Results 1 ... 124 found in asciilifeform for 'dulapnet'
shinohai: Happy New Year dulapnet!
asciilifeform: zx2c4: it aint a irc chan on dulapnet, no. wholly new p2p protocol. there are 2 (published, phf has 1 still under wraps) prototypes.
billymg: not sure what's going on but noticed after moving the bot to kiev the reconnects to dulapnet sometimes fail (or always fail and just don't happen that frequently)
bitbot: (pest) 2022-06-08 asciilifeform: awt: was thinking about a hypothetical blatta mod for emplacing e.g. a n00b gate in place of dulapnet;
asciilifeform: a notbad backup. asciilifeform intends to keep 'dulapnet' around until we get a n00b gate working. at which pt that'll stand here in its place.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-09-19 17:24:10 asciilifeform: whole idea was born because there , initially , were to be other irc relayes in dulapnet. and then asciilifeform et al finally read through whole rfc , and realized that it is impossible to make a all-to-all irc network.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-07#1110808 << initially asciilifeform had a very concrete problem -- 'how do i announce rack outages if dulapnet lives in selfsame rack?' -- and tried (with help from signpost et al) to shoehorn classical irc. turned out that in fact the shoehorn dun fit, irc impose
bitbot: (pest) 2022-06-08 asciilifeform: awt: was thinking about a hypothetical blatta mod for emplacing e.g. a n00b gate in place of dulapnet;
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-27 12:59:10 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-27#1089476 << asciilifeform aint much concerned w/ 'future versions of irc' as has 0 plans to use'em for anyffin. in fact plans to retire the dulapnet irc at some pt when pest 100% mature
bitbot: (pest) 2022-06-08 asciilifeform: awt: was thinking about a hypothetical blatta mod for emplacing e.g. a n00b gate in place of dulapnet;
crtdaydreams: ip/port same for dulapnet as for #pest?
asciilifeform: phf: nominally still in biz, can try & write to him. (iirc normally lives on his own variant of dulapnet, but w/out the 'guest door', so prolly best bet is via www comment)
asciilifeform: is wai e.g. asciilifeform went straight to dulapnet/pest/etc and not to the new fleanode
asciilifeform aims to bridge dulapnet to pestnet in some sane way, and operate #a as a n00b portal strictly
asciilifeform: atm we have a much smaller but in fact rather similar party. signpost brought deedbot , asciilifeform -- rack, dulapnet, pest spec, various trbisms; thimbronion -- blatta; billymg -- noad walker; shinohai -- mirrors; various other folx -- useful commentary (e.g. punkman returned briefly and participated in pest spec hammering) ; etc
asciilifeform: it also runs 'dulapnet' but that weights next to nuffin
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-30#1090638 << when sumbody gets around to baking a proper irc bridge. ( would like to leave #a/dulapnet around for noobs to step into )
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-27#1089476 << asciilifeform aint much concerned w/ 'future versions of irc' as has 0 plans to use'em for anyffin. in fact plans to retire the dulapnet irc at some pt when pest 100% mature
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-11 18:34:08 asciilifeform: and in particular, the next time the dc folx trip over the main breaker like in dec. of '20, pestnet is what'll be standing and dulapnet awol
asciilifeform: d4: replacement for irc, already in use, and expected to eventually replace dulapnet, on which we are presently speaking
asciilifeform: hence wai asciilifeform thinks whaack's approach ( to have block exploder operable via either www or dulapnet/pest ) is the Right Thing
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-11 18:34:08 asciilifeform: and in particular, the next time the dc folx trip over the main breaker like in dec. of '20, pestnet is what'll be standing and dulapnet awol
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-27 13:13:27 asciilifeform: when there's a 100% stable pestnet, will bridge dulapnet's #a to it, i expect.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-27 13:12:06 asciilifeform: (for sumthing as precarious as a 1-box irc net, dulapnet has worked surprisingly well. but it is rather unsuitable for long-term use, e.g. can't exactly announce isp outages on it, given as it lives in the rack)
asciilifeform: ^ dulapnet worx still, and asciilifeform intends to keep it going in near future (handy for e.g. n00b visitors) but eventually most of the life will be on pestnet, yes
asciilifeform: and in particular, the next time the dc folx trip over the main breaker like in dec. of '20, pestnet is what'll be standing and dulapnet awol
asciilifeform: when there's a 100% stable pestnet, will bridge dulapnet's #a to it, i expect.
asciilifeform: (for sumthing as precarious as a 1-box irc net, dulapnet has worked surprisingly well. but it is rather unsuitable for long-term use, e.g. can't exactly announce isp outages on it, given as it lives in the rack)
asciilifeform: whaack: i expect to keep dulapnet going in parallel, in near term
whaack: do you have an eta for when dulapnet is replaced by blatta / pest?
adlai: the only immediate way that I imagine spending TBF coin in the near future could have any tangible impact is if there were automated testing that could be done on a server in dulapnet ; then asciilifeform gets paid for something more tangible than simply sniffing and counting at the hoard
asciilifeform: whaack: absolutely nothing changed on dulapnet since boot
whaack: looks my bot can't auth to dulapnet anymore, asciilifeform, did this process somehow change / any idera why this may be?
adlai: verisimilitude: the conversation didn't cease, it was "only resting"... I was even still connected to dulapnet, only parted from the channel.
verisimilitude: Unlike dulapnet, I'm one of the better programmers who uses Lainchan, which has caused my growing increasingly bored with it, but such an investment of time isn't discarded lightly.
asciilifeform: ah that'd explain how watchglass (which lives on same box as dulapnet) escaped
asciilifeform: cdd: what brings you to dulapnet ?
asciilifeform: whole idea was born because there , initially , were to be other irc relayes in dulapnet. and then asciilifeform et al finally read through whole rfc , and realized that it is impossible to make a all-to-all irc network.
asciilifeform: initially simply to replace dulapnet ( we're here because fleanode finally bit it , notice )
asciilifeform intends to eventually replace dulapnet server with a 'guest door' into his pest net.
asciilifeform: of course if jurov wants to stand up own 'dulapnet' (could even do so on the iron i supply him with pro bono!) i'll join there .
asciilifeform updated the 'contact' link on his www to a log ptr to the orig. dulapnet announcement. will leave it at this for nao.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-16#1058369 << thinking about this, asciilifeform aint sure that he wants 1-click luser access to dulapnet. the current 'this tall to ride' seems just about perfect imho.
asciilifeform would update the contact, but doesn't currently have a ready www-based widget for dulapnet
asciilifeform: b: do we know one another ? how didja come across dulapnet ?
asciilifeform: apparently subject interests moar folx than simply dulapnet denizens...
asciilifeform: meanwhile packets from cgra are able to reach asciilifeform's entire net. cgra has a peer 'nebuchadnezzar', who is not a peer of asciilifeform or anyone else currently on dulapnet. nebuchadnezzar is peer with shalmaneser, who also not peer w/ anyone else. the latter decides to impersonate asciilifeform.
punkman: wait, so you run dulapnet, I run whorenet with 50 whores, why would you want me to bring the whores to dulapnet
asciilifeform: billymg: i meant simply that is very easy to connect to dulapnet. even the rizzo fella, who evidently never heard of irc, managed
asciilifeform: with 'pest', in principle, yet other new things possible. starting with getting dulapnet the everliving permanent fuck off the central point of failure.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-07 13:55:52 asciilifeform: crib sheet: 'eta 0' -- above; 'era 1' - #b-a; 'era 2' -- trilemic period when phf had the only reliable logger; 'era 3' -- all fleanode log post-dating 2 (and to present day); 'era 4' -- dulapnet.
jon: thanks, indeed, thats how i hacked my way into dulapnet
asciilifeform: lobbes: do you intend to revive your logger ? (it's up, but missing good % of the #a material, on acct of spotty connectivity and never having been in dulapnet...)
bingoboingo probably ought to get my bouncer to stop pinging freenode and connected to dulapnet
asciilifeform: PeterL: something like scoopbot would be a++ useful. atm doesn't seem like feedbot is coming to dulapnet.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-22 11:22:30 asciilifeform: adlai: dulapnet lives in iron belonging to asciilifeform personally. there's a plan to decentralize properly, but bogged down in software headaches.
asciilifeform: adlai: dulapnet lives in iron belonging to asciilifeform personally. there's a plan to decentralize properly, but bogged down in software headaches.
asciilifeform: adlai: welcome to dulapnet !
adlai encounters 'dulapnet' keyword in logs; reads.
asciilifeform: dulapnet gr
billymg: raw_avocado: i happen to be using limechat as well, are you trying to connect directly to dulapnet or via ZNC?
asciilifeform: ( more people will answer in realtime if you do the asking on dulapnet, but eventually erryone reads )
asciilifeform: asciilifeform and snsabot are still here largely to receive visitors (such as raw_avocado) . the regular folx are all either on dulapnet or both similarly.
asciilifeform: raw_avocado: most of the conv. now is on dulapnet. both it and the legacy fleanode #a are logged synchronously.
asciilifeform: nubs: not relatedly, but while yer here -- asciilifeform has own net nao, will be leaving fleanode entirely in not too long
shinohai: nice, dulapnet grows bots. Hopefully signpost can get deedbot plugged in at some point.
asciilifeform: ... or maybe not. watchglass nao on dulapnet exclusively !!
asciilifeform: billymg: i'ma park watchglass on dulapnet later today/tomorrow, can resume regular survey then
asciilifeform: bonechewer: and welcome to dulapnet.
asciilifeform: billymg has a mirror (tho his aint tuned into dulapnet yet) so it's unlikely to get lost, even when asciilifeform drowns
asciilifeform: crib sheet: 'eta 0' -- above; 'era 1' - #b-a; 'era 2' -- trilemic period when phf had the only reliable logger; 'era 3' -- all fleanode log post-dating 2 (and to present day); 'era 4' -- dulapnet.
asciilifeform: welcome to dulapnet, kakobrekla
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-06#1042948 << if this was on dulapnet -- it's hardwired for #a yes
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: dulapnet, if not clear from context, consists of simply a box in asciilifeform's dc rack. at least currently.
asciilifeform: ohey kakobrekla . puman1 is correct, most of the life is on dulapnet nao.
asciilifeform: oh heh already 19d of dulapnet.
asciilifeform: welcome to dulapnet, punkman !
asciilifeform: so, to restate, one very modest aim would be to simply have a 100% decentralized version of current dulapnet, on udp+pow, where literally anyone can send in a message so long as it fits in packet ~and~ comes with sufficient pow; and the node being addressed will reply then, and up to say past hour's log if requested.
asciilifeform: welcome to dulapnet, davout !
asciilifeform: davout: i rec to get on dulapnet, asciilifeform's wartime ircism; fleanode aint long for this world.
gregory4: assuming that you are able to turn off mandatory SSL for peering of "unreal," I could serve as bridge between "dulapnet" and "xrsenet" for a while.
gregory4: asciilifeform: any interest in bridging "dulapnet" with "xrsenet?" that way, you can use "unreal" and avoid the 15 second issue with "ratbox."
asciilifeform: welcome to dulapnet, bingoboingo !
asciilifeform: welcome to dulapnet, gregory4
gregory4 had missed the original message about `dulapnet`, finally here.
asciilifeform: welcome to dulapnet , cgra !
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-01#1042060 << you can use any nick you like on dulapnet !
shinohai: ANywho, I'm already completely setup on dulapnet so no worries here.
asciilifeform: i.e. anyone currently here and not on dulapnet, is officially on notice that asciilifeform , snsabot , and watchglass will pack up and move likely the very next time the sewer backs up here.
asciilifeform: welcome to dulapnet, shinohai !
shinohai finally got around to setting up ZNC for dulapnet, will abandon fleanode soon
asciilifeform: whaack: also, are you trying to connect to the orig. 'dulapnet', or to the beta-arsenet ? (on same box)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: speaking of modern era, i rec to prep a box for peering w/ dulapnet. at some unspecified time undead-fleanode will croak.
asciilifeform: whaack: depends w/ whom yer talking ( asciilifeform for instance sitting in 3 atm -- fleanode, dulapnet, and prototype arsenet by trinque et al)
asciilifeform: welcome to dulapnet, whaack
verisimilitude: Oh, this isn't dulapnet.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-18 18:46:22 billymg: asciilifeform: so in dulapnet, instead of running znc on my rk, i'd run a relay. and if i find someone on twitter who wants to see what we're up to, they could connect to my rk, rather than having to run their own relay right off the bat
billymg: asciilifeform: so in dulapnet, instead of running znc on my rk, i'd run a relay. and if i find someone on twitter who wants to see what we're up to, they could connect to my rk, rather than having to run their own relay right off the bat
billymg: reason being, let's say there is a healthy group of 40 active users on dulapnet, 30 of which are running their own relays, under 'no chans, just nets' anyone wanting to continue a discussion that users in main channel are tired of will lose out on the robustness of the 30 relays
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-16 18:48:14 asciilifeform: was thinking in re: 'dulapnet' -- imho would be fair play if he who wishes to have a chan, contributes a machine for relay.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-17 19:06:15 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-17#1039737 << btw i was wundering whether even makes sense to have the pretense of 'channels' on dulapnet.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: see log for any further changes to it; (and in general, most of last 3pgs of log is already via dulapnet)
asciilifeform: and there will not necessarily be a visible (outside of log www & dulapnet) indication.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: aite. i rec to get on dulapnet tho, nfi how long fleanode-corpse will continue to twitch
asciilifeform: fwiw i'd like to get dulapnet 'de-palaced' asap.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-17 19:06:15 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-17#1039737 << btw i was wundering whether even makes sense to have the pretense of 'channels' on dulapnet.
asciilifeform: welcome to dulapnet, zx2c4 .
asciilifeform: dulapnet is logged by dulapbot (and by any relay operator, obv., with bot of his choice plugged into localhost)
asciilifeform: this afaik covers the folx i wanted to ping, who not appeared yet on dulapnet, but may wish to know that i'ma perma-move there in coming weeks.
asciilifeform currently expecting to decamp from fleanode for good when 1) there are 2+ boxes in dulapnet 2) all isp subscribers have made an appearance there
asciilifeform: possibly oughta simply have #dulapnet.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-17#1039737 << btw i was wundering whether even makes sense to have the pretense of 'channels' on dulapnet.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-16 13:40:57 asciilifeform: Aerthean: welcome. please keep in mind that the only bridge b/w dulapnet and fleanode is my log www; messages spoken here will appear in the latter but not in fleanode.
asciilifeform: btw for folx who don't intend to inhabit heathen irc nets -- instead of znc, would do far better to run a dulapnet relay. you get same functionality, plus a place to plug in own bots, proper syncing, etc
asciilifeform will be moving watchglass to dulapnet in near future.
lobbes: so right now, the only irc server I seem to be able to connect my server irssi to is dulapnet. 'chat.freenode' outright refuses connection; weird
asciilifeform was thinking in re: 'dulapnet' -- imho would be fair play if he who wishes to have a chan, contributes a machine for relay.
asciilifeform: welcome to dulapnet, dpb !
asciilifeform: Aerthean: welcome. please keep in mind that the only bridge b/w dulapnet and fleanode is my log www; messages spoken here will appear in the latter but not in fleanode.
asciilifeform: welcome to dulapnet, shinohai !
asciilifeform: notyet, atm simply stolid 'dulapnet'. lessee who even bothers to use it, while regular sad old fleanode still (sorta) worx