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assbot: Are Mexican Men Only Interested in Having Sex with White Women? - The Unz Review ... ( http://bit.ly/1mj4JMm )
assbot: Logged on 16-11-2015 21:44:59; pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: what about mexicans ?
asciilifeform: because i sure as fuck ain't pressing a hundred buttons
mircea_popescu: dude, just make nosuchlabs.com/pastes/ and pipe to there
mircea_popescu: what 100 buttons ?
mircea_popescu: so you want him to make you a login because you don't want to make your own login
mircea_popescu: and you want his login to not be a login
mircea_popescu: because wtf.
asciilifeform: public toilet.
mircea_popescu: so host a public toilet then
asciilifeform: i might, if nobody else does.
mircea_popescu: da fuck namby bs is this.
asciilifeform wasn't trying to make the point that this item is direly necessary, but that phf's scheme is specifically the correct answer
mircea_popescu: it is also specifically what we already have.
asciilifeform: because it doesn't multiply the work i have to do 100x !!!
asciilifeform: we don't have it
asciilifeform: unless mircea_popescu wrote it and told everyone but me
mircea_popescu: again. 1. put item wherever you want ; 2. put link in here ; 3. assbot creates the archival link ; 4. if anyone clicks it, it's permadired. if not, not.
ben_vulpes: for as long as archive.is continues to be a thing.
asciilifeform: the 'put wherever you want' IS A HUNDRED KEYPRESS OPERATION
mircea_popescu: this is no different from "for as long as ben_vulpes' thing continues to be a thing", is it ? you're gonna commit your life to dpaste ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform only because you want a certain standard. and iuf you do, it will be whether you host it or he hosts it.
mircea_popescu: and if you don't, it's not, for him or for you.
mircea_popescu: why do you imagine other people eating involves less chewing than you eating ?
asciilifeform: what the fuck is so hard to understand about wanting a sane version of dpaste ?
mircea_popescu: again : if you want logins, it'll take logins.
asciilifeform: specifically addressing points 1-4 but otherwise identical.
asciilifeform: no logins. just garbage collected.
mircea_popescu: if you want no-logins, you can make an anon ftp just as well
asciilifeform: ftp doesn't pipe
mircea_popescu shrugs. this is nonsense
mircea_popescu: wtf ftp doesn't pipe.
asciilifeform: can't ./foo.pl | ftp ...
mircea_popescu: so fix your box then.
asciilifeform: this is esp. lulzy in light of earlier thread where mircea_popescu raged at the notion of having to use a tool to read a contract
asciilifeform: instead of naked telex
mircea_popescu: you want to read the ftp ?
asciilifeform: i want to ./foo | curl blah
asciilifeform: specificall.
mircea_popescu: ok so what's the problem ?
asciilifeform: no specific problem. phf wrote down the solution.
mircea_popescu: put a fucking form on nosuchlabs.com/pastes/ and curl-post to it.
asciilifeform: (all that remains is for anybody to give a fuck and write proggy. i'm presently occupied.)
mircea_popescu: <phf> paste text to b-a-paste, manually post url to log, unless post is in the logs, it's auto expired after n hours << the. entirety. of. this. aready. exists.
mircea_popescu: jesus god.
asciilifeform: the saving part (archive.is)
asciilifeform: the pastebinatron that doesn't mutilate line endings does not presently exist
asciilifeform: (i'm not even certain that this is possible given browser)
mircea_popescu: i gotta try this now.
assbot: dpaste: 3EK5TZH ... ( http://bit.ly/1mj5mWl )
asciilifeform: 00000000 66 69 72 73 74 20 6c 69 6e 65 0d 0a 73 65 63 6f |first line..seco|
asciilifeform: 00000010 6e 64 20 6c 69 6e 65 0d 0a 74 68 69 72 64 20 6c |nd line..third l|
asciilifeform: 00000020 69 6e 65 |ine|
asciilifeform: 0d 0a motherfuckerz
mircea_popescu: % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
mircea_popescu: Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
mircea_popescu: 0 35 0 35 0 0 92 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 179
mircea_popescu: 0000000 6966 7372 2074 696c 656e 0a0d 6573 6f63
mircea_popescu: 0000010 646e 6c20 6e69 0d65 740a 6968 6472 6c20
mircea_popescu: 0000020 6e69 0065
mircea_popescu: fix your box.
asciilifeform: 0a0d << i'll fix mine when you discover how to fix yours ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54750 @ 0.00051015 = 27.9307 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: or anybody's...
asciilifeform: use hexdump -C
mircea_popescu: 740a 6968
mircea_popescu: first one's 0d0a. 2nd one's 0a.
mircea_popescu: which is what i put in there. /r/n ; /n
asciilifeform: [snipped crud]
asciilifeform: 00000000 66 69 72 73 74 20 6c 69 6e 65 0d 0a 73 65 63 6f |first line..seco|
asciilifeform: 00000010 6e 64 20 6c 69 6e 65 0d 0a 74 68 69 72 64 20 6c |nd line..third l|
asciilifeform: 00000020 69 6e 65 |ine|
phf: nah, your hex dump is doing byte order rearrangement
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: post your hexdump -C plz
mircea_popescu: da fuck is this shit ?!
mircea_popescu: hexdump -C is like yours.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you're dumping in native-endian word
asciilifeform: so you got mangled
mircea_popescu: how the everloving fuck am i getting different byte counts
phf: 0d65 740a are the relevant bits
mircea_popescu: o brother
mircea_popescu: dude does this shit even work ?
ben_vulpes: ahuehuaheauhuaehu
asciilifeform: hexdump most certainly worx.
asciilifeform lives and dies by it
asciilifeform: -C presents bytez in actual arithmetical order (0..N)
mircea_popescu: mk, this requires more experiments.
ben_vulpes: i couldn't rule out curl hosing my experiments, mircea_popescu
ben_vulpes: have fun
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: y'know, let's telnet
mircea_popescu: i didn't mean by me.
ben_vulpes: yes asciilifeform telnet let's go
mircea_popescu: i've had it. two hexdumps. for the love of chrissakes.
ben_vulpes: for what its worth emacs' eww was the most reliable tool for finding wacky line endings
ben_vulpes: which SHOULD NOT BE THE CASE omg
mircea_popescu: 6e69 0065 vs 69 6e 65 [00]
mircea_popescu: nuts already.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: use -C always
asciilifeform: unless you are doing something exotic
mircea_popescu: "does this shit even work" was, for the record, a very general inquiry.
mircea_popescu: the answer is reallynot.
ben_vulpes: and in the general case, no.
mircea_popescu: fancy that it'd split one word but not the other, also. what a spicy adventure.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i still dunno how you figure someone ELSE is going to implement this thing for you, but anyway.
asciilifeform: nah i don't expect anybody to implement it.
asciilifeform: i may or may not get around to it.
mircea_popescu: for one thing it doesn't even seem it can be over web. it'll have to be actual files sftp'd or something.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nobody split your word!
asciilifeform: you're seeing word boundaries
asciilifeform: as in machine word
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's whatg i mean.
asciilifeform: use -C plox
mircea_popescu: it just so happened that the boundary split the 0a from the 0d in the 2nd case but not in the first, so as to appear matching what i put in there.
mircea_popescu: this was one of 4 possible rolls of that dice.
asciilifeform: put more - or fewer - letters, you'll see different split
mircea_popescu: of course.
asciilifeform: it is artifact of your byte count
mircea_popescu: still, 1:4 odds for it to fall this way.
asciilifeform: nothing to do with what happened over the net. it is dirt on your lens.
mircea_popescu: i know this!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18183 @ 0.00050996 = 9.2726 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: curl http://dpaste.com/2116EDR.txt | hexdump for instance does it the other way.
phf: (drakma:http-request (concatenate 'string (cdr (assoc :location (nth-value 2 (drakma:http-request "http://dpaste.com/api/v2/" :method :post :parameters `(("content" . ,(concatenate 'string "foo" '(#\Newline) "bar"))))))) ".txt") :force-binary t)
phf: #(66 6F 6F A 62 61 72)
phf: so it's the posting tool's problem
asciilifeform: url plz ?
asciilifeform: (of the posted payload)
mircea_popescu: lo and behold.
mircea_popescu: i get what he gets.
asciilifeform: 00000000 66 6f 6f 0a 62 61 72 |foo.bar|
mircea_popescu: dude, did phf just fix our boxen ?
asciilifeform: posted without browser
mircea_popescu: i posted with curl
asciilifeform: curl apparently also retarded
mircea_popescu: !rated phf
assbot: You rated user phf on 24-Jun-2015, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Well read gent in search of a handler. Bureaucrats and mustachioed young ladies apply within..
mircea_popescu: !rate phf 2 Fixed our boxen!
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/c07a32caa47b77e8
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.phf.2:50fd9856def1d11892a93952e0dcb21fb8e94057c701db179205a63d866654be
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for phf from 2 to 2 with note: Fixed our boxen!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43200 @ 0.00050964 = 22.0164 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2014 01:24:18; nubbins`: CLRF IS THE STANDARD NEWLINE
mircea_popescu: o wait he was kidding ? i r disappoint.
ben_vulpes: .net jokes
mircea_popescu just realised that in spite of not having a clue he was actually FUCKING RIGHT
mircea_popescu: i hope it burns, alf!
asciilifeform: burnz like sunshine (tm) (r)
asciilifeform: so anybody know the magical --disable-retardation flag for curl ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81862 @ 0.00050801 = 41.5867 BTC [-] {3}
ben_vulpes: not i
phf: what does that produce? curl -s `printf 'foo\x0abar'|curl -s -F "content=<-" http://dpaste.com/api/v2/`.txt|xxd
assbot: Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1mj6qJN )
phf: asciilifeform: ^-
asciilifeform: 0000000: 666f 6f0a 6261 72 foo.bar
asciilifeform: but this doesn't crap out the url
phf: well, that's the relevant posting bit echo foo|curl -s -F "content=<-" http://dpaste.com/api/v2/
assbot: The dpaste API, version 2 ... ( http://bit.ly/1OryrLX )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26859 @ 0.00051015 = 13.7021 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353741 << if i'm reading this thread correctly, this problem is directly traceable to tools used to jam ascii into dpaste.com et al?
assbot: Logged on 26-12-2015 05:25:36; mircea_popescu: for one thing it doesn't even seem it can be over web. it'll have to be actual files sftp'd or something.
assbot: 15 results for '0a' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=0a
ben_vulpes: "For historical reasons, the element's value is normalised in three different ways for three different purposes."
ben_vulpes: oh ho god no
asciilifeform: hysterical raisins (tm) (r) (orlov)
ben_vulpes: Finally, there is the form submission value. It is normalized so that line breaks use U+000D CARRIAGE RETURN U+000A LINE FEED (CRLF) character pairs
ben_vulpes: fuck this
ben_vulpes: crlf is in the fucking spec?!
asciilifeform: nubbins` did warn.
ith: What year is it, please?
mircea_popescu: U+ bs ?!
ben_vulpes: the year of microsft's victory, apparently ith.
ith: Sorry :(
mircea_popescu: there is no U+000D. it's \x0d
ith: Hmm
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: \x0d in the land of man; u+000d in zimbabwe, in the trees
ith: Has anyone figured out a way to do Windows 10 without being spied on?
ben_vulpes: !down ith
mircea_popescu: !down ahnm
mircea_popescu: wtf is this.
asciilifeform: ith: yes. you stoke furnace with it
asciilifeform: meowmix!
ben_vulpes: excuse me?
asciilifeform: !s meowmix
assbot: 63 results for 'meowmix' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=meowmix
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35977 @ 0.00050726 = 18.2497 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: no, the auth timeout.
asciilifeform: ahaha lol
ben_vulpes: what is it? 24 hours?
asciilifeform always regarded the timeout as a bug
ben_vulpes: assbot doesn't even give me a useful complaint.
ben_vulpes: interface isn't precisely self-consistent, no.
asciilifeform: aha it just silently pisses on you
ben_vulpes: like everything tonight.
ben_vulpes: fuck computers
ben_vulpes: i am going to go do the dishes, rageclean, watch a movie and bask in the cutefield.
asciilifeform: i'ma go an' read more maslennikov
asciilifeform: best autobio ever
asciilifeform: odd chapters sov collapse politics; even #'d chapters - theorems
asciilifeform: re: block & stream cipher analysis
asciilifeform: UNPUBLISHED ELSEWHERE
asciilifeform: i can see why no dead tree house agreed to print this
asciilifeform: it'd sell... 5 copies
BingoBoingo: line 11 in therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20151225/ban_aws_crud_3755a8bb0800aa9ec6fdb5f840e67d6cca4ac5cc.sh returns nekkin ip addresses/ranges right?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00050531 = 8.6408 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: let's try this russian thing :
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1353372 << "Politruk - a hero of the Soviet Union. You have an empty belly."
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 23:57:14; asciilifeform: http://www.sovunion.info/posters/listovky/200.jpg << same
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1353374 << "How is the Politruk doing - as he's pulling down the branch."
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 23:57:32; asciilifeform: http://www.sovunion.info/posters/listovky/199.jpg << ditto
pete_dushenski: !s politruk
assbot: 3 results for 'politruk' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=politruk
pete_dushenski: heh. s/ those translations.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: when would you date these 'german leaflets' ? ^
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00050605 = 8.8053 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 26-12-2015 01:11:01; thestringpuller: 'in the dark, all cats are black' (tm) (r) << or as the negros sometime say. All pussy feels the same with the lights out.
assbot: It’s not your outgoing US President’s fault he’s a dumb monkey, it’s affirmative action’s. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1OrAqzZ )
pete_dushenski: !s fred reed
assbot: 5 results for 'fred reed' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=fred+reed
pete_dushenski: thought it rang a bell
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26622 @ 0.00050605 = 13.4721 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23150 @ 0.00050531 = 11.6979 BTC [-]
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oeh9QA )
punkman: "unsung tax agent" lol
pete_dushenski: if that doesn't make you swoon...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88100 @ 0.00050531 = 44.5178 BTC [-]
mats: I thought of pete_dushenski this fine xmas
mats: chinese people and jews have a couple things in common, including enjoying chinese meals during xmas
pete_dushenski: don't forget to cite ben_vulpes too ;/
mats: i had no idea
BingoBoingo successully blocked AWS from port 8333
mats: although mebbe that fro should've been a giveaway
mats: anyway, am in the silly valley and wtf its colder here than boston
assbot: [1512.06808] Game Theory (Open Access textbook with 165 solved exercises) ... ( http://bit.ly/1OeiHKm )
pete_dushenski: mats: well, this christmas you can be thankful that you don't have to contest with other chinese doods in b-a for that little niche (yes, there are niches in b-a, as anywhere else).
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes and i, for example, have waaaay too much in common (similar age, young families, upbringing, even geography's not ~that~ far off), which i'm pretty sure is what leads to our sometimes curt and unproductive tete-a-tetes de temps en temps as we struggle to tease one apart from the other.
pete_dushenski: thankfully, he leaps ahead of me in coding and rockets (and other things) while i take the lead in, i dunno, travel writing or something, or else no one would be able to keep us straight.
BingoBoingo: I think ben_vulpes might even beat pete_dushenski in the fast cars department now.
pete_dushenski: mats: being the token chinese dood isn't a terrible spot.
mats: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00050531 = 4.1435 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: i've only ever had one fast car, and it grated on my nerves 98% of the time as 98% of my driving is under 60 kph.
BingoBoingo: I dunno, maybe leave the city every now and then?
pete_dushenski: that's what airplanes are for.
punkman: just need a carplane
pete_dushenski: ;;buy 1 carplane 1 btc inquire within
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the order book.
deedbot-: [Qntra] Warning: "Escrow Service" Goes On Sale - http://qntra.net/2015/12/warning-escrow-service-goes-on-sale/
BingoBoingo: What if you need to go to random farm or mudhole? how many of those have aeroports?
mats: anyways, time to turn it in so I can get an early start on http://eudyptula-challenge.org
assbot: The Eudyptula Challenge ... ( http://bit.ly/1NGu6kx )
pete_dushenski: mats: gl
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: one word : osprey
BingoBoingo: Aren't they notorious for killing their entire crew and cargo?
mats: first challenge is too easy: print hallo world to kernel debug log
mats: have a good one, folks.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: that's what makes them fun ! only a true hero would get behind the wheel of their own personal osprey
BingoBoingo: You mean only An Hero
BingoBoingo: ;;ud an hero
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=an+hero | an hero. To commit suicide, regardless of how stupid the reason is or is not. Someone stole Mitchell's iPod, so he became an hero. by 4chananonymous ...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49616 @ 0.00050605 = 25.1082 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski to lessing. and bed.
assbot: xkcd: Fixion ... ( http://bit.ly/1OekPSi )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36800 @ 0.00050809 = 18.6977 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59550 @ 0.00051002 = 30.3717 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52585 @ 0.00050487 = 26.5486 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68250 @ 0.00050376 = 34.3816 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126529 @ 0.0005104 = 64.5804 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108871 @ 0.00051043 = 55.571 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: AHA I FOUND THE REAL JUNIPER VILLIAN
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50612 @ 0.00051043 = 25.8339 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: how did I miss this turdbaggery previously
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30047 @ 0.00051049 = 15.3387 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00051049 = 9.4696 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77550 @ 0.00050638 = 39.2698 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: omg dat log... s/pastebin/bikeshed/
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> i am going to go do the dishes, rageclean, watch a movie and bask in the cutefield. <<< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf0oXY4nDxE
assbot: Aerosmith - Dude (Looks Like A Lady) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1mjjmiX )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> it'd sell... 5 copies << yeah, but catnip for some people :D
mircea_popescu: jurov keep going, eventually we figure out we actually don't need it. over alf's dead body.
deedbot-: [Qntra] Juniper Fiasco: Greenwald Complicit In Sustaining Mass Surveillance - http://qntra.net/2015/12/juniper-fiasco-greenwald-complicit-in-sustaining-mass-surveillance/
BingoBoingo: ^ Further deeper takes on the Juniper thing are prolly welcome
mircea_popescu: <punkman> "unsung tax agent" lol <<< "inexplicably, one of like five or six people DIDNT actually turn. at least so far. at least as far as we know. we're not really sure. DEMOCRACY PREVAILS!"
BingoBoingo: Latest qntra also has picture of Greenwald
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15684 @ 0.00050948 = 7.9907 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: didn't turn that they know of
BingoBoingo: But of course the tax office would select for the most blindly loyal to the fiat
mircea_popescu: mats> anyway, am in the silly valley and wtf its colder here than boston <<< something about how global warming rearranges hot streams and whatnot. #totally-not-random-climatic-noise
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo either that or the most stolidly boring.
mircea_popescu: but hey, one day he wants to be a lion tamer.
BingoBoingo: Is there a difference
mircea_popescu: in other news, dear chan, allow me to introduce... the blue footed booby. http://cdn.earthporm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/blue-footed-booby.jpg
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.0005091 = 14.3566 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55150 @ 0.00050964 = 28.1066 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: OpenBSD 5.8 on a 1999 iMac G3 (iMac,1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1OexIvD )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00050656 = 6.3827 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00051049 = 5.4622 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25849 @ 0.00051049 = 13.1957 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82450 @ 0.00050264 = 41.4427 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66580 @ 0.00051052 = 33.9904 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40952 @ 0.00050178 = 20.5489 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59800 @ 0.00050432 = 30.1583 BTC [+]
shinohai: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 421.0, vol: 18540.70965603 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 417.811, vol: 10636.5393 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 420.03, vol: 64565.92399074 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 421.21, vol: 0.28972837 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 416.138359, vol: 119160.49820000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 419.03254, vol: 81.58782921 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 422.576, vol: 85.40752718 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86450 @ 0.00050531 = 43.684 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48150 @ 0.00050657 = 24.3913 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13702 @ 0.00051059 = 6.9961 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/06339V3 ( https://cryptome.org/2015/12/nsl-under-seal-026-030.pdf ) re: 'national security letters', interesting record of failed resistance through litigation
assbot: dpaste: 06339V3: LORETTA E. LYNCH, Attorney General v. UNDER SEAL ... ( http://bit.ly/1VjGoSR )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: aha! thar he is
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353859 << terrible translation. correct one: 'every politruk you see - hoist him high into a tree'
assbot: Logged on 26-12-2015 06:30:22; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1353374 << "How is the Politruk doing - as he's pulling down the branch."
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353876 << so cheap is the octopus ink, but so laughably transparent - this idiocy is supposed to make folks forget about the tor 0day ?
mircea_popescu: "UNOPPOSED MOTION FOR PARTIAL UNSEALING" seems successful enough
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but in a very laughable sense where we DON'T learn the identity of the victim OR anything pertinent re: why he was picked
asciilifeform: so they unsealed... what? a portion of the boilerplate...
asciilifeform: this is usg's way of laughing
mircea_popescu: i have no fucking idea why the victims actually go along with this charade.
mircea_popescu: oh, you got a gag order ? ha-ha. heres' the website with the material published.
asciilifeform: vs what? take a pen and poke a policeman ?
mircea_popescu: watchagonnado.
asciilifeform: 20 yrs to life ?
asciilifeform: (ianal)
mircea_popescu: "the hackers stole it"
asciilifeform: stole a snail mail ?
mircea_popescu: why snail mail specifically ?
mircea_popescu: "i was keeping backups in the cloud".
asciilifeform: iirc these are typically delivered as snail mail, victim signs for package
mircea_popescu: these whats ?
mircea_popescu: they can stand on their fucking head.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41284 @ 0.00050822 = 20.9814 BTC [-] {3}
asciilifeform: anyway linked document solely because it appears to contain citations to case law
asciilifeform: in case anyone can be bothered
asciilifeform: but i don't know very many people who give half a fuck re: nazi case law today
asciilifeform: and so it goes for usg's.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353958 << mega-l0l, more or less same conclusion as my experience with toshiba libretto in '14
assbot: Logged on 26-12-2015 12:13:51; BingoBoingo: http://www.increasinglyadequate.com/macppc.html
asciilifeform: 'Running Firefox on this machine to browse "modern," Javascript-heavy sites is an excercise in frustration; the 2015 version of CNN.com basically freezes Firefox for 30 seconds or more.'
asciilifeform: and it is fine to say 'use lynx.' so i did. but turns out that you CAN'T GET the box running 'as if it was 2004' when my libretto happily ran freebsd with no lag
asciilifeform: (because the src packages are no longer available)
mircea_popescu: kinda why we gotta shrinkwrap and deedbot
asciilifeform: i loved that machine. it fit in a motherfucking coat pocket
asciilifeform: you can't buy this now, for any amount of money
asciilifeform: because it wasn't a 'shitbook', had decent display and usable (if with 8 fingers) keyboard
asciilifeform: cost something like 6K usd in '97.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353919 << this is a famously unobtainable gadget. (of questionable utility, also. just try pressing those keys)
assbot: Logged on 26-12-2015 07:46:34; punkman: http://en.qi-hardware.com/w/images/7/78/Nano_cola.jpg
asciilifeform: i tried for some years to find a vendor, then gave up
punkman: asciilifeform: saw an indian company that's supposedly shipping, ~$60
punkman: I'd really like something around that size
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53700 @ 0.00050457 = 27.0954 BTC [-]
jurov: looks like my xperia mini pro (sadly no longer working)
jurov: !t m f.mpif
assbot: How can I be of assistance, my poor man?
jurov: !mpif
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021522 B (Total: 427.60 B). Delta: -0.79 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000209 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: punkman, jurov: i have a similar device, 'zipit'
assbot: ZipitForge - Trac ... ( http://bit.ly/1mjzYad )
asciilifeform: and virtually useless
asciilifeform: (even if you can find something that runs tolerably on it)
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353977 << cheers. and when would these have been from ? wwii ?
assbot: Logged on 26-12-2015 15:24:52; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353859 << terrible translation. correct one: 'every politruk you see - hoist him high into a tree'
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: ww2, almost certainly in the blitzkrieg phase
pete_dushenski: makes sense
asciilifeform: german authorship, if it isn't obvious
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60143 @ 0.0005079 = 30.5466 BTC [+]
jurov: lol i'm sure actual germans needed not do anything beyond approval
asciilifeform: jurov: these were leaflets dropped by germany at the front
asciilifeform: there were analogous ones everywhere
jurov: aok
mircea_popescu: iffy thing. bout half the politruks were popular.
mircea_popescu: trotsky was one.
asciilifeform: one reason why sometimes popular, is that it was a parallel vertical
asciilifeform: or whatever this is called today
mircea_popescu: on occasion worked like a sort of "army union"
asciilifeform: y'know, sorta like the church in the old days
shinohai: node behaviour is much improved today asciilifeform ty
asciilifeform: separate hierarchy
mircea_popescu: had to, after the nonsense of "soviets" that destroyed russia's fighting capacity in ww1
asciilifeform: shinohai: aha! they can breathe! and many more interesting folks connected: cn, ru, etc
asciilifeform: shinohai: enjoy the clean air, while it lasts, eventually the crap artists will find proxies outside aws
mircea_popescu: actually discouraging adoption among the welfare horde is probably very useful for bitcoin. it's quite clear that adding nato reich puppets is a marginal loss per capita by now.
asciilifeform: Быдло, в стойло ! (tm) (r)
asciilifeform: (roughly, cattle - straight to the stalls!)
pete_dushenski: !up ryan-c
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51114 @ 0.00050956 = 26.0456 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00050457 = 5.3737 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Argentina's outgoing president has refused to give up her official Twitter account | Public Radio International ... ( http://bit.ly/1PoWzMp )
thestringpuller: good morning
assbot: The Niggar Family | Chappelle's Show - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1PoWJDB )
asciilifeform: 'And in this one, she complains of an imminent “devaluation” in January, which would leave workers poorer.' << ahahaha
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 02:21:17; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1345983 << whatever happened to sov ruble-style devaluations ?
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: That episode is so funny. Classic. "Look at suzie's baby. She's got them niggar lips!"
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: lol and "i don't want our daughter dating some niggar boy"
pete_dushenski: "not A niggar, THE niggars"
pete_dushenski: "In this tweet, she implies that the new government is guilty of nepotism," << ism-istas ! get 'em boys !
pete_dushenski: what wot ? everyone should have a chance to be top gov officials ! even the homeless bums !
pete_dushenski: because homeless bums and black doods who've never been beaten know what's best for this country.
pete_dushenski: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 407.0, Best ask: 408.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 407.1, 24 hour volume: 78611.5073499, 24 hour low: 405.5, 24 hour high: 460.05, 24 hour vwap: None
pete_dushenski: boxing day sale !
pete_dushenski: or children selling their btc to buy half-priced winter jackets and... air conditioners
pete_dushenski: y'know, for the global warming
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al: maslennikov has a lulzy chapter on how rng for key generation was done (late '80s, imported 'pc xt' in kgb, but no trng naturally). answer: chix playing 'tetris'
thestringpuller: i had a realization today. i would rather bitcoin be plagued with scammers so the idiot "experts" who seem to know what is best for bitcoin would get scammed.
asciilifeform: usg 'expertz' have approximately as much to fear from sc4mz0rz as mountain from mosquitoes
jurov: what? hasn't that happened already?
asciilifeform: (it isn't as if the money they spent were their own, or its supply - finite)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00050597 = 4.4019 BTC [+] {2}
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i'm not talking about usg 'expertz' i'm taling about d00d who lives in his mom's basement rent-free 'expert' who is able to convince 1000 other lemmings he is an expert.
thestringpuller: at least if they got scammed you wouldn't have to worry about them.
asciilifeform: wai wut
asciilifeform: i had to worry about them ??
asciilifeform: let the rats feed on the rats.
thestringpuller: i guess not. point taken.
thestringpuller: I would rather have the rats exterminated tho!
thestringpuller: Is there no rat poison in BTC?
asciilifeform: vermin are thermodynamically inevitable
punkman: http://www.pandorawiki.org/images/Pandora1ghz.png this is pretty close to a better nanonote, but not for sale anywhere
assbot: Dragonbox Pyra - Pyra Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1R1ld7r )
jurov: dunno. one can have n900 with similar specs and broken modem for free
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68600 @ 0.00050401 = 34.5751 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13350 @ 0.00050376 = 6.7252 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12310 @ 0.00050376 = 6.2013 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00050295 = 9.0531 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27290 @ 0.00050316 = 13.7312 BTC [+]
jurov: thestringpuller: why?
thestringpuller: cause people draw causation from correlations when that's dumb
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45978 @ 0.00050333 = 23.1421 BTC [+] {3}
asciilifeform: punkman, jurov: i can't speak for other folks, but i learned that i fucking hate thumb keyboardz
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48957 @ 0.000503 = 24.6254 BTC [-] {3}
asciilifeform: look forward to more cia-mole 'stress tests' at ukr power stations.
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 08:51:45; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351451 << i was rather distantly downwind of that. along with most everything else in the civilised world.
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 02:11:02; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/12/on-19th-day-of-christmas.html << add the 19 ukr fission plants to list-of-thing-you're-no-longer-down-wind-of
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48950 @ 0.00050294 = 24.6189 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51200 @ 0.00050663 = 25.9395 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53900 @ 0.00050294 = 27.1085 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Juniper Fiasco: Greenwald Complicit In Sustaining Mass Surveillance | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1RLwudD )
punkman: asciilifeform: I don't love the tiny keyboards, but as long as it's not on a touchscreen, and I'm not writing novels on it, it seems better than clunky airgapped lenovo
asciilifeform: punkman: possibly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32306 @ 0.00050674 = 16.3707 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu et al: maslennikov has a lulzy chapter << by now, "cryptogeeks, their ideas of females and trngs" coulod be a book. wasn't it proposed in the logs orgasm noise be measured?
mircea_popescu: i guess the only conclusion possibvle is that su was way the fuck boring-er than ba.
asciilifeform: hey most pc users ~still~ end up with keyboard jitter as entropy source
asciilifeform: not much has changed.
asciilifeform: 'here in the chicago meat yards, we use the entire pig. even the squeal...'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 165246 @ 0.00050771 = 83.897 BTC [+] {5}
ben_vulpes: !rate shinohai 1 trb scout
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/f85504a26e483a8c
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.shinohai.1:3a59134afe01c07de8fa56f34dd89ab3f3b572c8d9cdae951a8dc812620ca0fd
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for shinohai with note: trb scout
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo totally gotta get that guy writing articles huh
shinohai: ^^ ty ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: easy come easy go
ben_vulpes: long overdue in any case.
mircea_popescu: so... not so easy come ? :D
ben_vulpes: some girls, at first...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6866 @ 0.00051067 = 3.5063 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Рунет остался без Google’s Public DNS → Roem.ru ... ( http://bit.ly/1JB3T2U )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15168 @ 0.00051068 = 7.746 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27832 @ 0.00051079 = 14.2163 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: run moar dns.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41221 @ 0.00051079 = 21.0553 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: some lulz "1 BTC = 1 BTC is an entirely meaningless statement." in reference to bitcoin being uninflatable.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39200 @ 0.00051079 = 20.023 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00050975 = 5.8621 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 110700 @ 0.00051133 = 56.6042 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117035 @ 0.00050704 = 59.3414 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 149113 @ 0.00050262 = 74.9472 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23944 @ 0.00050164 = 12.0113 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: eh, coinbase.
thestringpuller: Well that's the nail in the coffin.
thestringpuller: another nail*
shinohai: Death to Coinbase
mircea_popescu: not like it's doing anything anyway. fiddy bucks from sales one way or the other, who cares.
thestringpuller: the rats care. although asciilifeform may be okay with living with vermin, i would prefer to have an exterminator come through.
shinohai: No ones surprised they would suck Gavin's cock since they already suck usg
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 413.18, Best ask: 413.86, Bid-ask spread: 0.68000, Last trade: 413.35, 24 hour volume: 98662.17519776, 24 hour low: 405.5, 24 hour high: 456.45, 24 hour vwap: None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 252299 @ 0.00050101 = 126.4043 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41901 @ 0.00050002 = 20.9513 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 26-12-2015 21:13:04; mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo totally gotta get that guy writing articles huh
assbot: Juniper Fiasco: Greenwald Complicit In Sustaining Mass Surveillance | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pq8lIe )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: beautyon, keeps writijng comment articles
BingoBoingo: It's been a while since I last proposed this. They just seem to keep blogging on medium.com and occasionally dropping article length comments.
mircea_popescu: weird huh
BingoBoingo: Yeah, one of our first persistent non #b-a commenters, but still living on Medium.com and social media mostly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 189399 @ 0.00049999 = 94.6976 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34701 @ 0.00049984 = 17.3449 BTC [-]
assbot: rate my bulk (185 to 273 from Aug-May) this is the end - Bodybuilding.com Forums ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pq9PlK )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92623 @ 0.00049968 = 46.2819 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 143915 @ 0.00049935 = 71.864 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73346 @ 0.0004993 = 36.6217 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52942 @ 0.00049915 = 26.426 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.00050397 = 13.1536 BTC [+]
assbot: JL: ‘Safety Knowledge’ ... ( http://bit.ly/1OQJk4h )
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 419.33, Best ask: 419.72, Bid-ask spread: 0.39000, Last trade: 419.34, 24 hour volume: 101788.25527735, 24 hour low: 405.5, 24 hour high: 452.7, 24 hour vwap: None
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 418.32, vol: 27450.52215391 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 414.668, vol: 16501.33529 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 419.11, vol: 101788.25527735 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 422.35, vol: 6.95928143 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 409.47543, vol: 122320.52750000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 418.49, vol: 226.08512349 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 412.86224, vol: 137.65795311 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: average: 414.362163198
BingoBoingo: Looks what happens after the AWS block script https://archive.is/NIB3C
BingoBoingo: !up BashCo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 163800 @ 0.00050398 = 82.5519 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84450 @ 0.00050838 = 42.9327 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36976 @ 0.00050995 = 18.8559 BTC [+]
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