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renart: just like ubuntu, totally adequate for 94% of use cases, and entirely inadequate for the remaining 6%
renart: but you know your taleb and tail risk right?
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renart: Google is working to make the vehicles more “aggressive” like humans << were it not for drag-induced inefficiencies this'd result in 80 MPH highways the typical "$500 dollar car" owner'd not be able to cope with, much less get insured to drive on
danielpbarron: !up harrymoreno
danielpbarron: with any luck they'll program those cars to move out of my way when i come up behind them in the passing lane
assbot: Let’s See: The Red Stuff or the Green Stuff? | In the Pipeline ... ( http://bit.ly/1JfLYic )
punkman: I've seen those
punkman: "Overseen by the not-for-profit Linux Foundation"
asciilifeform: ahahahahaha
punkman: "“The current blockchain is a great design pattern,” says Jerry Cuomo, vice president and chief technology officer of IBM’s software group. “Now, how do we make that real for business?"
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asciilifeform: phreeeeee mark3t competition for candidacy to Offficial usgcoin (tm) (r) (c) !!111
asciilifeform: see, everybody who expected that it'd be simply commissioned from 'lockheed' or similar, doesn't understand Phreeeeedom !1
asciilifeform: btw, mircea_popescu, ever ask torvalds why he doesn't shutter 'linux foundation' for pissing on ~his~ trademark ?
punkman: "Patrick Byrne has been worried that the big Wall Street banks would “circle the wagons,” creating tech that locks everyone else out. But because IBM’s new project is open source—because anyone can use it and contribute to it—he’s pleased. He believes in more than a single technology. He believes in a big idea. “I’m not wed to bitcoin’s blockchain,” he says. “I’m blockchain agnostic.”
assbot: Linux Foundation Unites Industry Leaders to Advance Blockchain Technology ... ( http://bit.ly/1JfMYCZ )
asciilifeform: 'The Linux Foundation, the nonprofit organization enabling mass innovation through open source, today announced a new collaborative effort to advance the popular blockchain technology. The project will develop an enterprise grade, open source distributed ledger framework and free developers to focus on building robust, industry-specific applications, platforms and hardware systems to support business transactions. Early commit
asciilifeform: ments to this work come from Accenture, ANZ Bank, Cisco, CLS, Credits, Deutsche Börse, Digital Asset Holdings, DTCC, Fujitsu Limited, IC3, IBM, Intel, J.P. Morgan, London Stock Exchange Group, Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group (MUFG), R3, State Street, SWIFT, VMware and Wells Fargo.'
assbot: The Force Awakens (Into the wild BLUE yonder!) ... ( http://bit.ly/1JfN39A )
asciilifeform: lulzy, pretty much whole lizard committee
trinque: "I’m blockchain agnostic." << Bitcoin doesn't know (or care) whether you exist either.
danielpbarron: "There is no one blockchain to rule them all. There will be multiple implementations of the blockchain. And it will be a sin if they don't interoperate and work together."
asciilifeform: 'The Linux Foundation and Linux Standard Base are trademarks of The Linux Foundation. Linux is a trademark of Linus Torvalds.' << how the fuq does this work
asciilifeform: i cannot help but conclude that torvalds could pull this plug any time he likes
asciilifeform: and that his failure to do so - is complicity.
assbot: Fake Star Wars Torrents Already Popping Up On Trackers | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1JfNGQH )
punkman: OpenTransactions really missed out on selling to all these derps
punkman: but they didn't have "blockchain"
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assbot: Stash · How it works ... ( http://bit.ly/1Icx813 )
asciilifeform: Users can store their funds securely in our innovative and unique multisig voting pools, enabling users to perform fast, low cost, off-blockchain transactions, without having to trust anyone to hold the money! With theft-proof funds and fraud-proof receipts, our platform is the only acceptable solution ...' << wai wat
asciilifeform: the 'multi-sig' idiocy is clinton's key escrow plain and simple
asciilifeform: yes, 'they can't spend your coin' but neither can you without usg's permission.
asciilifeform: quite possibly, hitler is willing to settle for this.
asciilifeform: and notice the implicit attempt to paint actual bitcoin as non-'theft-proof' and non-'fraud-proof'
punkman: bitcoin vouchers will have their uses
asciilifeform: dildo with razor blade rose embedded will have its uses
trinque: speaking of clinton's day, the "ban that encryption stuff" grows to a dull roar lately in the media.
trinque wonders if they can form sentences well enough in congress to actually write a law remotely related
asciilifeform: trinque: this brought to you by the ministry-of-let'em-think-they-haven't-been-owned-yet
trinque: I begin to believe they're just targeting the intelligent outright as a matter of.. what do you call it... full spectrum domination?
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BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 463.01, vol: 8536.50661148 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 456.349, vol: 7918.4791 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 463.54, vol: 17065.38512498 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 449.0, vol: 0.37 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 476.0152, vol: 82459.65750000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 464.0, vol: 62.90860505 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 444.503097, vol: 29.25204691 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 471.868422202
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BingoBoingo: Aspies discuss real life https://archive.is/CqFQl
assbot: Why do some players spawn with debuffs? : outside ... ( http://bit.ly/1MkGuCM )
BingoBoingo: "I wish the devs were as active as they were in beta. Things got out of hand one time and all active players, save two, were permabanned over the course of a 40 day ban spree. The two remaining players survived due to a workaround and built the community back up."
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mircea_popescu: !up DerpUnion
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 04:27:41; asciilifeform: as in, not only did folks get $15k or whatever creditcard-level investment for, what, 20% cut, but had to ~live~ in the compound
mircea_popescu: they're actually a pretty good study into "what not to do".
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346169 << let me guess :that key flaw is that computers are chickenshits.
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 04:59:42; assbot: Humans Are Slamming Into Driverless Cars and Exposing a Key Flaw - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1JfL05y )
mircea_popescu: heh check it out, i was exactly right.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346171 << no no you don't understand how government works. "it was never its fault".
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 04:59:51; renart: 2x the human accident rate
mircea_popescu: now we finally understand the deep driver behind the "it's ok to be fat in the subway, it's not ok to sit comfortably. eating doesn't cause obesity, it's genetic, notwithstanding no single "genetic" obese dude in all those auschwitz pics ; meanwhile smoking causes cancer, it's not genetic and it's especially not the sad result of all the crap industry puts in the tobacco and also mark twain didn't smoke two railcars' w
mircea_popescu: orth over 80 years!"
mircea_popescu: the real driver isn't that USG wants to favour women over men.
mircea_popescu: the real driver is that the USG is much more adequate to governing robots than people. that women are more robot-like than men is just biological happenstance
mircea_popescu: (if you have two genders and gender dysmorphisms, for any objective measure you'll have one gender closer and the other further, no matter what.)
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 05:20:48; punkman: "“The current blockchain is a great design pattern,” says Jerry Cuomo, vice president and chief technology officer of IBM’s software group. “Now, how do we make that real for business?"
mircea_popescu: YOU are not business, schmuckaroos. WE are business. you're a quaint historical accident.
mircea_popescu: now get out of the way before you gotta bleed for it.
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 05:24:47; asciilifeform: btw, mircea_popescu, ever ask torvalds why he doesn't shutter 'linux foundation' for pissing on ~his~ trademark ?
mircea_popescu: punkman:
mircea_popescu: "Patrick Byrne has been worried that the big Wall Street banks would “circle the wagons,” creating tech that locks everyone else out. << ever since reading all about it on trilema hurr durr.
mircea_popescu: all these original thinkers, it's a fascinating world.
assbot: Logged on 28-11-2015 16:33:08; mircea_popescu: anyway, my data seems to suggest that the enemy will be pushing a fork before the decade's out. whether we at that time have a counterfork ready or not is pretty much what decides the fate of the free world.
assbot: Logged on 01-10-2015 08:53:51; mircea_popescu: if this keeps up ima have to fork the pisschain.
mircea_popescu: lo and behold, the log that nobody reads changes the world. it's not a matter of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346189 ; it's a matter of "that asshole already said something, either we move now or we're fucked, at least if history is any guide. it is."
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 05:23:35; asciilifeform: see, everybody who expected that it'd be simply commissioned from 'lockheed' or similar, doesn't understand Phreeeeedom !1
mircea_popescu: and so now they gotta make this forced mistake. all the better.
mircea_popescu: the war was getting expanded to "linux" anyway. fuck them and their stupid foundation, and torvalds can do exactly what sipa could have done : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-05-2015#1147837
assbot: Logged on 29-05-2015 23:16:21; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell sipa if you want to join #b-a and actually work on bitcoin for a change, i'll rate you so you can voice.
mircea_popescu: ditch the idiots and come here on his own fucking motor power. i'm not going to ask him anything, the most i might do is nod.
mircea_popescu: time for the irresponsible, delusionally-secure "coders" to figure out they live in a world, and whether they're interested in this aspect or not is perfectly irrelevant.
mircea_popescu: same exact deal as for that de raadt fellow, or that auerheimer fellow, or everyone else actually.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346203 << as far as the eventual tmsr freisler is concerned, absolutely it is. otherwise, it's just stupidity. "oh, nothing bad could ever happen to me i'm just researching". yeah, right. that is TOTALLY how it works.
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 05:31:59; asciilifeform: and that his failure to do so - is complicity.
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mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346206 << open transactions was basically psychopathy spread on wonderbread.
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 05:35:52; punkman: OpenTransactions really missed out on selling to all these derps
mircea_popescu reviewed them in 2012. the answer was, come to think of it, very much like monero's. (oh hurr durr we're visionarily important and lalaal). so i decided to give them all the time they could possibly need to figure shit out and well...
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 05:40:17; asciilifeform: the 'multi-sig' idiocy is clinton's key escrow plain and simple
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mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346221 << seems the process they settled on is to write many thousands of pages, not as much on the theory that hey, eventually something in there will close (much like the random-wiring approach to making cpus), but moreover on the theory that then they can ACT as if it did, and you're welcome to challenge heh heh.
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 05:44:38; *: trinque wonders if they can form sentences well enough in congress to actually write a law remotely related
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346223 << this is exactly correct, by the way. either the recent lafond piece or else your own familiarity with the ghetto will readily inform you that police activity is not directed at preventing theft or damage, but simply at preventing the emergence of large or powerful organisations that might in any way or to any degree challenge the sovereignity of the usg itself.
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 05:46:20; trinque: I begin to believe they're just targeting the intelligent outright as a matter of.. what do you call it... full spectrum domination?
mircea_popescu: in this paradigm, it is not so important that there's mass theft or rape, just that there's no organized power behind it.
mircea_popescu: obviouisly if there WERE such a power, the actual damage actual working people suffered would be minimal, but this is at no point a consideration.
mircea_popescu: the same exact process used in "policing" the ghetto, at the taxpayer's expense but in the usg's own private benefit is also what the us military does abroad. the point isn't for iraq to functyion or not, the point is for there to not exist any gaddafi's. let the euros deal with the fallout, what, that's what the castrated suckers are there for anyway.
mircea_popescu: between mob-run ny, which functions smoothly and is culturally relevant and ghetto-choked baltimore, which does not function and is culturally irrelevant, the usg will pick the second every time.
mircea_popescu: and the chief instrument of this picking is "raising awareness". do you care that random IT offed another random IT ? no, because "hey, we only off each other". but maybe you should! if you were to care, how many wonderful things would become possible - none of which wonderful for you.
mircea_popescu: "Although I would say that I am reasonably well connected, have many startup CEO friends, go to events and am regularly speaking to mentors, no one ever sat down with me and systematically challenged me about the Dinnr concept."
mircea_popescu: bwahahah. so.then.why.bother. omfg.
mircea_popescu: "I really would have needed a critic who said:" /me points out to Michal Bohanes that he has published no ready means of contact. not that it matters, you'll see your name in google next you look for it. anyway : next fucking time, ask #b-a.
mircea_popescu: "oh, i've went to all the witch doctors i could find, none of them knew anything" "have you tried the hospital ?" "wut"
mircea_popescu: "Having such detailed feedback wouldn’t require diving into the data, but having someone spend an hour stress-testing my thinking and assumptions would have been gold dust and could have prevented a lot of effort wasted. I’m sure I’d have gotten that had Dinnr been accepted into accelerator programmes such as Seedcamp, TechStars or Wayra. But absent a full-time co-founder, we weren’t eligible for the former two
mircea_popescu: and narrowly missed the entry into the latter."
mircea_popescu: motherfucker. "this stupid shit i did never works - clearly i must do more of it. surely if 5 grand worth of advertising is a waste, 5 mn is just the ticket. obviously every article in every "media outlet" i ever read that fell within my field of competence was below stupid, but clearly the way to inform oneself is to read more fishwraps."
mircea_popescu: what the everloving fuck is wrong with people already.
mircea_popescu: "No Deus ex Machina will come and challenge you in the right spots. This is why you got your own experience, both theoretical (those startup books DO help!) and practical for. You have to do it yourself."
mircea_popescu: right-o. because the one thing we're truly committed to, beyond anything and everything else, is that there MUST NOT BE any god in the god damned machine. what if there were and he started spewing death warrants and whatnot! no, no, gimme lukewarm mediocrity as a prior and let's see how well i do!
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346286 << from the linked turd looks rather more like an altcoin than a fork
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 13:15:12; mircea_popescu: and so now they gotta make this forced mistake. all the better.
asciilifeform: !s usgcoin
assbot: 6 results for 'usgcoin' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=usgcoin
asciilifeform: !s taxcoin
assbot: 7 results for 'taxcoin' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=taxcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74000 @ 0.00049512 = 36.6389 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: it looks like trying to suck all the imbecile "talent"
mircea_popescu: you know, the kind that can't leave "the country".
mircea_popescu: it's stupid, but it's exactly in line with how usg is stupid, so no big surprises here. by all means, they should have 'em.
mircea_popescu is vaguely pleased that the war of the worlds is actually played out in the central ideological core of those worlds in question.
asciilifeform: not often do all the maggots come together to build one single maggot castle
mircea_popescu: if i had a goal, this'd definitely have been it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "fiecare pasare pre limba ei piere" being the romanian expression.
mircea_popescu: "every bird dies in its own tongue"
mircea_popescu: "For these and other such moments, for the opportunity of having worked with a fabulous team and dedicated investors, it was worth doing it all.
mircea_popescu: Even those miserable moments in January 2014, cycling through the icy rain to buy a single lemon, returning back to the dank cold warehouse, staring at the Dinnr backend, waiting in vain for orders to arrive."
mircea_popescu: the destruction self-imposed blindness wreaks upon the lives of the wilfully blind is a pretty sad sight huh.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla et al: zoolag is back. (at least until it exhausts its disk)
asciilifeform: and iiiiinterestingly:
asciilifeform: bitcoind oomkilled on bucephalus on Dec 17 23:13 (EST)
asciilifeform: this was a box with 4GB. 88 days endurance total.
asciilifeform: (contiguous)
mircea_popescu: is this v-based or disused core ?
asciilifeform: whythefuq would i core
mircea_popescu: core never gets that far. not ever.
mircea_popescu has set the goal at 30 days w/o oomkill on 16gb box, and even that took some engineering.
asciilifeform: bucephalus is running v-(asciilifeform spearhead press)-stator
asciilifeform: or hm, let me check to make sure
asciilifeform: so technically yes and no
asciilifeform: it is running same code, but built prior to first v release.
mircea_popescu: so maybe good opportunity to rebuild ?
asciilifeform: actually bucephalus for now will continue as is. dulap, on the other hand, will serve up fresh v+musl tonight.
asciilifeform: it's been a year+ and we still leak motherfucking memory
asciilifeform blows dust off alexandrescu
mircea_popescu: did you ever find the time to look into jurov's BN_copy/operator= stuff ?
mircea_popescu: !up magnus__
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha. but so far not able to replicate his result
mircea_popescu: me either ;/
asciilifeform: might help if jurov actually posted his methods
assbot: Don Juan Matus -- The 4 natural enemies of a man of knowledge - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Yq0OcP )
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mircea_popescu: is there a transcript ?
mircea_popescu: "The dating continued a couple of times more: I was definitely attracted by the innovation of the product (mining and mapping networks of Web content)."
mircea_popescu: holy shit the innovation...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35400 @ 0.00049187 = 17.4122 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: https://cryptome.org/2015/12/cellphone-spy-equip.pdf << cryptome still alive ? and the document is misnamed, it is a long and lulzy spy radio / survey catalogue
assbot: dpaste: 1S99HCV: The 4 Natural Enemies of a Man of Knowledge, by liquidassets ... ( http://bit.ly/1PdkNLn )
asciilifeform: rather than just cellphone crud
mircea_popescu: liquidassets bless you. lessee
liquidassets: Wheels turning...The only lease I have that I'm aware of is to myself
mircea_popescu: liquidassets very good. good enough to sign on, actually, even though I've not written it myself.
mircea_popescu: who did ?
liquidassets: The thing I linked?
mircea_popescu: minor exceptions, such as "No. Once a man gives in he is through." << not so for a woman.
liquidassets: Looks like Carlos Castaneda
liquidassets: Not sure where I first found it/read it, it wasn't on the internet, but wasn't a book either...
mircea_popescu: lol. what, was it in a dream ?
liquidassets: Isn't that why you teach them though MP?
liquidassets: teach//beat
mircea_popescu: complicated.
liquidassets: Wait,, searching for "No. Once a man gives in he is through"
liquidassets: Stubborn creatures but I cannot blame them...dealing with bullshit their entire lives
mircea_popescu: "One of the failures was clearly the will to spend all the money rather than to spend it wisely. " << ehehehe.
liquidassets: And it really gets interesting when you move 'out of the bedroom' and into "real life"
mircea_popescu: morpheus : there is no bedroom.
mircea_popescu: "Barcelona’s Mobile World Congress 2012: I remember seing nice pictures of nice cocktails and nice restaurants from the business developers; I remember seing lots of appointments with potential customers; I remember it ended up with no customer but a partnership; I still do not know the cost of the operation, even as a cofounder." awww.
liquidassets: LOL did he say that?? If not I'd like to see THAT one
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346305 << the corollary of this is that usg luuuvvvs mass theft and rape SO LONG AS it is carried out by disorganized 'brownian motion' monkeys
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 13:30:29; mircea_popescu: in this paradigm, it is not so important that there's mass theft or rape, just that there's no organized power behind it.
assbot: Why our startup failed — oncletom.io ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pdnyfv )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think the love and hate part are mixed in about even proportions
mircea_popescu: (on occasion monkey rapes patty hearst into doe-eyed submission, for instance)
asciilifeform: in much the same way as a hunter loves deer
liquidassets: But exactly was my point with her. She wanted it 'just in the bedroom' and eventually it got to be, well, what's this thought that your life DOESN"T reflect it...
mircea_popescu: in muich the same way cancer patient loves cancer
mircea_popescu: "hey, at least it's getting me morphine and all this attention"
mircea_popescu: liquidassets what her is this ?
mircea_popescu: "but it will necessarily kill you eventually" "yeah well... not today, buster"
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346307 << this is brzezinski's controlled chaos (tm). but of course dates to the ancients.
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 13:31:51; mircea_popescu: the same exact process used in "policing" the ghetto, at the taxpayer's expense but in the usg's own private benefit is also what the us military does abroad. the point isn't for iraq to functyion or not, the point is for there to not exist any gaddafi's. let the euros deal with the fallout, what, that's what the castrated suckers are there for anyway.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> might help if jurov actually posted his methods << yes, please do. you're doing good work, many thanks.
liquidassets: It's just a her now, a former. High maintenance, very hard to please..Constantly disappointed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you will notice this is a desperation play (or, conversely, the result of decay)
mircea_popescu: nobody ever does this intentionally.
liquidassets: so I disappointed her, because that's what she was
jurov: mod6 asciilifeform yes putting it together but it needs good writeup
mircea_popescu: liquidassets bitchiness in females is an unerring honest signal that the male they're paired with is short testosterone.
mircea_popescu: perhaps this yields true in humans too.
asciilifeform: jurov: neato
liquidassets: Yep, I see it
liquidassets: I like to think that I'm blowing her mind right now
mircea_popescu: jurov where's .yt again ?
funkenstein_: 14:30:56 mircea_popescu: is there a transcript ? <-- just so happens there is http://frass.woodcoin.org/the-four-enemies-of-knowledge/
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mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ neat. he produced a dpaste too.
jurov: mircea_popescu:it's coupla french rocks in some ocean
mircea_popescu: anyway, liked it a lot.
mircea_popescu: jurov there's clearly something there, just, we aren't finding it is all.
jurov: hehe
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mod6: <+jurov> mod6 asciilifeform yes putting it together but it needs good writeup << awesome, thx.
mod6: <+jurov> http://www.explo.yt/memgraph-fs8.png ;) << aha! ok, yeah, looks like you're on the trail of something there.
asciilifeform: unfortunately, the graph does not say very much - a node plugged into a slow pipe will look quite like the green chart
asciilifeform: the desired chart is where we get a ramp and an ~eternal~ mostly planar region
asciilifeform: (tx pool is kept full)
asciilifeform: full but not overflowing omg turds everywhere !111111
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect that a lot of the leaks are chained
asciilifeform: i'm quite certain of this.
mircea_popescu: if we manage to cut three chains we'll cut out twelve to seventeen different leak sources sorta thing
asciilifeform: i did narrow it down to tx
mircea_popescu: some of which aren't even permanent (ie, subtle sorts of bugs, that only leak 100kb every other six hours once maybe, sorta thing)
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mircea_popescu: in fairness tho, that node never sent txn (this is in the plan, eventually, to have a sort of dust-sender just to see what it does to memory)
liquidassets: Thanks funkenstein_ I tried to dpaste it. the youtube must be an abridged version
mircea_popescu: "We granted a lot of discounts to get customers on board. For the sake of signing new and more cyclic contracts afterwards. The contracts never happened." luller.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i see ~generating~ a tx as a job for a specially-crafted box running from ROM and powered down immediately after
mircea_popescu: here's a hint : if the woman's not willing to suck your cock to impress you on the first date, she's not gonna be willing to suck it three years in.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the goal in that line wouldn't be the same "make better code", just, find any holes.
mircea_popescu: you know, the grub2 variety.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incidentally a good bit of the 'startup' nonsense makes more sense when you realize that they weren't trying to get legit customers at all, but further chumps^H^H^H^H^Hinvestors
mircea_popescu: this is a hollow realisation.
asciilifeform: who like, or at least were thought to like, faux contracts / 'partnerships' etc
mircea_popescu: so the shaman isn't ordering the clouds to cover the sun and sprout forth rain, but instead is commanding the crows to stop eating the cloud seeds so the clouds may spring forth etc ?
funkenstein_: liquidassets, if you have trouble finding any of the 10 books in the series let me know :)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha!
asciilifeform: (only a psychiatrist could possibly care, but there it is)
mircea_popescu: "Intelligence is caused by big feet; obesity by genetics" lol ima end up reading this blog huh.
mircea_popescu: i thought large penii were caused by big feet
funkenstein_: lol correlated i'll bet
funkenstein_: saw you mention the genetic hurr durr earlier today :D
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asciilifeform: strangely there are, afaik, no obese penii
mircea_popescu: clearly you've never been a woman.
asciilifeform: did not say 'excessive', but 'obese' as in fat
mircea_popescu: here's a fun fact : about half the actual rapes (not hurr durr i'm on social media and bored) require a fourchette stitch.
mircea_popescu: oh. as in fat what, fat deposits on the penis ?!
shinohai: finally on block 378213
mircea_popescu: you'll get fatty liver before you get fatty penis.
asciilifeform: shinohai: where
shinohai: On my shitty node latest with mod6 's v
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: seems unsurprising, sorta like the scratches on the keyhole of a lock owned by a drunk
asciilifeform: (as seen in one of the sherlock holmes tales)
asciilifeform: this re: stitches
mircea_popescu: no. it's that a lot of [actual] rapists have uncomfortably large penises, but also the oversexed traits to go with them
mircea_popescu: which is why functioning brothels kill rape [actual rape].
mircea_popescu: but anyway, back to castrato issues : "Waiting for customers, waiting for customers to make a decision, hoping a customer will say yes, waiting for the customer to sign the check after saying yes is a very long process. During this time, your company has to pay for expenses, costs and salaries." <<< jesus christ these people. why the fuck would you think a start-up is even a business at all if those customers are doin
mircea_popescu: g anything but begging you to take their money ? here's a simple rule of thumb : if your start-up is not in this position where someone somewhere perceives he can't afford NOT to pay you, it's not a start-up. it might be a business idea, perhaps, but it can not be a start-up.
mircea_popescu: the difference being that businesses happen at the tip of a large pushing force, such as the airbnb scam pushed by paul graham-madoff, or such as "green energy" scam pushed by president bahamas-madoff. to be a start-up is exactly opposite to this, you're alone.
asciilifeform: airbnb (and 'uber' etc) might fit both holes, in that they are gunning for an 'ebay' position - that of being 'the market'
asciilifeform: the only market for x.
mircea_popescu: in the sense that soviet soap was a start-up. "hey, it's this or not wash. what dove ?"
asciilifeform: this or not-wash.
mircea_popescu: yes, americans are poor and getting poorer. yes the Ministry of Packing Cattle Tighther has a solution.
asciilifeform: (ftr there was nothing detectably wrong with sov soap)
mircea_popescu: but that doesn't make it a start-up.
mircea_popescu: just like "coinbase" is not a bitcoin corp.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is. bad ph.
mircea_popescu: soviet soap (like cheap usian soap, for that matter) is a kind of detergent. this isn't what good soap is.
asciilifeform: what is soap even for if not to be a mildly basic detergent.
asciilifeform: and surfactant
mircea_popescu: !up chupachup
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha the later.
mircea_popescu: a detergent works by chemically stripping fat.
shinohai: Que chuoas chupachup
mircea_popescu: this is undesirable incontact with skin.
mircea_popescu: (mostly because the skin is not designed to protect its insides from osmotic processes driven by outside chemicals)
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liquidassets: We are all so young. Is there anyone here over 40? just curious
mircea_popescu: there's the occasional 60yo. why do you care anyway ?
liquidassets: Don't care really, I'd be impressed. Looking around I'd usually prefer most of them to just die already
mircea_popescu: on that basis ?!
liquidassets: On the basis that they're already mostly all dead anyway
mircea_popescu: by this reasoning food is "motly shit already" anyway.
liquidassets: I'd prefer to eat and not think of it as shit..?
mircea_popescu: so there you go.
Birdman: Well to be fair if the food had been sitting out a few days..
liquidassets: Previously my frustration has been with older men who think themselves a little too highly for my taste, have acquired the ability to navigate social circles/seem to have all the power, and see me as a punk kid
mircea_popescu: for all you know they're exactly right.
liquidassets: Maybe that's because I was/am
liquidassets: yeah exactly..
liquidassets: But still, if you're an old, frustrated, white, male, American, who watches Fox News and considers yourself informed, and all the young cocks blah blah, back in my day, blah blah..
liquidassets: Fucking have your heart attach already
Birdman: Some want respect for being alive longer than you, just dont give it where its not due.
liquidassets: Birdman and this is where I think there's an actual generational difference, the younger doesn't just automatically give it
liquidassets: Which frustrates the older
trinque: do not take the circumstances under which you grew up as universal.
Birdman: There is a difference between courtesy and respect, though. It might have been drilled into their heads that they deserve it, for some reason, and senses of entitlement are rampant.
liquidassets: It's a theme trinque see Caprica
Birdman: Yes, as far as America goes this is common. The fat slob brainwashee's who arent worth a damn would like to be held in high regards.
liquidassets: I think Birdman that it's a natural thing to want respect as you get older, especially FROM the younger. Because most younger are worthless anyway and they never got respect from their peers either
liquidassets: They being the older
liquidassets: and their wives despise them
Birdman: Natural as in most people will end up like that? I dont intend to grow into that situation. I cant speak for anything outside of my own experiences, but as the world with open arms accepts socialism, you can expect more unfounded entitlement.
trinque: you are both conflating at least two things.
trinque: on the one side, the moo-eyed demands of the walmart customer, and on the other, a male desire for power which - if he's worth a shit - will accumulate over his lifetime
trinque: and if not, he'll still want it as he'd still want sex, even if he couldn't get any.
trinque: and so wht?
trinque: *what
mircea_popescu: ;;google site:tumblr.com go pussy free!
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mircea_popescu: really puts into perspective all the dumbass stevensons out there, doing srs bzns on teh interwebs.
mircea_popescu: the internet became its own self-parody sometime in what, 1995 ?
mircea_popescu: Birdman yeah they've been blaring it out of all horns for a coupla days now. it makes a stark contrast to how quiet they'll be about the end results of this yet-another GTO (glorious tikrit offensive).
liquidassets: Birdman natural as in I felt it before when in a 'menial' job taken AFTER accomplishments I was proud of and some surecock comes waltzing in telling everyone how mommy and daddy OWN a grocery store back in Minnesota and so blah blah...And I let him get under my skin
mircea_popescu: liquidassets there's something fundamentally wrong about those accomplishments.
Birdman: If you are proud of your accomplishments you wont be threatened by anothers i guess.
liquidassets: LOL yeah probably...never felt too proud about them, even though I "should" because of how they look
mircea_popescu: more importantly, why the fuck would you be working a menial job if you've ever accomplished anything fo real ?
Birdman: Does it upset you some people have a better start in the world?
mircea_popescu: if it's cuz you feel like it, then minesotta richboy's rather funny. if he's not funny, then wtf accomplishments were they.
liquidassets: For fun MP and because even though it was menial it still was going to be beneficial
liquidassets: Birdman no not at all
mircea_popescu knew a pimp that actually had a day job - working in a mall shoe store.
mircea_popescu: apparently "yo bitch, wanna make some motherfuckin' money ?" works better on barefoot womenz.
trinque: !b 2
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liquidassets: health food grocery store by a college campus after graduation....most of my life has been about "PC" or at least the prospect of it..
mircea_popescu: what's pc ?
Birdman: mircea_popescu politically correct
liquidassets: pussy crushin
mircea_popescu: heh. that worked well.
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mircea_popescu: what's "pussy crushing" anyway ? simply getting laid ? or some bizarre fetish i never heard about ?
Birdman: all the pc sjws are the people so repugnant that they need to claim a moral ground against pointing out their flaws.
Birdman: Just as all the feminists are on the unattracive side of the spectrum
mircea_popescu: "any flaws were god-given ; any qualities are my own" is just another rewrapping of that stale old jeder nach seinen fahigkeiten, jedem nach seinen Bedurfnissen cumbiscuit.
mircea_popescu: Birdman nonsense. i've fucked rather hawt feminists.
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news : the grand total okcupid offering for "women < 30 > 1.70cm within the 15mn buenos aires conurbation active in the past day" is... half a dozen people. clearly okcupid's not doing advertising correctly amirite nubbins ? :D
mircea_popescu: and no, there isn't a local equivalent. they're just primitive souls, computers = windows ; internet = facebook ; world = argentina etc scl.
Birdman: Ehh maybe i mean misandrists then, feminazis. Or that you've accomplished an incredible feat.
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mircea_popescu: honestly, i've yet to meet a woman (not mayo-gendered abominations, i've really not met any nor do i intend to) that actually hated men. there's a very mean streak in women generally, but visible with the naked eye in just some, where they truly and irationally haet beta boys, for some definition of beta that may be at first confounding.
mircea_popescu: but that unicorn, the woman that actually hates men, i've not encountered myself.
mircea_popescu: (the counter doth actually exist - men that genuinely hate women. i suspect the driver is that men are, for some inexplicable reason, actually petrified of cunt. it seems innate.)
Birdman: I guess the man hating isn't there, but you know, the crazy feminists who think a guy eyeing a hot girl is somehow violent and un just. They just know all too well that their sexuality is empowering, so those who lack it are intimidated. Sort of like the beta male crying for fairness with socialism or communism, but really just knows his weaknesses and cant compete in the true fair system.
mircea_popescu: well attention seeking behaviours are the invisible glue that keeps society together n'est pas.
trinque: Birdman: even that is "pay attention to me!"
Birdman: Plot twist
mircea_popescu: http://www.okcupid.com/profile/SharksAreRadical < cute 19yo, "I'll be living in Ottawa from January to May for a job, I know absolutely no one there and would love to have some friends."
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liquidassets: Birdman females are OBSESSED with who gets to sleep with who, it's one of their shows of power that some don't give up even after high school
mircea_popescu: (in other news, okcupid's "ai" matching system is an utter useless pos. my own network creates usable hits with a 50% probability or better, by the 100s/day - and i didn't even KNOW i know chicks on okcupid in the first place. their crapolade made me click no about five hundred times in a row.)
mircea_popescu: who knew that answering a bunch of pre-made questions nobody could care less about and then trying to mechanically "datamine" them isn't as good an approach as "hey, check out X, she's exactly right for you"
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mircea_popescu: "The promise is the following: a startup thinks it has an innovative solution. A startup thinks many other companies would pay for it.
mircea_popescu: However these companies made their life without you, most probably for years." << the fundamental delusion of start-up-ers is that the market is free and efficient, and therefore there exist objective measures of worth. the sad reality of life in socialist states (ie, any state that acquires through any means any measure of control on 10% of the production of the citizens or more) is that the market's distorted, and wh
mircea_popescu: atever exists is at best a paraeconomical concern surviving more on ideological fit than in satisfying objective measures. what, if "customers" are dissatisfied with the usg food or pills dispensaries they'll do what exactly ?
mircea_popescu: shinohai they've been working doubletime to keep that thing afloat. pretty lulzy.
mircea_popescu: "They will most likely not eat out of your hand if they can perceive you need them at first." << bwahahaha. they will not eat out of your hand if they perceive you need them ; and they will spend every dime they got to ignore you outright if they perceive you don't need them. so it goes.
liquidassets: LOL shinohai that cancer of dogecoin is in full blown metastasis
mircea_popescu: liquidassets just being "acquihired" into the other dying usgtron.
shinohai: "Hey guys, let's rake all this shit into one pile."
liquidassets: <heavy sigh> I'm not sure what my next move is
mircea_popescu: find a girl outside the states and go live with her.
liquidassets: Actually that's about a perfect answer as they come
liquidassets: workin on an exit
liquidassets: exit strategy i suppose
liquidassets: but I am happy here too
Birdman: Im in no position to get out either, ill see you at the camps liquidassets
liquidassets: Birdman there's not going to be any camps
liquidassets: not in our lifetime
trinque: no one could've ever foreseen, eh?
Birdman: Thing *seem* to be pretty bad, but ive only been around 20 years so I i see it all with that bias. Why do you say not in our lifetime?
liquidassets: lol I can read the writing...
trinque: don't worry about what is going to happen. you're not in a position to predict that.
trinque: read your betters and improve your situation.
liquidassets: Because it doesn't make sense; we are in such a unique position
Birdman: The implementation of this central banking fiat debt cycle nonsense is so new to this world. What a century its been here? How long can it really last because we all know it cant.
mircea_popescu: trinque in fairness, i only imagine there's gonna be camps for black ppls.
liquidassets: trinque true, better not to worry about what is or is not, did I really need to put an IMO?
mircea_popescu: !gettrust fghj
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Birdman: These are interesting times to be alive, that is for sure. And i have a bezzle bag so if i do somehow keep my imediate freedoms through the crash of fiat and rise of sound money my mouth will be fed.
mircea_popescu: this is an interesting point.
mircea_popescu: i suppose on a 20 to 50 year timeframe, it's drastically improbable anyone with a 1337 satoshi a day in income can possibly starve.
liquidassets: Birdman I say not in our lifetime because from my point of view, we win, we already won, it's just the matter of convincing Alf of this fact
Birdman: Though by the same logic, spending 20 USD would get me more bitcoin than the bezzle bag will ever in my lifetime
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1337 * 365 * 50 / 100000000 * 450
gribble: 109.801125
mircea_popescu: well... 1/5th of it, anyway
liquidassets: Look the culture of 'government's place is to stay OUT of the way' runs deep within America
liquidassets: Contemporary USAmerica, regardless of what it seems like we're going towards. What needs to happen is a little bit of pain
liquidassets: pain and suffering as in, shit medical care, shit food, shit everything...
liquidassets: USAsseters are in a very unique and interesting position
liquidassets: But there's literally a dozen of us
liquidassets: que PR
mircea_popescu: !rate fghj 1 Euloran
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mircea_popescu: "I think we had too much hesitation in the decisions about what we were able to do and on the delivered product as well.
mircea_popescu: I mean, who in the marketing industry is able to decode a 15K€ Web graph even if it contains loads of useful informations? And that was our number #1 feature. Now, I acknowledge the graph data was essential. We should have delivered them in an more effective and practical way: spreadsheets, data views (who are the influencers, how can I contact the websites owners, recommended keywords for Facebook/Twitter/newsletter
mircea_popescu: s per group of users etc.). We should have sold a set of of lists with pictures, a few simplified maps and targeted howtos rather than an army-grade Web satellite radar with full control in your hands." << the conclusion we arrived at through spending 1mn euro is that people are stupid.
Birdman: Ill tell you that for half the price
mircea_popescu: in any case asciilifeform, thius is the primary driver for the stupidification of everything, and it's genuine. people are stupid. either you build your cash register as the mcdonals iconographic abomination, or they stick to doing it "by hand". like idiot argentine woman yest. i buy a carton of cigarettes, four litersd of milk and two lighters. she does the addition on paper. first she adds 80 + 260 + 18 but misplaces
mircea_popescu: the 18 so it's 180 now, comes to 520. i point this out. she proceeds to add them again correctly this time, and comes to 488. i refuse this alt-arithmetic too. she does it once more, hands me 82 pesos in change for my 400. i refuse this once again, hand 40 pesos back to her and leave.
mircea_popescu: is a proper fucking cash register better than this insanity ? well... that all depends now, dun' it. better FOR WHOM ?
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mircea_popescu: a length of chain, a manger and the occasional stallion visit is actually better for her.
mircea_popescu: but this notwithstanding, you don't need any sort of conspiracy to explain linux drift, or foss decay.
mircea_popescu: just... people are dumb. that's it. that's all. you gonna make something they can use or not ?
mircea_popescu: if you want users, you're making shit. end of fucking story.
mircea_popescu: the notion that userbase is a metric has got to go, this is a not-negotiable prerequisite of a world that doesn't suck.
mircea_popescu: course, such a world will, by and large, suck to live in. but, again, the question is, suck FOR WHOM ?
mircea_popescu: and the answer is "fuck 'em".
liquidassets: Exactly all of this MP
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mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346515 << go take vacation to syria or any other pesthole where most people are under 30
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 15:42:51; liquidassets: Don't care really, I'd be impressed. Looking around I'd usually prefer most of them to just die already
liquidassets: cool when we going?
liquidassets: JUST KIDDING SUPER READERS
liquidassets: C4 Syria right?
funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346578 <-- look, first complliment to porteños wherewithal i've seen in this channel
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 16:28:00; mircea_popescu: in unrelated news : the grand total okcupid offering for "women < 30 > 1.70cm within the 15mn buenos aires conurbation active in the past day" is... half a dozen people. clearly okcupid's not doing advertising correctly amirite nubbins ? :D
liquidassets: HE'S IN A JOKING MOOD TODAY ISN'T HE SUPER READERS?
funkenstein_: ascii_field, congrats on gig changeup
ascii_field: funkenstein_: i haven't started yet, only signed
ascii_field: but ty funkenstein_
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346579 << quite like usa and afaik everywhere else
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 16:28:25; mircea_popescu: and no, there isn't a local equivalent. they're just primitive souls, computers = windows ; internet = facebook ; world = argentina etc scl.
ascii_field: (with various config values substituted in)
liquidassets: ;;gt Birdman
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liquidassets: !gettrust Birdman
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liquidassets: !rate Birdman -1 not very bright
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assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 17:07:00; mircea_popescu: the 18 so it's 180 now, comes to 520. i point this out. she proceeds to add them again correctly this time, and comes to 488. i refuse this alt-arithmetic too. she does it once more, hands me 82 pesos in change for my 400. i refuse this once again, hand 40 pesos back to her and leave.
ascii_field: i thought this only existed in usa
mircea_popescu: middle aged woman too, accomplished in fat (there's this certain rotundness of the respectable matron with prgeniture)
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ascii_field: though it is largely extinct in usa, pretty much nobody even dares to arithmeticize by hand
mircea_popescu: ascii_field my first thought upon encountering my first usians, as a 10 yo boy, was that "these people never went to school, did they ?"
mircea_popescu: i had never met someone up to that point who didn't longhand.
mircea_popescu: in fact, kids books specifically point out habarnam as "only capable of block printing"
ascii_field never learned latin longhand on account of usa schooling
mircea_popescu: https://habarnam.ro/aventurile+lui+habarnam/ << habarnam. readily recognized by the cultivated.
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ascii_field: holy fuck mircea_popescu
ascii_field: you do know what that is, no
ascii_field: 'незнайка в солнечном городе'
mircea_popescu: yup. great book too. it might be the best kids book ever written
mircea_popescu: this and ushinski's "povestind copiilor"
ascii_field: didja read 'незнайка на луне' ?
ascii_field: '90s ru capitalism was built seemingly using that parody as a handbook
mircea_popescu: haha no, i never read the sequel.
ascii_field: mega-b00k
ascii_field: possibly the lulziest children's economic-themed tale of all time
ascii_field: complete with stock fraud
mircea_popescu: it's kinda weird they wenbt with "habarnam" rather than "niznai" seeing how it's an actual bona fide ro world.
funkenstein_: my second ordered for delivery today :)
funkenstein_: well a translation "dunno and his friends"
ascii_field: waitasec there is an english ver ?!!
mircea_popescu: the original prose is very delicate, hopefully they preserved the thin porcelain quality.
ascii_field: and was it transled by that one brit who did everything else
ascii_field: (pelevin, strugatski brothers, etc)
ascii_field: i think he even did volkov's mega-upgrade of 'wizard of oz' even
ascii_field: ;;isup trilema.com
gribble: trilema.com is down
mircea_popescu: dude i want a payment machanism that works on par with fucking hosting.
mircea_popescu: that'd be great.
mircea_popescu: then i could pay these schmucks in almostcoins.
ascii_field: coins thrown with catapult
ascii_field: over ocean.
ascii_field: s0lv3d!!111
ascii_field: call it 'icpm'
ascii_field: (intercontinental payment missile)
mircea_popescu: but the point is that they should only sometimes work.
mircea_popescu: really, the only good equivalent is chocolate gold coins.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45611 @ 0.00048971 = 22.3362 BTC [+] {2}
ascii_field: aha, will have radius of error, and a certain nonzero prob of explosion at launch
mircea_popescu: "your kids ate some of your money. literally."
mircea_popescu: how do you know you're stuck in the kindergarten ?
mircea_popescu: chocolate coins would make sense as a means of payment.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
assbot: Important Announcement about ScreenOS® - J-Net Community ... ( http://bit.ly/1RtKiJK )
ascii_field: 'During a recent internal code review, Juniper discovered unauthorized code in ScreenOS that could allow a knowledgeable attacker to gain administrative access to NetScreen® devices and to decrypt VPN connections.'
mircea_popescu: da fuck is this "unauthorized code".
ascii_field: from the rumour mill, a straight backdoor
ascii_field: likely, nsa's 'FEEDTHROUGH'
ascii_field: but not 'found', naturally, but burned.
mircea_popescu: "during a recent random walk through the codebase in a desperate but doomed attempt to fix or at least paper over bugs we have no idea about to any degree, we discovered that our code repository is so broken half the shit in there wasn't even written by anyone we know. we'll keep pretending like we're a thing tho, because seriously, what the hells the difference anymore ? considering all the lies we've told to date, it
mircea_popescu: really no longer matters. oh, btw : fuck you."
assbot: Juniper Networks - 2015-12 Out of Cycle Security Bulletin: ScreenOS: Multiple Security issues with ScreenOS (CVE-2015-7755) - Knowledge Base ... ( http://bit.ly/1NtIVXy )
mircea_popescu: and then i'm the psychopath.
mircea_popescu: these nuts are fine.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51336 @ 0.00049077 = 25.1942 BTC [+] {2}
ascii_field: Run Moar Usgware
ascii_field: 'Juniper SIRT is not aware of any malicious exploitation of these vulnerabilities.' << aahaaaa
ascii_field: glorious
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69100 @ 0.00049398 = 34.134 BTC [+]
ascii_field: the visibly-to-naked-eye pwned backbonez around the globe, apparently, do not count.
mircea_popescu: well, it's trilema that's down, not change.org right ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 133950 @ 0.00049674 = 66.5383 BTC [+] {3}
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: mircea_popescu et al: who wants to recommend a reasonably-priced man-portable spectrum analyzer ?
ascii_field: something that doesn't mostly pick up ~its own heterodyne~
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66900 @ 0.00049427 = 33.0667 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: these are rather contrary requests.
ascii_field: probably.
mircea_popescu: what was the thing you dragged over to conf ?
ascii_field: that was an oscope/logicanalyzer combo
ascii_field: a very chinese one
ascii_field: 'everybody' has it
ascii_field: (iirc kakobrekla fessed up to having that specific one, even, on his bench at home)
ascii_field: incidentally, i never understood why a spectrum analyzer could not be a purely analogue affair
ascii_field: and why it has to sweep
ascii_field: why not simply a multitude of broad tuners attached to analogue lights.
mircea_popescu: what if you want a light in between ?
ascii_field: then you bring out the actual radio
ascii_field: analyzer is for survey !
ascii_field: and there is no 'in between', the bands ought to overlap.
mircea_popescu: then make your own, out of rhesistors
mircea_popescu: read the heatmap lol
ascii_field: with su shuttered, nobody optimizes this kind of tool for cheap+simple+effective
ascii_field: market consists solely of usgistic (costs like a car) and chinese parody (yer an audiophile and cattle and stfu buy this turd)
mircea_popescu: im still not sure what product you actually want.
ascii_field: sumthing that identifies peaks, dc to daylight, at close range.
mircea_popescu: and you propose to build this out of analog wide band tuners ?
ascii_field: imagine a 10x10 pixel camera.
ascii_field: could you take a decent survey of still objects in a room with it? surely
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56050 @ 0.00049748 = 27.8838 BTC [+]
ascii_field: think.
ascii_field: picture a one-pixel camera.
ascii_field: supposing that you can orient it, it is simply a very slow means of taking a picture.
ascii_field: original vidicon tube worked rather like this.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53700 @ 0.00049427 = 26.5423 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: the parallel with the decay of computing is actually a pretty close one
ascii_field: modern digital spectrum analyzer is very complex, largely to fight own interference
ascii_field: i often find it interesting to think about fields where this did NOT happen.
mircea_popescu: looky : your idea of phenomena seems inspired by an alt-reality where computer programs run on repeatable, replayable abstract machines.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu ever see, e.g., an old luger, or even maxim gun, taken apart ?
mircea_popescu: this is not even the case for fucking computers, let alone random phenomena.
mircea_popescu: if you're going to take "a very slow picture" with a one pixel camera, you'll end up measuring 42.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: wtf, i did it
ascii_field: it works.
ascii_field: i did specify 'inside a room'
mircea_popescu: you did what ?!
ascii_field: take a picture with a one-pixel camera
mircea_popescu: can i see this picture ?
ascii_field: i'd have to get it out of the vacuum cleaner
ascii_field: (consumer appliance with takes the pic every day)
mircea_popescu: ok, let's indulge. was there a woman in your picture with legs lazily spread apart ?
ascii_field: one of those things. has laser interferometer turret on top.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: nope. just doors and chair legs etc
mircea_popescu: shitty camera. next question.
assbot: View Source ... ( http://bit.ly/1NtQD49 )
mircea_popescu: the point here is that just like what people want to do with a camera (take pictures of woman) is not a good fit for your idea of a camera, just so what people want to do with sa is not a good fit for your idea of a sa.
mircea_popescu: which is why it's not getting built.
ascii_field: actually a top market niche for sa is 'bug sweep' and 'interference search'
mircea_popescu: o look at this, eulora now has 7 perople online
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67200 @ 0.00049748 = 33.4307 BTC [+] {2}
liquidassets: To all current and prospective USAsseters out there, true greatness can ever rarely be punished, much less so in the US, which makes its history something to be proud of. Don't forget that
ascii_field lacks the necessary lsd to parse this
Birdman: ^ danielpbarron
danielpbarron: hahahaha <3
liquidassets: When it hits you alf
liquidassets: For girl on girl, pretty hot got to say
Birdman: yeah but its still dykeish
Birdman: <liquidassets>For girl on girl, pretty hot got to say << implying most girl on girl isnt normally hot?
liquidassets: amiwrong?
Birdman: Ehh yeah, and besides two girls w/o strap on > two girls w/ strap on
liquidassets: notrly
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: did anybody ever bother to do the keyserver thing ?
mircea_popescu: not afaik.
adlai: ;;bc,diff
gribble: Error: "bc,diff" is not a valid command.
adlai: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 389090 | Current Difficulty: 9.34486707963238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 391103 | Next Difficulty In: 2013 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 4 hours, 48 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
adlai: tidy little hop there :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84050 @ 0.00049723 = 41.7922 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: anyway, while trilema's down, https://archive.is/ri2ta if anyone's desperate for the content.
assbot: There's a one Bitcoin reward for the death of Pieter Wuille. Details below. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1IZeA4t )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35678 @ 0.00049748 = 17.7491 BTC [+]
Birdman: I discussed with danielpbarron about how bitbet could be used to casually place hits on people
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11122 @ 0.00049773 = 5.5358 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: yeah apparently that's against the rules it turns out >> Then, any bet to do with breaking the law (specifically, murder, but also arson, theft, general destruction and mayhem) is a BadBet and not allowed on BitBet. https://bitbet.us/faq/#22
assbot: FAQ BitBet ... ( http://bit.ly/1IZfSwp )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00049772 = 6.7441 BTC [-] {2}
Birdman: what q you makin ?
mircea_popescu: Birdman notrly.
Birdman: hmm?
mircea_popescu: or to be more precise : the only way it could be actually used makes it obvious it's being so used (same exact principle as for the pay for your tits thing : carve this hash in the guy's forehead or some shit), and it being obvious it's so being used makes it trivial for bitbet to disalow the bet in question.
mircea_popescu: now obviously chair warmers all across the land have no fucking idea about anything and are happy to stay dumb, so random X may pretend whatever the fuck. but that's an entirely different matter.
mircea_popescu: 93 bn diff huh ? epic.
mircea_popescu: "We thought that others would also be interested in such a feature for their website, that made it possible to sell print products from all their pictures. Therefore, we decided to build something more generic, that everyone else could use as well. The new service was called PiX’n’PaLs PhotoProducts, which helped publishers monetize their website by selling print products from images. We took care of payment, shipp
mircea_popescu: ing and everything else. The publisher got paid a 20% commission." <<< put their dumbass widget on your site (so provide all the leads), use your own creatives (so provide all the work), be paid a 20% COMISSION.
mircea_popescu: this is almost as horrible a deal as being a parent.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32814 @ 0.00049773 = 16.3325 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://links.net/vita/gamelayers/ << the guy's literate, at least, so maybe interesting
assbot: A Story of GameLayers, Inc. ... ( http://bit.ly/1msfEDS )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88500 @ 0.00049418 = 43.7349 BTC [-] {2}
Naphex: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-12-2015#1345434 <<< the statement should be issued sometime during this week, hopefully by 22; if that's what you're referring to
assbot: Logged on 17-12-2015 14:26:51; mircea_popescu: "However, our growth rate did not meet our expectations, and the service does not scale as we would have expected to." aka "trying to leech of bitcoin while doing the usual fiat bullshit doesn't work."
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346168 << wait so 'renart' is ben_vulpes ? if so, whose side are you on man ?!
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski thanks i'll see wtf this is.
pete_dushenski: i thought ben_vulpes was all 'auto-auto-mobiles are the footoor because bayes'
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: sounds good
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1345982 << haha oh monkey brain, your search for the guy who can precisely predict the millimetres of rain that will fall on your village next season never ceases.
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 02:16:10; mircea_popescu: (this was counterintuitive to the grunts doing money changing in the street, we had a good laugh over steaks about it, when discussing venezuela's plans to the same thing. after it played out they decided i was a god. because hey, why admit you were wrong when you could think the guy who's right is simply supernatural)
pete_dushenski: btw that whole currency discussion was edifying
mircea_popescu: their idea was that hey, if official goes up, black market goers up THAT MUCH MORE
pete_dushenski: when really, the artificial gap narrows
pete_dushenski: http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/selling-bottled-lake-louise-air-started-as-a-joke-but-theres-actually-a-lot-of-demand&pubdate=2015-12-17 << local kids selling chinese something only we have. soon : one can of fresh mountain air for one amd fx tower with 64 gb ecc plox.
assbot: We talked to the Albertans selling bottled air to China — and despite all indications to the contrary, it’s not a hoax ... ( http://bit.ly/1msiIQo )
assbot: Replacement For Mozilla Thunderbird? - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OBmEVv )
BingoBoingo: Win >> "Guys, I think the Gopher people were right."
BingoBoingo: adlai: Were you writing a note on this diff increase?
Naphex: !up CoraCrisT
Naphex: !rated CoraCrisT
assbot: You rated user CoraCrisT on 30-Nov-2015, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: XOtika.tv CEO - Handles bussiness side, press, recruiting, marketing, hr, pr.
CoraCrisT: hi folks
CoraCrisT: ola mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: you up to date with the discussion re xotika ?
CoraCrisT: i lurk around here for quite some time
deedbot-: [Qntra] Substantial Bitcoin Difficulty Increase: 18.14% - http://qntra.net/2015/12/substantial-bitcoin-difficulty-increase-18-14/
CoraCrisT: also talked to Naphex about it. i stil need to see the actual contract
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79600 @ 0.00049778 = 39.6233 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell adlai too late. If you want a beat you can't just mention diff increase in chan without dropping an encrypted dpaste full of qntra submission.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell adlai But don't worry too much there could still be another diff increase this year
gribble: The operation succeeded.
CoraCrisT: i just need to study it a bit. won't take long tho
BingoBoingo: ;;isup qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is up
CoraCrisT: also need to prepare the next statement.. while i get used to it
Naphex: alright, i'm off too bed. gn
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 463.03, vol: 12725.90320756 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 457.75, vol: 7984.02485 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 463.34, vol: 26644.00834379 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 395.0, vol: 9.14193304 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 474.891282, vol: 100559.51380000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 467.69074, vol: 94.54804574 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 466.27999131, vol: 117.13111446 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)
pete_dushenski: eth ticker 0.00196220 eth/btc (-5.51%)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: average: 470.854442956
CoraCrisT: !rate Naphex 10 most badass coder i ever worked with. his moral character & integrity are rock solid.
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/6e69a4cb9d87138b
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 389108 | Current Difficulty: 9.34486707963238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 391103 | Next Difficulty In: 1995 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 19 hours, 18 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
CoraCrisT: !gt Naphex
assbot: Trust relationship from user CoraCrisT to user Naphex: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=CoraCrisT&to=Naphex | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Naphex/
trinque: CoraCrisT: decrypt your otp there and provide with !v
adlai: BingoBoingo: i'll be rooting for it... but i can't load qntra now, DNS is up to its usual reliability standards
BingoBoingo: Yeah, something happened right after publish was hit
adlai: !up CoraCrisT
pete_dushenski: http://people.csail.mit.edu/ranjit/papers/poker.pdf << for those who can't round up enough fellahs for a home game.
pete_dushenski: "How to Use Bitcoin to Play Decentralized Poker"
CoraCrisT: thank you
CoraCrisT: !rated Naphex
assbot: You rated user Naphex on 18-Dec-2015, with a rating of 10, and supplied these additional notes: most badass coder i ever worked with. his moral character & integrity are rock solid..
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45900 @ 0.00049795 = 22.8559 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: adlai BingoBoingo seems the very angry people managed to take the whole server down meanwhile.
mircea_popescu: part of operation "we're not gonna admit it, but mp's wuille assassination really fucking irked us. god damn that assole". or something.
adlai: anger leads to the false side of the dichotomy
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: what does 'down' mean ?
ascii_field: smoking crater ?
mircea_popescu: lol i dunno, but nothing pings, so...
mircea_popescu: anyway, i think ima bring up a nigger.trilema.net or somesuch. be a few.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> adlai BingoBoingo seems the very angry people managed to take the whole server down meanwhile. << lol year two, but some things never change
ascii_field: https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99 << experimental programmable-versionstring patch is in test, and seen even here
ascii_field: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, mod6, et al ^
pete_dushenski: lithuania !
ascii_field: what of it
pete_dushenski: home of the fourth conference.
pete_dushenski: maybeifwhen
ascii_field: home of new dulap
pete_dushenski: well, we can all go visit him, pet him on the head, make sure he's enjoying his cage.
BingoBoingo: Interlude: "It's amazing to think that at 340lbs, I thought at 250 I'd be a waif. I should be able to dress like the guys in the Ambercrombie ads at 250! is something I would have thought one year ago." https://archive.is/bcz6R#selection-1637.0-1637.189
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
assbot: The bittersweet reality of setting goals at 340lbs. : loseit ... ( http://bit.ly/1PeEXEQ )
BingoBoingo: Beautiful ascii_field
ascii_field: in other lulz,
assbot: dpaste: 22G3KNQ ... ( http://bit.ly/1PeF8jk )
ascii_field: hm defective paste
ascii_field: nm, defective ocr
ascii_field: it is what it is. (bombastic usg turd)
pete_dushenski: lol, 'vc' was so badly abused, misused, tarred, and feathered by 'venture capitalists' aka ponzi artists that it's now taken to mean 'virtual currency'
pete_dushenski off for a drink.
mircea_popescu: nice asciilifeform
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68340 @ 0.00049389 = 33.7524 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: My son was walking down the street and | Legal Advice ... ( http://bit.ly/1OBuY7J )
mod6: <+ascii_field> https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99 << experimental programmable-versionstring patch is in test, and seen even here << cool!
assbot: Network Snapshot - Bitnodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1PeJp6j )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16494 @ 0.00049211 = 8.1169 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: Retired East St. Louis police captain killed after gun accidentally discharges | Belleville News-Democrat ... ( http://bit.ly/1PeMLpY )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25467 @ 0.0004912 = 12.5094 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: achtung, panzers!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al:
assbot: [BTC-dev] Programmable Version Strings. ... ( http://bit.ly/1mdvdyY )
asciilifeform: ;;jurov can we PLEASE have an end to filename munging?!! IT BREAKS V
gribble: Error: "jurov" is not a valid command.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell jurov can we PLEASE have an end to filename munging?!! IT BREAKS V
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27250 @ 0.00048627 = 13.2509 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: also interesting q: do all of these strings passed as returns ever get deallocated ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21250 @ 0.00049028 = 10.4185 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: because unless std::string does something clever with refcounts, as far as i can see: they do not.
asciilifeform: ;;isup qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is up
asciilifeform: entirely dead here.
kakobrekla: its not
kakobrekla: i think ;;8ball might be more accurate than ;;isup
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> because unless std::string does something clever with refcounts, as far as i can see: they do not. << they do not.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> entirely dead here. << didn't we already discuss this ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that was trilema. qntra was alive until a few hrs ago
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 23:23:48; mircea_popescu: adlai BingoBoingo seems the very angry people managed to take the whole server down meanwhile.
mircea_popescu: you gotta read teh log
asciilifeform: ah apparently
mircea_popescu: anyway. apparently there's a limit on the count of simultaneously up services. whatevs.
asciilifeform: incidentally, anybody ever succeed in getting a ~heap dump~ of a running trb ?
assbot: Core Analyzer Home ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pc48Wx )
asciilifeform: 'By searching the process’s address space for all references directly or indirectly to a suspicious object, the tool helps to unveil the object’s type and usage in a thorough and systematic way.'
asciilifeform has not tried yet
assbot: gdb-heap ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pc4kVT )
asciilifeform: also have not tried.
asciilifeform: was gonna write own this, and found these
asciilifeform: nm gdb-heap is worthless
asciilifeform: does not support cpp yet...
assbot: Google Heap Profiler ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pc4pJ8 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00049027 = 5.442 BTC [-] {2}
mod6: <+asciilifeform> incidentally, anybody ever succeed in getting a ~heap dump~ of a running trb ? << thanks.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://core-analyzer.sourceforge.net << possibly of interest << for this
assbot: Core Analyzer Home ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pc48Wx )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 177067 @ 0.00049733 = 88.0607 BTC [+] {6}
mod6: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 389126 | Current Difficulty: 9.34486707963238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 391103 | Next Difficulty In: 1977 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 15 hours, 6 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
trinque looks forward to the day he can fiddle around with the concept of hypertext on a gossipd
trinque: fuck this "oh the server is down" therefore I cannot access this information that was previously published by someone in my WoT
mircea_popescu: enjoy the web. designed by idiots.
BingoBoingo: What asciilifeform apparently misses in his corner of Murica https://i.sli.mg/gUPtot.jpg
BingoBoingo: scooty puff in the wild
mircea_popescu: so i ended up the happy owner of the best ice tray i have ever seen in my life. it's exceptionally well made plastic. for one thing, it's properly flexible. for the other, it's actually hygroscopic. for yet another, the separators are actually TALL enough you get proper cubes made. it is a wonder of perfection which literally fills my life with joy.
mircea_popescu can't remember the last time he has encountered a perfect product, but it wasn't this decade.
mircea_popescu: but the true wtf of it all ? it's chinese.
mircea_popescu: this is what "made in the usa" used to mean, 50 years ago.
mircea_popescu: no longer.
assbot: Network Snapshot - Bitnodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1PeJp6j )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38745 @ 0.00049816 = 19.3012 BTC [+] {2}
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