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mod6: !up ben_vulpes
BingoBoingo: !up okcupidslut
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42111 @ 0.00057857 = 24.3642 BTC [+] {3}
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415142 << there is no open-source equivalent. last time I checked.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 03:34:48; asciilifeform: who the everloving fuck ~buys~ dvdrip proggy?!
punkman: it handled all kinds of DRM and related crapolade
BingoBoingo: !up Chicago
assbot: BD+ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1OwhCJk )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73525 @ 0.00057861 = 42.5423 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40225 @ 0.00057867 = 23.277 BTC [+] {3}
punkman: no open-source alternatives, and from a quick search, seems like no proprietary alternatives either, unless you only need a subset of the functionality.
punkman: disc pirates can only get around some DRM schemes by finding discs that don't have it.
punkman: maybe S.NSA should sell AlfDVD sometime in the future ;)
punkman: I'd also buy shares in S.SLY if it was a thing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21072 @ 0.00057016 = 12.0144 BTC [-]
assbot: Kraken Bitcoin Exchange — Kraken Announces Significant Progress In MtGox... ... ( http://bit.ly/1Rph9x2 )
punkman: oh wait that was last week
ben_vulpes: > 24,733 people around the world have filed bankruptcy claims related to the MtGox exchange
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 2.35053338 BTC on 'Yes' - Donald Trump gets Republican Nomination - http://bitbet.us/bet/1206/donald-trump-gets-republican-nomination/#b116
BingoBoingo: punkman: Also they stole hanbot's pirateat40 joke for their exchange name
ben_vulpes: aww i missed the cascadian-hunting ok cupid slut!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.0005721 = 15.8472 BTC [+] {2}
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2016#1414470 << i am categorically unqualified to opine on this
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2016 19:50:12; mircea_popescu: well lessee here, one of mod6 ben_vulpes give an opinion on this ?
ben_vulpes: why ask a yoke-fly anything?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7128 @ 0.00057541 = 4.1015 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50672 @ 0.00057869 = 29.3234 BTC [+]
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00100000 BTC on 'No' - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match - http://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#b90
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10817 @ 0.00057869 = 6.2597 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13433 @ 0.00057883 = 7.7754 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47025 @ 0.00057301 = 26.9458 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15791 @ 0.00057207 = 9.0336 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3275 @ 0.00057277 = 1.8758 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37300 @ 0.00057887 = 21.5919 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: lol BingoBoingo upping all the sluts
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo> punkman: Also they stole hanbot's pirateat40 joke for their exchange name << 24`733 people around the world tried to run off with shit and it still didn't work for them.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> i am categorically unqualified to opine on this << wasn't a matter of cryptography, merely of you know, "what's reasonable management of contest"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415190 << you know, back when bali was actually a thing, and actually worth going to. as opposed to "yet another ustard strip mall", which... seriously who the fuck wants to go tourist in those ? and if they wanted to, why not just go to disneyworld and be done with it.
shinohai: "The mircea_popescu school for third-world sluts"
mircea_popescu: more like japanese basic literacy school for islanders.
mircea_popescu: note however the incidence of decent boobs in the population. out of 8 visible, 3 or 4 are miserable, 3 or 4 are acceptable, 2 or 3 pretty good actually.
mircea_popescu: i call this the mp rule of tit thirds.
mircea_popescu: and we know for a fact that the tits ~were~ a major factor in the academic performance of these girls, because the better boobs (with maybe one exception) agglomerate at the front and between the teachers.
mircea_popescu: the temptation to presume this somehow invalidates the curriculum and teachers' approach however is not necessarily warranted. it may be that women with better tits are simply better women overall, which includes both an ability and an interest in learning.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415174. << cracking the disk crypto is 'plugging the wrong end of the funnel'. the hdmi copyprptection key leaked eons ago, just pick the frames up on the other end of the tv cable, emitted by an official player!
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 06:31:39; punkman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BD%2B
mircea_popescu: nevertheless fun.
asciilifeform not an aficionado of ultra-highres fi
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415216 << 'big-G' (or 'generalized fitness factor') hypothesis
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 12:46:13; mircea_popescu: the temptation to presume this somehow invalidates the curriculum and teachers' approach however is not necessarily warranted. it may be that women with better tits are simply better women overall, which includes both an ability and an interest in learning.
asciilifeform: pretty sure we had the thread
asciilifeform: with, e.g., myelin.
asciilifeform: 'how ~little~ sand in the developmental gears'
mircea_popescu: it's not too hard to discover that small tits and annoying, nagging, deeply insecure personality correlate quite well in practice, and so the historical male preference for big tits that actually drove the monstrous mamomegalia that principally distinguishes us from monkeys could well be rather explainable.
mircea_popescu: (and yes - it's not "the ability to communicate", as early darwinists thought, out of their inclination towards pious frauds to favour socialism, that distinguishes us from animals. nor is it "an ability to make and use tools", as the 50s folk retreated to in desperation. no, none of that - just this, that our females have tits so deeply disproportionate to their bodies it is unseen in nature. CIVILISATION!)
asciilifeform: possibly reversed causation here
mircea_popescu: obviously.
mircea_popescu: but the fact remains that if i am examining the photo data from foreign planet with life on it,
mircea_popescu: ima try to identify the mammaries and pick the species with the largest ones as a candidate for intelligence.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29240 @ 0.00057547 = 16.8267 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: (this, for any deeply insecure personalities that may be reading the logs, does neither say that big is good thus therefore bigger is necessarily better, nor does it propose that there can't be a "big enough". so simmer down.)
mircea_popescu: with great power&fame comes great responsibility, eh.
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415217 this is a poor approximation of decrypting the disk. doesn't it mean capture time equals video length? what about alt audio tracks, subtitles, etc? Perhaps inconsequential, but things like Cinavia would persist in captured video.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 12:54:31; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415174. << cracking the disk crypto is 'plugging the wrong end of the funnel'. the hdmi copyprptection key leaked eons ago, just pick the frames up on the other end of the tv cable, emitted by an official player!
asciilifeform: how many times it is done ?
asciilifeform: 1 per disk
mircea_popescu: lulzy bullshit a la cinavia is trivially defeated if you care to, irrespective of how the material was obtained.
mircea_popescu: and if you don't care to, well... you didn't care to.
mircea_popescu: (prolly not worth caring to, afaik the only utility of "NN"/"AI" image recognition to date is to recognize films)
asciilifeform: and why even
asciilifeform: don't buy the boobytrapped player
asciilifeform: problem solved.
mircea_popescu: even better : don't use any electronics with closed bullshit. what, can't play on computor ?
asciilifeform: and, as i said, capture the frames.
mircea_popescu: i've never bought any of the non-computing computer crap since the fucking 90s. which includes no fucking playstation, no "analog video camera" no bs.
punkman: sure, I don't watch dvds or blu-rays. but you were asking who would buy these things
mircea_popescu: (and yes, my despise of laptops and crapple-ade is well grounded in this strategic choice made 25 years ago. if it is not programmable i am not buying it!)
mircea_popescu: punkman he was ? who the fuck cares about the consumer here that i may negrate him!
mircea_popescu: fucking heresy.
asciilifeform: i still don't get why i oughta care about megahighres film disk.
asciilifeform: other than to help sink the enemy.
mircea_popescu: !s 700mb
assbot: 4 results for '700mb' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=700mb
punkman: no reason you should care. but people that buy these disks cared about anydvd.
mircea_popescu: SHOULD BE ENOUGH FOIR ANY FILM
punkman: nah fuck fixed size and constant bitrate
mircea_popescu: seriously, if you can't paint a canvas within 10x10, or if you can't tell your story in 700mb, you've got other problems than painting or making movies.
asciilifeform: idk, 17 moments of spring
punkman: I've started downloading x265 releases when I can find them, they are pretty great
asciilifeform: was mega-film
mircea_popescu: punkman do you actually watch these or just collect them ?
asciilifeform: but it works fine on a pile of 700m disks
punkman: jus the things I watch
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly.
asciilifeform: 1 per episode
mircea_popescu: also seinfeld is like 300 hours or some shit.
mircea_popescu: but, tv format, who cares, you can push it into one cd per season.
mircea_popescu: that's the other thing you know, every other derp here that i ever visit has bought a huge tv, oft times at a cost that compares to that of his car.
assbot: Warner Bros. sues “HD Fury” over boxes that can copy 4k video | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAMj6C )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18250 @ 0.00057547 = 10.5023 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: and on it... they watch dumbass 2nd hand us sitcoms and mexican tv productions.
asciilifeform: this always melted my brain.
mircea_popescu: TOTALLY worth seeing random schmuck doing nothing in 7k px
punkman: I'm fine with 720p or less
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform honestly i think it's nest building. dudes have discovered that the way to attract washed up ex-whores in family mode is to fill the fridge and mega-tv-couch arrangement.
mircea_popescu: WHY thefuck would someone WANT one of these is beyond the scope of this article, or my capacity to reason.
asciilifeform: same reason folks eat from garbage bin?
asciilifeform: no alternative?
mircea_popescu: but more than on one occasion i could tell the 30-something year old's past by my own cinavia, and the situation was pretty much exactly "i brought her up here after the first date and basically - she never left"
punkman: heh
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415277 << waiWUT - ~chinese~ hw maker killed by us copyrasts?!
punkman: seems alive and selling
asciilifeform: hm site must've been 'slashdotted' at time of article then
asciilifeform: at any rate it is not hard to make a box like this
asciilifeform: take an official lcd tv, attach fpga where the panel ribbon cable was.
asciilifeform: instant decoder.
asciilifeform: works on any idiot copyprotection thing.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47184 @ 0.0005789 = 27.3148 BTC [+] {3}
punkman: hardcoded subs suck
mircea_popescu: now that is true
punkman: "run it twice and diff"
punkman: there are also licensed software players, that route might be easier
asciilifeform: i cite the cable method as a kind of final solution.
asciilifeform: the final muzzle to put in enemy's mouth.
asciilifeform: i don't even care for modern american film.
asciilifeform: but hollywood copyrasty - must die.
asciilifeform: it is necessary for the usg burial.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28162 @ 0.00057547 = 16.2064 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: funny, kinda related to the article im cooking.
jurov: will s.nsa develop and sell them?
mircea_popescu: not a bad idea really.
jurov: but not while the chief engineer is usg subject, i guess
mircea_popescu: the usg has no authority to have subjects.
jurov: ok, ftfy: but not while the chief engineer thinks himself usg subject, i guess
mircea_popescu: possibru not yeh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61600 @ 0.00057168 = 35.2155 BTC [-] {3}
shinohai: https://redd.it/47g89e <<< /me has a feeling this isn't going to end well.
assbot: Next evolution in Bitcoin security: Hardware wallet right in your phone! : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1TGQkYB )
mircea_popescu: shinohai mind using direct links rather than that crap ?
mircea_popescu: notice how the mpoe-pr blowing the cover off pirate is on page 41 in 2013, around the middle, but on page 40 right at the top in 2015 ?
mircea_popescu: some people didn't really want to have said what they did in fact say back in 2012! awww!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37467 @ 0.00057387 = 21.5012 BTC [+] {2}
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assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 14:35:43; jurov: will s.nsa develop and sell them?
asciilifeform: sell what ?
jurov: the boxes discussed 3 lines above it
asciilifeform: didn't punkman link to chinese co. already happily selling ?
asciilifeform: go, buy.
asciilifeform: these aren't cryptoinstruments, parachutes that one lives and dies by.
asciilifeform: buy from lowest bidder.
asciilifeform: it is exactly the kind of item the chinese excell at, and attempting to compete with them on the field would be moronic.
asciilifeform: i won't make tv either.
jurov: i don't see where, you mean the "hd fury" box?
asciilifeform: i ~could~ see an argument for airdropping such thing behind nazi lines
asciilifeform: but this is an idea for ~rich folks~
asciilifeform: and i'm not rich.
asciilifeform: and in any case i'd airdrop radio relays
mircea_popescu: it's unclear that giving away coca-cola for free specifically hurts the thing coca-cola is a head of.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, as usual, nails it.
mircea_popescu: >Existing users, beginning January 1st 2016 you will need to complete a brief installation of a local service in order to continue using this API. Please follow the installation instructions below.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin.info tries to hijack everyone's servers by having them run some closed source item.
kakobrekla: afaik its open.
mircea_popescu: "open". everything's "open".
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 16:12:56; mircea_popescu: >Existing users, beginning January 1st 2016 you will need to complete a brief installation of a local service in order to continue using this API. Please follow the installation instructions below.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i only vaguely track the vctardation.
asciilifeform: anybody got a sample of the binary?
mircea_popescu: nono, it's open see alf ?
mircea_popescu: open like in openssl, but hey.
asciilifeform can't bring himself to care
asciilifeform: open sores.
kakobrekla: i didnt say 'what' is open. could as well be the doors.
mircea_popescu: and windows!
mircea_popescu: "The top games on mobile in 2015 are the same games that were at the top of the charts in 2012" << if that pond ain't dead...
mircea_popescu: gaming being 32% of time spent on mobiles in 2014, 15% in 2015.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00057087 = 5.0522 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415319 << lulzy how the nsa turd in arm cpu catches on with the derps, but wintel 'tpm' didn't
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 14:52:22; shinohai: https://redd.it/47g89e <<< /me has a feeling this isn't going to end well.
asciilifeform: even though quite similar.
phf: https://github.com/sabotage-linux/netbsd-curses a port of netbsd curses targeting musl/linux. we don't really uses anything with curses directly, but for cli interface building, or balinux, a codebase to keep in mind.
assbot: GitHub - sabotage-linux/netbsd-curses: libcurses and dependencies taken from netbsd and brought into a portable (at least to musl) shape ... ( http://bit.ly/1QAhUAm )
asciilifeform: in other nyooz, 'pogo4' is back on crapazon, $18
asciilifeform: phf: neato
asciilifeform: potentially useful.
asciilifeform: i wish i had time to test this.
phf: it's a bit down the pipeline for me. there were some attempts to make cmucl go entirely syscall, but as it stands it's probably 40% there. i want to link it to musl first, and then play around with control interfaces uses curses/cl-charm, which is when i'll test out this thing
asciilifeform: tell me again what the point of cmucl is, when there is sbcl
assbot: Linux-Kernel Archive: [PATCH] MPILIB: Provide count_leading/trailing_zeros() based on archfunctions ... ( http://bit.ly/1TB8sBW )
trinque: in semi-related news, sbcl passes its test suite using --with-sb-thread on openbsd
trinque: when I get around to it I'm going to pester the port maintainer to get a flavor going for that
phf: i kind of look at it like version 0.5.3. there's barely any development on it, very little actively harmful code, if you don't count asdf 3.* in contribs. it works, it can be studied and improved upon, as it stands it's utterly ignored by the cool kids. there are also of course technical merits, the compiler is conceptually identical and on average almost as good (there were many micro optimizations done by sbcl team, but even they are
phf: tradeoffs) and much better for floating. there's still a tightly integrated interpreter (i heard sbcl brought that back in recent releases), so doing eval even on early 2000s machines is almost instantaneous for repl work. memory usage is much much better (pretty sure sbcl core policy is "memory is cheap")
phf: raymond toy does, almost exclusively, code cleanup, bug fixes and work on floating point code (i think he maintains fortran to lisp compiler, that i think he used to (?) make big consulting money with)
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asciilifeform: phf: does cmucl have native threads yet ?
phf: no, and while we're on downsides, unicode integration into the rest of the system is dodgy (there's a lot of assumptions in lateral code that chars are 1 byte)
mircea_popescu: phf can unicode be snipped off cleanly ?
phf: yes. in fact btcbase runs unicode-less instance
mircea_popescu: i'd personally much prefer unicode join the scrap heap with "pki", dns, ntp etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: depends what means 'cleanly'
asciilifeform: what happens when it gets dumped into the hopper anyway.
asciilifeform: which it will.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform same as what means cleanly in medicine : is it a fistula or a bump.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as long as "unicode was sent" neatly transforms into "we received a broken string of ascii" all is well.
phf: i've been mulling over that question with logs. fwiw, entire log can be kept in memory for analysis, annotation, whatever, 180mb as utf-8 byte arrays. with unicode strings takes up twice the memory on 16-bit cmucl, and ~~4 times on 32-bit sbcl. i'm not yet convinced that transcoding everything you get into string and then transcoding it back to a bytearray onto the wire is the best strategy
asciilifeform: incidentally, mircea_popescu would do well to remember that the bulk of the material worth reading accessible on the net is non-latin (specifically cyrillic!1111)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47800 @ 0.00057116 = 27.3014 BTC [-] {4}
phf: terry davis dat shit, only legitimate encoding is utf-8 :D
phf: err
phf: koi8-r
phf: freudian typo alright
asciilifeform: incidentally there can be a good argument for 16bit chars.
asciilifeform: in that utf8 makes strlen an O(N) operation
asciilifeform: which is profoundly retarded.
asciilifeform: and leads to inevitable shenanigans with buffer overflows
asciilifeform: e.g., i flip a bit and now ????????
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ^ what he said
mircea_popescu: also, i am not in the sliughtest against 16 bit chars.
mircea_popescu: the point is FIXED bitwidth alphabet, nothing else.
asciilifeform: 16 bit is enough to hold even kanji and other savagery.
mircea_popescu: alternatively, you can instruct your fucking display to do any rot-13 you prefer on glyphs and chars.
asciilifeform: i am also not opposed to ^
asciilifeform: was just about to say.
mircea_popescu: can have ascii-notation of cyrilic just fine
asciilifeform: 'polish' encode cyrillic, as gnarly diphthongs, etc in latin
asciilifeform: and then decode.
asciilifeform: i, like many ru folks, do this in the keyboard
asciilifeform: (the traditional ru kbd is virtually unknown among emigre folks, everybody uses 'translit' like the chinese do)
mircea_popescu: i would have been very firmly 8 bit in the old days
mircea_popescu: but today machines are 64 bit. for all i care your alphabet can be on 64 bit chars.
mircea_popescu: makes little sense, but it CAN be
mircea_popescu: (it seems perhaps a smart move to actually make it 64 bit - for one thing there will probablyt never be 128 bit machines.
asciilifeform operates a number of 32 and even 8 bit machines...
mircea_popescu: the current tech pretty much run its course, wetware or w/e comes next will prolly not do bits)
asciilifeform: did mircea_popescu catch the recent thread re: the bit-serial cpu ?
mircea_popescu: but in general speaking, the point stands anyway
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, im not sure what the benefit from the old machines perspective is for the char to be 16 rather than 64.
mircea_popescu: you'll still going to have to do some porting. just as long as it's not 52 or some other mit-esque idiocy, should really not be a big deal.
mircea_popescu: but the fucking concept of putting a turing complete machine in the bitstream/string mapping has got to fucking burn already. who the fuck even hatched this idiocy.
mircea_popescu: forget fits in head, this doesn't even fit in ass.
asciilifeform: nobody has turing machine there
asciilifeform: we suffer from quite the opposite.
asciilifeform: i.e. elaborately enumerated crapola.
mircea_popescu: if i take a buffer, split it up in words, and give you some and him some, and you convert them to strings and give them back, i must be able to reconsturct the original buffer without possibility of error.
mircea_popescu: fucking state in the string processor, are you kidding me ?
asciilifeform: work it through for me, when would this apply ?
mircea_popescu: how do you mean ?
mircea_popescu: it doesn't matter when it would apply. it turns out, through bitter experience, that c machines and especially the slaves that feed them can NOT live in a world where there's not strict, table-lookup-based, equivalency between words and chars.
mircea_popescu: creatiung the complete tree of all the ways this sad tactical truth has bitten us in practice, and then defending it against broad strategic discussions is beyond sane use of time or resources.
mircea_popescu: fact remains, whenever you break this bijection you get broken stacks and broken-er "communities" around em
asciilifeform: possibly i see where mircea_popescu is going.
mircea_popescu: in other news, perhaps the definitive depiction of exceeded old woman trying to cling to a delusion of control through formalism : http://archive.li/SzW0e/b36166b3370577c75796ec355295c8e5e6166a46.jpg (naomi klein at occupy wallstreet derpage)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and i say this with no prejudice to your fundamentally correct "stop thinking letters are numbers omfg what's wrong with you! are you greek ?! retarded ?!"
mircea_popescu: it'd work splendidly in lispnix, an alt-universe where mit still teaches computing instead of being "the premier science and technology institution in the world"
asciilifeform: i'm sorta coming to terms with the fact that the year is 800 again
asciilifeform: and we're in a monastery, trying to preserve a few tidbits, while orcs hammer on the gates.
asciilifeform: (who has seen the very colourful cartoon 'book of kells' ?)
mircea_popescu: can;'t say as i have
asciilifeform: recommended.
asciilifeform: it is a visual joy, rather than thematic
mircea_popescu: i put it on teh list.
jurov: ;;bc,blocks
gribble: {"blockcount":400005}
mircea_popescu: confirmed. cool huh. 40% of the way to the cool mil.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, this should be the millionium, best festival ever.
mircea_popescu: every time blockchain counts a new million blocks.
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asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: your ip leaks.
phf: pretty easy way of preventing it, authenticate at connect, not with /msg nickserv
asciilifeform: anybody has thoughts about the Dolev-Dwork-Naor asymmetric cipher ?
asciilifeform: (it appears to be 'the other cramershoup')
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415090 << had ukrs been offered free land there a century ago and ro jews offered refuge there 50 years ago, i would've could've should've. but fi didn't, to my knowledge, do either such thing. so here we are.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 02:05:03; asciilifeform: pete_dushenski ought to have opened up his rental business in fi !
asciilifeform: ddn - 1991.
pete_dushenski: ;;ud ddn
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=DDN | I woke up in a hot sweat due to a terrible DDN... It started with me being in a prison shower and dropping the soap. Did you get the new dvd of "White chicks and ...
phf: there's a great place for sauna, fi
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: Dolev-Dwork-Naor
asciilifeform: scroll up.
pete_dushenski: " Double Dick Nightmare - A nightmarish dream involving voluntary double penetration of massive cocks." << i don't care what you say, this is a much funnier ddn
assbot: Logged on 15-10-2015 18:03:14; ascii_field: 'Korsuissa kamina, / siellä pelataan nakkia, raminaa, / on meillä Fritzit ja Maxit / ja Petropamaxit, juu!' (tm) (r) (1941)
pete_dushenski: blockchain millenium should be sometime in 2026. we'll all be old men by then!
asciilifeform: some are old men now.
pete_dushenski: today, some, tomorrow, all.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415278 << haha family friend is lead counsel for wb asia pacific, based out of hk. i actually crashed at his place last time i was in town.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 13:24:12; assbot: Warner Bros. sues “HD Fury” over boxes that can copy 4k video | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAMj6C )
asciilifeform: was he 'only following orderz' ?
asciilifeform: and 'has no idea' what comes out of the showerheadz?
phf: (it's zyklon b, for all those like myself who took a while)
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: he's from an older generation than we are, knows what he's doing. believes in legitimacy of copyrasta wholly afaik. can't be far from retirement either, and it's awfully hard to imagine anyone bothering to hang him for his crimes.
pete_dushenski: so he was 'right place right time'
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415265 << nonsense. sistine chapel qualifies as a canvas and it's what 41x13m ?
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 13:21:34; mircea_popescu: seriously, if you can't paint a canvas within 10x10, or if you can't tell your story in 700mb, you've got other problems than painting or making movies.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the perfect sort for hanging
asciilifeform: (truly believes, etc.)
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415189 << inquiring minds would like to know what you'd have done with her if you caught her !
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 07:22:41; ben_vulpes: aww i missed the cascadian-hunting ok cupid slut!
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: perfect in the sense of pleads guilty though admits no wrongdoing, sure.
pete_dushenski: dies with honour intact, to whatever degree loser can
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415159 << ok fess up! who put the spy camera in my kitchen?!
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 03:58:08; mircea_popescu: and in even more other news, http://49.media.tumblr.com/173588322d445d2b59ce0572a36c6298/tumblr_nhqf0lTVs81sfkfqio1_500.gif
asciilifeform: it is on just such folk that the reich still stands.
pete_dushenski: that which can only come from a lifetime of indoctrination via public education and travel only to designated tourist zoos
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415110 << ok that's just plain crafty. tip o' the cap.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 02:36:48; asciilifeform: 'Like other armies the Germans emplaced booby traps to catch unwary souvenir-hunters, but they also used them to cause casualties among Allied small-unit leaders by locating them in possible command post and observation post sites. One example of this was to conceal a booby trap behind a framed picture left hanging crooked on an interior wall of a house: the Germans reasoned that only an officer would
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415511 << this is not my experience with doctrinaire copyrasts.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 18:26:18; pete_dushenski: that which can only come from a lifetime of indoctrination via public education and travel only to designated tourist zoos
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: what was your experience ?
asciilifeform: no amount of travel or whatnot can cure a man who experienced western civilization in 1960, and believes that we can bring back the airplanes by cargoculting to what he perceives as the rules of the era.
asciilifeform: likewise, there is the fundamental affliction of the old.
pete_dushenski: o ? and just how well travelled are these 1960ists that you can say 'no amount' will suffice ?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: where would you send them to travel ?
pete_dushenski: i wouldn't send them anywhere. it's not for me to lead their lives. but a couple of years in 2nd-tier city in 80s ru wouldn't have hurt.
asciilifeform: time travel is on the table now ?!
pete_dushenski: can't teach old dog new tricks. no sense trying to persuade 60yo that life was wasted in the pursuit of the evil and the wrong.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 13:24:16; asciilifeform: this always melted my brain.
asciilifeform: it is not even necessarily clear, that it was.
pete_dushenski: ackman just watches charts and reads emails. so, like argentine, 300dpi is 'wasted'
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: idk about you, but i edit text on display.
phf: american experience in su was highly mediated. i've had a chance to meet a handful of these "spent some time in su in the 80s" types, and at best their conclusion is "them russkies are no worse then us". not like they would be allowed to spend their leasure time in the company of my grandfather and his friends, etc.
phf: their whole experience of su is through intourist propotainment and politruk control. who's going to let an american nobody in a company of the valuable products of soviet system. it's a needless risk. at best you get invited to some aparatchik family dinner and get to playbelieve "i was even friends with a russian family!"
pete_dushenski: phf: that's very much why i specified '2nd-tier' ru city, though i suppose this was based on the presumption that most of the mediation was happening in larger urban centres, which i suppose statistically it must have been, but whether that made it easier or harder to break mediated mold in smaller centres isn't thereby granted as being in any way obvious, admittedly.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: editing text is 99% of what i do as well
asciilifeform: phf has it.
asciilifeform: i met these tourists, here.
asciilifeform: mega-riot.
phf: you don't seem to grok how "mediated" works in this case, you or your tour is assigned a dedicated kgb handler and a politruk. if you're not part of tour, then you are assigned those. personally. sop for any sort of interaction with outsiders. politruk is ~personally responsible~ for you not doing anything dodgy. your level of artificial integration depends on how important you are and how experienced your handlers are at running this
phf: particular show.
asciilifeform: and 'dodgy' can include things pete_dushenski wouldn't think of.
pete_dushenski: phf: you're right, that's far more 'mediated' than i'd understood to be the case previously.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu likes to remember the jeans
asciilifeform: so ru folk traded their sovereignty for jeans.
asciilifeform: it is not clear to me that this was a smart thing.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski, phf: even today, a 'human' visiting orc lands is 'mediated', but largely by his own head
asciilifeform: but just as effectivelyt
asciilifeform: (he can't speak the language, so he will only end up in designated zoos, etc.)
phf: heh actually some boomer at russian cultural center was once telling me of his adventures, he proudly told me that him and his wife had a friend in russia and it was even! a kgb guy. the implication is that he was so cool, he even got to meet a bonafide kgb, befriend him and that was his best friend. that's your handler, you dumbass.
phf: oh man, plenty of these people at russian cultural center in DC, can have a little study roster
asciilifeform: phf: i think they're mostly old/dead now
asciilifeform: but perhaps not all.
asciilifeform: i ran into a few when i went to 'rur' at the czech embassy.
phf: yeah, probably on the way out. i was there last about 8 years ago
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> every time blockchain counts a new million blocks. << sounds good!
shinohai: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 422.89, vol: 5591.59211870 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 423.334, vol: 5796.17642 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 424.28, vol: 13637.03192603 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 405.89, vol: 1.52443611 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 428.92479, vol: 44790.73500000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 421.01601, vol: 780.19886255 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 421.809972, vol: 40.04071369 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
shinohai: ;;more
gribble: 426.99973258
shinohai: srsly gribble? You couldn't have just parsed that in a single statement?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49900 @ 0.00056955 = 28.4205 BTC [-] {4}
danielpbarron: he never does; the final number is always after the ;;more
danielpbarron: funny thing, the number is about as long as the (1 more message)
trinque: max length on IRC messages.
danielpbarron: !s 1 more message
assbot: 851 results for '1 more message' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=1+more+message
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50600 @ 0.00056862 = 28.7722 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: (1 more message) is 16 char, while 426.99973258 is even less, 12.
trinque: heh, good point
assbot: Cramer-Shoup ... ( http://bit.ly/1p9oZ4I )
assbot: One Zimbabwean Shares Thirty Shocking Things He's Learned About America ... ( http://bit.ly/1p9pN9Q )
pete_dushenski: "He said: "Some of the people will be too old or too weak to carry the food to their cars so you will have to carry the food for them". What shocked me was that these people were being given food hampers because they were poor but they drove cars. Some of them had very nice cars too. In Zimbabwe, poor people don't have cars."
pete_dushenski: "Now, in my first week in the states, something got trapped in the earphone jack of my laptop so I went to an Apple store to see if they can fix it. The genius there told me that he would need to first check it in and that I would only be able to come back and pick it up after four working days. I knew there were other computers in line before me and I really didn't think I could survive four days without a laptop an
pete_dushenski: as also used to the methods we use in Zimbabwe when we get in these situations, so I said to him: " Come on Sir, what if I give you something? Will that speed up the process?" I'm sure he could tell from from my accent where I'm from so he looked me in the eye, lowered his voice and said to me softly : "Sir, you have just offered me a bribe. We don't do that around here."
pete_dushenski: bwahaha why doesn't money work in usistan ? it works everywhere else ! reserve currency status seems to have broken the currency's use and meaning.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46979 @ 0.00057872 = 27.1877 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: White Supremacists Mobilize For Donald Trump ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oy67RH )
pete_dushenski: "In Minnesota and Vermont, a white supremacist super PAC called the American National Super PAC has begun circulating a robocall in support of Trump. "The white race is dying out in America and Europe because we are afraid to be called 'racist,' says William Johnson, the leader of the white nationalist American Freedom Party. He goes on to bemoan "gradual genocide against the white race," and how few "schools anymore
pete_dushenski: beautiful white children as the majority." He signs off by telling recipients, "Don’t vote for a Cuban. Vote for Donald Trump." "
assbot: Coinbase is not a wallet — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oy74cJ )
assbot: The Soup Nazi - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1S4kl3n )
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: LZOZLZO
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 106079 @ 0.0005717 = 60.6454 BTC [-] {4}
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 21.55000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Donald Trump gets Republican Nomination - http://bitbet.us/bet/1206/donald-trump-gets-republican-nomination/#b119
assbot: BitBet - Donald Trump gets Republican Nomination :: 85.12 B (51%) on Yes, 83.19 B (49%) on No | closing in 1 month 2 weeks | weight: 22`962 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1KAXLHg )
asciilifeform: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 424.52, Best ask: 424.54, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 424.78, 24 hour volume: 13556.26534589, 24 hour low: 419.5, 24 hour high: 430.0, 24 hour vwap: None
danielpbarron: i saw that bet coming
asciilifeform: ;;calc 21.55 * 424.52
gribble: 9148.406
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: hows that
pete_dushenski: he made it ?
danielpbarron: was considering betting against myself but decided against it because i figured if i was right, there would be a massive bet to follow anyway and it would just knock my percent down anyway; might as well stick with my first bet and hope a miracle happens
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6073 @ 0.00056688 = 3.4427 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: anyone have any experience with displayport to dvi adapters for ultra-high-res (eg. 4k) monitors ?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: iirc if you insist on dvi on 4k you're stuck with 30hz.
asciilifeform: where did you even get a 4k display that has no displayport jack ?
pete_dushenski: other way around. computer has no displayport jack. monitor has.
pete_dushenski: goddam these old computers and their archaic ports eh
asciilifeform: what makes you think the box will put out 4k ?
shinohai: did isis make good on their threat to knock twitter offline?
pete_dushenski: ;;isitdown twitter.com
gribble: twitter.com is up
danielpbarron: http://www.geekwire.com/2016/domain-registration-company-rightside-tells-employees-that-w2-forms-were-stolen-in-phishing-attack/ >> The forms included name, home address, Social Security Number and 2015 income. [..] the company is encouraging them to alert the IRS to the theft of their W2s and the potential for the filing of fraudulent tax returns.
assbot: Domain registration company Rightside tells employees that W2 forms were stolen in phishing attack - GeekWire ... ( http://bit.ly/1OynlOV )
ben_vulpes: w2's are a crime
ben_vulpes: slow motion statal rape
ben_vulpes: "tell us how much you diddled each other so that we may distribute other diddling equitably"
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes:
asciilifeform: ;;later tell phf please consider sharing your clang build script
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ^ or anybody else.
ben_vulpes: ya plz
ben_vulpes: phf ^^]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> other than to help sink the enemy. << Mega reason
mod6: thanks to trinque, this exists now: http://deedbot.org/build-bitcoind-V99995.sh
thestringpuller: LOL. Blythe Masters is speaking at the consensus coindesk thing?
thestringpuller: "[Blockchain] is the technology beneath the bitcoin cryptography, but it is not bitcoin."
shinohai: yup. Brian Armstrong will be there too.
thestringpuller: These people are too stupid to be leading armies.
mod6: And so they shant.
thestringpuller: Consensus 2016: Making Bitcoin Great Again!
assbot: Prosecutors halt vast, likely illegal DEA wiretap operation ... ( http://bit.ly/21v02i3 )
mod6: so, with tinyscheme, there is no 'read-line' -- which we sort of talked about; having to write a bunch of our own procedures.
mod6: and since i have no clue "what lispers typically do", I'll ask: I usually read files one line at a time and then do things accordingly, is this a typical lisp convention? Or do most just read one word at a time and then do stuff?
asciilifeform: mod6: normally one char at a time
mod6: ah, i see.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://mm0hai.net/blog/2015/07/14/Dont-use-the-keyservers.html << fountain of lulz
assbot: Don't use the PGP Keyservers ... ( http://bit.ly/21v1yRt )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mod6: in this case, 'read-char'
mod6: ok
assbot: Our company has been a victim of RANSOMWARE please help : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1pa5NnH )
asciilifeform: how come nobody ever writes, 'our company was a victim of microshit' ??
asciilifeform: or better yet, 'our company was a victim of my idiot microshit-buying self'
shinohai: > . <
pete_dushenski: stockholm syndrome.
pete_dushenski: old hostage taker is familiar, friendly, and has a kind face
asciilifeform: the fucktards built their 'consensual reality' where 'computer == winblowz' ?? fine. let computer also == paying some nigerian derp every week to decrypt the disk.
asciilifeform: i predict that usg will come out with a 'doomed but lulzy' taintatron thing for ransom
asciilifeform: 'register your ransom here, we will xxxxx !'
asciilifeform: nothing will come of it except that some unfortunate usaschwitz inmates will be picked up for 'taking in evil coin'
pete_dushenski: this is already sop for stolen bicycles 'tracked' by local poliezi.
pete_dushenski: there's supposedly a shake down of the odd pawn broker, which can't be more than appropriation of a bicycle for the cop's children, but it's mostly just a list of names of bitches who can't deal with their own problems.
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 3.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Donald Trump gets Republican Nomination - http://bitbet.us/bet/1206/donald-trump-gets-republican-nomination/#b120
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10950 @ 0.00056688 = 6.2073 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00056688 = 2.5793 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51150 @ 0.00057128 = 29.221 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 18:07:26; asciilifeform: anybody has thoughts about the Dolev-Dwork-Naor asymmetric cipher ?
mircea_popescu: dude wtf am, i reading.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck cares what "river macleod" thinks on any topic,
mircea_popescu: including who gets to use his asshole when and how.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00056688 = 2.2675 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Don't forget, for what purpose.
mircea_popescu: i'd rather read kitsch, naomi klein's autobiography by naomi klein
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415499 << fellow did it because pope told him to and wouldn't pay otherwise.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 18:21:37; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415265 << nonsense. sistine chapel qualifies as a canvas and it's what 41x13m ?
mircea_popescu: and no, murals are not canvas
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415517 << 60 in the us tho. 60 in europe was a pretty miserable affair.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 18:29:41; asciilifeform: no amount of travel or whatnot can cure a man who experienced western civilization in 1960, and believes that we can bring back the airplanes by cargoculting to what he perceives as the rules of the era.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise the point is quite sound.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415531 << which is why it only counts if you fuck local.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 18:40:53; phf: their whole experience of su is through intourist propotainment and politruk control. who's going to let an american nobody in a company of the valuable products of soviet system. it's a needless risk. at best you get invited to some aparatchik family dinner and get to playbelieve "i was even friends with a russian family!"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415543 << it was very smart, in that their sovereignity was deeply retarded.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 18:46:39; asciilifeform: it is not clear to me that this was a smart thing.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 18:54:07; phf: heh actually some boomer at russian cultural center was once telling me of his adventures, he proudly told me that him and his wife had a friend in russia and it was even! a kgb guy. the implication is that he was so cool, he even got to meet a bonafide kgb, befriend him and that was his best friend. that's your handler, you dumbass.
mircea_popescu: kinda like "i'm so cool i get my salary directly on my credit card, no need to use cash"
asciilifeform: the other thing about the 60 y.o. is that he might not feel ready to starve yet
asciilifeform: see, e.g., harlan ellison
mircea_popescu: generally, old people have relatively little to live for. this shows.
asciilifeform: today he is better known as an ardent copyrast, than a writer.
mircea_popescu: miserable example. he never wrote anthing wort ha shit.
mircea_popescu: born a hustler, wil ldie a hustler.
asciilifeform: he was an interesting case of 'up and coming'-ism
mircea_popescu: did not sell aluminum siding 50 years ago by sheer accident.
asciilifeform: was ever eternally 'about to write the next great xxxx' according to the lit-mafia of his time
asciilifeform: ~ought to~ have sold aluminum, it cried for him for 50 years.
mircea_popescu: harlan ellison is one bra size away from having been anais nin.
mircea_popescu: one and a half from having been yoko ono.
mircea_popescu: and what's her face, the trailer trash whore that was sharing needles with the nirvana kid ?
mircea_popescu: courtney something
BingoBoingo: In other new the Tesla Model X is too obeast to legally traverse the Brooklyn Bridge which has a 3 ton weight limit
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> courtney something << Courtney Love, mother of Francis Bean
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo these fucking idiots, by now the car is 90% battery... how to get 5% extra distance ? make it 95% battery. doesn't that mean double the size ? YES IT DOES
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-02-2016#1415667 << it appears to have been the first (and to date, only other in public) system that is immune to chosen-ciphertext crapolade
assbot: Logged on 26-02-2016 01:05:18; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415473 < notrly.
mircea_popescu: doesn't that mean the batteries will have to power 6x as much car as gasoline ?
asciilifeform: it and c-s.
mircea_popescu: THIS IS GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im not familair with much research re it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is precious little anything re: anything.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Not only that, is "enviro-SUV" crossover weighing more than actual Truck-SUV
asciilifeform: the field is as dead as anything one might care to think of.
asciilifeform: in more than a month of active combing, i was not able to dredge up so much as ONE adult implementation of c-s.
asciilifeform: anywhere.
mircea_popescu: fucking ridiculous. on both lines.
asciilifeform: there is literally nothing to test against, to compare with, etc.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415632 << they're still running with yesterday's used condoms ?
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 22:58:52; thestringpuller: "[Blockchain] is the technology beneath the bitcoin cryptography, but it is not bitcoin."
mircea_popescu: you already got fucked with those buey! bring new ones!
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo et al: tesla doesn't need to actually work, in the strict sense, it is specifically targeted at moneyed chumps
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 23:37:31; asciilifeform: how come nobody ever writes, 'our company was a victim of microshit' ??
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415656 << i'm so 100% with this you couldn't believe.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 23:42:27; asciilifeform: the fucktards built their 'consensual reality' where 'computer == winblowz' ?? fine. let computer also == paying some nigerian derp every week to decrypt the disk.
mircea_popescu: actually, maybe s.nsa should release some basic code so every script kiddy with enough money to buy an usb can evil maid the shit out of any office space he can get into.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is one of the reasons why i see malware artists as doing godly work, and wish to help them
mircea_popescu: make life for janitors fun again.
asciilifeform: win64 needs a good public polymorphic lib, for instance.
mircea_popescu: "here baby, replace this line with your own address, plug into all the computers you can find"
danielpbarron: this place is starting to sound like project mayhem
mircea_popescu: unavoidable. bitches acting like they're independent and shit, time to eat it.
mircea_popescu: as you can tell, that bfl thing utterly got my fucking goat.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron whassat ?
danielpbarron: the first rule of project mayhem is you do not ask questions!
danielpbarron: heh, it's from fight club
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: reference to c. palahniuk's b00k 'fight club'
mircea_popescu: the principle nevertheless rules supreme. you wanna act like your classic coin / windows system / us government / bla bla got what it takes, fine then. we shall meet in the field and there's no quarter given.\
mircea_popescu: go fucking settle with bfl motherfucking schmucks on a stick already.
asciilifeform: the bfl thing seemed to me like a mega-unsurprise
asciilifeform: from the pirate case.
asciilifeform: or, as described in mircea_popescu's mega-article, 'A convicted felon and general low life ran a Ponzi scheme. Various soi-dissant US authorities were notified in private to proceed with prosecution, capture the felon and deliver him to justice, as well as publicly months before the scheme's collapse, but instead chose to delay taking any action whatsoever until a year afterwards, in spite of the felon in question being a US r
asciilifeform: esident throughout, in the vain hopes that such shenanigans may destroy our fledging republic.'
mircea_popescu: yeah well fuck them.
mircea_popescu: what, there's options now ? what the fuck is this.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: For the record, these are the passenger vehicles which compete with Tesla Model X for Obesity. Many of them hit the same over moneyed chump market. http://www.thedrive.com/article/1720/9-cars-that-legally-cant-cross-the-brooklyn-bridge
assbot: 8 Cars That Legally Can’t Cross the Brooklyn Bridge - The Drive ... ( http://bit.ly/1WMEGtd )
shinohai: ;;blocks
gribble: 400060
mthreat: mircea_popescu: I saw this in buenos aires and thought you had bought a billboard for fun: http://i.imgur.com/2kYXASl.jpg
danielpbarron: i'm watching this republican debate cheering on BingoBoingo's guy -- BitBet : making politics fun!
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: lol
ben_vulpes: mthreat: buttman! lol
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: At this point I'm set to make money on either a Rubio or Cruz win.
danielpbarron: enough even to make up for my Paul loss
asciilifeform: buttman.com.ar ??
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19199 @ 0.00056837 = 10.9121 BTC [+]
mthreat: it turns out mircea has written about buttman before.
mthreat: !s buttman
assbot: 3 results for 'buttman' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=buttman
mircea_popescu: mthreat lol. that's the sex shop on corrientes 2ksomething
mircea_popescu: that ALSO does not have a lacquered red leather ball gag
mircea_popescu: mthreat> it turns out mircea has written about buttman before. << trilema contains all things!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14711 @ 0.00056837 = 8.3613 BTC [+]
deedbot-: [Qntra] US Farmers Shift To Complete Loss Control Mode As Corn Belt Keeps Fraying - http://qntra.net/2016/02/us-farmers-shift-to-complete-loss-control-mode-as-corn-belt-keeps-fraying/
mats: http://log.b-a.link/?date=26-02-2016#1415729 << this looks like fun. would give me a reason to put my 'facedancer' board to use, fuzz some signed windows drivers
assbot: Logged on 26-02-2016 01:39:07; mircea_popescu: actually, maybe s.nsa should release some basic code so every script kiddy with enough money to buy an usb can evil maid the shit out of any office space he can get into.
mircea_popescu: not to discourage creativity, but considering what we're discussing here, something absolutely ridiculous would problably work just fine. gif/tiff/whatever exploit relying on windows computer autoplays sticks, for instance.
mircea_popescu: iirc the gfx were still full of holes, today as in 2005.
mircea_popescu: the fonts are prolly also full of holes, and who knows what else even
mats: tons of fonts bugs in the wild, yes
danielpbarron: !up Guest86209
danielpbarron: Guest86209, you've met gmaxwell and Luke-Jr ?
BingoBoingo: You couldn't go wrong with something that targets all 3 to 4 generations of stuxnet hole
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-02-2016#1415773 << megafamous, uncle al had an essay re: it.
assbot: Logged on 26-02-2016 03:13:13; mircea_popescu: in random weird from canada news, http://www.philo5.com/Feminisme-Masculisme/890612%20Lettre%20de%20Marc%20Lepine.htm
asciilifeform: ~the~ canadian p0stal.
asciilifeform: for piglet!!111
BingoBoingo: Mortadella!!!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seems kinda bizarre. i still don't get what exactly an assortment of old prunes clining on to their delusions of feminity did to him.
mircea_popescu: this is what always gets me about these "i was hurt by feminism" fellows : nigga, say wut ?! the club of bingo ladies who still like to wear skirts bothered you ?! da fuck were you doing at the bingo parlour ?!
asciilifeform: lepine wanted 'me tooo'
mircea_popescu: me too what ?
asciilifeform: was none too happy with the 'reich for women' thing
mircea_popescu: wassat ?
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asciilifeform: recall the train seats?
mircea_popescu: and ~feminists~ did that ?!
asciilifeform: hey nobody said the fella was bright.
mircea_popescu: lemme guess, and meninists did the 90s porn revolution ? not digicams ?
mircea_popescu: actually yeah, the psychs iirc said he was bright.
asciilifeform: perhaps compared to the available sample of cattle, sure.
mircea_popescu: i guess. the problem still stands tho. all these dudes "hurt by feminism" are like the wolf complaining spam cans broke his teeth.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck were you doing eating cans!
asciilifeform: the answer is - being a wolf with nothing but spam can.
asciilifeform: what else.
mircea_popescu: but this is absurd. for one thing the twain shall never meet.
mircea_popescu: where does a wolf even fucking encounter a can
asciilifeform: in demented zoo, where else.
mircea_popescu: so your idea is that this 20something mousy french guy had a thing for older women, they kept rejecting him
mircea_popescu: so he decided to shoot a bunch of polytechnic students ?
asciilifeform: iirc they were 'diversity admits'.
mircea_popescu: the very notion, he hates feminists so he shoots adolescents. i suppose if he hated policeman he'd have shot plumbers.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, 5-10 in 50-60 is about what females traditionally do at polytechnic.
mircea_popescu: was same in 50s, was same in 80s, ro, ru, fr, wherever.
asciilifeform: postal folks tend to shoot he closest approximation they can get to.
mircea_popescu: so he couldn't get to nursing home ?
mircea_popescu: shoot a bunch of women at jewish home, about 54098564096056% more feminist per bullet.
asciilifeform: where are you even getting the older thing
mircea_popescu: what do you mean ?
asciilifeform: nobody gives a fuck re old women
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 14:41:07; assbot: Terry Gilliam's Movie Brazil - Plumbers' Nasty End - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1OjXTyV )
mircea_popescu: so then what is all this talking of feminists as if one gives a shit ?
asciilifeform: it is a boojum in the mind of specific certain people, and it is invariably a reasonably young chick
asciilifeform: of the 'недавашка' (how do english that??) flavour.
mircea_popescu: yeah well. meanwhile at reality ranch, all contact sports have this phenomena, where people age out of it. it's natural. but they don't WANT out of it, because they fucking liked it. so they become radio commentators, referees, whatever they can find.
mircea_popescu: occasionally they get going some effort to reform this or that about the sport in question
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mircea_popescu: THAT is your feminists. who the fuck cares, really.
mircea_popescu: so talk show hosts don't like how the ball's being swung ?
asciilifeform: anyway the mega-question is, who ought he have shot?
asciilifeform: that he could get to.
mircea_popescu: self-described feminist is, definitionally, old-gendered person that hasn't yet come to terms with it, still sees self as female.
mircea_popescu: in what sense it'd be the case is anyone's guess, but whatever.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if he ACTUALLY hated feminists, he seriouslty should have light up a jewish old folks home.
mircea_popescu: either "gender" also, da fuck difference does it make by then.
asciilifeform: he wanted to plug ~powerful~
asciilifeform: not alzheimers, wtf
mircea_popescu: ahahahaha so he shot some students ?
mircea_popescu: come on. wtf power, in what world are students anything but the subway chewinggum on people's soles.
asciilifeform: as breivik, later
asciilifeform: 'make the next batch think' maybe it was, in his head..
mircea_popescu: i suppose...
mircea_popescu: think what, "don't be a feminist or you might get plugged" ?
mircea_popescu: seems deeply uninformed as to how biological processes with a cognitive component work in humans.
mircea_popescu: every adolescent slut promises herself she'll be anything but her mother,
mircea_popescu: every 40something ex-adolescent slut is EXACTLY her mother.
asciilifeform: this is as far as i'm able to follow the thought process before it ceases to make sense.
mircea_popescu: not like what she resolves to do or not do in one phase has any fucking bearing on the next.
asciilifeform: no shit
mircea_popescu: for that matter, every insecure, death-fearing derp promises himself he'll do himself in before he's too decreipt
mircea_popescu: every decrepit ex-insecure derp, still death-fearing, happily drools on the side of hte ouch
asciilifeform: this too is malnutrition!
asciilifeform: Insufficient millimorts.
asciilifeform: in modern 'diet'.
mircea_popescu: possibly.
mircea_popescu: anyway. no sane girl / young woman ever becomes a feminist because she WANTS to become a feminist. they spend more on creams than you spend on hardware.
mircea_popescu: they just fucking age into it, and it doesn't ask them./
asciilifeform: explain the 20yo ones then.
mircea_popescu: the 20yo ones whats
asciilifeform: feminists.
asciilifeform: and they are in every other liberasty also.
mircea_popescu: maybe we don't share a definition. feminist = inept old prune with nothing better to do than drone on about things nobody gives a shit about.
asciilifeform: 'free paaaalestine!!1'
mircea_popescu: what 20 yo feminist ? show me one.
mircea_popescu: it'll be either a chick nobody could conceivably want for any purpose, so basically an old prune before her time,
asciilifeform: visit usa ccollege campus. any of'em.
mircea_popescu: or else a total coy princess fucking with people's nerves. which - is fine and good, but it's not in any sense a feminist
mircea_popescu: at least not more than the chick claiming lesbianism to escape inept advances is actually gay.
asciilifeform has nfi, and gotta go swap a disk, bbl
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and i'd see what i and anyone else always and forever sees on college campuses. a buncha dizzy cows of either gender. what!
mircea_popescu: the dudes are programmers about as much as the chicks are feminists.
mircea_popescu: and all of them secret agents, astronauts, power rangers and teenage neutered minja turtles or w/e it was.
mircea_popescu: i forget.
assbot: Brazil - 2 - Terror at Lunch.avi - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oz5tn2 )
mircea_popescu: these are rich tho
mircea_popescu: feminists are ~what lawyers used to be in the gilt age
mircea_popescu: about as poor as church mice, the dumb runts in the litter.
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