PeterL: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-22#1048066 << in my experience, 1st gen typically refers to children of immigrants, 2nd gen is grandchildren of immigrants. Asciilifeform would be gen 0
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-22 19:07:10 gregory4: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-22#1048064 << I consider children who obtained citizenship without taking the Oath (because of parents' naturalization) to be second gen.
PeterL: did the source of feedbot ever get published?
PeterL: I did find my old "scoopbot" script, I might be able to get that back up and running
asciilifeform: wb PeterL
asciilifeform: PeterL: something like scoopbot would be a++ useful. atm doesn't seem like feedbot is coming to dulapnet.
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 17 nodes...
watchglass: 184.108.40.206:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 220.127.116.11:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 18.104.22.168:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 22.214.171.124:8333 : Alive: (0.084s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 126.96.36.199:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927
watchglass: 188.8.131.52:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.172s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927
watchglass: 184.108.40.206:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.130s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 220.127.116.11:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=692927 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 18.104.22.168:8333 : Alive: (0.234s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927
watchglass: 22.214.171.124:8333 : (static.126.96.36.199.clients.your-server.de) Alive: (0.344s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=412068 (Operator: jurov)
watchglass: 188.8.131.52:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.257s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927
watchglass: 184.108.40.206:8333 : Alive: (0.337s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927
watchglass: 220.127.116.11:8333 : Alive: (0.731s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927
watchglass: 18.104.22.168:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.579s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927
watchglass: 22.214.171.124:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
watchglass: 126.96.36.199:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
watchglass: 188.8.131.52:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
asciilifeform: !w uptime
watchglass: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 17d 18h 17m
asciilifeform: !q uptime
dulapbot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 41d 13h 7m
whaack: asciilifeform: do you have an nginx (or apache) + flask guide / conf file available for your gentoo boxes?
asciilifeform: whaack: not beyond what's in the logotron readme. iirc dpb and billymg had some tho
asciilifeform: whaack: if you ran into particular headache, don't hesitate to put in log
billymg: whaack: there were a few hiccups when i was configuring my wsgi app for the first time. what are you running into?
whaack: billymg: just starting now, was checking to see if I could go off a guide, so no hiccups yet
billymg: whaack: ah, yeah, check the readme in the logotron tree. there's a cut/paste example vhost config in there
whaack: asciilifeform: i hit this error when running emerge on apache, http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=HkEn looks like emerge needed to grab something from a repository that has deadlinks. Do you have another way you got apache on your machine?
asciilifeform: whaack: it's on the dulap repo
asciilifeform: whaack: is your box configured to use it ?
dulapbot: Logged on 2020-08-20 17:50:24 asciilifeform: Aerthean: if you use this gentoo, you will probably also want to use my packages repo . in /etc/portage/make.conf , GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://dulap.xyz/gentoo/" .
whaack: asciilifeform: yes it is
asciilifeform: whaack: then why is it loading that tarball from heathens ?
asciilifeform: whaack: can paste log plz ?
whaack: do i need to specify to use that mirror somehow?
asciilifeform: make it 1st on list
whaack: other than having the GENTOO_MIRRORS set to the string above
asciilifeform: ah no, that oughta suffice
whaack: asciilifeform: interesting part from log is that it tried your repo first and couldn't find apache http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=MgU7
asciilifeform: whaack: i'ma take a look shortly, sadly tied up in liquishit atm
asciilifeform: # ls -l /usr/portage/distfiles/apr-1.6.3.tar.bz2
asciilifeform: -rw-rw-r-- 1 portage portage 854100 Oct 22 2017 /usr/portage/distfiles/apr-1.6.3.tar.bz2
whaack: asciilifeform: cool, ty
asciilifeform: and yet indeed 404!
asciilifeform: am i blind or wat
asciilifeform: [27/Jul/2021:14:04:19 -0400] "GET /gentoo/distfiles/apr-1.6.3.tar.bz2 HTTP/1.1" 404 - "-"
asciilifeform: oooh 1s
asciilifeform: whaack: plox to retry
asciilifeform really oughta make simlinks, atm the public repo is separate dir from local
whaack: asciilifeform: looks like the files are available now, running emerge again, ty!
asciilifeform: whaack: np
whaack: asciilifeform: can you point me in the right direction with this error I'm receiving? 'Invalid command 'WSGIPythonPath', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration'
whaack: looks like I need to install the WSGIPythonPath module, but i'm not quite sure how to do so
asciilifeform: whaack: do you have mod_wsgi ?
whaack: asciilifeform: just figured out that that was what I was missing, installing now
whaack: asciilifeform: got it installed, but it seems to be using a different python version, trying to figure out which
punkman: "We are making efforts to move towards fully open graphics using the KMS driver, we have released libcamera which is open source camera stuff. Still need to use the firmware for some codecs. Also, apart from the GPU firmware, there is also firmware on the Wifi chip - that is closed source but comes from Cypress so nothing to do with us. Also the
punkman: bootloader on the Pi4 is closed source. That is unlikely to change in the near future. This there is also firmware on the USB controller on the Pi4, again nothing to do with us, we just supply the binary."
punkman: after years of "we are working on it!", finally back to "We are not hung up on having to supply closed source firmware, we take the pragmatic approach that life is better with it than without it."
punkman: (this from raspberry folks)
punkman: asciilifeform: did you get the Asus C101PA working?
punkman: "The vast majority of our customers care nothing about open source or closed binary blobs" << yeah I guess the customers just wanted them to pretend about being "open source", and they got exactly what they really wanted
dulapbot: (trilema) 2015-03-06 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and deliberately pseudo-open architecture (runs linux, sure, but with massive closed blobs required even to boot. and vendor regularly pays media mouthpieces to lie about it; also posts astroturfed comments)
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-27#1049025 << >> http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-12-26#1027318
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-27 18:01:14 punkman: asciilifeform: did you get the Asus C101PA working?
dulapbot: Logged on 2020-12-26 14:45:07 asciilifeform: macc24: there's been afaik no major discoveries, by anyone, re: subj, since my orig. overview of cr50.
asciilifeform: punkman: i'm assuming your q was 'did you find a way to disarm the boobytrap'. answer is nope.
asciilifeform: to disarm it needs, near as i was able to tell (with substantial effort to look for bugs) -- their rsa privkey.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-27#1049023 << archaetypical redditware.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-27 17:59:58 punkman: after years of "we are working on it!", finally back to "We are not hung up on having to supply closed source firmware, we take the pragmatic approach that life is better with it than without it."
punkman: asciilifeform: did you find any other non-laptop rockhips worth using?
punkman: or was pogo the last good one
punkman: frankly I can't blame the raspberry folks too much. it's a business, what can you do, spend years on own firmware to make box that doesn't run youtube video? no, they built empire instead
punkman: the raspberry keyboard is kinda cool, cpu integrated, you just plug it into monitor. I'd give it noobs that need small linux box.
billymg: whaack: set target python version to 2.7 in /etc/portage/make.conf and emerge mod_wsgi again, i ran into the same issue
whaack: billymg: ty, figured it out, but that was it
gregory4: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-27#1048954 << it is openly admitted that there are different ways of counting generations.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-27 10:17:34 PeterL: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-22#1048066 << in my experience, 1st gen typically refers to children of immigrants, 2nd gen is grandchildren of immigrants. Asciilifeform would be gen 0
gregory4: the drawback of counting based on birth is that naturalized immigrants and their children occupy the same generation.
gregory4: (assuming that the children were not born within the United States)
gregory4: taking the Oath (or any oath) is a serious act IMO. the child who did not take the Oath should not be groups with the parents who did.
gregory4: *be grouped
gregory4: speaking of the Rasberry Pi, has anyone tried "riscos" before? any thoughts?
gregory4: I mean, does it have any perceivable advantages over Linux?
whaack: !e height
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-27#1049037 << pogo wasn't a rockchip, was 32bit 'marvell'
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-27 18:28:00 punkman: or was pogo the last good one
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-27#1049036 << rk3328. there were 6 of'em installed at piz; now several at asciilifeform's isp, w/ same os.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-27 18:27:40 punkman: asciilifeform: did you find any other non-laptop rockhips worth using?
gregory4: I missed out on the entire PogoPlug cycle, sadly.
asciilifeform: gregory4: didn't miss anything that'd be interesting today.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-27#1049047 << who has seen bureaucracy, 'will not laugh at the circus'. asciilifeform for instance had to go in 3y after rest of family (and already in possession of u.s. passport!) to get oath and 'naturalization cert'. university demanded, for inscrutable reason. went to 'ins', they grudgingly disgorged.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-27 19:33:29 gregory4: taking the Oath (or any oath) is a serious act IMO. the child who did not take the Oath should not be groups with the parents who did.
gregory4: asciilifeform: so you were already a citizen, but your university demanded that you obtain a "naturalization cert?"
gregory4: that sounds quite inconvenient. sorry to hear.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-05-19 15:09:34 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: fwiw my 'pine' is gathering dust. my patience ran out after 2 minutes of 'pushed key, but cursor moves 5s later'
asciilifeform: punkman: there's afaik to this day no working blobless xorg for it.
asciilifeform: ( in my racked rk's, did not give half a shit about it, they operate 'headless' )
raw_avocado: I asked a while back wince when did power rangers change the way they store the blockchain, and apparently its from 0.8
raw_avocado: So i noticed that now there is this folder chainstate, where it stores the UTXO set
raw_avocado: And(hope i am not getting this wrong) but the blockchain its just a patch to the current UTXO set
raw_avocado: Is there something wrong with this model? Why does TRB not use it?
raw_avocado: adlai: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-23#1048155 << because autism thats why
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-23 04:44:34 adlai: fwiw the whole "witness" nomenclature always pissed me off; if anything, it primed me towards not being a rabid supporter of the idea. why use the synonym, when everyone had been calling them "signatures" for the entire history of bitcoin until then?
thimbronion: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-27#1049070 << If anyone wishes to test out the "udpnet" plz gpggram your seekrit IP, and I will reply with mine.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-27 22:01:13 thimbronion: http://thimbron.com/2021/07/prototype-udp-based-irc-emulator/
raw_avocado: punkman: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-23#1048169 << was this not let as be because we can always solve with SF?
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-23 05:06:11 punkman26: https://archive.fo/UfVoC vintage segwit objections
raw_avocado: adlai: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-23#1048175 << can you link the article?
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-23 05:13:48 adlai: finds it noteworthy that, in his article about suicide, Mircea wrote that the way in which a man plans to die does possibly have significance; and is not a drowning in the open ocean arguably a way of choosing to die?