp-wp entirely exists as "this thing that displays a database" thing. if you already have a thing that feeds a database, and miss athing that displays it, then mp=wp very well could be it.
mp_en_viaje: it ~occurs to me~ however, that some trivial glue would readily turn a db pre-populated by this logbot into mp-wp pages.
mp_en_viaje: wth is this bullshit, anyway! left to own devices how about we just driftwood forever into nothingness! when i discovered a problem with mp-wp, at night in fucking minsk, i was also ~publishing~ a solution the next fucking morning, what the everloving fuck already.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: I'm not familiar with crontab, but your db user has full privileges on the mp-wp blog's database
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-20#1924044 << in so many words, nope. moreover, mp-wp cookie based admin login is not safe with open ip login, because cookie can get trivially stolen on any js enabled browser.
BingoBoingo: Now, mp-wp does have a user role facility that allows restricting what different user names get to do.
BingoBoingo: Well, mp-wp also has all of the dashboard including living in /wp-admin as well including the page for making posts.
asciilifeform loox in his notebook and finds also 'hm why not let mp-wp highlight selects on server-end, so machines w/out js display highlights' but also never attempted this, notenuff phpfu
diana_coman: I mean ofc mp-wp there.
diana_coman: I knew I did it before but on standard wp and I hadn't looked at mp-wp
BingoBoingo: mp-wp has a user management feature. As long as they are interacting with the shared account through mp-wp they shouldn't be setting up irc bouncers to draw aggro by evangelizing Pantsuited tonterias
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: asciilifeform does the mp-wp install on a shared account with pizarro work with multiple authors?
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-09#1922151 << if you dig through mp-wp guts there's a means to auto-adjust image size to order for a batch of images. the uploader uses it.
Mocky: BingoBoingo: I have my blog posts migrated over to the mp-wp you set up for me on UY1, I want to switch over and have mocky.org served from there. What's a good way to do that?
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-26#1920121 << I'll try shimming the select script in. Qntra is still on a not quite mp-wp fork due to the DB changes that happened between mp-wp and qntra-wp forking from derppress
mircea_popescu: because it occurs to me that ~if~ you publish your codebase you're working on, and if your blog works correctly in the mp-wp sense, then therefore you get all this for free, just make a metapost.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-27 21:35 diana_coman: in other stepping-in-all-the-holes : it seems I found a fail-mode of mp-wp browser interface namely if one pastes the content of a post first and only then (possibly after it rushes to quick save it or whatevers) the title, it fails miserably as it apparently tries to save it with title "" (notwithstanding that no, it should not, there is actually a title to it)
PeterL: hi there, I made a small vpatch for MP-WP, because the text selection was not working: http://peterl.xyz/2019/06/vpatch-for-text-selection-fix/
diana_coman: in other stepping-in-all-the-holes : it seems I found a fail-mode of mp-wp browser interface namely if one pastes the content of a post first and only then (possibly after it rushes to quick save it or whatevers) the title, it fails miserably as it apparently tries to save it with title "" (notwithstanding that no, it should not, there is actually a title to it)
mp_en_viaje: certainly displays the patience required, to, eg, make a quite pretty mp-wp clone in python.
mp_en_viaje: stjohn_piano_2, why not make a mp-wp tree patch then ?
mp_en_viaje: ok, so don't use that. just because random plugin was written by tard doesn't invalidate either php as a ... text processor, nor wp plugins as an extension framerowkr for mp-wp
lobbesbot: PeterL: Sent 1 day, 16 hours, and 28 minutes ago: <billymg> yup, if you want the patch that fixes svg image links you can grab mp-wp_update-image-references-to-svg from here http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=mp-wp&search= - although i recommend going for the latest patch on that page
billymg: been meaning to make some tweaks to my mp-wp guide and will include that update
a111: Logged on 2019-04-20 19:59 billymg: anyway, i updated php on my server to include gd and it indeed works fine. so for now the latest patch for mp-wp is the one i personally recommend/support
billymg: anyway, i updated php on my server to include gd and it indeed works fine. so for now the latest patch for mp-wp is the one i personally recommend/support
billymg: but yeah, the "mp-wp roadmap proposal" post is something i've been meaning to do
mircea_popescu: now ~whether~ it can or can not resize images, that'd be part of mp-wp, and i expect it'd work, but your current theme doesn't expose the functionality
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, it's altogether dubious mp-wp is program, or really anything other than an overgrown script.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-30 20:20 feedbot: http://billymg.com/2019/03/the-mp-wp-weightloss-program/ << billymg -- The mp-wp weightloss program
feedbot: http://billymg.com/2019/03/the-mp-wp-weightloss-program/ << billymg -- The mp-wp weightloss program
billymg: in terms of test suite, i didn't actually write any automated tests for mp-wp, i only meant the manual testing i did, plus reading my own patch a few times
a111: Logged on 2019-03-27 17:14 mircea_popescu: billymg, if you're happy with it, one thing you could do is patch your testing suite as an alternate patch off mp-wp genesis ; this way people looking to test can just use it (and patch atop it if need be) rather than write from scratch.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, word. it's more a thing for something like mp-wp, which is a sort of enduser app so to speak, than something like eucrypt that's basically a library, or in any case a building block intended for use in forging.
mircea_popescu: billymg, if you're happy with it, one thing you could do is patch your testing suite as an alternate patch off mp-wp genesis ; this way people looking to test can just use it (and patch atop it if need be) rather than write from scratch.
billymg: a freshly pressed copy of the divergent patch found here http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=mp-wp&search= has been running on my blog since sunday though
mircea_popescu: Mocky, pressing something's a good idea, for sure, even if it's just some patches on mp-wp chain say.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-25 12:37 mircea_popescu: phf, why does http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_remove-tinymce-and-other-crud not look the same as http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_html-comments-enabled ? i want ?inlinep=true FOREVAR!!!!
hanbot: meanwhile billymg phf mircea_popescu et al my patch from last night needed a reground, sorry for the pain in the ass. http://thewhet.net/2019/03/mp-wp-patch-for-enabling-html-comments/
mircea_popescu: phf, and since i'm doing whining : can there be an alternate mode where lines are always interleaved, like in this beauty ? eg, http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_add-footnotes-and-textselectionjs#selection-5661.0-5158.160 and http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_add-footnotes-and-textselectionjs#selection-5335.0-5158.58 needn't appear that far apart (leaving asi
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=mp-wp&search= << keks they ended up diverged. normally i'd ask hanbot to regrind, except this is a large patch that needs some reading, so would you mind regrinding it on top of hers billymg ?
phf: hanbot, billymg i've refreshed the patches http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=mp-wp
feedbot: http://thewhet.net/2019/03/mp-wp-patch-for-enabling-html-comments/ << The Whet -- MP-WP Patch for Enabling HTML Comments
billymg: hanbot, mircea_popescu, anyone else interested: i just finished deploying the latest mp-wp patch to my site and published the files here http://billymg.com/mp-wp-vtree/
billymg: hanbot: let me know if trying to press again with the patches from http://billymg.com/mp-wp-vtree/ doesn't work and i can look into it
hanbot: (specifically : File: */mp-wp/wp-admin/custom-header.php Expected: 3e4322c7d8f1757f883a9f11abec332b8c952d7b050c801e4ba60e72853509f0603e0ea63b093dacf4ca158fe309043984900efa5ea0348c2d1cd9d0eb46388f Actual: 05f567bca8d936ec36e315dd8b667a8654fbcb256758165986810db3f5402d3a9fdf1d3d4bc00de626d627d7e997da9ee08e5261127a216199ce8ff661a4c600 )
hanbot: 1. if i try to press the current head of mp-wp (ie, including the patches, either as reconstructed from our blogs or as maintained on btcbase), it dies with a hash mismatch
billymg: hanbot: phf: the patches and sigs for the mirrored mp-wp tree can be found here http://billymg.com/mp-wp-vtree/
hanbot: phf mp-wp patchset looks good, tyvm.
phf: diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=mp-wp i've added the two patches from billymg, please let me know if i'm missing anything
hanbot: billymg: these are the totality of your mp-wp patches, yes? http://billymg.com/2019/01/minor-mp-wp-patch-updates/ ; i don't recall anyone else having patches, please chime in if you do. meanwhile phf please add <--- to mp-wp tree, and i'ma solder these to the genesis after which danielpbarron i'd be happy to show you how to make a vpatch for your fix.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: I'll have to dig. Qntra's not on mp-wp yet.
mircea_popescu: mp-wp is actually broken
mircea_popescu: how long ago was this install ? i mean, mp-wp hasn't been around long enough for you to have changed something by hand ~and forgot~, is it ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman factually, it works on mine, and on all other mp-wp installs ~but yours~.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman this is truly all i head. are you using a mp-wp or own roll ?
a111: Logged on 2019-02-04 12:54 spyked: more generally: although I've been tempted to switch to mp-wp, I'm still hoping to grow the current thetarpit code base into a minimal cl-based mp-wp-like blogotron. I'ma also put a genesis on the todo list.
billymg: to describe my overall thinking/strategy with mp-wp, i would like to 1) rip out everything not absolutely necessary for the basic functions of blogging/moderating 2) after arriving at the bare minimum, fit what's left in my head to then evaluate ways to simplify/improve/rewrite
mircea_popescu: nobody gives a shit about "ease of use" in that sense, only way to import into mp-wp is via flatfile anyway. so knock yourself out with all that.
billymg: for example, the "wysiwyg" editor, tinymce, that is packaged with wordpress. do any of the current mp-wp users use this? i personally edit in the raw-html input for posts
billymg: i was finally able to get back to some mp-wp work this weekend, with the focus of ripping out unnecessary LOC. after some time getting oriented again it took a few hours to remove ~5k lines just from some "google gears" thing and various "importers" for importing posts from other platforms
BingoBoingo: <Mocky> it goes well, getting my blog moved over to mp-wp. finding a 2.7 compatible theme << The default chops up rather nicely
Mocky: it goes well, getting my blog moved over to mp-wp. finding a 2.7 compatible theme
mircea_popescu: the hole people continue to give mp-wp a bad name i see.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-08 10:50 spyked: moreover, the same item will be useful for adding comments to thetarpit's cl blogotron, implementing mp-wp-anti-spam for the same, etc.
spyked: moreover, the same item will be useful for adding comments to thetarpit's cl blogotron, implementing mp-wp-anti-spam for the same, etc.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the "i handrolled my own mp-wp, by hand" lulzchronicles, 2008 edition, http://archive.is/Jt2js#selection-39.0-39.293
a111: Logged on 2019-02-10 23:33 BingoBoingo adds "human readable urls" to mp-wp setup steps
BingoBoingo adds "human readable urls" to mp-wp setup steps
mircea_popescu: actually, a completely curl-tomated mp-wp interaction thingee would be a great addition to mp-wp itself, imo.
mircea_popescu: though honestly, if i wanted to vim-face mp-wp, i'd put a vimterface on ~mysql~ directly, rather than the wp wrapper.
shinohai: I dunno if in logs, but I tried this with mp-wp couple years back and didn't get it working properly. https://github.com/dsawardekar/wordpress.vim
asciilifeform: mp-wp seems to work great , but asciilifeform hobbles when tryin' to modify it, php feels inescapably like cobol when i work with it
a111: Logged on 2019-02-04 12:54 spyked: more generally: although I've been tempted to switch to mp-wp, I'm still hoping to grow the current thetarpit code base into a minimal cl-based mp-wp-like blogotron. I'ma also put a genesis on the todo list.
spyked: more generally: although I've been tempted to switch to mp-wp, I'm still hoping to grow the current thetarpit code base into a minimal cl-based mp-wp-like blogotron. I'ma also put a genesis on the todo list.
mircea_popescu: aaanyway, i dunno if specifically should or shouldn't be included in mp-wp, but it's certainly there published to be coopted if useful.
Mocky: BingoBoingo can you set me up with mp-wp in my wwwhabeeb directory on uy1 for mockyhabeeb.com? I want to see what migrating my blog will involve.
mircea_popescu: but i am discouraged by the result of the training exercise for this matter, where apparently in spite of attempts to standardize the infinitely more complex mp-wp, the result was similarly tower of bable.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-04 17:32 asciilifeform: junkyard wars (e.g. trb, mp-wp) where one is stuck welding a tank from 5 zaporozhets and 3 lada carcasses, because that's what there is to work with, inevitably are heavyweight
deedbot: hanbot rated billymg 1 << Thorough MP-WP patchworker.
hanbot: !!rate billymg 1 Thorough MP-WP patchworker.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 17:54 billymg: !Q later tell hanbot mp-wp patches have been updated: http://billymg.com/2019/01/minor-mp-wp-patch-updates/ -- the only "\ No newline at end of file" strings you should find in .svg refs patch are from before part of the diff (i.e. file diffed had no newline at the end)
lobbesbot: hanbot: Sent 1 day, 10 hours, and 22 minutes ago: <billymg> mp-wp patches have been updated: http://billymg.com/2019/01/minor-mp-wp-patch-updates/ -- the only \ No newline at end of file strings you should find in .svg refs patch are from before part of the diff (i.e. file diffed had no newline at the end)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-13#1886499 << yeah, dunno if youi're using mp-wp or not, but in any case, it has a filter thingee you can turn off/adsjust
billymg: !Q later tell hanbot mp-wp patches have been updated: http://billymg.com/2019/01/minor-mp-wp-patch-updates/ -- the only "\ No newline at end of file" strings you should find in .svg refs patch are from before part of the diff (i.e. file diffed had no newline at the end)
a111: Logged on 2019-01-09 04:53 hanbot: billymg, phf: in billymg's latest mp-wp vpatch (http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-07#1885285), i see the old "\ No newline at end of file" spew on two of the touched files (was symptom of bug last yr: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-25#1786014). still indicative of proablem with presser/patch?
a111: Logged on 2019-01-07 04:31 billymg: hanbot: i put together a patch for the svg links mentioned earlier: http://billymg.com/2019/01/mp-wp-vpatch-update-internal-image-references-to-point-to-svg-extensions/
hanbot: billymg, phf: in billymg's latest mp-wp vpatch (http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-07#1885285), i see the old "\ No newline at end of file" spew on two of the touched files (was symptom of bug last yr: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-25#1786014). still indicative of proablem with presser/patch?
mircea_popescu: nope. analoguous to "oh, this bureaucracy can't just put mp-wp on, gotta spend 5mns to pay some indian monkey $500 to wing an "in house" one overnight"
billymg: i think there also might be some opportunities to remove code from mp-wp. for example, the included tinymce browser text-editor plugin seems to come with three different themes. i haven't looked too closely but i'm guessing only one of them is actually used
billymg: there is also now a copy of the mp-wp vtree here http://billymg.com/mp-wp-vtree/
lobbesbot: mats: Sent 1 week, 4 days, 4 hours, and 42 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> MP-WP hardening and enhancemenst, please acknowledge receipt http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/r1dkc/?raw=true
a111: Logged on 2019-01-05 14:13 mircea_popescu: so : as far as i know, bingoBoingo is working on qntra and on pizarro. he's doing a very fine job with the former ; i'm nonplussed with recently discovering just how broken the latter's mp-wp offering actually was ; moreover it seems to me from a distance pizarro's still financially and customer-wise entirely dependent, ie as close to failure as you can possibly get without spelling it out.
mircea_popescu: hanbot is working on the mp-wp tree, and manages as she long has a rather largeish wetworks i'm not going to get into the details of.
mircea_popescu: so : as far as i know, bingoBoingo is working on qntra and on pizarro. he's doing a very fine job with the former ; i'm nonplussed with recently discovering just how broken the latter's mp-wp offering actually was ; moreover it seems to me from a distance pizarro's still financially and customer-wise entirely dependent, ie as close to failure as you can possibly get without spelling it out.
diana_coman: billymg, looks good; perhaps mirror the whole mp-wp tree somewhere as you seem to be working on mp-wp?
lobbesbot: nicoleci: Sent 4 days, 7 hours, and 57 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> MP-WP hardening and enhancemenst, please acknowledge receipt http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/anvCs/?raw=true
billymg: diana_coman: my understanding was that as long as i created the vpatch with a keccak-compatible vdiff then the hashes would be consistent with genesis and it would be ok. this assumption came from me being able to press vtools and mp-wp with my current v.py (grabbed from the link in the trb setup guide)
bvt: i.e. in hanbot genesis, there is a/mp-wp/manifest, while in your vpatch a/manifest
bvt: billymg: it seems that you should move directory mp-wp into directories a, b, not rename them.
billymg: diana_coman: i loaded the necessary files into the patches/ .seals/ .wot directory structure and ran them through v.py (exact steps here: http://billymg.com/2018/10/the-complete-noobs-guide-to-setting-up-mp-wp-on-a-pizarro-rock-chip-server/)
diana_coman: billymg, sounds good; when you say genesis I assume you mean http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis ; correct?
billymg: it could also be my v.py, although i was able to press vtools and mp-wp genesis fine with it
billymg: hanbot: going by the vpatch i found here http://thewhet.net/2018/06/mp-wp-genesis-regrind/ or http://btcbase.org/data/mp-wp/ the file does seem to contain a few references to e.g. .jpg.svg, .png.svg
hanbot: billymg current mp-wp should absolutely not have any .jpg.svg flotsam; kubrickheader for instance is .svg
billymg: so wondering if maybe bvt or BingoBoingo caught this and updated, or what's there is from a different release of mp-wp
a111: Logged on 2018-10-22 21:26 billymg: what if i submitted a vpatch that adds the js-text-selection feature and the few lines of CSS to the "default" theme in mp-wp (blue header one)?
lobbesbot: bvt: Sent 43 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> MP-WP hardening and enhancemenst, please acknowledge receipt http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wSwU6/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: nicoleci bvt mats cruciform: Addenum to enable the mp-wp uploader http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/YvpmR/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: Any pizzaro shared hosting customers who had me configure your mp-wp let me know if you have not recieved a dispatch
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell nicoleci MP-WP hardening and enhancemenst, please acknowledge receipt http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/anvCs/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell mats MP-WP hardening and enhancemenst, please acknowledge receipt http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/r1dkc/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell bvt MP-WP hardening and enhancemenst, please acknowledge receipt http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wSwU6/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell cruciform MP-WP hardening and enhancemenst, please acknowledge receipt http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/j2WcJ/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: oh wait, is the expected format <a href=""></a> rather than <a href=></a> ? (this'd be new to both the w3c and mp-wp_
BingoBoingo playing with less spartan mp-wp, enjoying self and preaparing to share this gift
mircea_popescu: since we're on mp-wp woes : an hero to make mp-wp footnote system NEST would be appreciated. currently works only 1 level deep, maybe once each year or two gotta do lvl2 footnotes by hand.
BingoBoingo: Aite, mp-wp woes are looking manageable
BingoBoingo: I'm not sure I've used an mp-wp install with a functional image uploader yet.
BingoBoingo remembers something happening to tinymce down the line with hanbots patches to mp-wp will have to dig to see what happened. Neither of the editor tabs appear to be linked to anything in the mp-wp's I've pressed recently. They've just been html input/view boxes.
BingoBoingo listens puts press mp-wp again on the agenda
mircea_popescu: i suspect breakage somewhere along the way, because iirc hanbot 's mp-wp that i testrun at some point had these.
mircea_popescu: which is not even sane (seeing how if uncommented the server croaks) and anyway dysfunctional (really, mp-wp installation is vulnerable to cookie hijacking, you're supposed to lock down wp-admin by ip, especially if you're going to be clicking on random links).
mircea_popescu: this completely breaks it, at least as far as my workflow is concerned, because i never use anything besides 1 and you can't very practically get images in without 2. they're both core functionality of why i even bother with mp-wp in the first place, rather than some random other solution.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo wait, this ~doesn't~ come with preinstalled mp-wp ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo can i get a shared hosting instance briefly spun up so i test drive it ? i have like a suspicion mp-wp is subtly broken in places, maybe, or something's afoot.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> well, whoopdeedoo... if instead of letting the ants eat your dumb asses you ate the ants, it'd be the other way. and until it isn't the other way, it'll keep being this way, grand discovery this. << This is. I'm setting up mp-wp for a lead danielpbarron directed to us.
mircea_popescu certainly not against having magic postgres ver+config tested out for mp-wp. never stumbled on the magic combo, but also never looked too hard. the hooks are in though, can be switched ~effortlessly.
mircea_popescu: leaving aside my observation of anyone else's experience -- the "here's mp-wp codebase" has not appreciably destroyed something as far as i can tell.
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: Sent 15 hours and 40 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> iirc you were the one who set up nicoleci's mp-wp, plox to take look ?
mircea_popescu: psa : one point of mp-wp people might not be familiar with is the feed encoding. like here : http://bimbo.club/?feed=rss2 ; that leading "OTIxMjQ0NTYxMTJ8MTc5LjUwLjIyNi4xNjE=" encodes the ip of the caller. if you get your feeds republished (often done by spammers ), you de-base the string and can ban the scrapper by ip.
ben_vulpes: robo-production, or ripe for surfacing through mp-wp.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell BingoBoingo iirc you were the one who set up nicoleci's mp-wp, plox to take look ?
mircea_popescu: it should not be possible for a mp-wp correctly installed to display the (()) part
asciilifeform: mp-wp on shared machine is a per-user install, tho, so it is possible that somebody's is broken. that one seems to work tho
mircea_popescu: hey BingoBoingo, is the mp-wp on pizarro's shared server broken or what ? i don't understand how http://archive.is/Bihzo#selection-111.0-115.1 is possible otherwise ?
mircea_popescu: i suspect some work on trying mp-wp in a postgres environment would be quite beneficial at this juncture, even.
lobbes: danielpbarron: fwiw my pizarro rockchip has served me well thus far as a home for both auctionbot and for mp-wp. Hell, you could run a mirror for your church's www in the event it goes down AND host the poker bot
mircea_popescu: amberglint how about you mp-wp yourself ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Right, the question is what version of wordpress you are sitting on determines how much massaging you have to do to your database dump. Once MP-WP eats a correctly massaged dump your numbers counts survive and the numbers and human urls both work.
BingoBoingo: Doing the xml dump import into a new mp-wp (or other wp) is going to change the counts
BingoBoingo: Depending on how far his wordpress is from MP-WP and in which direction is going to determine how much of a pain preserving those counts will be.
mircea_popescu: see how http://trilema.com/?p=1338 resolves ? there's no url broken with sane scheme. because mp-wp is written for me not for "the web".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no i meant, re the mp-wp
asciilifeform: 'Mp-wp standardizes unnecessary work' << bahahaha
BingoBoingo: Another thing that seems to have been tabled which I am finding more interesting after my blog disaster is an adult Rockchip plant. Especially now that MP-WP appears to be less of a threat to exhaust RAM after tweaking 1 MYSQL knob.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-23 17:58 mircea_popescu: but w/e, anything but install mp-wp, play eulora, etcetera. GOTTA LONEMAN OF INSANITY
mircea_popescu: but w/e, anything but install mp-wp, play eulora, etcetera. GOTTA LONEMAN OF INSANITY
a111: Logged on 2018-10-31 23:16 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1867924 << ikr, multi-upload has been on the wishlist for mp-wp ever since... hey hanbot how long's it been now ?
BingoBoingo: Aite, I have found a ~56kb chunk of php which will let mp-wp shit out database backups from the dashboard. Going to put reading the PHP in the que, because php chunk's alleged author is this guy: http://austinmatzko.com/
BingoBoingo: Thankfully Qntra has a backup button, but with mp-wp I gotta dogfood it, because it is what I will be asked about
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: after i find these two roots, i would gladly serve and spreadsheetize this into the pizarro mysql/mp-wp
BingoBoingo: Anyways, we already have an mp-wp. Once things are clean and clear and organized, they can land there.
mircea_popescu: pizarro could get fancy, run a publicly-advertised dedicated node, dumpblocks or w/e to get the txen, push them into mp-wp 100% automatically.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, since pizarro's website runs mp-wp, which is php, this can all be done in... an hour ?
lobbes: mod6: I also recommend getting a proper mp-wp up and running. As someone who also tried to stick with the 'manual html' route, I vastly underestimated the communicative power of a proper blogotron (the speed-up-to-post, the catagorizing, the deedbot announces, comments, pingbacks, etc etc)
mircea_popescu: in the present situation i'd settle for a three-file 5k loc mp-wp reduction from the current imensity.
mircea_popescu: this "oh, i won't play eulora" "oh, i won't use mp-wp" is starting to smack of specialsnowflakeism already. you realise this, dildos fuck your holes exactly as well as anyone else's, they're holes, the hole pre-exists your personal notion of the self.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mp-wp does a bunch of useful things, such as adnotating the img tags, resizing the image to your pre-set sizes so you never have to worry about formatting, balancing them out in directories etc etc.
mircea_popescu: there really is ~0 reason to have something like mp-wp in multiple DIRECTORIES chockfulla files.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-15 04:19 mircea_popescu: hanbot / everyone : speaking of patches for mp-wp, here's something i'd dearly love : a MASS uploader. so you don't have to upload files one by one in the webinterface.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-31 23:16 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1867924 << ikr, multi-upload has been on the wishlist for mp-wp ever since... hey hanbot how long's it been now ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It was on the defaults. 2 GB rockchip and while not a trilema sized blog, bigger than most on mp-wp
a111: Logged on 2018-11-02 01:36 billymg: managed to press vtools and use vdiff to create a patch of the css tweaks for the "default" theme included in mp-wp http://billymg.com/downloads/mp-wp-css-refine.txt
ben_vulpes: Mocky: there's not much stomaching involved with operating an mp-wp. it's a pretty feature-complete blog; if you really want a custom template you can buy one.
mircea_popescu: Mocky you know all these exist as mp-wp already!
billymg: managed to press vtools and use vdiff to create a patch of the css tweaks for the "default" theme included in mp-wp http://billymg.com/downloads/mp-wp-css-refine.txt
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1867924 << ikr, multi-upload has been on the wishlist for mp-wp ever since... hey hanbot how long's it been now ?
BingoBoingo: I'll look into that too, since moving to mp-wp should have alleviated that.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-23 06:05 bvt: hi, i have mp-wp set up now: http://bvt-trace.net/2018/10/instead-of-hello-world-fg-tests/ . I will publish writeup and updated vpatch for vpatch later today.
bvt: hi, i have mp-wp set up now: http://bvt-trace.net/2018/10/instead-of-hello-world-fg-tests/ . I will publish writeup and updated vpatch for vpatch later today.
billymg: what if i submitted a vpatch that adds the js-text-selection feature and the few lines of CSS to the "default" theme in mp-wp (blue header one)?
BingoBoingo: billymg: if you are really looking for something to do, there's a spiffy js text selection thing and mp-wp could use a couple themes where it is plugged in by default
billymg: right now i have two items in my queue 1) figure out how to submit a vpatch for mp-wp with those few lines of CSS tweaks on the default theme 2) write a completely custom mp-wp theme
asciilifeform: at any given time, your www -- with the possible exception of comment-eater and search box (the latter dun even exist in mp-wp iirc) really wants to be a static string
asciilifeform: lobbes: what i meant was, there is long list of actually urgent proggies, this one's definitely a luxury; thus far ~errybody is living with mp-wp and not particularly sad
lobbes: hey nice work on the mp-wp guide billymg
a111: Logged on 2018-10-20 18:01 billymg: curious what type of browser environments the lords use -- when writing a theme for mp-wp will need to know what kind of font, css, js support to expect
billymg: curious what type of browser environments the lords use -- when writing a theme for mp-wp will need to know what kind of font, css, js support to expect
billymg: trinque: update on progress: after several nights of heavy drinking i managed to also catch a cold. working on mp-wp setup this afternoon (at reduced capacity) and was able to press and get it to http://161.0.121.194
deedbot: ave1 rated hanbot 2 << mp-wp
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 19:10 bvt: should set everything up till the end of the week. i didn't rent a rk; but already tested pressing mp-wp locally.
bvt: should set everything up till the end of the week. i didn't rent a rk; but already tested pressing mp-wp locally.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 03:02 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-14#1862295 << bootstrapping problem, he has to get vtools compiled to press mp-wp to install it on the rk he already bought.
mircea_popescu: does it have either vtools or mp-wp ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-14#1862295 << bootstrapping problem, he has to get vtools compiled to press mp-wp to install it on the rk he already bought.
BingoBoingo: billymg: With mp-wp the three most common sources of headbanging are: file and directory permissions, .htaccess (if running apache), and pressing into a populated direction (As in you press, aren't sure anything happened and press again into the output directory without cleansing it; prevalence of this one depends on particular v-tron used))
billymg: about to step out for a bit but have been keeping notes and will put together a writeup after mp-wp is successfully pressed/running
mod6: <+asciilifeform> BingoBoingo, mod6 : i'm thinking , i prolly oughta roll the mp-wp prereqs into the standard rk image, in the short term << sounds alright to me, alf
asciilifeform: perhaps mp-wp itself, also.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, mod6 : i'm thinking , i prolly oughta roll the mp-wp prereqs into the standard rk image, in the short term
billymg: i was not, i was mostly going off http://blog.esthlos.com/mp-wp-setup/
mircea_popescu: so keep notes, and then there's your first article for free -- "how i pressed mp-wp to give self proper www".
billymg: next step will be getting mp-wp setup so i can have a proper www
a111: Logged on 2018-10-11 00:54 asciilifeform: billymg: various notes re uses for rk , for your enjoyment -- http://thewhet.net/2018/08/hanbots-znc-bouncer-notes/ , http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2018/06/mein-kompendium-mp-wp/ , http://blog.esthlos.com/mp-wp-setup/
asciilifeform: Mocky: mine emails. but i dun recall if mp-wp has this knob.
billymg: somewhat related to an mp-wp theme, i'd very much like some reliable hosting. do i join #pizarro to ask about that?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-10#1860043 << if you're very much dedicated to sticking to ux, eg eulora's client's in the early stages of being rewritten, Mocky may want you. otherwise, just pick something and whine at the owner, from v to whatever. write a mp-wp theme. there\s wghat to do.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bins in mp-wp tree, hanbot expertly ascii-ized.
phf: asciilifeform: because binary we've been going back and forth on over many conversations over the past year. e.g. mp-wp was rewritten to not use binaries because around the time the resolution was to not pack binaries into vpatches and instead move in the direction of human readable formats
mircea_popescu: eg, if everyone was on mp-wp, degree of magnitude cheaper search
mircea_popescu: in random eggogs : the default theme for mp-wp (w/e it is bimbo.club got), the bottom link for comments rss links to http://bimbo.club/?feed=comments-rss2 which is broken ; http://bimbo.club/?feed=comments-rss is the correct endpoint.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform phf's thing presses fine, since at least june ( http://thewhet.net/2018/06/mp-wp-genesis-regrind/ )
lobbes: also, congrats on joining teh mp-wp-rk club
a111: Logged on 2018-09-04 17:07 BingoBoingo: And thank you hanbot, the V Genesised MP-WP is very nice. Much improved dashboard and editors.
BingoBoingo: And thank you hanbot, the V Genesised MP-WP is very nice. Much improved dashboard and editors.
deedbot: http://bingology.net/2018/09/04/live-from-rockchip-with-mp-wp/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog - Live From RockChip! With MP-WP!
mircea_popescu: lobbes ye olde link 404s. sadly i'm affraid this particular corner case wasn't covered in mp-wp user friendliness, doesn't autofix it.
lobbes: also I won't need mp-wp on it. just an ssh hole will suffice for my needs
BingoBoingo: Aite, I have mp-wp unpacked, wp-config populated, what's the next step on mp-wp? I am not seeing it in any of the guides http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2018/06/mein-kompendium-mp-wp/ http://blog.esthlos.com/mp-wp-setup/
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nice, I will advise when mp-wp is ready for your chattel
mircea_popescu: mod6 does that let her log into mp-wp ?
mircea_popescu: how does she get to her mp-wp admin from teh ssh ?
BingoBoingo: Most comprehensive mp-wp write up at the moment appears to be from lobbes http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2018/06/mein-kompendium-mp-wp/
jurov: I'll install/configure apache on the pizarro-colocated foundation box. Want to prepare for mp-wp, anyone has handy their notes pls?
mircea_popescu: mp-wp patches welcome!
mircea_popescu: mod6 can you spin me up a mp-wp instance on the shared item, see if we can counteract the illiterate part ?
mircea_popescu: and mp-wp hjas a special folder for this.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you feel like patching mp-wp to do just this, i'd very much run it.
lobbesbot: diana_coman: Sent 6 hours and 34 minutes ago: <lobbes> if you still need the footnotes php for mp-wp, I have a copy up here >> http://lobbesblog.com/static/footnotes.php.tar.gz
lobbes: !Qlater tell diana_coman if you still need the footnotes php for mp-wp, I have a copy up here >> http://lobbesblog.com/static/footnotes.php.tar.gz
a111: Logged on 2018-08-06 19:33 diana_coman: ugh, on mp-wp I have avatars fine but I don't have footnotes?
diana_coman: or esthlos lobbes? how did you get the footnotes working on mp-wp?
diana_coman: ugh, on mp-wp I have avatars fine but I don't have footnotes?
mircea_popescu: moreover phf deeply has it ; the extant mp-wp infrastructure is wartime sufficient anyways,
a111: Logged on 2018-07-24 15:09 mircea_popescu: i might get this inept slut a blog though... what'd pizarro think about giving my stupid whores slots on the mp-wp megaserver ?
a111: Logged on 2018-07-24 15:09 mircea_popescu: i might get this inept slut a blog though... what'd pizarro think about giving my stupid whores slots on the mp-wp megaserver ?
asciilifeform: very limited damage can be done by sheer ineptitude from a mp-wp , afaik .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if your pet can operate a mp-wp, can use, why not
mircea_popescu: i might get this inept slut a blog though... what'd pizarro think about giving my stupid whores slots on the mp-wp megaserver ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, fwiw : mysql existing as gnat/cuntoo item (combined with its deployment in mp-wp, eulora etc) pretty much guarantees by now that tmsr db will be mysql derivative.
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-11#1833379 << iirc mod6 was trying to get mp-wp genesis to work with v.pl, but it never actually pressed with it, sez so a handful of lines past that log link.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:42 mod6: When you see it in the flow, then you should be good. Then you'll have to do : ./v.pl p v mpwp mp-wp_genesis.vpatch pd mpwp sd .mpwp-seals
diana_coman: hanbot, right, it's keccak hashes so ofc v.pl barfs although it's weird that it first presses so much of it and only then randomly throws up; at any rate, on different arch, phf's vpatch pressed the mp-wp genesis so at least the genesis itself seems all right
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