(trilema) shinohai: moar dns please
(trilema) mircea_popescu: ie, the ip sharing aspect of dns you mean ?
(trilema) trinque: how otherwise to abandon using DNS?
(trilema) trinque: you can kill dns any time
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey can we kill dns yet?
(trilema) trinque: asciilifeform: https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/dns-over-https << trigger warning
(trilema) asciilifeform: 'Recently, some of the major companies that provide the basic infrastructure that makes the Internet work have seen an increase in DDoS attacks against them.' << taking this at face value would mean what ? how does one ddos a backbone router ? or lemme guess, he paints dns as 'essential infrastructure'.
(trilema) Framedragger: filtering udp, seriously. so no dns over udp ("dns must die" - well, i guess, fair...)
(trilema) scriba: Logged on 2016-09-07: [21:05:39] <trinque> and de-dns'd
(trilema) scriba: Logged on 2016-09-07: [1/5] [21:05:39] <trinque> and de-dns'd
(trilema) trinque: and de-dns'd
(trilema) mircea_popescu: dns ?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: my dns never propagates, remember ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dns probably hasn't propagated to you
(trilema) asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/#footnote_1_65060 << him ?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/ << the dns one apparently.
(trilema) asciilifeform: http://git.gnupg.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=gnupg.git;a=blob;f=dirmngr/dns-stuff.c;h=191719e932e8995b7876fcffd0ff809c18f47334;hb=refs/heads/STABLE-BRANCH-2-2#l102 << why is there even a 'tor mode' ?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: uh google com wtf is that. not in my dns list.
(trilema) asciilifeform: sooo if mircea_popescu gets a new userid (say he throws out his polimedia domain because dns is run by hitler) i have to compare the mods manually ?
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: great till your dns is jacked.
(trilema) phf: well, if you guys concerned about dns ownership, you should look into ip range allocations sometime
(trilema) asciilifeform: (i haven't any dispute re dns being a work of evil, from day 1, but the rms solution is not a solution and i will continue to laugh)
(trilema) asciilifeform: try asking them to do next mission without dns.
(trilema) asciilifeform: y'know, it STILL counts as dns'in if you send gurlz to do it...
(trilema) asciilifeform: just as i run, e.g., virii, which like to use dns.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: asciilifeform real men ban dns traffic on their net machines.
(trilema) asciilifeform: but didja know, how WORLD WORX, ya CAN'T HAVE computer without dns and updatez!111111111111111
(trilema) asciilifeform: '...The attackers used multiple interesting and unusual techniques, including: Data exfiltration and real-time status reporting using DNS requests. Implant deployment using legitimate software update scripts....'
(trilema) privkeytones: I can only reach it intermittently for some reason, seems the DNS address cannot be found..
(trilema) mircea_popescu: (take for instance the "independent" demo as described in http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/#footnote_6_65060 and more generally by Ballas. it's well over 100k loi, most of which are involved with covering up the fact that there's any ideology at work in the first place)
(trilema) Framedragger: ah, actually freenode blocks connection eventually anyway since tor node in dnsbl and whatnot, so that's not a good argument anyway i guess
(trilema) asciilifeform: (dns existed for eons, and there was an old and bitrotten thing there which is no moar)
(trilema) mircea_popescu: recreating dns one step at a time ;/
(trilema) shinohai: that's what dns lookup for coinbr returns for me
(trilema) Framedragger: a yea it's dns related, not just "down". curious
(trilema) thestringpuller: guess no point in using dns if you have the proxy ips
(trilema) mircea_popescu: well there's a bit of a dns storm, but use old ips
(trilema) asciilifeform: many years ago, i was working in uni. of md., in the same building as one of the 'root dns' boxes. we had no fewer than 4 stationary diesels, of various makes. they worked.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: davout own docker/aws/tor/silk road/nsa/cloudflare/dns/you name it.
(trilema) asciilifeform: as for ddosing, usg infrastructure is ddosproof because they multi-head their dns or whatever the term was for the thing you can ONLY do with crapflare
(trilema) mircea_popescu: map the entire dns system, eavesdrop the entire internet, create your own dns, launch satellites and nukes (hey, who's to say what peripherals a given machine has, amirite ?), whatever.
(trilema) asciilifeform: usg controls dns. hoster - server.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: In the sense of: http://bauhh.dyndns.org:8000/clim-spec/index.html
(trilema) Framedragger: i think i once contacted them about running a tor exit node there, they had said well if you put in your own reverse dns info for the ip block we give you then we 100% don't give a shit
(trilema) asciilifeform: dulap (nosuchlabs.com, but recall we have no dns, it is 46.166.165.30 for trb purposes)
(trilema) davout: because obviously DNS implementations won't let you use a value that's more than 0XFF chars long
(trilema) asciilifeform: e.g. trb and dns.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: ah no, it's handled as a round robin. you ask for it, dns server gives you the least loaded ip
(trilema) mircea_popescu: i dunno, i don't use dns.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: in this case the dns round robin went to shit i suspec.
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2016-04-17 08:17 mircea_popescu: sooo, freenode is patently going to shit. their dns round robin list is about half as long as it used to be, with stuff in the same subnet even, never seen before. and half the shit dun work, like say 185.30.166/24
(trilema) mircea_popescu: sooo, freenode is patently going to shit. their dns round robin list is about half as long as it used to be, with stuff in the same subnet even, never seen before. and half the shit dun work, like say 185.30.166/24
(trilema) mircea_popescu: shitty google srsly. what, i'm going to click wikipedia links now ? isn't even in my dns list.
(trilema) asciilifeform: e.g., dns.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: obviously enumerable, impossible to evaluate. and incidentally - how many fucking weekedns omfg!
(trilema) thestringpuller: "The server at qntra.net can't be found, because the DNS lookup failed."
(trilema) asciilifeform: http://git.gnupg.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=gnupg.git;a=commit;h=6fafda979df8e7e117f8e6929bcce89513a6e746 << refuses to BUILD if dns is not available.
(trilema) asciilifeform: ^ run moar dns
(trilema) assbot: Please stop using DNS already, and other considerations on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1XPA1bf )
(trilema) mircea_popescu: see also first paragraph of http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/#comment-116653
(trilema) mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-02-2016#1418117 << they have to put in some emergency patches once people here have started blocking dns autoresolution.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-02-2016#1418093 << accessibility , for the record, is another dns/ntp/font bs.
(trilema) assbot: Please stop using DNS already, and other considerations on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1XPA1bf )
(trilema) mircea_popescu: in somewhat other news, http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/#comment-116653
(trilema) mircea_popescu: i'd personally much prefer unicode join the scrap heap with "pki", dns, ntp etc.
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 24-02-2016 20:56:40; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2016#1414325 << http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/#selection-347.0-359.40
(trilema) assbot: Please stop using DNS already, and other considerations on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1RoapzD )
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 24-02-2016 16:10:30; asciilifeform: so i wanted to link to mircea_popescu's article about dns, and the hypothetical demented gf who punctures the water pipes
(trilema) mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2016#1414325 << http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/#selection-347.0-359.40
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 24-02-2016 16:05:09; punkman: http://dnsmasq.org/ maybe
(trilema) mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2016#1414311 << dnsmasq works just fine, yes.
(trilema) asciilifeform: so i wanted to link to mircea_popescu's article about dns, and the hypothetical demented gf who punctures the water pipes
(trilema) asciilifeform: (that is, by thermonuking ALL dns invocations)
(trilema) punkman: any tiny dns resolvers one could use for this?
(trilema) asciilifeform: seems like you end up having to run own dns server, to do this.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: https://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/archive.is << half the world sees it as 46.17.100.191, the rest sees it as 37.97.156.202
(trilema) trinque: or whichever DNS server
(trilema) mircea_popescu: like say intodns.com
(trilema) mircea_popescu: PeterL you can put any website that checks dns on your short list if you wish
(trilema) PeterL: regarding removing dns, is there a replacement mechanism for resolving hosts not on your short list?
(trilema) pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: sharp piece on dns. looking forward to this being 'news' in 2019.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there was iirc a flaw with chinese remainders, that was introduced much like the dns hole, for no reason, and then burned.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: but hey, why say this. why say dns is bs. why say any of the things that actually matter, when instead could just discuss convenient generalities.
(trilema) assbot: Please stop using DNS already, and other considerations on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1oDpHYg )
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/#comment-116612
(trilema) deedbot-: [Trilema] Please stop using DNS already, and other considerations - http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 22-02-2016 12:06:43; mircea_popescu: in other lolz, the interwebs offers exactly 0 information on how to turn dns lookups off, or itable it away, or ufw/csf/etc it shut, or any of that. because apparently this is not something one could want to do. it will break your internet! why ? dns is about as useful as painted wings on a cow, there's exactly nothing internet-wise that needs (or for that matter even significantly benefits from) dns
(trilema) mircea_popescu: in other lolz, the interwebs offers exactly 0 information on how to turn dns lookups off, or itable it away, or ufw/csf/etc it shut, or any of that. because apparently this is not something one could want to do. it will break your internet! why ? dns is about as useful as painted wings on a cow, there's exactly nothing internet-wise that needs (or for that matter even significantly benefits from) dns. nevertheless it's
(trilema) asciilifeform: the other lul from the thread was the people (?) vigorously denying that a unix box could run without ever invoking dns
(trilema) assbot: ScatoshiNukamoto comments on Most Bitcoin Clients Affected By GLIBC DNS Vulnerability ... ( http://bit.ly/1PDB8Yp )
(trilema) asciilifeform: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/46354z/most_bitcoin_clients_affected_by_glibc_dns/d02dax4 << lulzy
(trilema) assbot: nullc comments on Most Bitcoin Clients Affected By GLIBC DNS Vulnerability ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qjto19 )
(trilema) davout: "we can't remove this thing from our code because it breaks some unnecessary feature, also random reasons maybe" <-> https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/46354z/most_bitcoin_clients_affected_by_glibc_dns/d027oy0
(trilema) davout: anyway, the glibc dns drama seems to be yielding large amounts of lulz and butthurt
(trilema) assbot: Red Hat, Google Disclose Severe Glibc DNS Vulnerability; Patched But Widespread - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RK77Zr )
(trilema) BingoBoingo: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/16/02/16/1724222/red-hat-google-disclose-severe-glibc-dns-vulnerability-patched-but-widespread
(trilema) assbot: Nearly All Bitcoin Nodes Affected By Glibc DNS Vulnerability : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1RK5ScJ )
(trilema) BingoBoingo: Ah most of the discussion so far is where it is expected https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/463a0r/nearly_all_bitcoin_nodes_affected_by_glibc_dns/
(trilema) assbot: Most Bitcoin Clients Affected By GLIBC DNS Vulnerability (Includes Core, Classic, and XT) : btc ... ( http://bit.ly/20BFC4I )
(trilema) assbot: Most Bitcoin Clients Affected By GLIBC DNS Vulnerability (Includes Core, Classic, and XT) : btc ... ( http://bit.ly/20BF6DR )
(trilema) deedbot-: [Qntra] Google Unveils Glibc DNS Client Vulnerability Many Bitcoin Implementations Affected - http://qntra.net/2016/02/google-unveils-glibc-dns-client-vulnerability-many-bitcoin-implementations-affected/
(trilema) assbot: Google Unveils Glibc DNS Client Vulnerability Many Bitcoin Implementations Affected | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrHczf )
(trilema) BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2016/02/google-unveils-glibc-dns-client-vulnerability-many-bitcoin-implementations-affected/
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also recall, i excised not only dns but glibc
(trilema) asciilifeform: 'The glibc DNS client side resolver is vulnerable to a stack-based buffer overflow when the getaddrinfo() library function is used. Software using this function may be exploited with attacker-controlled domain names, attacker-controlled DNS servers, or through a man-in-the-middle attack.'
(trilema) asciilifeform: (for anyone who forgot, prb still has hardcoded dns seed etc)
(trilema) trinque: death to dns
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah man dns a fuck
(trilema) assbot: intoDNS: btcbase.org - check DNS server and mail server health ... ( http://bit.ly/1SxGMNP )
(trilema) mircea_popescu: phf http://www.intodns.com/btcbase.org and btw, did i say how much i like the blue and red and shit ?
(trilema) asciilifeform: these were the stimulus for the whole dns thermonuke thing
(trilema) phf: apropos, which version is display on lxr? i noticed that it still has GetMyExternalIP logic, with dyndns etc.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: think dns, if getting other websites i like would be as easy as adding 1 to "trilema.com"...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is HOSTALIASES a thing on linuxen besides ubuntu? v-dns sounds nifty, but i'd like to maintain my own entries.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: so atm, as a working theory : the correct working of the nosuchdns script would be a) look in sigils directory and build list of sigils ; b) look in repository (where ?) for what's signed by the sigils ; c) create a sort -u list of the aformenentioned and dump it in hosts as > ratrher thjan >> ?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: the reference was to explain to copypaste why he can't have both worlds / what the use of current dns arrangement is.
(trilema) jurov: what does DNS-replacement-by-v need to be done? just take your /etc/hosts, sign and publish, no?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: it also introduces a kinda dubious but possibly useful ddos protector, in the sense that one can run different ips for the meatriver and for the wotdns.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: and incidentally, how the dns was actually designed to be used. the current centralist windowstardian webstupidity only works the way it works because of the userbase. the design is fine, but "everyone"| and "has come to expect" and bullshit like that make people pretend like a suboptimal local maximum is relevant to the graph. well... it ain't.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: "i want to use the dns for back-up, whenever what ~these~ people use doesn't contain an answer". seems pretty cool.
(trilema) copypaste: dns was good in the time of fiat, it's worthless for the new paradigm.
(trilema) adlai wasn't aware that there was one single blessed version, DNS is just the good-enough fiat leftover that we have today
(trilema) adlai: someday somebody will care enough about this to cannibalize what's left of namecoin and build a proper Bitcoin DNS
(trilema) mircea_popescu: there is no "real" dns.
(trilema) copypaste: oh sure, but you don't get to create names on the real DNS
(trilema) mircea_popescu: but in point of fact you can run a dns server right now, and tell everyone to use it, and for everyone who does use it... your version of the ns will be visible.
(trilema) copypaste: i would accept a WoT DNS
(trilema) copypaste: and DNS is fiat biased
(trilema) copypaste: the wot works better than DNS
(trilema) mircea_popescu: obviously EVERY naming system will work exactly like the dns, or like the wot works : either be at the table, or be a child looking for parents.
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 06:40:37; copypaste: well BingoBoingo, i'd also recommend you read this in case you need a refresher on how DNS actually works http://www.kimmoa.se/The_rotten_and_corrupt_Domain_Name_System/
(trilema) copypaste: therefore DNS is USG
(trilema) copypaste: DNS is ICANN and ICANN is USG
(trilema) mircea_popescu: anyway, judging by the [Ticket#2015121310000406] header it'd seem they sat on this for almost a month - from dec 13 to jan 9th. but whatevers, i was just looking for a pretext to throw the whole dns bullshit away anyway.
(trilema) copypaste: indeed. the problem with DNS is how entrenched it is.
(trilema) copypaste: (for DNS _)
(trilema) mats: whats this gpg based dns system
(trilema) copypaste: BingoBoingo: we all know that the best DNS system is a GPG based one. private key trumps all nebulous ideas of "ownership" and "terms of service".
(trilema) BingoBoingo: And Glibc DNS functions force dynamic linking which is why excised from trb
(trilema) BingoBoingo: DNS works as NSA spyware
(trilema) assbot: The rotten and corrupt Domain Name System (DNS; EuroDNS = thieves) - KimmoA.se ... ( http://bit.ly/1RF4Nlu )
(trilema) copypaste: well BingoBoingo, i'd also recommend you read this in case you need a refresher on how DNS actually works http://www.kimmoa.se/The_rotten_and_corrupt_Domain_Name_System/
(trilema) mircea_popescu: the dns derps keep going on about how important and bla bla they are - but by comparison they're 13yo's at the beach, making sandcastles.
(trilema) phf: that seams like a fate of every registrar. none of them go "remember how dyndns used to be literally one html page with a post to buy and post to update? let's do that!"
(trilema) mircea_popescu: o. my bad. fuck dns with a stick.
(trilema) asciilifeform: run moar dns.
(trilema) asciilifeform: dns seeds << l0l
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu proposes to manage dns without authentication? is this like the mythical bezzlebroker who only communicates in gpggrams with $maxint clients?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: so one sees a "Notice: Important changes to our payment options starting Tuesday 29th of December 2015" from his NEW dns keeper and figures OMFG i'm gonna burn these people down, i JUST moved.
(trilema) davout: mircea_popescu: now it works, also nice DNS servers, ten points to gryffyndor
(trilema) mircea_popescu: <davout> DNS resolution doesn't seem to work << what do you see ?
(trilema) davout: DNS resolution doesn't seem to work
(trilema) thestringpuller: what's going on with qntra? is it dns this time?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: implies deps on dns, net, a million failure points.
(trilema) TheNewDeal: DNS lookup failures for me
(trilema) mod6: <+asciilifeform> it splits off from the node immediately prior to the removal << so in this scenario, the antecedents of asciilifeform_ver_no_5_4_and_irc_is_gone_and_now_must_give_ip.vpatch are [dns_thermonyukyoolar, rev-bump, static_makefile_v002, genesis ]
(trilema) trinque: how bout that, #b-a l0gz DNS
(trilema) asciilifeform: http://www.fc00.org << map of cjdns net. imho the fact that it is possible to draw this map is a serious flaw.
(trilema) asciilifeform: 'Cjdns addresses are the first 16 bytes (128 bits) of the double SHA-512 of the public key.'
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 19-12-2015 12:18:53; wywialm: hi, do you know anything about cjdns https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns/blob/master/doc/Whitepaper.md
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 19-12-2015 12:18:53; wywialm: hi, do you know anything about cjdns https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns/blob/master/doc/Whitepaper.md
(trilema) mircea_popescu: !s cjdns
(trilema) assbot: cjdns/Whitepaper.md at master · cjdelisle/cjdns · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1PcH1v3 )
(trilema) wywialm: hi, do you know anything about cjdns https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns/blob/master/doc/Whitepaper.md
(trilema) adlai: BingoBoingo: i'll be rooting for it... but i can't load qntra now, DNS is up to its usual reliability standards
(trilema) mircea_popescu: Christopher Allen Former CTO Certicom Co-Author TLS 1.0 ; Jon Callas Former CTO of PGP Now CTO Silent Circle ; Greg Maxwell Bitcoin Core Maintainer CTO Blockstream ; Peter Todd Bitcoin Core Contributor ; Greg Slepak OKTurtles and DNSChain ; Markus Sabadello OASIS XDI Internet Identity ; Vitalik Buterin Founder of Ethereum and Bitcoin Magazine ; F. Randall Farmer Author of "Building Web Reputation Systems" ; Pie
(trilema) adlai: shame, even coinbrlive is a victim of dns tardation
(trilema) mircea_popescu: which makes about as much sense as anything to do with dns, really.
(trilema) assbot: cjdns/black-hole.md at master · cjdelisle/cjdns · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1IjmzZO )
(trilema) punkman: ah of course https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns/blob/master/doc/bugs/black-hole.md
(trilema) punkman: !s cjdns
(trilema) punkman: I was reading more about cjdns yesterday, anyone here run a node?
(trilema) adlai: byzantine dns are the best failures
(trilema) mircea_popescu: looks like some dns issue.
(trilema) asciilifeform: ddos is really an artifact of dns
(trilema) mircea_popescu: anyway : the delegation is correct, the whole node just happens to be down. http://www.intodns.com/qntra.net
(trilema) mircea_popescu: meh. dns ftw.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: dns, a solution nobody wants for a problem nobody has.
(trilema) mircea_popescu would never use this if it came to not using dns altogether.
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 03:02:58; asciilifeform: i'm actually kind surprised that none of these dns records suddenly decided to point to dhs 'confiscated!1111' page, quite yet
(trilema) asciilifeform: i'm actually kind surprised that none of these dns records suddenly decided to point to dhs 'confiscated!1111' page, quite yet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dns is some dum shit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dns, pro, lol
(trilema) mircea_popescu: omfg but they have all the dnssec theatre ! !!! they;'re so credible, with their "And then we boot the single failure point laptop from ~~~a dvd~~~" bullshit.
(trilema) asciilifeform: trinque: dns was never alive
(trilema) trinque: can we kill dns and http yet?
(trilema) assbot: The DNSSEC Root Signing Ceremony | CloudFlare | The web performance & security company ... ( http://bit.ly/1O525mI )
(trilema) assbot: The DNSSEC Root Signing Ceremony | CloudFlare | The web performance & security company ... ( http://bit.ly/1PDAASW )
(trilema) asciilifeform: (everything build with vs, plenty of identifying strings littered therein, as is the custom, uses hardcoded dns turds, etc.)
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: his dns last changed in... sept. 2012. entirely possible that the man is dead.
(trilema) deedbot-: [cascadian hacker] excising DNS lookups from bitcoind: asciilifeform's patches - http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/06/21_excising-dns-lookups-from-bitcoind-asciilifeforms-patches.html
(trilema) asciilifeform is l0ling over 'norsena corp.' in mircea_popescu's dns
(trilema) asciilifeform: it still blows my mind that we're relying on a thing that sits on top of dns.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: anyway, the reason this went by unobserved for ~20 hours is that a) internal mail still worked, obviousyl, and b) enom decently adds its record with priority 10. there's a bugfeature apparently where some relayers/dns servers prefer higher priority records even if older.
(trilema) punkman: am disappoint, dns poisoning would've been cool
(trilema) mircea_popescu: "After reviewing your chat transcripts, it appears in the first chat that the Junior Administrator stated specifically what the issue was, which is that the domain is expired as of 8/7/2011. There was also clarification provided that you'd need to contact the registrar directly for the renewal and to update the DNS back to our name-servers."
(trilema) mircea_popescu: so upon examination it turns out that polimedia mx dns record has been poisoned somehow, or what the fuck.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276129 << i wasn't giving a shit then, either, for one thing. for the other ;; ANSWER SECTION: qntra.net.0INA188.68.240.165 so i dunno, maybe dns sucked then ? no idea.
(trilema) copypaste: both my ISP DNS and 8.8.8.8
(trilema) copypaste: i receive SERVERROR from DNS
(trilema) mats: dns is fucky on this end
(trilema) mircea_popescu: h < asciilifeform_dns_thermonyukyoolar_kleansing_691f046b0a66c2c80deecd8df0b42d11665b0396.patch < asciilifeform_ver_now_5_4_and_irc_is_gone_and_now_must_give_ip_ebed1af0253ef629bbef4bf2b2d1a94742a81f0e.patch
(trilema) mircea_popescu: bitcoin < asciilifeform_dnsseed_snipsnip_192f7bc7c14c1d31c7b417c9cd77be51c4d255f2.patch < asciilifeform_orphanage_thermonuke_2d219fdd1a0da960be38797566e9c0820df11ce6.patch < asciilifeform_tx-orphanage_amputation_6ed529e594301a791fb2f8becbe344dd2de9c45f.patch < asciilifeform_zap_hardcoded_seeds_a367b89765d0b82ce2c7f8043f52006399a1e0b8.patch < asciilifeform_zap_showmyip_crud_ebf527ba3b180b1952c4c8b5af990c1fd61e04da.patc
(trilema) asciilifeform: in fact that would leave dns invocation in
(trilema) mircea_popescu: asciilifeform_dnsseed_snipsnip_192f7bc7c14c1d31c7b417c9cd77be51c4d255f2.patch
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 12:52:20; jurov: are dns samples "cultural exchange"?
(trilema) jurov: are dns samples "cultural exchange"?
(trilema) phf: why you write your dns of course in lisp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the impl handls the dns parts of pathnames
(trilema) trinque: apparently in pure lispland you'd never once DNS
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > dns resolutino
(trilema) trinque: phf: and if that useful computation is DNS?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-08-2015#1257273 << your dns calls might be rate limited somewhere ?
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 14:53:37; kakobrekla: its generally wise to avoid dns where possible
(trilema) mircea_popescu: NAT routers ? ntp servers ? dns servers ? what
(trilema) assbot: Silicon Valley's 'Startup Castle' is looking for roommates, and the requirements are completely bonkers | Fusion ... ( http://bit.ly/1hDnsAx )
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 16-08-2015 00:54:40; hanbot: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=11-08-2015#1235149 << for the record i bungled this, built a (seemingly working nevertheless) frankenstein patch-quilt (dnsseed_snipsnip, thermonyukyoolar_kleansing, kills-integer-retardation, ver_now_5_4_endless_name_string, zap_hardcoded_seeds, showmyip_crud, if anyone's interested).
(trilema) hanbot: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=11-08-2015#1235149 << for the record i bungled this, built a (seemingly working nevertheless) frankenstein patch-quilt (dnsseed_snipsnip, thermonyukyoolar_kleansing, kills-integer-retardation, ver_now_5_4_endless_name_string, zap_hardcoded_seeds, showmyip_crud, if anyone's interested).
(trilema) mod6: <+hanbot> re ml: where are sha256sums for, eg, http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000040.html (patch)? << Hi, in the case of that patch email, the SHA1 sum is embedded in the file name. For example: asciilifeform_dnsseed_snipsnip_192f7bc7c14c1d31c7b417c9cd77be51c4d255f2.patch -- if you were to download this patch, you could then run `sha1sum asciilifeform_dnsseed_snipsnip_192f7bc7c14c1d31c7b417c9cd77be51c4d255f2.patch` and it sh
(trilema) BingoBoingo: DNS is fucked. Apparently the following link works for some mongoloids http://gawker.com|gawker.com/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hm i can't find the dulap dns record in search.bitcoin-assets.com
(trilema) asciilifeform: shinohai: please remember that therealbitcoin does not dns
(trilema) BingoBoingo contemplates DNS and IRC snip on his 0.7 branch, wonders how much his 0.7 will look like 0.5 if the cutting continues
(trilema) jurov: how is banning of udp going to magick dns/ntp away?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: no more udp => no more dns, no more ntp. win of all fucking time, i'd pay to see this happen tomorrow.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: i still wish udp died, and with it all the "Services" it provides. starting with dns, ntp and come to think about it
(trilema) mircea_popescu: and speaking of udp : fucking dns definitely must go away. stupidest kludge o nthe whole internet.
(trilema) kakobrekla: my dns resolves archive.is to 178.79.131.122 instead
(trilema) mircea_popescu: course we nuked dns meanwhile, but the power rangers will have problems.
(trilema) kakobrekla: its generally wise to avoid dns where possible
(trilema) asciilifeform: but must remind folks, no dns in therealbitcoin
(trilema) asciilifeform: 96... - zoolag.ddns.net
(trilema) kakobrekla: do they have any dns entries set? (i know you cant use it directly)