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asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
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asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 15 nodes...
watchglass: 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.118s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=736709 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=736709 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=736711
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.143s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=736709
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.144s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=736709 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.322s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=736709
watchglass: 82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.324s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=736709
watchglass: 94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.257s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=736709
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.609s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=736709
watchglass: 75.106.222.93:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.106s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=736709
watchglass: 103.6.212.28:8333 : Alive: (0.398s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=627351 (Operator: whaack)
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phf: apropos fantasy machines, going to mention https://100r.co/site/uxn.html which already has a small following, because cool kids know how to make it look sexy
asciilifeform: phf: nifty. reminiscent of 'colourforth'
phf: so on the left is their sequencer conlang and on the right is a drum machine driven by sequencer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b848OVu4yOk both hosted on vm
asciilifeform: nostalgic 'commodore amiga' graphical flavour. and entirely reasonable forth.
asciilifeform: on turboc 2. a++
phf: well, and to asciilifeform's particular fetish these guys live on a sailboat full time https://wiki.xxiivv.com/site/pino.html
asciilifeform cured of 'sailboat' but still finds interesting
phf: the xxiivv wiki is statically generated using some uxn code also
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-14 11:13:17 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-14#1102450 << indeed interesting. author's 'anti-minimalist' arguments are reminiscent of naggum's imho
phf: ah there you go, i forgot the details, uxn is cpu, the machine is "varvara" https://wiki.xxiivv.com/site/varvara.html
asciilifeform: phf: cursory look does not reveal a nic (or ip stack). i suppose 'haram'
phf: asciilifeform: last time i talked to them they were trying to figure it out. i think right now the solution is a kind of "stream device" as a general purpose ffi, so e.g. run a machine with a pipe to nc
asciilifeform: slip/ppp!111
phf: oh that's a cool idea, i might take a stab at it
phf: was interesting to watch these guys progress from "electron apps are so easy" to "fuck you, it's our own minimal stack"
asciilifeform: waiwat they started with wwwisms?
phf: apparently some people can reason themselves out of "modern" stack without necessarily being part of curmudgeon communities
phf: in this case driven by constraints of the whole boat living (hardware dies, electric is limited, etc.)
phf: "The first version of Ronin was produced in Ensenada, Mexico in 2016 after Rekka's Macbook died (see tools ecosystem) and photoshop became unusable. The first version was designed to work on our Chromebook. Eventually, we'd like to make an uxn port. For the time being, the electron version is the main version." etc.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-17 12:19:23 phf: apparently some people can reason themselves out of "modern" stack without necessarily being part of curmudgeon communities
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-17#1102732 << would expect slow/unreliable net access to be the relevant factor there
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-17 12:20:18 phf: in this case driven by constraints of the whole boat living (hardware dies, electric is limited, etc.)
asciilifeform: ( tho afaik most 'boat people' sit in port and on local wireless. perhaps this one actually sailed... )
billymg: verisimilitude: kek
billymg: "<klardotsh> let's take this to hypothetical neutral turf here for a second: imagine I'm the non-anonymous-at-all author of the "I Hate Tall People And Think They're Filth Zine" and show up to a sports bar frequented by a bunch of 6'6" folks wanting to talk football. it's gonna cause a bit of a problem, isn't it? those folks aren't going to feel safe talking about football with me, because I've publicly announced that I, as
billymg: me, think they're filth"
billymg: do they really think like this?
billymg: i imagine the 6'6" guys would just beat his ass in this hypothetical
shinohai thinks the world would be a better place if more cans of whoop-ass were opened .....
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-17 13:55:12 verisimilitude: Here's how that went for me.
asciilifeform: '<nihilazo> uxn is a largely queer and leftist project' << lol
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-17 14:16:23 billymg: do they really think like this?
asciilifeform: 'SIR Roger L'Estrange tell us a Story in his Collection of Fables, of the Cock and the Horses. The Cock was gotten to Roost in the Stable, among the Horses, and there beāˆ£ing no Racks, or other Conveniencies for him, it seems, he was forc'd to roost upon the Ground; the Horses jostling about for room, and putting the Cock in danger of his Life, he gives them this grave Advice; Pray Gentlefolks let us stand still, for
asciilifeform: fear we should tread upon one another.'
punkman: Devine Lu Linvega << name rings a bell, I must have stumbled on his stuff a couple times
punkman: "cool kids"
punkman: guy's been 15 years on youtube -> 3.5k subscribers
punkman: "we went through your blog/twitter/tube and found out you said a bad word 5 years ago! you must be purged"
punkman: how is that not harassment
punkman: by their definition
verisimilitude: ``<verisimilitude> Regarding ``neuro(a)typicality'', I'm clearly touched in the head, but I'm not asking for any protections.''
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: fwiw asciilifeform also never got x11 on the rk.
verisimilitude: Protections only apply to faggotry, punkman.
asciilifeform: have been using'em 100% headless from day1.
punkman: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-17#1102757 << I had same problem with 2-3 arm boards I tried, years ago. was even worse back then
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-17 15:19:27 verisimilitude: Someone may find this to be interesting.
asciilifeform: they all seem to use same undocumented vga, which only (sorta) worx w/ vendor binturds.
punkman: I wanted to use as tv box, so video was a priority
asciilifeform: hypothetically if there were an rk that actually brings out its pcie bus, could plug in an adult card and be done with it. but afaik none (in rk price range, at any rate) do
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-14 11:20:27 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-14#1102469 << buy an e.g. amd wx2100 (~100bux) and be done with it
verisimilitude: ``<verisimilitude> I help manage a different IRC server, and rest assured no one is banned for being a homosexual or whatnot.''
verisimilitude: ``<Delta> "Not banning someone for being gay" is pretty much the bare minimum and doesn't paint you as well as you think it does.''
verisimilitude: However, banning someone for not being a homosexual is fine, apparently. I wonder why people don't like them. I was basically told I should be tolerant of them, but that it needn't be reciprocated.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: if you walk into a room/irc/etc and smell these, simply run for the door, there's nuffin to do there
verisimilitude: These humanoids forget that tolerance isn't synonymous with enjoyment.
asciilifeform: 'tolerance' is when you gotta ride a crowded train together or whatnot.
asciilifeform: at all other times, why.
asciilifeform: why walk into the heathen pits.
verisimilitude: Well, I didn't know it were a heathen pit at first.
punkman: the troons have gone insane past few years, I don't know how anyone can take them seriously
asciilifeform: you aint gonna 'clean' a heathen pit. not w/out a flamethrower at any rate.
verisimilitude: Tolerance is not killing someone thought to deserve it without further reason.
asciilifeform: the pill is to have own territory, and keep'em out.
verisimilitude: I know asciilifeform.
verisimilitude: I tried to ``branch out'', and still only find myself here.
verisimilitude: I tried to ``branch out'', but the branches had already fallen to the ground into a large faggot.
asciilifeform: is wai e.g. asciilifeform went straight to dulapnet/pest/etc and not to the new fleanode
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-16 13:47:50 shinohai: asciilifeform was right about libera being sjw's I'm already klined for posting pr0n
asciilifeform: !q uptime
dulapbot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 335d 16h 25m
asciilifeform: nearly yr, heh
asciilifeform must bbl
phf: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-17#1102748 << this should only be a surprise to an autist like verisimilitude, most things that overlap "artistic" and programming are leftist as fuck, and usually have troons as major contributors. that's a running joke about 9front, but not only
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-17 14:38:05 asciilifeform: '<nihilazo> uxn is a largely queer and leftist project' << lol
phf: this is also a reason why i don't participate, "walking on eggshells" and all this. i don't usually go to places like that guns blazing, i end up testing the waters though, and on more than one occasion (happened in both uxn and cat-v) get privmsgs from random people going "i wouldn't say shit like that if i were you, these place is activist heavy"
asciilifeform never 1ce stepped in these piles, posib. because pathologically lazy, 'if they wanted to talk to asciilifeform , they can come to #a'
verisimilitude: I don't get many wandering adventurers yet, asciilifeform.
verisimilitude: Even #lisp on Freenode was like this, phf.
verisimilitude: It wasn't as bad.
phf: i liked some aspects of both plan9 and uxn, would join to ask questions, but very rapidly discover that it's not worth the effort
asciilifeform has fond memories of playing with 'plan9' in 2000s
verisimilitude: The artistic venues I use are surprisingly clean of these types.
dulapbot: (trilema) 2018-04-06 phf: asciilifeform: all these projects are plan9 cargo cults, so there's always going to be utf-8
dulapbot: (trilema) 2016-09-29 asciilifeform: at one time i took an interest in plan9
phf: i spun up a couple of instances of plan9, long enough to understand their way, and i have to say i hard time finding too many things to object to
phf: *i had
phf: i would prefer it to unix
signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-17#1102772 << you're supposed to touch a dick on the way in, like the holy water at catholic church.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-17 15:23:11 verisimilitude: ``<Delta> "Not banning someone for being gay" is pretty much the bare minimum and doesn't paint you as well as you think it does.''
shinohai: TOP KEK
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-17#1102768 << depending on what you're doing, may be worth to try usb vga box. asciilifeform used for many yrs, eats cpu but if you have cycles to spare is entirely adequate for almost anyffin
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-17 15:21:54 punkman: I wanted to use as tv box, so video was a priority
dulapbot: (trilema) 2015-01-30 asciilifeform: http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/FB_UDL.html << driver
asciilifeform: the 'displaylink' chipset in particular 100% documented and adequately driven in 2.6+ kernels
asciilifeform: iirc there are usb3 ones naodays, which will do 30frame/s video. but not tried these.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-17 11:59:25 phf: well, and to asciilifeform's particular fetish these guys live on a sailboat full time https://wiki.xxiivv.com/site/pino.html
vex: That's an american version of a chinese clone that costs 10x actual. The patent office gave them a patent. "I made this"
vex: They did have maybe 2 parts recast out of the thousand or so. and painted it.
vex: if they were any kind of cool they have the real old jap machine, or at least the $200 copy
vex: cool machine nonethless, it'll sew your coins to your wallet
vex: https://web.archive.org/web/20210615072534/http://monsoondervish.com/ my favourite sailing writer seems to have dissappeard from the net since his lady died unexpectedly
vex: i hope he's not at the bottom; I haven't read all his books yet
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